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Re: Point of Embarkation for Romanian #general

Paul Silverstone
 

I am surprised you found so many since it is only recently that the
"approved" spelling has an O in it. In the past it has often been
"Rumania".
Paul Silverstone

Robert Zavos wrote:

...
I used Steve Morse's One Step Tools (with my paid subscription service)
for all NY ports and entered Place of Origin starts with "Roman" [due to
different spellings] and Year=1888. There were over 1000 hits!
...
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Point of Embarkation for Romanian #general

Paul Silverstone
 

I am surprised you found so many since it is only recently that the
"approved" spelling has an O in it. In the past it has often been
"Rumania".
Paul Silverstone

Robert Zavos wrote:

...
I used Steve Morse's One Step Tools (with my paid subscription service)
for all NY ports and entered Place of Origin starts with "Roman" [due to
different spellings] and Year=1888. There were over 1000 hits!
...
Otto Stroebel-Michelbach an der Luecke #germany

Emily Rose
 

Otto Stroebel, who received Honorable Mention from
the Obermayer German Jewish History Foundation for his work
as historian of the Jews in Michelbach an der Luecke
and Hengstfeld, passed away in January, 2007.

He was always helpful and supportive and will be greatly missed.
For information as to how you might honor his memory,
please contact the office of the mayor of Wallhausen;
the mayor's representative is Jürgen Rosenäcker

juergen.rosenaecker@gemeinde-wallhausen.de

Emily Rose, Naples, FL erose@emrosebooks.com
German SIG #Germany Otto Stroebel-Michelbach an der Luecke #germany

Emily Rose
 

Otto Stroebel, who received Honorable Mention from
the Obermayer German Jewish History Foundation for his work
as historian of the Jews in Michelbach an der Luecke
and Hengstfeld, passed away in January, 2007.

He was always helpful and supportive and will be greatly missed.
For information as to how you might honor his memory,
please contact the office of the mayor of Wallhausen;
the mayor's representative is Jürgen Rosenäcker

juergen.rosenaecker@gemeinde-wallhausen.de

Emily Rose, Naples, FL erose@emrosebooks.com
Searching for Descendants of Gerard J. FUCHS #germany

MiriFM@...
 

I am searching for the family (descendants) of Gerard Jacob FUCHS born
June 27, 1899 in Berlin-Schoeneberg. He was the son of Prof. Dr.
Maximilian FUCHS and Helene FUCHS, nee BOAS. Gerard died in 1992 in
Manhattan, New York City. Until at least 1982, he was living at
Bennett Ave in the Washington Heights neighborhood of New York City.
His business was importing and selling German books and his office was in NYC.

I would greatly appreciate if someone would kindly check for an obit in
the NYTimes and/or the Aufbau.

Miriam Friedman Morris Pomona, NY MiriFM@aol.com
German SIG #Germany Searching for Descendants of Gerard J. FUCHS #germany

MiriFM@...
 

I am searching for the family (descendants) of Gerard Jacob FUCHS born
June 27, 1899 in Berlin-Schoeneberg. He was the son of Prof. Dr.
Maximilian FUCHS and Helene FUCHS, nee BOAS. Gerard died in 1992 in
Manhattan, New York City. Until at least 1982, he was living at
Bennett Ave in the Washington Heights neighborhood of New York City.
His business was importing and selling German books and his office was in NYC.

I would greatly appreciate if someone would kindly check for an obit in
the NYTimes and/or the Aufbau.

Miriam Friedman Morris Pomona, NY MiriFM@aol.com
Collis near Gera #germany

E. Randol Schoenberg
 

I am looking at Collis near Gera, Thueringia, Germany as a possible origin
of my KOLISCH family. I see that there is a three-volume work by Werner
Simsohn (d. 2001) on the Jews of Gera. Has anyone seen this?

Randol Schoenberg Los Angeles, CA <randols@bslaw.net>
German SIG #Germany Collis near Gera #germany

E. Randol Schoenberg
 

I am looking at Collis near Gera, Thueringia, Germany as a possible origin
of my KOLISCH family. I see that there is a three-volume work by Werner
Simsohn (d. 2001) on the Jews of Gera. Has anyone seen this?

Randol Schoenberg Los Angeles, CA <randols@bslaw.net>
Re: Mommsen Gymnasium #germany

Fritz Neubauer
 

Judith Diamond, in London wrote:
"My father studied at the Mommsen Gymnasium in Charlottenburg, Berlin until 1917.
Can anyone give me more information about it, its precise address,
and whether the building survives?"

If you search under google.de, you will get a few hits, including a
reference to a publication of the Berlin Mommsen-Gymnasium, but also a
few other genuine references, if you ignore the ones >from other German
towns like Leipzig or Flensburg where other Mommsen-Gymnasiums exist:

http://www.flb-gotha.de/schulschriften/charlottenburg/ch_mgym.html

With kind regards

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany
German SIG #Germany Re: Mommsen Gymnasium #germany

Fritz Neubauer
 

Judith Diamond, in London wrote:
"My father studied at the Mommsen Gymnasium in Charlottenburg, Berlin until 1917.
Can anyone give me more information about it, its precise address,
and whether the building survives?"

If you search under google.de, you will get a few hits, including a
reference to a publication of the Berlin Mommsen-Gymnasium, but also a
few other genuine references, if you ignore the ones >from other German
towns like Leipzig or Flensburg where other Mommsen-Gymnasiums exist:

http://www.flb-gotha.de/schulschriften/charlottenburg/ch_mgym.html

With kind regards

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany
SICHEL entries in public records -in England #germany

Alan Ehrlich
 

Werner Zimmt's posting, in turn, struck a note with me, regarding my
JOSUA / JOSHUA ancestors.

My great grandfather's brother John JOSHUA, born in Hamburg Germany 1 Dec
1814, moved to London UK. He first appears in the 1881 census, which lists
him as a stock jobber, and by which time there weren't (and wouldn't any longer
have been any children - if there were any - still living in his household).

The only other JOSHUA I find in the Census is Philip Joshua, also in
finance, married to Margarethe (Mary Sophie) SICHEL, though it appears that
Philip JOSHUA may be unrelated to "my" John JOSHUA. Margarethe (Mary Sophie)
SICHEL is the daughter of Gustav August SICHEL:born 8 May 1825 and Henriette
Moritz GOLDSCHMID, born 4 April 1830.

1861 Census
-----------
Priory Road, Hampstead (London)
Gustavas SICHEL, head, married, 36, Commission Merchant, b Frankfurt
Germany, Nat. British Subject
Henrietta 30, b Manchester
Mary Sophia 8, b London
Alice Isabella 4, b London
Martha Augusta 8m, b London
Plus 3 servants.
RG9/92/12/23

1881 Census
-----------
153 Abbey Rd, London, Middlesex, England
Gustavas SICHEL, age 55, Retired Broker, b Frankfurt Germany
Henriette SICHEL, wife, married, 50, b Frankfurt Germany
Alice J. SICHEL, Daur, unmarried, 24, b Hampstead Middlesex
Martha A. SICHEL, Daur, unmarried, 20, b Hampstead Middlesex
Lucy SICHEL, Daur, unmarried, 16, b Hampstead Middlesex
Dora A. SICHEL, Daur, unmarried, 15, b Hampstead Middlesex
+ 3 servants
RG11/0172 / 30/4

Directories
-----------
Directory of Manchester & Salford, 1853
SICHEL Gustavus, 7 Port Street

Post Office Directory of Middlesex, 1874
SICHEL G. 153 Abbey Road, Kilburn

Court Directory
SICHEL G. 153 Abbey Road, Kilburn NW

Post Office London Directory, 1882. [Part 2: Commercial & Professional
Directory] SICHEL Gustavus, financial agent, 5 Angel court EC

Children of Gustavus and Henrietta
----------------------------------
Alice Isabella SICHEL
Marriage Sep 1885 to MODEL, Louis: Marylebone 1a 1219

1881 Census
-----------
4 Howland St, London, Middlesex, England
Louis MODEL, unmarried, 25, Nat B S, Germany, Manufacturer Emp 18 M 3 By
RG11/0186/21/2

1901 Census
-----------
105 Tellows (?) Rd Hampstead
Louis MODEL, head, 45, Stockbroker agent, employer, b Germany BS
Alice, wife, 42, b London Kilburn + 3 servants

Martha Augusta SICHEL, b Sep 1860, Hampstead 1a 468
Lucy SICHEL, Dora A. SICHEL, b Jun 1866, Hampstead 1a 570

Gustavus had 3 brothers and emigrated to Manchester with his father
Sylvestro Augustus Sichel. Sylvestro, his father and his son Julius were
all Honorary Vice Consul to Austria in Manchester and the family and its
descendants were all involved in the manufacturing of Wool, Cotton and
textiles in Manchester (Lancashire) and Bradford (West Riding in Yorkshire)
England. This was all part of a great change in the north of England as the
Industrial Revolution was taking hold and the Empire was at its strongest
during this time. Gustavus went to London to become a stock broker and is
the only member of the family who did not stay in the North during the first
two decades after they emigrated. Kind regards,

Alan Ehrlich Geneva Switzerland alan.ehrlich@ehrlich-online.com
German SIG #Germany SICHEL entries in public records -in England #germany

Alan Ehrlich
 

Werner Zimmt's posting, in turn, struck a note with me, regarding my
JOSUA / JOSHUA ancestors.

My great grandfather's brother John JOSHUA, born in Hamburg Germany 1 Dec
1814, moved to London UK. He first appears in the 1881 census, which lists
him as a stock jobber, and by which time there weren't (and wouldn't any longer
have been any children - if there were any - still living in his household).

The only other JOSHUA I find in the Census is Philip Joshua, also in
finance, married to Margarethe (Mary Sophie) SICHEL, though it appears that
Philip JOSHUA may be unrelated to "my" John JOSHUA. Margarethe (Mary Sophie)
SICHEL is the daughter of Gustav August SICHEL:born 8 May 1825 and Henriette
Moritz GOLDSCHMID, born 4 April 1830.

1861 Census
-----------
Priory Road, Hampstead (London)
Gustavas SICHEL, head, married, 36, Commission Merchant, b Frankfurt
Germany, Nat. British Subject
Henrietta 30, b Manchester
Mary Sophia 8, b London
Alice Isabella 4, b London
Martha Augusta 8m, b London
Plus 3 servants.
RG9/92/12/23

1881 Census
-----------
153 Abbey Rd, London, Middlesex, England
Gustavas SICHEL, age 55, Retired Broker, b Frankfurt Germany
Henriette SICHEL, wife, married, 50, b Frankfurt Germany
Alice J. SICHEL, Daur, unmarried, 24, b Hampstead Middlesex
Martha A. SICHEL, Daur, unmarried, 20, b Hampstead Middlesex
Lucy SICHEL, Daur, unmarried, 16, b Hampstead Middlesex
Dora A. SICHEL, Daur, unmarried, 15, b Hampstead Middlesex
+ 3 servants
RG11/0172 / 30/4

Directories
-----------
Directory of Manchester & Salford, 1853
SICHEL Gustavus, 7 Port Street

Post Office Directory of Middlesex, 1874
SICHEL G. 153 Abbey Road, Kilburn

Court Directory
SICHEL G. 153 Abbey Road, Kilburn NW

Post Office London Directory, 1882. [Part 2: Commercial & Professional
Directory] SICHEL Gustavus, financial agent, 5 Angel court EC

Children of Gustavus and Henrietta
----------------------------------
Alice Isabella SICHEL
Marriage Sep 1885 to MODEL, Louis: Marylebone 1a 1219

1881 Census
-----------
4 Howland St, London, Middlesex, England
Louis MODEL, unmarried, 25, Nat B S, Germany, Manufacturer Emp 18 M 3 By
RG11/0186/21/2

1901 Census
-----------
105 Tellows (?) Rd Hampstead
Louis MODEL, head, 45, Stockbroker agent, employer, b Germany BS
Alice, wife, 42, b London Kilburn + 3 servants

Martha Augusta SICHEL, b Sep 1860, Hampstead 1a 468
Lucy SICHEL, Dora A. SICHEL, b Jun 1866, Hampstead 1a 570

Gustavus had 3 brothers and emigrated to Manchester with his father
Sylvestro Augustus Sichel. Sylvestro, his father and his son Julius were
all Honorary Vice Consul to Austria in Manchester and the family and its
descendants were all involved in the manufacturing of Wool, Cotton and
textiles in Manchester (Lancashire) and Bradford (West Riding in Yorkshire)
England. This was all part of a great change in the north of England as the
Industrial Revolution was taking hold and the Empire was at its strongest
during this time. Gustavus went to London to become a stock broker and is
the only member of the family who did not stay in the North during the first
two decades after they emigrated. Kind regards,

Alan Ehrlich Geneva Switzerland alan.ehrlich@ehrlich-online.com
Help - Deciphering town name (Viewmate) #romania

Moshe & Esther Davis <davis@...>
 

It would really be appreciated if anyone can help me identify the
town name listed in this Ohio death certificate as the birthplace of
the deceased and of both of his parents.

Posted on Viewmate:

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=9453

Or a shorter version (if the above URL splits on more than one line) :

http://tinyurl.com/36svy3

The subject of this death certificate lived after his marriage in
Szeleslonka (also known as Leh or as Shirukiy Lug), Marmaros,
Austro-Hungary, which is currently located in southwestern Ukraine
near the Romainian border, between the cities Chust and Sziget.

This place name doesn't seem to resemble any of the place names
in the entire surrounding region of Marmaros, Austro-Hungary! See:

<http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/maramures/mar901.html>

for a list of the town names in the Marmaros region. Perhaps this
town is >from one of the surrounding Counties?)

Thanking you in advance,

Moshe Davis
Jerusalem
Romania SIG #Romania Help - Deciphering town name (Viewmate) #romania

Moshe & Esther Davis <davis@...>
 

It would really be appreciated if anyone can help me identify the
town name listed in this Ohio death certificate as the birthplace of
the deceased and of both of his parents.

Posted on Viewmate:

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=9453

Or a shorter version (if the above URL splits on more than one line) :

http://tinyurl.com/36svy3

The subject of this death certificate lived after his marriage in
Szeleslonka (also known as Leh or as Shirukiy Lug), Marmaros,
Austro-Hungary, which is currently located in southwestern Ukraine
near the Romainian border, between the cities Chust and Sziget.

This place name doesn't seem to resemble any of the place names
in the entire surrounding region of Marmaros, Austro-Hungary! See:

<http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/maramures/mar901.html>

for a list of the town names in the Marmaros region. Perhaps this
town is >from one of the surrounding Counties?)

Thanking you in advance,

Moshe Davis
Jerusalem
Re: Unusual Occupation #unitedkingdom

Stein Lewis
 

Some fifty-five years ago, during services at our tiny synagogue in
Ardmore, Oklahoma (17 families), a group of tramps came in and sat in
the last two rows. One of them was Jewish, and he needed to say
kaddish. They stayed for a bit of wine and left.

Lewis Stein
Boynton Beach, FL

MODERATOR NOTE: Whilst this has no bearing on UK research it has been allowed through
for posting as it responds to Harold Pollins email.
JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: Unusual Occupation #unitedkingdom

Stein Lewis
 

Some fifty-five years ago, during services at our tiny synagogue in
Ardmore, Oklahoma (17 families), a group of tramps came in and sat in
the last two rows. One of them was Jewish, and he needed to say
kaddish. They stayed for a bit of wine and left.

Lewis Stein
Boynton Beach, FL

MODERATOR NOTE: Whilst this has no bearing on UK research it has been allowed through
for posting as it responds to Harold Pollins email.
Re: Halevi Benveniste/Halevi Epstein connection #sephardic

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 2/12/2007 5:27:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
meepstein@insightbb.com writes:

<< Has anyone ever followed the families of Pincus and Aaron Halevi
Benveniste?
These brothers left Portugal with their families at the end of the 13
century. They separated and Pincus changed his family name to Horowitz and
Aaron changed his family name to Epstein. We are trying to see if there is a
connection between our Halevi Epstein family and that of Aarons.>>

==That is one version of a common story that is probably largely true. But
there is much dispute over which geographic Epstein location they were named
after. The common version has the Benvenistes coming out of Spain in 1492, two
centuries later. In the family's split, it's usually reported, one half went
to Greece, the other to Austria.

==Horowitz took their name >from a town in Bohemia. They too are Levites.
That may be the only link they have to the Epsteins.

==I suggest you do a thorough search on these two families and their
accepted histories and establish for yourself whether a search for your Portuguese
roots is worth the effort. It may be much easier to trace your way back >from
your parents, generation by generation. You may quite possibly find direct
links for 4 centuries. Anything beyond that is pure gravy.

Michael Bernet, New York
MBernet@aol.com
Sephardic SIG #Sephardim Re: Halevi Benveniste/Halevi Epstein connection #sephardic

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 2/12/2007 5:27:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
meepstein@insightbb.com writes:

<< Has anyone ever followed the families of Pincus and Aaron Halevi
Benveniste?
These brothers left Portugal with their families at the end of the 13
century. They separated and Pincus changed his family name to Horowitz and
Aaron changed his family name to Epstein. We are trying to see if there is a
connection between our Halevi Epstein family and that of Aarons.>>

==That is one version of a common story that is probably largely true. But
there is much dispute over which geographic Epstein location they were named
after. The common version has the Benvenistes coming out of Spain in 1492, two
centuries later. In the family's split, it's usually reported, one half went
to Greece, the other to Austria.

==Horowitz took their name >from a town in Bohemia. They too are Levites.
That may be the only link they have to the Epsteins.

==I suggest you do a thorough search on these two families and their
accepted histories and establish for yourself whether a search for your Portuguese
roots is worth the effort. It may be much easier to trace your way back >from
your parents, generation by generation. You may quite possibly find direct
links for 4 centuries. Anything beyond that is pure gravy.

Michael Bernet, New York
MBernet@aol.com
Revised Posting Isadore COHEN 1904 NYC #general

JSwilliams67362@...
 

It has been suggested that I add more information to my original posting.

My grandfather, Jacob (or Jack as he is shown on the ship's manifest)
ROSENTHAL, b 1873 in London, then married and residing in Manchester, travelled
to the States in 1904 to stay with his cousin Isadore COHEN at 312 E 91st, NYC I
had hoped that someone might recognise their Isadore >from this address.
Jacob only stayed there for a few years before returning to England.

I do not know of any Cohens on my grandfather's side of the family. Of
course, Isadore could have been the son of one of his father's or mother's
siblings - they were Lewis Rosenthal and Betsy SOLOMONS. However Jacob's mother
in law was born Adelaide Cohen in the 1840s in Poland and married Solomon CUKIER
(later anglicised to SUGAR) who was >from Novy Dvor, nr Warsaw. The family
came to the UK in the 1870s. Isadore could have been on her side of the family.

Judith Williams
Leeds
UK
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Revised Posting Isadore COHEN 1904 NYC #general

JSwilliams67362@...
 

It has been suggested that I add more information to my original posting.

My grandfather, Jacob (or Jack as he is shown on the ship's manifest)
ROSENTHAL, b 1873 in London, then married and residing in Manchester, travelled
to the States in 1904 to stay with his cousin Isadore COHEN at 312 E 91st, NYC I
had hoped that someone might recognise their Isadore >from this address.
Jacob only stayed there for a few years before returning to England.

I do not know of any Cohens on my grandfather's side of the family. Of
course, Isadore could have been the son of one of his father's or mother's
siblings - they were Lewis Rosenthal and Betsy SOLOMONS. However Jacob's mother
in law was born Adelaide Cohen in the 1840s in Poland and married Solomon CUKIER
(later anglicised to SUGAR) who was >from Novy Dvor, nr Warsaw. The family
came to the UK in the 1870s. Isadore could have been on her side of the family.

Judith Williams
Leeds
UK
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