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Re: Liviya? #general

anarchangel9@...
 

Hello,
Thank you to everyone who emailed me with info on the name 'Liviya'. It
was very helpful.

Alice Egoyan

anarchangel9@... wrote

Hello,
I'm looking for any information on the name Liviya. I was told it was
a very old Hebrew name...Can anyone tell me about its meaning,
significance, etc?
Feel free to email me.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Liviya? #general

anarchangel9@...
 

Hello,
Thank you to everyone who emailed me with info on the name 'Liviya'. It
was very helpful.

Alice Egoyan

anarchangel9@... wrote

Hello,
I'm looking for any information on the name Liviya. I was told it was
a very old Hebrew name...Can anyone tell me about its meaning,
significance, etc?
Feel free to email me.


Family of Abraham GORDON #general

Mike Fischer <miketran@...>
 

My grandfather's name was William GORDON. He had 3 brothers, Joseph, Phillip
and Samuel. Their father's name was Abraham Gordon and the mother was
Rose LEVINE. William, Joseph and Phillip all had sons named Abraham, named
after their father. Joseph was a baker and lived in Brooklyn on 10th Ave.
Phillip lived on E. 2nd St. in Brooklyn and was a contractor. Sam had a paper
bag company in Brooklyn that also made the paper cones for those wonderful
Charlotte Russes found in every bakery. Phillip had a daughter whose married
name was Sylvia EHRLICH and a son Willie who was a doctor in New Jersey.
I had posted a message just last week, looking for the 3 brothers, but in the
meantime, I discovered all this other information.

Wilma Fischer
Passaic, N.J.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Family of Abraham GORDON #general

Mike Fischer <miketran@...>
 

My grandfather's name was William GORDON. He had 3 brothers, Joseph, Phillip
and Samuel. Their father's name was Abraham Gordon and the mother was
Rose LEVINE. William, Joseph and Phillip all had sons named Abraham, named
after their father. Joseph was a baker and lived in Brooklyn on 10th Ave.
Phillip lived on E. 2nd St. in Brooklyn and was a contractor. Sam had a paper
bag company in Brooklyn that also made the paper cones for those wonderful
Charlotte Russes found in every bakery. Phillip had a daughter whose married
name was Sylvia EHRLICH and a son Willie who was a doctor in New Jersey.
I had posted a message just last week, looking for the 3 brothers, but in the
meantime, I discovered all this other information.

Wilma Fischer
Passaic, N.J.


Re: Where is Schoenlanke now? #general

Juergen Stockburger <Stockburger@...>
 

With a little tweaking, jewishgen.org's Shtetl Seeker gives the
answer. The 'oe' in Schoenlanke is almost certainly a transcription of
an umlaut, nowadays it would (in the U.S.) be conventionally
transcribed Schonlanke. And with this spelling you have a hit in the
database: Schonlanke (Trzcianka), 198.1 miles WNW of Warsaw.

Juergen Stockburger
Freiburg im Breisgau, Germany
mailto:Stockburger@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Where is Schoenlanke now? #general

Juergen Stockburger <Stockburger@...>
 

With a little tweaking, jewishgen.org's Shtetl Seeker gives the
answer. The 'oe' in Schoenlanke is almost certainly a transcription of
an umlaut, nowadays it would (in the U.S.) be conventionally
transcribed Schonlanke. And with this spelling you have a hit in the
database: Schonlanke (Trzcianka), 198.1 miles WNW of Warsaw.

Juergen Stockburger
Freiburg im Breisgau, Germany
mailto:Stockburger@...


Re: "Where is Schoenlanke now?" #general

NFatouros@...
 

In his message of 6-28-00, Stephen Esrati said his atlases couldn't tell
him where Schoenlanke, Provinz Posen" was. My 1962 Columbia LIppencott
Gazetteer referred me to "Trszcianka." Under the entry for Trszcianka, it
says that it was in Pomerania and had in 1939 a population of 9,618, which
was reduced by 1946 to 4,482. Forty percent of the town was destroyed during
WW II . It is 15 miles west southwest of Schneidemuhl, and it was known for
furniture manufacturing and sawmilling.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@...
6-29-00


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: "Where is Schoenlanke now?" #general

NFatouros@...
 

In his message of 6-28-00, Stephen Esrati said his atlases couldn't tell
him where Schoenlanke, Provinz Posen" was. My 1962 Columbia LIppencott
Gazetteer referred me to "Trszcianka." Under the entry for Trszcianka, it
says that it was in Pomerania and had in 1939 a population of 9,618, which
was reduced by 1946 to 4,482. Forty percent of the town was destroyed during
WW II . It is 15 miles west southwest of Schneidemuhl, and it was known for
furniture manufacturing and sawmilling.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@...
6-29-00


LURIE #general

Bernard Kouchel <koosh@...>
 

For LURIE researchers, I have only this info on a Lurie who married into
my family.

Sophie ISRAELIT (daughter of Shachna ISRAELIT of Novogrudok & later
Rostov). d. 8 Apr 1933. Spouse: Philip LURIE.

They had 4 daughters; 3 unknown & 1 imm. US before 1920.
Marie LURIE, (1894-1956), Spouse: Joseph BOTEK,
resd. Chicago & later Los .Angeles.

Sophie and Philip and children emigrated to New York. When Philip became
lonely they returned to Russia. Daughter Marie remained in USA.

koosh@...
Bernard Kouchel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen LURIE #general

Bernard Kouchel <koosh@...>
 

For LURIE researchers, I have only this info on a Lurie who married into
my family.

Sophie ISRAELIT (daughter of Shachna ISRAELIT of Novogrudok & later
Rostov). d. 8 Apr 1933. Spouse: Philip LURIE.

They had 4 daughters; 3 unknown & 1 imm. US before 1920.
Marie LURIE, (1894-1956), Spouse: Joseph BOTEK,
resd. Chicago & later Los .Angeles.

Sophie and Philip and children emigrated to New York. When Philip became
lonely they returned to Russia. Daughter Marie remained in USA.

koosh@...
Bernard Kouchel


PARNES/PARNAS/PARNESS family #galicia

Bill & Renee Stevens <brstevens@...>
 

My maternal greatgrandfather was David PARNES of Nesnanow (east of Lviv).
Unfortunately, I have no other information about his family. However, an
elderly cousin recently told me that she remembers her father (the youngest
son of David PARNES) telling her that they had a cousin who was a professor
at the University of Lvov. I have been able to find a record for Yakov
PARNAS (note the different spelling), the son of Oscar PARNAS. Yakov was a
famous biochemist and was born in 1884 and died in 1949. That makes him a
contemporary of my cousin who, coincidentally enough, was also named Jacob
and was born in 1886. Oscar is also a name that runs in my family. The
oldest brother of David was named Oscar as was a younger cousin.

from the report about our PARNAS professor, I found out that he was born in
Mokryany Village, Drohobyche District. I found it in Shtetl Seeker.

My gut (or perhaps wishful thinking) suggests that our Yacov PARNAS is
probably related to my family. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to figure
out how to trace it. Any suggestions?

Also, in checking Family Finder, I find that many of the PARNES (including
alternative spellings) are clustered in the area around Lviv, particularly
east of the city around Zolochev, Glinyany, and Gologory. It is not that
unusual a name, so I cannot assume that all are related, even distantly. On
the other hand, the clustering pattern appears to be of interest. Again,
any thoughts on what to pursue?

Renee Stevens
Bethesda, MD

searching
GLATTSTEIN (Lviv)
WOLF (Lviv, Wien)
SELIGMAN (Velikiye Mosty, Lviv, Wien, Paris)
TENNENBAUM (Nesnanow, Lviv)
PARNES (Nesnanow, Lviv)


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia PARNES/PARNAS/PARNESS family #galicia

Bill & Renee Stevens <brstevens@...>
 

My maternal greatgrandfather was David PARNES of Nesnanow (east of Lviv).
Unfortunately, I have no other information about his family. However, an
elderly cousin recently told me that she remembers her father (the youngest
son of David PARNES) telling her that they had a cousin who was a professor
at the University of Lvov. I have been able to find a record for Yakov
PARNAS (note the different spelling), the son of Oscar PARNAS. Yakov was a
famous biochemist and was born in 1884 and died in 1949. That makes him a
contemporary of my cousin who, coincidentally enough, was also named Jacob
and was born in 1886. Oscar is also a name that runs in my family. The
oldest brother of David was named Oscar as was a younger cousin.

from the report about our PARNAS professor, I found out that he was born in
Mokryany Village, Drohobyche District. I found it in Shtetl Seeker.

My gut (or perhaps wishful thinking) suggests that our Yacov PARNAS is
probably related to my family. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to figure
out how to trace it. Any suggestions?

Also, in checking Family Finder, I find that many of the PARNES (including
alternative spellings) are clustered in the area around Lviv, particularly
east of the city around Zolochev, Glinyany, and Gologory. It is not that
unusual a name, so I cannot assume that all are related, even distantly. On
the other hand, the clustering pattern appears to be of interest. Again,
any thoughts on what to pursue?

Renee Stevens
Bethesda, MD

searching
GLATTSTEIN (Lviv)
WOLF (Lviv, Wien)
SELIGMAN (Velikiye Mosty, Lviv, Wien, Paris)
TENNENBAUM (Nesnanow, Lviv)
PARNES (Nesnanow, Lviv)


Admin. Districts #galicia

JEisenbrg@...
 

Is there an online resource for tying towns to AD's?

Thanks

Jonathan Eisenberg
Minnetonka, MN


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Admin. Districts #galicia

JEisenbrg@...
 

Is there an online resource for tying towns to AD's?

Thanks

Jonathan Eisenberg
Minnetonka, MN


Re: Success at a Price #galicia

hankman <hankman@...>
 

Hi,

I disagree strongly with Debbie on this matter. Brian is on the right
track in questioning the fees being charged. I think that thirty,
forty, and certainly seventy (American) dollars per record is
absolutely gouging. We should let the Polish authorities know that
emphatically. There is a major difference between capitalism in
private enterprise and being gouged by a public record authority that
should only be there to serve. If this was the US or Canadian
government we would scream loud and clear, but we are afraid to
antagonize the Poles as they gouge us for records of our families. A
reasonable charge is to be expected but not this outrageous rate. In
those situations where tedious search is required, of course a charge
should be made for the time, but when all the pertinent data is
supplied and all that remains is to access the record and photocopy
it, this is certainly gouging of the worst kind by a public authority
supervising public records.

PS: I'll bet that Polish nationals, when they enter the door and seek
records of their parents are not charged $70 which is a very
significant sum, on an average Polish wage.

Complain loud and clear, make them ashamed for their policy to gouge
us. Do not white-wash and excuse their outrageous rates, anymore than
you would if our government tried the same. Do not be polite and
accepting if they do not have the courtesy to treat you reasonably.

Regards,
Chaim Manaster
Montreal, Canada

----- Original Message -----
From: "Debbie Raff" <seraff@...>
To: "Gesher Galicia SIG" <galicia@...>
Cc: <BrianS@...>
Sent: June 25, 2000 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: Success at a Price


It cost me 70 dollars just to receive a copy of my dad's birth
certificate a
couple of years ago. I did not go through the archives, but through
the
Consulate in Los Angeles. I received an extract on a typed
template, not
the original copy >from the record book. So, >from my point of view
35
dollars seems 'almost' like a bargain.

At the time I ordered the birth certificate, I noted that the fee
had just
gone up. Poland has realized that there is money to be made, and
that
people are willing to pay. I can't fault them for this, after all
this is
the American way, isn't it? (grin)

Debbie Raff
California
<seraff@...>

Brian Stern wrote:

The good news is that I sent a query to the USC Archive Warsaw a
couple
months ago and received a letter back >from the Polish consulate in
Los
Angeles saying that they have five records for me.

The bad news is that they want US$35 for each record.

The last time I sent a query to the USC Warsaw they sent me back
three
records at no charge.

I want the records, of course, so I will send them the money but
I'm
wondering if others have paid the same for BMD records.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Success at a Price #galicia

hankman <hankman@...>
 

Hi,

I disagree strongly with Debbie on this matter. Brian is on the right
track in questioning the fees being charged. I think that thirty,
forty, and certainly seventy (American) dollars per record is
absolutely gouging. We should let the Polish authorities know that
emphatically. There is a major difference between capitalism in
private enterprise and being gouged by a public record authority that
should only be there to serve. If this was the US or Canadian
government we would scream loud and clear, but we are afraid to
antagonize the Poles as they gouge us for records of our families. A
reasonable charge is to be expected but not this outrageous rate. In
those situations where tedious search is required, of course a charge
should be made for the time, but when all the pertinent data is
supplied and all that remains is to access the record and photocopy
it, this is certainly gouging of the worst kind by a public authority
supervising public records.

PS: I'll bet that Polish nationals, when they enter the door and seek
records of their parents are not charged $70 which is a very
significant sum, on an average Polish wage.

Complain loud and clear, make them ashamed for their policy to gouge
us. Do not white-wash and excuse their outrageous rates, anymore than
you would if our government tried the same. Do not be polite and
accepting if they do not have the courtesy to treat you reasonably.

Regards,
Chaim Manaster
Montreal, Canada

----- Original Message -----
From: "Debbie Raff" <seraff@...>
To: "Gesher Galicia SIG" <galicia@...>
Cc: <BrianS@...>
Sent: June 25, 2000 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: Success at a Price


It cost me 70 dollars just to receive a copy of my dad's birth
certificate a
couple of years ago. I did not go through the archives, but through
the
Consulate in Los Angeles. I received an extract on a typed
template, not
the original copy >from the record book. So, >from my point of view
35
dollars seems 'almost' like a bargain.

At the time I ordered the birth certificate, I noted that the fee
had just
gone up. Poland has realized that there is money to be made, and
that
people are willing to pay. I can't fault them for this, after all
this is
the American way, isn't it? (grin)

Debbie Raff
California
<seraff@...>

Brian Stern wrote:

The good news is that I sent a query to the USC Archive Warsaw a
couple
months ago and received a letter back >from the Polish consulate in
Los
Angeles saying that they have five records for me.

The bad news is that they want US$35 for each record.

The last time I sent a query to the USC Warsaw they sent me back
three
records at no charge.

I want the records, of course, so I will send them the money but
I'm
wondering if others have paid the same for BMD records.


Introduction and some questions #galicia

Josef A. Herz <josef@...>
 

Hi - I'm Josef Herz. I just joined your list.

I just started my genealogy search for my parent's family -
- the family Herz >from Lvov/Lwow/Lviv/Lemberg
- the family Sigal >from Lvov, Kristinopol and Stojanow

I just returned >from a quick trip to Lviv, UA and Warsaw, Poland -
visiting some of the archives - trying initiate the search process as
well as understand how I can continue to submit requests remotely.

Does anyone have any feedback on their experience dealing with the
State Archive in Lviv?
- Positive? Negative?
- types of records that you were able to obtain?
- duration of wait?
- best way of dealing with them?
- use of researchers to do the look-up?

Thank you in advance.



--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Josef Herz

[Welcome, Josef. Where are you writing from? - MOD]


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Introduction and some questions #galicia

Josef A. Herz <josef@...>
 

Hi - I'm Josef Herz. I just joined your list.

I just started my genealogy search for my parent's family -
- the family Herz >from Lvov/Lwow/Lviv/Lemberg
- the family Sigal >from Lvov, Kristinopol and Stojanow

I just returned >from a quick trip to Lviv, UA and Warsaw, Poland -
visiting some of the archives - trying initiate the search process as
well as understand how I can continue to submit requests remotely.

Does anyone have any feedback on their experience dealing with the
State Archive in Lviv?
- Positive? Negative?
- types of records that you were able to obtain?
- duration of wait?
- best way of dealing with them?
- use of researchers to do the look-up?

Thank you in advance.



--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Josef Herz

[Welcome, Josef. Where are you writing from? - MOD]


Update: Kosher food (and mikva'ot) in SLC #general

MBernet@...
 

Please put this line in your subject

Update: Kosher food in SLC
I have collected information on the availability of kosher food at the
upcoming Jewish genealogy conference, and sent it off to those who had
requested it. I will be glad to send it to any others who seek sources for
kosher/vegetarian food. In your request, please put the following in the
subject line.
Update: Kosher food in SLC
The conference organizers were unable to make arrangements this year to
provide kosher food, and this is being done privately as a service to those
who not only seek out the memories of their ancestors but live by some of
their spiritual values.

You might wish to contact the organizers and urge them to make the
information available also as part of the conference kit for those who are
not members of this List.

Michael Bernet
New Rochelle, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Update: Kosher food (and mikva'ot) in SLC #general

MBernet@...
 

Please put this line in your subject

Update: Kosher food in SLC
I have collected information on the availability of kosher food at the
upcoming Jewish genealogy conference, and sent it off to those who had
requested it. I will be glad to send it to any others who seek sources for
kosher/vegetarian food. In your request, please put the following in the
subject line.
Update: Kosher food in SLC
The conference organizers were unable to make arrangements this year to
provide kosher food, and this is being done privately as a service to those
who not only seek out the memories of their ancestors but live by some of
their spiritual values.

You might wish to contact the organizers and urge them to make the
information available also as part of the conference kit for those who are
not members of this List.

Michael Bernet
New Rochelle, NY