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STREIBANT #general

Suzan & Ron Wynne <srwynne@...>
 

I recently discovered that a maternal great grandmother was Lisel STREIBANT.
I registered the surname with the JGFF and found that mine was the only
Streibant (or Streiband) registered. I searched the JewishGen and JRI
databases and found nothing. My great grandfather lived in Radomysl Wielki
in Galicia so I am assuming that she came >from somewhere nearby.

Neither Lisel nor her husband, Getzel GEIGER, came to the US, but their son
Jekel (Jake) did and became my grandfather. It is possible that no one >from
the Streibant family emigrated.

If anyone has a connection to Streibant/d please contact me privately.

Suzan Wynne
srwynne@erols.com
Kensington, MD


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen STREIBANT #general

Suzan & Ron Wynne <srwynne@...>
 

I recently discovered that a maternal great grandmother was Lisel STREIBANT.
I registered the surname with the JGFF and found that mine was the only
Streibant (or Streiband) registered. I searched the JewishGen and JRI
databases and found nothing. My great grandfather lived in Radomysl Wielki
in Galicia so I am assuming that she came >from somewhere nearby.

Neither Lisel nor her husband, Getzel GEIGER, came to the US, but their son
Jekel (Jake) did and became my grandfather. It is possible that no one >from
the Streibant family emigrated.

If anyone has a connection to Streibant/d please contact me privately.

Suzan Wynne
srwynne@erols.com
Kensington, MD


Re: Replacing a military grave marker #usa

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 00:32:36 UTC, YLCA87@aol.com wrote:

Dear All,

During the conference I visited my ggp's and great uncle's graves at Mt
Carmel Cemetery. My uncle died at 19 in 1919 in WWI France and has a military
marker. After 87 years in the elements the marker is very worn and cannot be
read.

Has anyone ever had a military marker replaced through the Department of
Veterans Affairs? Or ever tried to have the marker replaced? What were the
costs involved?
If you have any information or hints you can share, that would be great.

Best Regards,
Connie Fisher Newhan (#1272)
Corona, California
Why not enquire of the Department of Veterans' Affairs, the addresses of
which are sure to be on the VA website, and which is certain to have more
up-tp-date, more complete, more reliable, and more authoritative information
than you can get here.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Replacing a military grave marker #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 00:32:36 UTC, YLCA87@aol.com wrote:

Dear All,

During the conference I visited my ggp's and great uncle's graves at Mt
Carmel Cemetery. My uncle died at 19 in 1919 in WWI France and has a military
marker. After 87 years in the elements the marker is very worn and cannot be
read.

Has anyone ever had a military marker replaced through the Department of
Veterans Affairs? Or ever tried to have the marker replaced? What were the
costs involved?
If you have any information or hints you can share, that would be great.

Best Regards,
Connie Fisher Newhan (#1272)
Corona, California
Why not enquire of the Department of Veterans' Affairs, the addresses of
which are sure to be on the VA website, and which is certain to have more
up-tp-date, more complete, more reliable, and more authoritative information
than you can get here.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.


Pripet Marshes #general

Marilyn Feingold <mrl516@...>
 

Thanks to all of my friends who sent me information about Pripet
Marshes.What a group!! Now back to the Malamud's, I've give up! Does anyone
know a Warsaw researcher?? Please reply privately. Marilyn Feingold
USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Pripet Marshes #general

Marilyn Feingold <mrl516@...>
 

Thanks to all of my friends who sent me information about Pripet
Marshes.What a group!! Now back to the Malamud's, I've give up! Does anyone
know a Warsaw researcher?? Please reply privately. Marilyn Feingold
USA


Re: What is Kipret Marsh #general

Alexander Sharon
 

"Marilyn Feingold" <mrl516@bellsouth.net> wrote

I just spoke with the widow of a possible relative. She said her father
in law was born in Kipret which is on the Russian/Polish border. Her
husband also mentioned lots of marshes there. Does this register with
anyone? I've looked in '"Where once we Walked " and couldn't find it.
Marilyn,

It should read "Pripet" Marshes. This is the largest swamp of the European
continent situated in the forested basin of Pripet (Russian: Pripyat')
River, the major contributory of the Dnieper River.
from the geographically point of view, Marshes occupy southern Belarus and
Northern Ukraine (Wolyn-Podolsk-Dnieper uplands).
from the Jewish genealogical point of view, this region is known as Polesie
(Woodland in Polish). During the interwar period there was Polesie
wojewodztwo.

List of the Polesie (Pripyat Marshes) major towns reads as the Who is Who in
the Jewish Genealogy: Antopol, Brzesc nad Bugiem (Briest), Drohiczyn, Kamien
Kaszyrski, Kobryn, Kossow, Luniniec, Sarny, Pruzany, and of course, Pinsk.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary Ab


Re: Could Anschnirtz be Auschwitz ? #general

Alexander Sharon
 

"Eve Line Blum" wrote

Still working on the memory book concerning the Convoy#73 that took 878
men >from France to the Baltic States on 15 May 1944, I found a Benjamin
SOLNIK who is said born in "Anschnirtz" in 1900. I couldn't find any
"Anschnirtz" anywhere. On the other hand, I thought that Auschwitz was
Oswiecim before WWII ?
Yes, indeed, town was known as Oswiecim, but only after the year 1918.
Prior to the end of WWI, it was known as Austrian Auschwitz.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: What is Kipret Marsh #general

Alexander Sharon
 

"Marilyn Feingold" <mrl516@bellsouth.net> wrote

I just spoke with the widow of a possible relative. She said her father
in law was born in Kipret which is on the Russian/Polish border. Her
husband also mentioned lots of marshes there. Does this register with
anyone? I've looked in '"Where once we Walked " and couldn't find it.
Marilyn,

It should read "Pripet" Marshes. This is the largest swamp of the European
continent situated in the forested basin of Pripet (Russian: Pripyat')
River, the major contributory of the Dnieper River.
from the geographically point of view, Marshes occupy southern Belarus and
Northern Ukraine (Wolyn-Podolsk-Dnieper uplands).
from the Jewish genealogical point of view, this region is known as Polesie
(Woodland in Polish). During the interwar period there was Polesie
wojewodztwo.

List of the Polesie (Pripyat Marshes) major towns reads as the Who is Who in
the Jewish Genealogy: Antopol, Brzesc nad Bugiem (Briest), Drohiczyn, Kamien
Kaszyrski, Kobryn, Kossow, Luniniec, Sarny, Pruzany, and of course, Pinsk.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary Ab


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Could Anschnirtz be Auschwitz ? #general

Alexander Sharon
 

"Eve Line Blum" wrote

Still working on the memory book concerning the Convoy#73 that took 878
men >from France to the Baltic States on 15 May 1944, I found a Benjamin
SOLNIK who is said born in "Anschnirtz" in 1900. I couldn't find any
"Anschnirtz" anywhere. On the other hand, I thought that Auschwitz was
Oswiecim before WWII ?
Yes, indeed, town was known as Oswiecim, but only after the year 1918.
Prior to the end of WWI, it was known as Austrian Auschwitz.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab.


"What is Kipret Marsh" (Pripet Marsh) #general

Naomi Fatouros
 

On Aug. 25, 2006, Marilyn Feingold asked " What is
Kipret Marsh"

<<I just spoke with the widow of a possible relative. She said her
father in law was born in Kipret which is on the Russian/Polish
border. Her husband also mentioned lots of marshes there. Does this
register with anyone?
I've looked in '"Where once we Walked " and couldn't find it."

I think Marilyn either misheard what the widow said,
or the widow mis pronounced the name: "Pripet"

The famous Pripet marshes refers to a vast
waterlogged area in southern Belarus and northern
Ukraine.

Ms. Feingold should do a google search for "Pripet
Marsh" or "Pripet Marshes. The online Encyclopedia
Brittanic offers an extensive description of the area.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@sbcglobal.net
BELKOWSKY,BIELKOWSKY, BILKOWSKI, Odessa,St. Petersburg,Berdichev,
Kiev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug;FRASCH,Kiev;LIBERMAN,Moscow;FELDMAN, Pinsk;
SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets;LEVY, WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS/
SASS,Podwolochisk;
RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Podwolochisk, Radomysl?; BEHAM, Salok, Kharkov;
WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen "What is Kipret Marsh" (Pripet Marsh) #general

Naomi Fatouros
 

On Aug. 25, 2006, Marilyn Feingold asked " What is
Kipret Marsh"

<<I just spoke with the widow of a possible relative. She said her
father in law was born in Kipret which is on the Russian/Polish
border. Her husband also mentioned lots of marshes there. Does this
register with anyone?
I've looked in '"Where once we Walked " and couldn't find it."

I think Marilyn either misheard what the widow said,
or the widow mis pronounced the name: "Pripet"

The famous Pripet marshes refers to a vast
waterlogged area in southern Belarus and northern
Ukraine.

Ms. Feingold should do a google search for "Pripet
Marsh" or "Pripet Marshes. The online Encyclopedia
Brittanic offers an extensive description of the area.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@sbcglobal.net
BELKOWSKY,BIELKOWSKY, BILKOWSKI, Odessa,St. Petersburg,Berdichev,
Kiev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug;FRASCH,Kiev;LIBERMAN,Moscow;FELDMAN, Pinsk;
SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets;LEVY, WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS/
SASS,Podwolochisk;
RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Podwolochisk, Radomysl?; BEHAM, Salok, Kharkov;
WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


Old Photos available - PRATT, BUCHBINDER, MILLNER #germany

Elizabeth Levy <levyliz@...>
 

Dear Friends,

Having been left about 6 kilos of family photos, one year later I am still
trying to make my way through the pile and to match photos with people. It
is an endless and very frustrating task as most photos do not have any
markings on them.

Among the photos are many who are probably friends of the family. I would
like to return them to the families.

If any of the following are people >from your family, please let me know.

Mirjam MILLNER (photo taken 1934)

Selma (maybe Seline) BUCHBINDER - address on back - Schuetzenstr. 9, Frankfurt

Evelyn PRATT - signed December 1, 1928

Elizabeth Levy Israel <levyliz@smile.net.il>


German SIG #Germany Old Photos available - PRATT, BUCHBINDER, MILLNER #germany

Elizabeth Levy <levyliz@...>
 

Dear Friends,

Having been left about 6 kilos of family photos, one year later I am still
trying to make my way through the pile and to match photos with people. It
is an endless and very frustrating task as most photos do not have any
markings on them.

Among the photos are many who are probably friends of the family. I would
like to return them to the families.

If any of the following are people >from your family, please let me know.

Mirjam MILLNER (photo taken 1934)

Selma (maybe Seline) BUCHBINDER - address on back - Schuetzenstr. 9, Frankfurt

Evelyn PRATT - signed December 1, 1928

Elizabeth Levy Israel <levyliz@smile.net.il>


Re: Proposal for Early American Web Site #usa

hekenvin@...
 

Donn Devine wrote: <"My one concern, however, is your suggestion to broaden the
coverage to as late as 1910.">

I did not mean to extend that date. I was referring to any photographs or other
material on the web site, which I was suggesting should not extend beyond 1910.

Victoria Bennett wrote: <"This proposal sounds as if succesful it could advance
our understanding not only of Jewish history and identity in America but expose
the social conditions...">

I have 19th century-American photographs and other materials that I know would
make an academic drool and I suspect many other of you do too. One of my aims
in making this suggestion was to get that material out there, so that academics
may know what we have.

John Paul Lowens is quite right that "All the endorsements of well-meaning
proposals are meaningless without volunteers."

As he was at the Early American SIG meeting at the NY conference, perhaps he will
remember that I already have volunteered to be Web Leader of the Richmond, VA
site -- PROVIDED there is a Web Master who has the technical know-how to actually
put my Internet-ready material on site. [I am Web Leader of the SKALA site at
<http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/SkalaPodol/>
I work with a Web Master who is the tech-maven. I collect the material, restore
the photos, write the text, etc. and the Web Master puts it on-site.]

If there is anyone out there who will work with me as Web Master on the Richmond,
VA site, I will contact Susanna Bloch (head of Shtetlinks) and get started on
Richmond, so that it may serve as a template for the other Early-American Jewish
communities.

I also said that I would work on the MANHATTAN site, but that undoubtedly will
be massive and requires more thought before any luckless soul volunteers to head
it.

I probably will get clobbered for this next suggestion: I always have felt that
the name SHTETLINKS is inappropriate, as the word SHTETL relates to European
towns. It does not fit Sefardim, Early Americans, and others whose ancestors
are not >from small European towns. Perhaps the site name should be changed to
ANCESTRAL TOWNS or WHERE THEY ONCE LIVED.

Helene Kenvin Florida <hekenvin@bellsouth.net>

MODERATOR NOTE: As per my message about the improved ( except for its unfortunate
name ) ShtetlSeeker, posted to the GerSIG Forum last week, I agree with Helene's
last point.

However, before picking a name it is necessary to find a volunteer webmaster
and project coordinator. JewishGen V.P. for Research Joyce Field has written
in support of this concept. Perhaps she might follow up with a list of steps
needed in order to start work on this proposal. JewishGen has guidelines
both procedural and technical which must be understood and followed.

John Paul Lowens, Suburban NYC, Acting EA SIG Forum Moderator


Re: PERITZ family from Breslau/midwife book, 1846-72 #germany

Irene Newhouse <einew@...>
 

As Roger Lustig notes, the midwife book in question can only contain a small
fraction of the births in Breslau during 1846-1872. The preceding set of
birth records on microfilm are central records & contain mention of several
midwives, even during the same year, and Breslau's Jewish population was not
decreasing during this time. The majority of my mother's ancestors >from this
period were >from Breslau; it may be a coincidence only, but this midwife
served the more devout of my relatives' families, while the births of the
more Reform-minded/assimilated family members of the same period are not to
be found there.

Irene Newhouse Kihei HI <einew@hotmail.com>


Early American SIG #USA Re: Proposal for Early American Web Site #usa

hekenvin@...
 

Donn Devine wrote: <"My one concern, however, is your suggestion to broaden the
coverage to as late as 1910.">

I did not mean to extend that date. I was referring to any photographs or other
material on the web site, which I was suggesting should not extend beyond 1910.

Victoria Bennett wrote: <"This proposal sounds as if succesful it could advance
our understanding not only of Jewish history and identity in America but expose
the social conditions...">

I have 19th century-American photographs and other materials that I know would
make an academic drool and I suspect many other of you do too. One of my aims
in making this suggestion was to get that material out there, so that academics
may know what we have.

John Paul Lowens is quite right that "All the endorsements of well-meaning
proposals are meaningless without volunteers."

As he was at the Early American SIG meeting at the NY conference, perhaps he will
remember that I already have volunteered to be Web Leader of the Richmond, VA
site -- PROVIDED there is a Web Master who has the technical know-how to actually
put my Internet-ready material on site. [I am Web Leader of the SKALA site at
<http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/SkalaPodol/>
I work with a Web Master who is the tech-maven. I collect the material, restore
the photos, write the text, etc. and the Web Master puts it on-site.]

If there is anyone out there who will work with me as Web Master on the Richmond,
VA site, I will contact Susanna Bloch (head of Shtetlinks) and get started on
Richmond, so that it may serve as a template for the other Early-American Jewish
communities.

I also said that I would work on the MANHATTAN site, but that undoubtedly will
be massive and requires more thought before any luckless soul volunteers to head
it.

I probably will get clobbered for this next suggestion: I always have felt that
the name SHTETLINKS is inappropriate, as the word SHTETL relates to European
towns. It does not fit Sefardim, Early Americans, and others whose ancestors
are not >from small European towns. Perhaps the site name should be changed to
ANCESTRAL TOWNS or WHERE THEY ONCE LIVED.

Helene Kenvin Florida <hekenvin@bellsouth.net>

MODERATOR NOTE: As per my message about the improved ( except for its unfortunate
name ) ShtetlSeeker, posted to the GerSIG Forum last week, I agree with Helene's
last point.

However, before picking a name it is necessary to find a volunteer webmaster
and project coordinator. JewishGen V.P. for Research Joyce Field has written
in support of this concept. Perhaps she might follow up with a list of steps
needed in order to start work on this proposal. JewishGen has guidelines
both procedural and technical which must be understood and followed.

John Paul Lowens, Suburban NYC, Acting EA SIG Forum Moderator


German SIG #Germany RE: PERITZ family from Breslau/midwife book, 1846-72 #germany

Irene Newhouse <einew@...>
 

As Roger Lustig notes, the midwife book in question can only contain a small
fraction of the births in Breslau during 1846-1872. The preceding set of
birth records on microfilm are central records & contain mention of several
midwives, even during the same year, and Breslau's Jewish population was not
decreasing during this time. The majority of my mother's ancestors >from this
period were >from Breslau; it may be a coincidence only, but this midwife
served the more devout of my relatives' families, while the births of the
more Reform-minded/assimilated family members of the same period are not to
be found there.

Irene Newhouse Kihei HI <einew@hotmail.com>


Improving Early American website #usa

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

I have been reading with interest the discussion following Helene Kenvin's
excellent suggestions towards developing a web site.

My suggestion is that it cover the appropriate Early American period and
stop at 1870. Anything later is covered by other groups and is not
considered by historians as Early American.

The web site should be more on the level of a Litvak SIG site rather than a
smaller shtetlink site.

The coverage of the site can be possibly divided in the various historical
timeframes of this large chunk of America history such as:

1. Pre-Colonial

2. Colonial Period and Revolutionary War (13 original colonies)

3. War of 1812

4. Age of Expansion (westward exploration and settlement)

5. Civil War and Reconstruction (movement and resettlement, expansion)

In this way, individuals who are primarily interested in research in a
particular timeframe can focus on one of these areas.

You can also have general areas of research such as cemeteries, synagogues,
orphan asylums, landsmannschaftns, etc.

There are a number of excellent organizations which have loads of research
available for the Early American period and they should be approached about
working with the Early American SIG, i.e., American Jewish Historical
Society.

Also, there are already many references on JewishGen to Early American Jews,
i.e., early Czechoslovakian Jews,
http://www.jewishgen.org/BohMor/early_immig.html , one of whom, Joachim
GANS, came as early as 1585 to Roanoke, North Carolina.

It seems to be a matter of going through what is already available and
putting it into a suitable format on a web site. All the best,

Ann Rabinowitz annrab@bellsouth.net


Early American SIG #USA Improving Early American website #usa

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

I have been reading with interest the discussion following Helene Kenvin's
excellent suggestions towards developing a web site.

My suggestion is that it cover the appropriate Early American period and
stop at 1870. Anything later is covered by other groups and is not
considered by historians as Early American.

The web site should be more on the level of a Litvak SIG site rather than a
smaller shtetlink site.

The coverage of the site can be possibly divided in the various historical
timeframes of this large chunk of America history such as:

1. Pre-Colonial

2. Colonial Period and Revolutionary War (13 original colonies)

3. War of 1812

4. Age of Expansion (westward exploration and settlement)

5. Civil War and Reconstruction (movement and resettlement, expansion)

In this way, individuals who are primarily interested in research in a
particular timeframe can focus on one of these areas.

You can also have general areas of research such as cemeteries, synagogues,
orphan asylums, landsmannschaftns, etc.

There are a number of excellent organizations which have loads of research
available for the Early American period and they should be approached about
working with the Early American SIG, i.e., American Jewish Historical
Society.

Also, there are already many references on JewishGen to Early American Jews,
i.e., early Czechoslovakian Jews,
http://www.jewishgen.org/BohMor/early_immig.html , one of whom, Joachim
GANS, came as early as 1585 to Roanoke, North Carolina.

It seems to be a matter of going through what is already available and
putting it into a suitable format on a web site. All the best,

Ann Rabinowitz annrab@bellsouth.net