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Translators Needed, Vsia Rossiia #general

TGart7777@...
 

Members of the Belarus SIG have completed translating the names >from the
Minsk section of the 1903 edition of Vsia Rossiia, the Russian Business
Directory, as well as the names >from the Mogilev section of the 1911 edition.
The Minsk section can be searched on the JewishGen web site, we anticipate
posting the Mogilev names in the near future. We plan to proceed to the
translation of the names in the Minsk Guberniia, 1911 edition. Tranlsators
are needed, the original data is in clear typewritten Russian. I will mail a
copy of the Minsk Guberniia section to the translators, data can be submitted
on paper or on a floppy disk.

I hope that the translators that were so helpful with the previous sections
will again assist. New translators are also needed. Please respond to Tom
Gartman.TGart7777@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Translators Needed, Vsia Rossiia #general

TGart7777@...
 

Members of the Belarus SIG have completed translating the names >from the
Minsk section of the 1903 edition of Vsia Rossiia, the Russian Business
Directory, as well as the names >from the Mogilev section of the 1911 edition.
The Minsk section can be searched on the JewishGen web site, we anticipate
posting the Mogilev names in the near future. We plan to proceed to the
translation of the names in the Minsk Guberniia, 1911 edition. Tranlsators
are needed, the original data is in clear typewritten Russian. I will mail a
copy of the Minsk Guberniia section to the translators, data can be submitted
on paper or on a floppy disk.

I hope that the translators that were so helpful with the previous sections
will again assist. New translators are also needed. Please respond to Tom
Gartman.TGart7777@aol.com


Re: Bibergala #general

Rafi Guber
 

In a message dated 7/18/99 2:16:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
anitac1@erols.com writes:

<< My grandfather >from Odessa married a woman >from Berdichev. Now that is a
real shlep and I still can't figure out why. But apparently these things
happen. Could have been a somewhat arranged marriage between distant
relatives???
>>
Dear Anita

The answer is simple - the women in Berdichev were wise, kindly and
beautiful. If you had known my grandmother and my great aunt you would agree.

Rafi Guber


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Bibergala #general

Rafi Guber
 

In a message dated 7/18/99 2:16:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
anitac1@erols.com writes:

<< My grandfather >from Odessa married a woman >from Berdichev. Now that is a
real shlep and I still can't figure out why. But apparently these things
happen. Could have been a somewhat arranged marriage between distant
relatives???
>>
Dear Anita

The answer is simple - the women in Berdichev were wise, kindly and
beautiful. If you had known my grandmother and my great aunt you would agree.

Rafi Guber


MAYER family in Israel #general

SAA444@...
 

I am looking for family living in Israel by the surname of MAYER. Kurt,
Adolph, and Senta Mayer came to Israel >from Bad Mergentheim, Germany. Kurt
and his wife, Franzie or Francis had a daughter, Rachel. Rachel Mayer was
married in October or November, 1967. I do not know her married name.

I am looking for Rachel and other children of Kurt, Adolph and Senta Mayer.

Kurt, Adolph, and Senta's mother, Meta Mayer nee Adler was married to Solomon
Mayer. Meta died in Gurs on April 7, 1952.

I would appreciate any help that anyone can give me.

Thank you.

Sheila Adler
Cleveland, Ohio USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen MAYER family in Israel #general

SAA444@...
 

I am looking for family living in Israel by the surname of MAYER. Kurt,
Adolph, and Senta Mayer came to Israel >from Bad Mergentheim, Germany. Kurt
and his wife, Franzie or Francis had a daughter, Rachel. Rachel Mayer was
married in October or November, 1967. I do not know her married name.

I am looking for Rachel and other children of Kurt, Adolph and Senta Mayer.

Kurt, Adolph, and Senta's mother, Meta Mayer nee Adler was married to Solomon
Mayer. Meta died in Gurs on April 7, 1952.

I would appreciate any help that anyone can give me.

Thank you.

Sheila Adler
Cleveland, Ohio USA


Re: Ukraine to South America routes #general

Rob Weisskirch <rweisskirch@...>
 

Howard and all,

There is quite a misconception about getting information >from South America.
My own experience has been with Argentina and have found that the vital
records there are perhaps the best in world, genealogically speaking.

In terms of migrations, your first stop should be the Hamburg Passenger
Ships. Although the volunteers at FHL will tell you that no South American
bound ships are listed, there were in fact several trips a year. The ports
are La Plata or Buenos Aires, Rio de Janiero, Montevideo, and Recife (I
believe). Some names are even in the indices (like others).

Your second stop for Argentina should be Centro de Estudios Migratorios de
Latin America (CEMLA). They are the Scalabrini Monks (or religious order)
that house the arrival records for Buenos Aires during the period of high
migration. They can be reached via email www.scalabrini.org~cemla. I have
written to them in Spanish and they returned via English. They have arrival
certificates stating the ship, profession, birthdate, and port of
embarcation.

Third stop, Registro Civil for the city you desire. They house birth,
marriage, and death records. However, you must have a date to aid the
search. It only costs about $15 per search with certificate.

Other than that, you can try searching names in old Yiddish newspapers
(which I have not done), search the Jewish Colonization Association's
records at the Central Archives of the Jewish people (in person in Israel),
or try some of the books which list prominent Argentine Jews.

Fourth stop, the Argentine Genealogy Society is doing a phenomenal job of
amassing cemetary records >from around the nation. They're in the process of
computerizing all the information >from the thousands of graves. However,
the names are currently inaccesssible for searches so be patient and check
periodically.

Rob Weisskirch
Latin American SIG moderator


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Ukraine to South America routes #general

Rob Weisskirch <rweisskirch@...>
 

Howard and all,

There is quite a misconception about getting information >from South America.
My own experience has been with Argentina and have found that the vital
records there are perhaps the best in world, genealogically speaking.

In terms of migrations, your first stop should be the Hamburg Passenger
Ships. Although the volunteers at FHL will tell you that no South American
bound ships are listed, there were in fact several trips a year. The ports
are La Plata or Buenos Aires, Rio de Janiero, Montevideo, and Recife (I
believe). Some names are even in the indices (like others).

Your second stop for Argentina should be Centro de Estudios Migratorios de
Latin America (CEMLA). They are the Scalabrini Monks (or religious order)
that house the arrival records for Buenos Aires during the period of high
migration. They can be reached via email www.scalabrini.org~cemla. I have
written to them in Spanish and they returned via English. They have arrival
certificates stating the ship, profession, birthdate, and port of
embarcation.

Third stop, Registro Civil for the city you desire. They house birth,
marriage, and death records. However, you must have a date to aid the
search. It only costs about $15 per search with certificate.

Other than that, you can try searching names in old Yiddish newspapers
(which I have not done), search the Jewish Colonization Association's
records at the Central Archives of the Jewish people (in person in Israel),
or try some of the books which list prominent Argentine Jews.

Fourth stop, the Argentine Genealogy Society is doing a phenomenal job of
amassing cemetary records >from around the nation. They're in the process of
computerizing all the information >from the thousands of graves. However,
the names are currently inaccesssible for searches so be patient and check
periodically.

Rob Weisskirch
Latin American SIG moderator


Re: Re Israeli White Pages in English #general

Stan Goodman <sheol@...>
 

On Sat, 17 Jul 1999 23:42:48, yairharu@inter.net.il (chaim charutz) wrote:

------------snip-------------

If there is anyone out there who knows how to overcome the various problems
quickly and easily, and is willing to invest the time and effort, you should
know that there is a huge potential market out there waiting for you.
Waiting for Bezeq, Godot, and all the other silly Bozos out there to do
something about it, will probably get you nowhere!

All the best,
Chaim Charutz -- Petach Tikva, Israel
e-mail: yairharu@internet-zahav.net
Although the above quote seems to imply that Bezeq is just too lazy or
silly to do anything about an English directory, the fact is that the
problems are formidable -- as Bezeq appears to understand. Consider, just
for an example, the name "Chaim Charutz" which most people (and the
official transliteration rules) would transcribe rather differently.

Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, ISMACH, ROKITA: >from Lomza Gubernia,
in Russian Poland
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Romania

See my interactive tree (requires Java 1.1 or better):
http://www.hashkedim.com

PLEASE NOTE: Messages to the "From:" or "Reply to:" address of this posting
will be deleted automatically, unread. Please change the username >from
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only.


Re Israeli White Pages in English #general

chaim charutz <yairharu@...>
 

On Sun, 18 Jul 1999 00:08:09 -0500 (CDT), Jewel Rosenthal Fishkin wrote:
I have suggested and people have had success---that by calling >either
the Israeli Embassy--or consulate--they have the Hebrew directories >and
will gladly give you the English address and phone number. >Also--one of
my cousins in Hadera thought that the Post Office in Israel does >have
an English directory. I never did check that out

Bright Idea, Jewel, about the embassies and consulates!
Regarding the Hardcopy English White Pages Directories, this was common
until about 5-10 years ago in the main Cities of Israel (Jerusalem, Haifa
and Tel Aviv). This was, however, stopped "for technical reasons". Thus, any
existing English Hardcopy White Pages Directories are, at best, 5-10 years
out-of-date. In light of the tremendous changes in the Israeli (as well as
International) Telecommunications Systems in the last 5-10 years, these
directories are, more often than not, worse than useless.

BTW, with all due respect to the hard-working, bright and kind-hearted
Jewishgenners and moderators, this is another subject which crops up every
so often and is well covered in the JewishGen Archives. Until Bezeq, Israeli
"Golden Pages", or someone else with some initiative comes up with an
acceptable and successful solution to Online English White Pages, I suppose
that this will continue to crop up again and again. In any event, I suppose
that every time I write to the Jewishgen Digest, on *any* subject whatsoever,
a few people will always write to me with Directory Enquiries.

All the best,
Chaim Charutz -- Petach Tikva, Israel.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Re Israeli White Pages in English #general

Stan Goodman <sheol@...>
 

On Sat, 17 Jul 1999 23:42:48, yairharu@inter.net.il (chaim charutz) wrote:

------------snip-------------

If there is anyone out there who knows how to overcome the various problems
quickly and easily, and is willing to invest the time and effort, you should
know that there is a huge potential market out there waiting for you.
Waiting for Bezeq, Godot, and all the other silly Bozos out there to do
something about it, will probably get you nowhere!

All the best,
Chaim Charutz -- Petach Tikva, Israel
e-mail: yairharu@internet-zahav.net
Although the above quote seems to imply that Bezeq is just too lazy or
silly to do anything about an English directory, the fact is that the
problems are formidable -- as Bezeq appears to understand. Consider, just
for an example, the name "Chaim Charutz" which most people (and the
official transliteration rules) would transcribe rather differently.

Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, ISMACH, ROKITA: >from Lomza Gubernia,
in Russian Poland
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Romania

See my interactive tree (requires Java 1.1 or better):
http://www.hashkedim.com

PLEASE NOTE: Messages to the "From:" or "Reply to:" address of this posting
will be deleted automatically, unread. Please change the username >from
"sheol" to "stan". Messages containing HTML-formatted text will also be
deleted automatically, unread; if you want to write to me, send plain text
only.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re Israeli White Pages in English #general

chaim charutz <yairharu@...>
 

On Sun, 18 Jul 1999 00:08:09 -0500 (CDT), Jewel Rosenthal Fishkin wrote:
I have suggested and people have had success---that by calling >either
the Israeli Embassy--or consulate--they have the Hebrew directories >and
will gladly give you the English address and phone number. >Also--one of
my cousins in Hadera thought that the Post Office in Israel does >have
an English directory. I never did check that out

Bright Idea, Jewel, about the embassies and consulates!
Regarding the Hardcopy English White Pages Directories, this was common
until about 5-10 years ago in the main Cities of Israel (Jerusalem, Haifa
and Tel Aviv). This was, however, stopped "for technical reasons". Thus, any
existing English Hardcopy White Pages Directories are, at best, 5-10 years
out-of-date. In light of the tremendous changes in the Israeli (as well as
International) Telecommunications Systems in the last 5-10 years, these
directories are, more often than not, worse than useless.

BTW, with all due respect to the hard-working, bright and kind-hearted
Jewishgenners and moderators, this is another subject which crops up every
so often and is well covered in the JewishGen Archives. Until Bezeq, Israeli
"Golden Pages", or someone else with some initiative comes up with an
acceptable and successful solution to Online English White Pages, I suppose
that this will continue to crop up again and again. In any event, I suppose
that every time I write to the Jewishgen Digest, on *any* subject whatsoever,
a few people will always write to me with Directory Enquiries.

All the best,
Chaim Charutz -- Petach Tikva, Israel.


Photos of Holocaust Orphans #general

Susskind <nrg@...>
 

Some weeks ago, while aimlessly searching the Jewish Gen website, I
found pictures of young children who had been orphaned by the
holocaust. These people are looking for relatives. We lost a lot of
that generation of then children, but I was unable to really search that
site at the time. I have since tried to find it unsuccessfully.
Can someone direct me to that site ? I would very much appreciate the
help, as I always am whenever Jewish Genners come to my aid. They have
done so many times.

Adele Silverberg Susskind

MODERATOR NOTE: >from the JewishGen homepage http://www.jewishgen.org
scroll down to Hosted Organizations. You are looking for the Missing
Identity site.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Photos of Holocaust Orphans #general

Susskind <nrg@...>
 

Some weeks ago, while aimlessly searching the Jewish Gen website, I
found pictures of young children who had been orphaned by the
holocaust. These people are looking for relatives. We lost a lot of
that generation of then children, but I was unable to really search that
site at the time. I have since tried to find it unsuccessfully.
Can someone direct me to that site ? I would very much appreciate the
help, as I always am whenever Jewish Genners come to my aid. They have
done so many times.

Adele Silverberg Susskind

MODERATOR NOTE: >from the JewishGen homepage http://www.jewishgen.org
scroll down to Hosted Organizations. You are looking for the Missing
Identity site.


Re: Jews in China #austria-czech

Vicky Ferraresi <vickyfer@...>
 

Dear Bob and all others:

An interesting internet site on Jews, the Holocaust and Shanghai is
www.rickshaw.org It is a good place to start.

Also, since you are in the San Francisco Bay Area, there will be two showings
of the film "Port of Last Resort" about this subject. On July 23, at 1:30PM
at the Castro Theater in SF and on 7/28 at 8:30PM at the Park Theater in Menlo
Park. Also playing at the UC Theater in Berkeley, and the Rafael Film Center
in San Rafael. (Part of the 19th San Francisco Jewish Film Festival.)

See you there!

Vicky Furstenberg Ferraresi
Belmont, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Jews in China #general

Vicky Ferraresi <vickyfer@...>
 

Dear Bob and all others:

An interesting internet site on Jews, the Holocaust and Shanghai is
www.rickshaw.org It is a good place to start.

Also, since you are in the San Francisco Bay Area, there will be two showings
of the film "Port of Last Resort" about this subject. On July 23, at 1:30PM
at the Castro Theater in SF and on 7/28 at 8:30PM at the Park Theater in Menlo
Park. Also playing at the UC Theater in Berkeley, and the Rafael Film Center
in San Rafael. (Part of the 19th San Francisco Jewish Film Festival.)

See you there!

Vicky Furstenberg Ferraresi
Belmont, CA


HOCKER/HOKER/OKER/OKENSKY #general

Leslie Jacobs <leslie.jacobs7@...>
 

Dear Friends,
This is my first family tree enquiry.
I have very little information about my maternal grandfather's family
history. He was Nathan Hocker, who came to London, UK in about 1800-1890
from Poland. My late mother told me he was a horse trader.
Do you know of any relatives?

Leslie Jacobs
landl.atdell@virgin.net

MODERATOR NOTE: Go to http://www.jewishgen.org Scroll down to
Researchclick on JewishGen Family Finder. Follow the directions to
see if there are any others searching the same name. Don't forget to
enter your names. Then look under Learn and clickon FAQ and InfoFiles.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen HOCKER/HOKER/OKER/OKENSKY #general

Leslie Jacobs <leslie.jacobs7@...>
 

Dear Friends,
This is my first family tree enquiry.
I have very little information about my maternal grandfather's family
history. He was Nathan Hocker, who came to London, UK in about 1800-1890
from Poland. My late mother told me he was a horse trader.
Do you know of any relatives?

Leslie Jacobs
landl.atdell@virgin.net

MODERATOR NOTE: Go to http://www.jewishgen.org Scroll down to
Researchclick on JewishGen Family Finder. Follow the directions to
see if there are any others searching the same name. Don't forget to
enter your names. Then look under Learn and clickon FAQ and InfoFiles.


searching for OBERDORFER #general

sactofritz@...
 

Searching for siblings or ancestors of Fannie Oberdorfer, b. 1846 d. 1908 in
Columbus Ohio, where she had married Joseph Goodman.

Frederic A. (Fritz) Kahn
Sacramento, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen searching for OBERDORFER #general

sactofritz@...
 

Searching for siblings or ancestors of Fannie Oberdorfer, b. 1846 d. 1908 in
Columbus Ohio, where she had married Joseph Goodman.

Frederic A. (Fritz) Kahn
Sacramento, CA