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Jewish newspapers in France #general

Jonathan Newman
 

I am currently trying to trace a member of my family, called Edward NEWMAN,
whom I believe died in France in the early 1970s.

Does anyone know whether there is a French equivalent of the Jewish Chronicle,
which might have carried an obituary of my relative? Alternatively, is there any
possibility that there would have been an obituary in one of the non-Jewish
newspapers?

Many thanks for your help.

Jonathan Newman,
Leeds, England
primpark@ntlworld.com

MODERATOR NOTE: You might find useful information in the French Special Interest
Group (SIG) at: http://www.jewishgen.org/French/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish newspapers in France #general

Jonathan Newman
 

I am currently trying to trace a member of my family, called Edward NEWMAN,
whom I believe died in France in the early 1970s.

Does anyone know whether there is a French equivalent of the Jewish Chronicle,
which might have carried an obituary of my relative? Alternatively, is there any
possibility that there would have been an obituary in one of the non-Jewish
newspapers?

Many thanks for your help.

Jonathan Newman,
Leeds, England
primpark@ntlworld.com

MODERATOR NOTE: You might find useful information in the French Special Interest
Group (SIG) at: http://www.jewishgen.org/French/


U.S. Census Undercounts - Second Enumerations, etc. #general

Randy Stehle
 

United States federal census undercounts have been taken seriously enough
over the years that several second enumerations have been done In 1870,
there were enough complaints about undercounting that the following
localities had a second census taken: Manhattan, Indianapolis, Philadelphia
and Liberty County, Georgia (This list may not be complete It was what I
found on a Google search) In 1880, St Louis had a second enumeration
In 1890, complaints about the fedreal census for parts of New York City were
voiced A special census was undertaken by the police for Manhattan and
parts of the Bronx It was determined that the original census had a 13%
undercount

In an article entitled "Perspectives on Historical US Census Undercounts"
by King & Magnuson, published in the journal "Social Science History" (Vol
19, No 4, Winter 1995, pp 455-466), the authors state that the 1880
census had a 64% undercount I do not have access to this journal If
anyone can locate a copy, I would love to know the authors estimates for
other US censuses

Randy Stehle
San Mateo, California


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen U.S. Census Undercounts - Second Enumerations, etc. #general

Randy Stehle
 

United States federal census undercounts have been taken seriously enough
over the years that several second enumerations have been done In 1870,
there were enough complaints about undercounting that the following
localities had a second census taken: Manhattan, Indianapolis, Philadelphia
and Liberty County, Georgia (This list may not be complete It was what I
found on a Google search) In 1880, St Louis had a second enumeration
In 1890, complaints about the fedreal census for parts of New York City were
voiced A special census was undertaken by the police for Manhattan and
parts of the Bronx It was determined that the original census had a 13%
undercount

In an article entitled "Perspectives on Historical US Census Undercounts"
by King & Magnuson, published in the journal "Social Science History" (Vol
19, No 4, Winter 1995, pp 455-466), the authors state that the 1880
census had a 64% undercount I do not have access to this journal If
anyone can locate a copy, I would love to know the authors estimates for
other US censuses

Randy Stehle
San Mateo, California


Re: Ellis Island proceedures #general

Al Kaplanapk6797 <apk6797@...>
 

Shalom to fellow Jewishgenners

I am constantly amazed by the durability of the folk myth that "The
names were changed at Ellis Island". Anyone who has accessed the EIDB,
should realize that the ship's manifest (passenger list)
were compiled in Europe, according to the names given and whatever
travel documents were produced.

Several years ago, I took the U.S. Park Service tour at Ellis Island,
and the guide explained the proceedure:

1 Immigrant ships anchored in N.Y. harbor were boarded by immigration
officials, first and second class passengers were cleared, and put on a
ferry to the city.

2 Only steerage passengers were to go to Ellis Island. Numbered tags
were affixed to their clothing, and they were ferried to the Island.

3 When they were brought before an examiner, they were asked (many times
screamed at) their names. The official had all their information before
him, but he was looking for men (generally) who
were trying to enter the U.S. under a false name.

4 After processing, they were ferried to NYC.

It is my feeling that the names were changed shortly after entering the
U.S.. Perhaps an old timer (someone who came 6 months before you did?)
took you aside and said that your name was too
long, too Jewish, or whatever, and to become Americanized sooner, you
should change it. In an era, when you were basically, what you called
yourself, it was an easy transition

To me, this explanation makes as much sense, as anything else I've
heard, and perhaps the folk myth could be put to rest

Al Kaplan
Boynton Beach,Fl


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Ellis Island proceedures #general

Al Kaplanapk6797 <apk6797@...>
 

Shalom to fellow Jewishgenners

I am constantly amazed by the durability of the folk myth that "The
names were changed at Ellis Island". Anyone who has accessed the EIDB,
should realize that the ship's manifest (passenger list)
were compiled in Europe, according to the names given and whatever
travel documents were produced.

Several years ago, I took the U.S. Park Service tour at Ellis Island,
and the guide explained the proceedure:

1 Immigrant ships anchored in N.Y. harbor were boarded by immigration
officials, first and second class passengers were cleared, and put on a
ferry to the city.

2 Only steerage passengers were to go to Ellis Island. Numbered tags
were affixed to their clothing, and they were ferried to the Island.

3 When they were brought before an examiner, they were asked (many times
screamed at) their names. The official had all their information before
him, but he was looking for men (generally) who
were trying to enter the U.S. under a false name.

4 After processing, they were ferried to NYC.

It is my feeling that the names were changed shortly after entering the
U.S.. Perhaps an old timer (someone who came 6 months before you did?)
took you aside and said that your name was too
long, too Jewish, or whatever, and to become Americanized sooner, you
should change it. In an era, when you were basically, what you called
yourself, it was an easy transition

To me, this explanation makes as much sense, as anything else I've
heard, and perhaps the folk myth could be put to rest

Al Kaplan
Boynton Beach,Fl


Re: Ettlinger #germany

Christopher Kuehn <ckuehn@...>
 

A recent post to the list mentioned Dr. Shlomo Ettlinger. Who is Dr.
Shlomo Ettlinger? I ask because, I was given correspondence between a
relative and Dr. Fritz Ettlinger which appears to indicate that Dr.
Ettlinger was working on retrieving genealogical information on his behalf.

The correspondence dates >from June 1935 and the letterhead identifies
Dr. Fritz Ettlinger as Rechtsanwalt und Notar in Frankfurt.

The last letter states "hier untersuche ich jetzt weiter" however I have
no follow ups. If indeed this Dr. Ettlinger is the same person as
Shlomo Ettlinger, is there a repository of Dr. Ettlinger's research that
could be accessed? I would love to see if he had done further work on
the origins of the SPANGENTHAL family.

Cheers, Christopher Kuehn <ckuehn@optonline.net>


German SIG #Germany Re: Ettlinger #germany

Christopher Kuehn <ckuehn@...>
 

A recent post to the list mentioned Dr. Shlomo Ettlinger. Who is Dr.
Shlomo Ettlinger? I ask because, I was given correspondence between a
relative and Dr. Fritz Ettlinger which appears to indicate that Dr.
Ettlinger was working on retrieving genealogical information on his behalf.

The correspondence dates >from June 1935 and the letterhead identifies
Dr. Fritz Ettlinger as Rechtsanwalt und Notar in Frankfurt.

The last letter states "hier untersuche ich jetzt weiter" however I have
no follow ups. If indeed this Dr. Ettlinger is the same person as
Shlomo Ettlinger, is there a repository of Dr. Ettlinger's research that
could be accessed? I would love to see if he had done further work on
the origins of the SPANGENTHAL family.

Cheers, Christopher Kuehn <ckuehn@optonline.net>


Seek REINHAUS et al #germany

melchior <mlchior@...>
 

Dear GerSig,
I am seeking for the descendants of:
Melchior LEESER also named Menachem LAZARUS born in Sendenhorst, son of
Lazarus Jacob Hirsch and married Suesschen Julie MELCHIOR born in Bork ABT.
1764. They adopt the surname REINHAUS.

Known children of the couple:

Leeser REINHAUS married Bertha MEYER, 18 November 1834.
Bona REINHAUS married Isaac MENDEL, 15 February 1837

Best regards, Shlomo Melchior Arad Israel <mlchior@zahav.net.il>


German SIG #Germany Seek REINHAUS et al #germany

melchior <mlchior@...>
 

Dear GerSig,
I am seeking for the descendants of:
Melchior LEESER also named Menachem LAZARUS born in Sendenhorst, son of
Lazarus Jacob Hirsch and married Suesschen Julie MELCHIOR born in Bork ABT.
1764. They adopt the surname REINHAUS.

Known children of the couple:

Leeser REINHAUS married Bertha MEYER, 18 November 1834.
Bona REINHAUS married Isaac MENDEL, 15 February 1837

Best regards, Shlomo Melchior Arad Israel <mlchior@zahav.net.il>


new article #belarus

Fran Bock
 

Dear Fellow Genners,

Please click on the link below:

http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/newsletter/bnl_index.htm

for a special contribution by Vitaly Charny, who has translated the budget
for the city of Minsk for the year 1877.



Frances A. Bock, Ph.D.
Editor, Belarus SIG Newsletter


Lodgings in Riga #latvia

joan goldstein <robertg@...>
 

I am planning a trip to Riga for the last week of June. I would =
appreciate suggestions for clean quiet lodgings.=20

Thank you.

Joan Moskowitz Goldstein
Jerusalem, Israel (formerly New York City)
Email replies to joan@rgoldstein.com
Researching descendants of :
GUTMAN, BASCH of =A0Siemiatycze of=A0=A0 Bialystok region of Grodno =
Gubernia (now Poland).
MORSCHOVITZ, RABINOWITZ of Glazmanka (Gostini)=A0 Vitebsk Gubernia =A0 =
(now Latvia).


Belarus SIG #Belarus new article #belarus

Fran Bock
 

Dear Fellow Genners,

Please click on the link below:

http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/newsletter/bnl_index.htm

for a special contribution by Vitaly Charny, who has translated the budget
for the city of Minsk for the year 1877.



Frances A. Bock, Ph.D.
Editor, Belarus SIG Newsletter


Latvia SIG #Latvia Lodgings in Riga #latvia

joan goldstein <robertg@...>
 

I am planning a trip to Riga for the last week of June. I would =
appreciate suggestions for clean quiet lodgings.=20

Thank you.

Joan Moskowitz Goldstein
Jerusalem, Israel (formerly New York City)
Email replies to joan@rgoldstein.com
Researching descendants of :
GUTMAN, BASCH of =A0Siemiatycze of=A0=A0 Bialystok region of Grodno =
Gubernia (now Poland).
MORSCHOVITZ, RABINOWITZ of Glazmanka (Gostini)=A0 Vitebsk Gubernia =A0 =
(now Latvia).


Siauliai Data Missing emails #lithuania

Carol Baker
 

The LitvakSIG Siauliai District Research Group has just distributed lists
from 1795 to 1910 containing 6,664 records. They DO NOT contain vital
records. This data will not be on the ALD until 2007. If you think you are
a qualified member of this group and did not receive these records, please
let me know.

Emails to the following people bounced. If you have any knowledge of their
whereabouts or current email addresses, I would appreciate a message with
the updated information.

Aaron Lipton
Alfred Goldberg
Chana Luntz
David Aron
Edward DeDiemar
Edward Jaffee
Fred Lynn
Gerald Gaffin
Gwenda/Alexander Charlson
Irwin Sagenkahn
Jimmy Levine
Judy Farris
Martha Margowsky
Nancy Mills
Paul Klein
Russ Pierce
Shirley & Joel Stearman
Sydney Levine

Thank you,

Carol Coplin Baker
LitvakSIG Siauliai District Research Group Coordinator
carolcbaker@comcast.net

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Siauliai Data Missing emails #lithuania

Carol Baker
 

The LitvakSIG Siauliai District Research Group has just distributed lists
from 1795 to 1910 containing 6,664 records. They DO NOT contain vital
records. This data will not be on the ALD until 2007. If you think you are
a qualified member of this group and did not receive these records, please
let me know.

Emails to the following people bounced. If you have any knowledge of their
whereabouts or current email addresses, I would appreciate a message with
the updated information.

Aaron Lipton
Alfred Goldberg
Chana Luntz
David Aron
Edward DeDiemar
Edward Jaffee
Fred Lynn
Gerald Gaffin
Gwenda/Alexander Charlson
Irwin Sagenkahn
Jimmy Levine
Judy Farris
Martha Margowsky
Nancy Mills
Paul Klein
Russ Pierce
Shirley & Joel Stearman
Sydney Levine

Thank you,

Carol Coplin Baker
LitvakSIG Siauliai District Research Group Coordinator
carolcbaker@comcast.net

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


Kozevnik family -Merkine #lithuania

C Lipman <cslipman@...>
 

My mother came >from Merkine. In Lithuania, her name
was Debrusha Kozhevnik. She emigrated to the US at the
age of 11 (approx) with her mother and one of her
sisters. The older sisters went to Mexico. One
sister remained in Europe. Liba married Aizik
Kovarsky and had two children. They lived in Vilna,
and we know for sure that 3 of them died in the
Holocaust. The fate of the son is unknown. My
grandparents names were Khaim Eli and Khaya Etel
(pronounced Khayetel). Does anyone have any knowlege
of this family? I am finding almost no information,
even though they lived in Meretz (Merkine) for several
generations.

Corinne Lipman


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Kozevnik family -Merkine #lithuania

C Lipman <cslipman@...>
 

My mother came >from Merkine. In Lithuania, her name
was Debrusha Kozhevnik. She emigrated to the US at the
age of 11 (approx) with her mother and one of her
sisters. The older sisters went to Mexico. One
sister remained in Europe. Liba married Aizik
Kovarsky and had two children. They lived in Vilna,
and we know for sure that 3 of them died in the
Holocaust. The fate of the son is unknown. My
grandparents names were Khaim Eli and Khaya Etel
(pronounced Khayetel). Does anyone have any knowlege
of this family? I am finding almost no information,
even though they lived in Meretz (Merkine) for several
generations.

Corinne Lipman


What does it mean when someone is listed with a family? #lithuania

Peerutin <jushilli@...>
 

Hi

While searching through The All Lithuania Revision List Database
for the name VELER >from Linkuva, I noticed references of other names as
being listed with them. Normally I would assume that this other name was
probably related to the family they were listed with but doing more
searching I noticed that this same name was also listed with others

Listed with family of VELER Orel (son of Yudel VELER) in 1834 Revision List
were BERSHINER / BERTINER/ BERZINER Leiba (son of Josel) and MARGOLIASH
Shymel (son of Mortkhel)
Leiba BERSHINER / BERTINER/ BERZINER was also listed with the family of Orel
son of Berel BAL in 1818 Hospital's Patients and Poor People
Shymel MARGOLIASH / MARGILES was also Listed with the family of Orel son of
Berel BAL in 1818 Hospital's Patients and Poor People

Could anyone help to explain what this means?

Thanks

Julian Peerutin
Kfar Saba, Israel

Researching
VELER/WELLER & SARFINOVICH/SHARFINOWITZ Linkuva/Kupiskis, Lithuania;
CINDEL/TSINDEL Kupiskis, Lithuania; LEVIN Rokiskis/Kupiskis, Lithuania;
PICK/PINK/PEEK Birz, Lithuania; DIAMOND / ORELASKY Siluva, Lithuania; DRUKER
/ PENN Dvinsk, Latvia; HIRSCHSOHN / LEVENBERG / LEVINSOHN / MANDELSTAMM
Kuldiga/Pilten/Liepaja, Latvia; KALMEK/KALMANOVICH Rokiskis/Druyah,
Lithuania; Braslav, Belarus; Dvinsk, Latvia; NYMAN/NEIMAN Poland;
PEERUTIN/PIRUTIN Kraslava/Dvinsk, Latvia; Vitebsk, Belarus


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania What does it mean when someone is listed with a family? #lithuania

Peerutin <jushilli@...>
 

Hi

While searching through The All Lithuania Revision List Database
for the name VELER >from Linkuva, I noticed references of other names as
being listed with them. Normally I would assume that this other name was
probably related to the family they were listed with but doing more
searching I noticed that this same name was also listed with others

Listed with family of VELER Orel (son of Yudel VELER) in 1834 Revision List
were BERSHINER / BERTINER/ BERZINER Leiba (son of Josel) and MARGOLIASH
Shymel (son of Mortkhel)
Leiba BERSHINER / BERTINER/ BERZINER was also listed with the family of Orel
son of Berel BAL in 1818 Hospital's Patients and Poor People
Shymel MARGOLIASH / MARGILES was also Listed with the family of Orel son of
Berel BAL in 1818 Hospital's Patients and Poor People

Could anyone help to explain what this means?

Thanks

Julian Peerutin
Kfar Saba, Israel

Researching
VELER/WELLER & SARFINOVICH/SHARFINOWITZ Linkuva/Kupiskis, Lithuania;
CINDEL/TSINDEL Kupiskis, Lithuania; LEVIN Rokiskis/Kupiskis, Lithuania;
PICK/PINK/PEEK Birz, Lithuania; DIAMOND / ORELASKY Siluva, Lithuania; DRUKER
/ PENN Dvinsk, Latvia; HIRSCHSOHN / LEVENBERG / LEVINSOHN / MANDELSTAMM
Kuldiga/Pilten/Liepaja, Latvia; KALMEK/KALMANOVICH Rokiskis/Druyah,
Lithuania; Braslav, Belarus; Dvinsk, Latvia; NYMAN/NEIMAN Poland;
PEERUTIN/PIRUTIN Kraslava/Dvinsk, Latvia; Vitebsk, Belarus