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Was someone born in Galicia considered a Pole or Austrian
#galicia
Wwhwhf@...
The question as stated -- Was someone born in Galicia considered a Pole or an
Austrian -- has no clear answer because it is stated too simplistically and imprecisely. Any single answer to the question as stated is necessarily naive. One must first know: 1) What is meant by "considered"? "considered" in what sense? Considered for purposes of issuance of passport? Considered as far a citizenship goes? Considered in terms of ethnic group membership? 2) Who is doing the considering? One's friends and family? the government then in power in Galicia? countries other than Austria-Hungary or Poland, for purposes of immigration or quotas or census? 3) For what period in history is one doing the considering? During the Austro-Hungarian Empire? During period when all of Galicia was governed by the republic of Poland? Today? If for defining citizenship or application for passport or safeconduct pass, the historical period is critical. 4) Is the period when the person born really significant for purposes of this consideration? For example, someone born in Galicia under Austria Hungary, who emigrated before World War I was an Austro=Hungarian citizen. If that same person remained there until the period between the World Wars and then wished to emigrate, that same person was then a Polish citizen and eligible for a Polish passport. 5)Where in Galicia? If one is discussing present-day Galicia, the answer to a citizenship question could be either Polish or Ukrainian citizen, but never Austrian. 6) Persons who emigrated >from Galicia before World War I reported to US immigration authorities that they were >from Austria or Austria Hungary, but when among friends, especially between the World Wars, when asked where they came from, would say Poland -- both because the area was then under Polish governance and because it had been the Polish part of Austria Hungary. If the question is re-phrased, it would be easier to reply. William Fern
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Was someone born in Galicia considered a Pole or Austrian
#galicia
Wwhwhf@...
The question as stated -- Was someone born in Galicia considered a Pole or an
Austrian -- has no clear answer because it is stated too simplistically and imprecisely. Any single answer to the question as stated is necessarily naive. One must first know: 1) What is meant by "considered"? "considered" in what sense? Considered for purposes of issuance of passport? Considered as far a citizenship goes? Considered in terms of ethnic group membership? 2) Who is doing the considering? One's friends and family? the government then in power in Galicia? countries other than Austria-Hungary or Poland, for purposes of immigration or quotas or census? 3) For what period in history is one doing the considering? During the Austro-Hungarian Empire? During period when all of Galicia was governed by the republic of Poland? Today? If for defining citizenship or application for passport or safeconduct pass, the historical period is critical. 4) Is the period when the person born really significant for purposes of this consideration? For example, someone born in Galicia under Austria Hungary, who emigrated before World War I was an Austro=Hungarian citizen. If that same person remained there until the period between the World Wars and then wished to emigrate, that same person was then a Polish citizen and eligible for a Polish passport. 5)Where in Galicia? If one is discussing present-day Galicia, the answer to a citizenship question could be either Polish or Ukrainian citizen, but never Austrian. 6) Persons who emigrated >from Galicia before World War I reported to US immigration authorities that they were >from Austria or Austria Hungary, but when among friends, especially between the World Wars, when asked where they came from, would say Poland -- both because the area was then under Polish governance and because it had been the Polish part of Austria Hungary. If the question is re-phrased, it would be easier to reply. William Fern
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Re: Nationality
#galicia
Peter Zavon <PZavon@...>
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 Harvey <panthercat644@...> asked: Was someone born in Galicia considered a Pole or anAnyone born in Galicia when it existed as a province of the Austro-Hungarian Empire or, earlier, of the Hapsburg Empire, was a Subjec= t of the Emperor of Austria for official purposes. Such a person would hav= e been recorded as "Austrian" for most official purposes, such as obtaining= US citizenship. However, The Austro-Hungarian Empire was a multi-ethnic empire. It subjects generally maintained their ethnic identities. So an Austrian subject might describe himself as a Pole or a Czech, etc. Jews were generally seen as an ethnic group, so many would dscribe themselves as Je= ws rather than Poles, for example. The more secularized might have prefered= to call themselves Poles rather than Jews,or Austrians rather than Jews, but official procedures might have prevented that. People born in what had been Galicia but was then part of inter-war Polan= d (>from 1920 until WWII) would have been citizens of Poland and would have been recorded as such. They would be Poles for purposed of obtaining US citizenship. = Peter Zavon, Editor Gesher Galicia Family Finder Penfield, NY PZAVON@...
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Re: Nationality
#galicia
Peter Jassem <jassep@...>
Harvey [SMTP:panthercat644@...] wrote:
Was someone born in Galicia considered a Pole or an Austrian ? The term Galicia was the name Austrians applied to the traditional part of Poland inhabited mostly by Poles, Ukrainians (eastern part) and Jews, that they annexed in the process of partitions of Poland. Therefore people who lived there between 1772 and 1918 (only) under Austrian administration were in political sense Austrian subjects and documents >from that period such as civil and immigration records, ship manifests etc. will reflect this. In national, ethnic or linguistic sense however they were not Austrians and referred to themselves as Poles, Ukrainians or Jews. Peter Jassem jassep@... Toronto, Ontario
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Nationality
#galicia
Peter Zavon <PZavon@...>
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 Harvey <panthercat644@...> asked: Was someone born in Galicia considered a Pole or anAnyone born in Galicia when it existed as a province of the Austro-Hungarian Empire or, earlier, of the Hapsburg Empire, was a Subjec= t of the Emperor of Austria for official purposes. Such a person would hav= e been recorded as "Austrian" for most official purposes, such as obtaining= US citizenship. However, The Austro-Hungarian Empire was a multi-ethnic empire. It subjects generally maintained their ethnic identities. So an Austrian subject might describe himself as a Pole or a Czech, etc. Jews were generally seen as an ethnic group, so many would dscribe themselves as Je= ws rather than Poles, for example. The more secularized might have prefered= to call themselves Poles rather than Jews,or Austrians rather than Jews, but official procedures might have prevented that. People born in what had been Galicia but was then part of inter-war Polan= d (>from 1920 until WWII) would have been citizens of Poland and would have been recorded as such. They would be Poles for purposed of obtaining US citizenship. = Peter Zavon, Editor Gesher Galicia Family Finder Penfield, NY PZAVON@...
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia RE: Nationality
#galicia
Peter Jassem <jassep@...>
Harvey [SMTP:panthercat644@...] wrote:
Was someone born in Galicia considered a Pole or an Austrian ? The term Galicia was the name Austrians applied to the traditional part of Poland inhabited mostly by Poles, Ukrainians (eastern part) and Jews, that they annexed in the process of partitions of Poland. Therefore people who lived there between 1772 and 1918 (only) under Austrian administration were in political sense Austrian subjects and documents >from that period such as civil and immigration records, ship manifests etc. will reflect this. In national, ethnic or linguistic sense however they were not Austrians and referred to themselves as Poles, Ukrainians or Jews. Peter Jassem jassep@... Toronto, Ontario
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An Appeal to all survivors and descendants from Rozan, Poland
#general
Ada Holtzman <ada01@...>
On behalf of The Association of the Former Jewish Residents of Rozan Nad
Narev, Poland in Israel I appeal to all survivors and descendants >from that town to contact the chairman in order to participate in two special memorial projects. One project is building a memorial monument in the center of town, on the plot where once stood the grand synagogue of town before the destruction, and restoration of the Rozan's old Jewish Cemetery. The second project is posting the Yizkor book of Rozan, English part and translations >from the Yiddish and Hebrew parts in JewishGen Yizkor Books database. Thank you, shalom, Ada Holtzman Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/4017/ MODERATOR NOTE: Contact information for the Chairman of the Association was deleted. JewishGen's policy is not to violate personal privacy by posting the address, telephone number or email address of another individual in the Discussion Group. Please contact Ada Holtzman at <ada01@...> for more information.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen An Appeal to all survivors and descendants from Rozan, Poland
#general
Ada Holtzman <ada01@...>
On behalf of The Association of the Former Jewish Residents of Rozan Nad
Narev, Poland in Israel I appeal to all survivors and descendants >from that town to contact the chairman in order to participate in two special memorial projects. One project is building a memorial monument in the center of town, on the plot where once stood the grand synagogue of town before the destruction, and restoration of the Rozan's old Jewish Cemetery. The second project is posting the Yizkor book of Rozan, English part and translations >from the Yiddish and Hebrew parts in JewishGen Yizkor Books database. Thank you, shalom, Ada Holtzman Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/4017/ MODERATOR NOTE: Contact information for the Chairman of the Association was deleted. JewishGen's policy is not to violate personal privacy by posting the address, telephone number or email address of another individual in the Discussion Group. Please contact Ada Holtzman at <ada01@...> for more information.
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Kaligia? - Birthplace in 1920 census
#general
LClauson@...
Relative lists as his birthplace, Kaligia. Letter "g" could be "z"
or "y". There is no listing in Where Once We Walked. Most census listed birthplaces are countries. Nothing in Jewishgen search records. Appreciate any ideas. Thanks Lois Clauson California
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Kaligia? - Birthplace in 1920 census
#general
LClauson@...
Relative lists as his birthplace, Kaligia. Letter "g" could be "z"
or "y". There is no listing in Where Once We Walked. Most census listed birthplaces are countries. Nothing in Jewishgen search records. Appreciate any ideas. Thanks Lois Clauson California
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seeking Philip Siegel of Har Nof, Israel
#general
Saul Goldstone <sgoldsto@...>
Jewisgeners,
I found the following person (Philip Gary Siegel) in the JGFF database and have sent him an email which has bounced back as "undeliverable". If anyone knows his correct email address .... please send it to me. Phillip Gary Siegel (#14629) Har Nof Israel pgs@... Thanks, Saul Goldstone Saratoga, California sgoldsto@...
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No Spammers Please Explain
#general
Carol Raspler
Not all of us are totally computer literate - yet. So for our sake, could
those of you with this "no spam" business in your addresses please tell us exactly how to contact you when you send a letter to the Discussion Group? Or am I out of line here? [Aaron Gross re Philadelphia Yiddish newspapers please copy and get in touch with me]. Thanks to all for your patience and understanding. Carol Raspler, Delray Beach, FL
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen seeking Philip Siegel of Har Nof, Israel
#general
Saul Goldstone <sgoldsto@...>
Jewisgeners,
I found the following person (Philip Gary Siegel) in the JGFF database and have sent him an email which has bounced back as "undeliverable". If anyone knows his correct email address .... please send it to me. Phillip Gary Siegel (#14629) Har Nof Israel pgs@... Thanks, Saul Goldstone Saratoga, California sgoldsto@...
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen No Spammers Please Explain
#general
Carol Raspler
Not all of us are totally computer literate - yet. So for our sake, could
those of you with this "no spam" business in your addresses please tell us exactly how to contact you when you send a letter to the Discussion Group? Or am I out of line here? [Aaron Gross re Philadelphia Yiddish newspapers please copy and get in touch with me]. Thanks to all for your patience and understanding. Carol Raspler, Delray Beach, FL
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Passport Applications
#general
Foodphile@...
Can someone please point me in the right direction to get a copy of a
passport application for a passport issued in New York, in the 1940's (after the war?) Thanks very much. Meryl Persky Calabasas, Ca. DUNITZ (DONETZ), Kovel, Ukr. SALZMAN, Ukr. KETCHMAN, Ukr. HIRSCH, Grybow area, Pol. LEDER, Ryglice, Pol, TEPPER, Galicia KELLNER, Ostropol, Russia COHEN, Ostropol, Russia SCHEIER (SCHAJER)(SCHEUER), Grybow area, Pol. SPERBER, Galicia. KARTAGENER, Tuchow, Pol. GRUNBERG (GREENBERG) Kishinev. GELLER, Grybow/Tarnow.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Passport Applications
#general
Foodphile@...
Can someone please point me in the right direction to get a copy of a
passport application for a passport issued in New York, in the 1940's (after the war?) Thanks very much. Meryl Persky Calabasas, Ca. DUNITZ (DONETZ), Kovel, Ukr. SALZMAN, Ukr. KETCHMAN, Ukr. HIRSCH, Grybow area, Pol. LEDER, Ryglice, Pol, TEPPER, Galicia KELLNER, Ostropol, Russia COHEN, Ostropol, Russia SCHEIER (SCHAJER)(SCHEUER), Grybow area, Pol. SPERBER, Galicia. KARTAGENER, Tuchow, Pol. GRUNBERG (GREENBERG) Kishinev. GELLER, Grybow/Tarnow.
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Jewish genealogy with a twist
#general
Ilya Zeldes <ilyaz@...>
May someone in Boston area make a lookup in the Boston City Business
Directory (1920-1930) for an Armenian Newspaper (or magazine) AREV. I'm looking for someone associated with this publication. Thank you for any assistance. P.S. Interlibrary loan was unable to obtain a copy of this publication... Ilya Zeldes ILYAZ@...
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish genealogy with a twist
#general
Ilya Zeldes <ilyaz@...>
May someone in Boston area make a lookup in the Boston City Business
Directory (1920-1930) for an Armenian Newspaper (or magazine) AREV. I'm looking for someone associated with this publication. Thank you for any assistance. P.S. Interlibrary loan was unable to obtain a copy of this publication... Ilya Zeldes ILYAZ@...
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Re: Nationality
#galicia
Peter Jassem <jassep@...>
In response to my recent posting on Gesher Galicia SIG I received a letter
from one of our members. I think the issue is important so I decided torespond in public. The letter says: Thanks, any Jew born in Galica should be considered Jewish, not Polish,Dear H..., your comment is very emotional and I understand this. The historical fact however is that some Jews, especially in large cities like Krakow or Lwow and in particular intelligentsia considered themselves Polish. Those who live in Poland now and are aware of their Jewishness, like famous intellectual Adam Michnik, consider themselves Polish just as much as Senator Libermann considers himself American. The same logic applies to other countries. And as ill as it may sound to you (and I don't like it either) many Jews before the Holocaust were proud to be German. I think it is important to realize this historical truth in order to understand the true dimension of the Holocaust tragedy and betrayal. Peter Jaseem jassep@... Toronto, Ontario
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Schelly Talalay Dardashti's email
#general
Myra S. Davis <myrabokpg@...>
Dear Geners,
Sorry to send this out to the digest but I have an email address for Schelly >from 1998 which is bounching so it is probably outdated. Anyone know her currant one or Schelly please write me. Need to ask question. Thanks to all Myra Davis, Tucson, AZ myrabokpg@... MODERATOR NOTE: Always check the JewishGen Discussion Group Archives for the latest email address.
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