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Jewish newspapers in France
#general
Jonathan Newman
I am currently trying to trace a member of my family, called Edward NEWMAN,
whom I believe died in France in the early 1970s. Does anyone know whether there is a French equivalent of the Jewish Chronicle, which might have carried an obituary of my relative? Alternatively, is there any possibility that there would have been an obituary in one of the non-Jewish newspapers? Many thanks for your help. Jonathan Newman, Leeds, England primpark@ntlworld.com MODERATOR NOTE: You might find useful information in the French Special Interest Group (SIG) at: http://www.jewishgen.org/French/
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish newspapers in France
#general
Jonathan Newman
I am currently trying to trace a member of my family, called Edward NEWMAN,
whom I believe died in France in the early 1970s. Does anyone know whether there is a French equivalent of the Jewish Chronicle, which might have carried an obituary of my relative? Alternatively, is there any possibility that there would have been an obituary in one of the non-Jewish newspapers? Many thanks for your help. Jonathan Newman, Leeds, England primpark@ntlworld.com MODERATOR NOTE: You might find useful information in the French Special Interest Group (SIG) at: http://www.jewishgen.org/French/
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U.S. Census Undercounts - Second Enumerations, etc.
#general
Randy Stehle
United States federal census undercounts have been taken seriously enough
over the years that several second enumerations have been done In 1870, there were enough complaints about undercounting that the following localities had a second census taken: Manhattan, Indianapolis, Philadelphia and Liberty County, Georgia (This list may not be complete It was what I found on a Google search) In 1880, St Louis had a second enumeration In 1890, complaints about the fedreal census for parts of New York City were voiced A special census was undertaken by the police for Manhattan and parts of the Bronx It was determined that the original census had a 13% undercount In an article entitled "Perspectives on Historical US Census Undercounts" by King & Magnuson, published in the journal "Social Science History" (Vol 19, No 4, Winter 1995, pp 455-466), the authors state that the 1880 census had a 64% undercount I do not have access to this journal If anyone can locate a copy, I would love to know the authors estimates for other US censuses Randy Stehle San Mateo, California
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen U.S. Census Undercounts - Second Enumerations, etc.
#general
Randy Stehle
United States federal census undercounts have been taken seriously enough
over the years that several second enumerations have been done In 1870, there were enough complaints about undercounting that the following localities had a second census taken: Manhattan, Indianapolis, Philadelphia and Liberty County, Georgia (This list may not be complete It was what I found on a Google search) In 1880, St Louis had a second enumeration In 1890, complaints about the fedreal census for parts of New York City were voiced A special census was undertaken by the police for Manhattan and parts of the Bronx It was determined that the original census had a 13% undercount In an article entitled "Perspectives on Historical US Census Undercounts" by King & Magnuson, published in the journal "Social Science History" (Vol 19, No 4, Winter 1995, pp 455-466), the authors state that the 1880 census had a 64% undercount I do not have access to this journal If anyone can locate a copy, I would love to know the authors estimates for other US censuses Randy Stehle San Mateo, California
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Re: Ellis Island proceedures
#general
Al Kaplanapk6797 <apk6797@...>
Shalom to fellow Jewishgenners
I am constantly amazed by the durability of the folk myth that "The names were changed at Ellis Island". Anyone who has accessed the EIDB, should realize that the ship's manifest (passenger list) were compiled in Europe, according to the names given and whatever travel documents were produced. Several years ago, I took the U.S. Park Service tour at Ellis Island, and the guide explained the proceedure: 1 Immigrant ships anchored in N.Y. harbor were boarded by immigration officials, first and second class passengers were cleared, and put on a ferry to the city. 2 Only steerage passengers were to go to Ellis Island. Numbered tags were affixed to their clothing, and they were ferried to the Island. 3 When they were brought before an examiner, they were asked (many times screamed at) their names. The official had all their information before him, but he was looking for men (generally) who were trying to enter the U.S. under a false name. 4 After processing, they were ferried to NYC. It is my feeling that the names were changed shortly after entering the U.S.. Perhaps an old timer (someone who came 6 months before you did?) took you aside and said that your name was too long, too Jewish, or whatever, and to become Americanized sooner, you should change it. In an era, when you were basically, what you called yourself, it was an easy transition To me, this explanation makes as much sense, as anything else I've heard, and perhaps the folk myth could be put to rest Al Kaplan Boynton Beach,Fl
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Ellis Island proceedures
#general
Al Kaplanapk6797 <apk6797@...>
Shalom to fellow Jewishgenners
I am constantly amazed by the durability of the folk myth that "The names were changed at Ellis Island". Anyone who has accessed the EIDB, should realize that the ship's manifest (passenger list) were compiled in Europe, according to the names given and whatever travel documents were produced. Several years ago, I took the U.S. Park Service tour at Ellis Island, and the guide explained the proceedure: 1 Immigrant ships anchored in N.Y. harbor were boarded by immigration officials, first and second class passengers were cleared, and put on a ferry to the city. 2 Only steerage passengers were to go to Ellis Island. Numbered tags were affixed to their clothing, and they were ferried to the Island. 3 When they were brought before an examiner, they were asked (many times screamed at) their names. The official had all their information before him, but he was looking for men (generally) who were trying to enter the U.S. under a false name. 4 After processing, they were ferried to NYC. It is my feeling that the names were changed shortly after entering the U.S.. Perhaps an old timer (someone who came 6 months before you did?) took you aside and said that your name was too long, too Jewish, or whatever, and to become Americanized sooner, you should change it. In an era, when you were basically, what you called yourself, it was an easy transition To me, this explanation makes as much sense, as anything else I've heard, and perhaps the folk myth could be put to rest Al Kaplan Boynton Beach,Fl
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Re: Ettlinger
#germany
Christopher Kuehn <ckuehn@...>
A recent post to the list mentioned Dr. Shlomo Ettlinger. Who is Dr.
Shlomo Ettlinger? I ask because, I was given correspondence between a relative and Dr. Fritz Ettlinger which appears to indicate that Dr. Ettlinger was working on retrieving genealogical information on his behalf. The correspondence dates >from June 1935 and the letterhead identifies Dr. Fritz Ettlinger as Rechtsanwalt und Notar in Frankfurt. The last letter states "hier untersuche ich jetzt weiter" however I have no follow ups. If indeed this Dr. Ettlinger is the same person as Shlomo Ettlinger, is there a repository of Dr. Ettlinger's research that could be accessed? I would love to see if he had done further work on the origins of the SPANGENTHAL family. Cheers, Christopher Kuehn <ckuehn@optonline.net>
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German SIG #Germany Re: Ettlinger
#germany
Christopher Kuehn <ckuehn@...>
A recent post to the list mentioned Dr. Shlomo Ettlinger. Who is Dr.
Shlomo Ettlinger? I ask because, I was given correspondence between a relative and Dr. Fritz Ettlinger which appears to indicate that Dr. Ettlinger was working on retrieving genealogical information on his behalf. The correspondence dates >from June 1935 and the letterhead identifies Dr. Fritz Ettlinger as Rechtsanwalt und Notar in Frankfurt. The last letter states "hier untersuche ich jetzt weiter" however I have no follow ups. If indeed this Dr. Ettlinger is the same person as Shlomo Ettlinger, is there a repository of Dr. Ettlinger's research that could be accessed? I would love to see if he had done further work on the origins of the SPANGENTHAL family. Cheers, Christopher Kuehn <ckuehn@optonline.net>
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Seek REINHAUS et al
#germany
melchior <mlchior@...>
Dear GerSig,
I am seeking for the descendants of: Melchior LEESER also named Menachem LAZARUS born in Sendenhorst, son of Lazarus Jacob Hirsch and married Suesschen Julie MELCHIOR born in Bork ABT. 1764. They adopt the surname REINHAUS. Known children of the couple: Leeser REINHAUS married Bertha MEYER, 18 November 1834. Bona REINHAUS married Isaac MENDEL, 15 February 1837 Best regards, Shlomo Melchior Arad Israel <mlchior@zahav.net.il>
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German SIG #Germany Seek REINHAUS et al
#germany
melchior <mlchior@...>
Dear GerSig,
I am seeking for the descendants of: Melchior LEESER also named Menachem LAZARUS born in Sendenhorst, son of Lazarus Jacob Hirsch and married Suesschen Julie MELCHIOR born in Bork ABT. 1764. They adopt the surname REINHAUS. Known children of the couple: Leeser REINHAUS married Bertha MEYER, 18 November 1834. Bona REINHAUS married Isaac MENDEL, 15 February 1837 Best regards, Shlomo Melchior Arad Israel <mlchior@zahav.net.il>
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new article
#belarus
Fran Bock
Dear Fellow Genners,
Please click on the link below: http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/newsletter/bnl_index.htm for a special contribution by Vitaly Charny, who has translated the budget for the city of Minsk for the year 1877. Frances A. Bock, Ph.D. Editor, Belarus SIG Newsletter
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Lodgings in Riga
#latvia
joan goldstein <robertg@...>
I am planning a trip to Riga for the last week of June. I would =
appreciate suggestions for clean quiet lodgings.=20 Thank you. Joan Moskowitz Goldstein Jerusalem, Israel (formerly New York City) Email replies to joan@rgoldstein.com Researching descendants of : GUTMAN, BASCH of =A0Siemiatycze of=A0=A0 Bialystok region of Grodno = Gubernia (now Poland). MORSCHOVITZ, RABINOWITZ of Glazmanka (Gostini)=A0 Vitebsk Gubernia =A0 = (now Latvia).
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Belarus SIG #Belarus new article
#belarus
Fran Bock
Dear Fellow Genners,
Please click on the link below: http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/newsletter/bnl_index.htm for a special contribution by Vitaly Charny, who has translated the budget for the city of Minsk for the year 1877. Frances A. Bock, Ph.D. Editor, Belarus SIG Newsletter
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Latvia SIG #Latvia Lodgings in Riga
#latvia
joan goldstein <robertg@...>
I am planning a trip to Riga for the last week of June. I would =
appreciate suggestions for clean quiet lodgings.=20 Thank you. Joan Moskowitz Goldstein Jerusalem, Israel (formerly New York City) Email replies to joan@rgoldstein.com Researching descendants of : GUTMAN, BASCH of =A0Siemiatycze of=A0=A0 Bialystok region of Grodno = Gubernia (now Poland). MORSCHOVITZ, RABINOWITZ of Glazmanka (Gostini)=A0 Vitebsk Gubernia =A0 = (now Latvia).
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Siauliai Data Missing emails
#lithuania
Carol Baker
The LitvakSIG Siauliai District Research Group has just distributed lists
from 1795 to 1910 containing 6,664 records. They DO NOT contain vitalrecords. This data will not be on the ALD until 2007. If you think you are a qualified member of this group and did not receive these records, please let me know. Emails to the following people bounced. If you have any knowledge of their whereabouts or current email addresses, I would appreciate a message with the updated information. Aaron Lipton Alfred Goldberg Chana Luntz David Aron Edward DeDiemar Edward Jaffee Fred Lynn Gerald Gaffin Gwenda/Alexander Charlson Irwin Sagenkahn Jimmy Levine Judy Farris Martha Margowsky Nancy Mills Paul Klein Russ Pierce Shirley & Joel Stearman Sydney Levine Thank you, Carol Coplin Baker LitvakSIG Siauliai District Research Group Coordinator carolcbaker@comcast.net MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.
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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Siauliai Data Missing emails
#lithuania
Carol Baker
The LitvakSIG Siauliai District Research Group has just distributed lists
from 1795 to 1910 containing 6,664 records. They DO NOT contain vitalrecords. This data will not be on the ALD until 2007. If you think you are a qualified member of this group and did not receive these records, please let me know. Emails to the following people bounced. If you have any knowledge of their whereabouts or current email addresses, I would appreciate a message with the updated information. Aaron Lipton Alfred Goldberg Chana Luntz David Aron Edward DeDiemar Edward Jaffee Fred Lynn Gerald Gaffin Gwenda/Alexander Charlson Irwin Sagenkahn Jimmy Levine Judy Farris Martha Margowsky Nancy Mills Paul Klein Russ Pierce Shirley & Joel Stearman Sydney Levine Thank you, Carol Coplin Baker LitvakSIG Siauliai District Research Group Coordinator carolcbaker@comcast.net MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.
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Kozevnik family -Merkine
#lithuania
C Lipman <cslipman@...>
My mother came >from Merkine. In Lithuania, her name
was Debrusha Kozhevnik. She emigrated to the US at the age of 11 (approx) with her mother and one of her sisters. The older sisters went to Mexico. One sister remained in Europe. Liba married Aizik Kovarsky and had two children. They lived in Vilna, and we know for sure that 3 of them died in the Holocaust. The fate of the son is unknown. My grandparents names were Khaim Eli and Khaya Etel (pronounced Khayetel). Does anyone have any knowlege of this family? I am finding almost no information, even though they lived in Meretz (Merkine) for several generations. Corinne Lipman
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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Kozevnik family -Merkine
#lithuania
C Lipman <cslipman@...>
My mother came >from Merkine. In Lithuania, her name
was Debrusha Kozhevnik. She emigrated to the US at the age of 11 (approx) with her mother and one of her sisters. The older sisters went to Mexico. One sister remained in Europe. Liba married Aizik Kovarsky and had two children. They lived in Vilna, and we know for sure that 3 of them died in the Holocaust. The fate of the son is unknown. My grandparents names were Khaim Eli and Khaya Etel (pronounced Khayetel). Does anyone have any knowlege of this family? I am finding almost no information, even though they lived in Meretz (Merkine) for several generations. Corinne Lipman
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What does it mean when someone is listed with a family?
#lithuania
Peerutin <jushilli@...>
Hi
While searching through The All Lithuania Revision List Database for the name VELER >from Linkuva, I noticed references of other names as being listed with them. Normally I would assume that this other name was probably related to the family they were listed with but doing more searching I noticed that this same name was also listed with others Listed with family of VELER Orel (son of Yudel VELER) in 1834 Revision List were BERSHINER / BERTINER/ BERZINER Leiba (son of Josel) and MARGOLIASH Shymel (son of Mortkhel) Leiba BERSHINER / BERTINER/ BERZINER was also listed with the family of Orel son of Berel BAL in 1818 Hospital's Patients and Poor People Shymel MARGOLIASH / MARGILES was also Listed with the family of Orel son of Berel BAL in 1818 Hospital's Patients and Poor People Could anyone help to explain what this means? Thanks Julian Peerutin Kfar Saba, Israel Researching VELER/WELLER & SARFINOVICH/SHARFINOWITZ Linkuva/Kupiskis, Lithuania; CINDEL/TSINDEL Kupiskis, Lithuania; LEVIN Rokiskis/Kupiskis, Lithuania; PICK/PINK/PEEK Birz, Lithuania; DIAMOND / ORELASKY Siluva, Lithuania; DRUKER / PENN Dvinsk, Latvia; HIRSCHSOHN / LEVENBERG / LEVINSOHN / MANDELSTAMM Kuldiga/Pilten/Liepaja, Latvia; KALMEK/KALMANOVICH Rokiskis/Druyah, Lithuania; Braslav, Belarus; Dvinsk, Latvia; NYMAN/NEIMAN Poland; PEERUTIN/PIRUTIN Kraslava/Dvinsk, Latvia; Vitebsk, Belarus
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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania What does it mean when someone is listed with a family?
#lithuania
Peerutin <jushilli@...>
Hi
While searching through The All Lithuania Revision List Database for the name VELER >from Linkuva, I noticed references of other names as being listed with them. Normally I would assume that this other name was probably related to the family they were listed with but doing more searching I noticed that this same name was also listed with others Listed with family of VELER Orel (son of Yudel VELER) in 1834 Revision List were BERSHINER / BERTINER/ BERZINER Leiba (son of Josel) and MARGOLIASH Shymel (son of Mortkhel) Leiba BERSHINER / BERTINER/ BERZINER was also listed with the family of Orel son of Berel BAL in 1818 Hospital's Patients and Poor People Shymel MARGOLIASH / MARGILES was also Listed with the family of Orel son of Berel BAL in 1818 Hospital's Patients and Poor People Could anyone help to explain what this means? Thanks Julian Peerutin Kfar Saba, Israel Researching VELER/WELLER & SARFINOVICH/SHARFINOWITZ Linkuva/Kupiskis, Lithuania; CINDEL/TSINDEL Kupiskis, Lithuania; LEVIN Rokiskis/Kupiskis, Lithuania; PICK/PINK/PEEK Birz, Lithuania; DIAMOND / ORELASKY Siluva, Lithuania; DRUKER / PENN Dvinsk, Latvia; HIRSCHSOHN / LEVENBERG / LEVINSOHN / MANDELSTAMM Kuldiga/Pilten/Liepaja, Latvia; KALMEK/KALMANOVICH Rokiskis/Druyah, Lithuania; Braslav, Belarus; Dvinsk, Latvia; NYMAN/NEIMAN Poland; PEERUTIN/PIRUTIN Kraslava/Dvinsk, Latvia; Vitebsk, Belarus
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