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Steve Morse Europe lectures #germany

JewishGen German Research Division Coordinator
 

Internet Database expert Steve Morse will lecture in at least 3 European cities
in June and early July.

Steve's speaking schedule is posted on his website. Go to
http://stevemorse.org and click Public Appearances (near the
top of the home page) or go directly to
http://stevemorse.org/abstracts.html#schedule

The three cities already mentioned here (Copenhagen, Hamburg,
London) are the only upcoming venues listed there that are
outside North America.

The information I pulled together is:

Copenhagen, Denmark
Wednesday, June 13, 7:00 p.m.
JGS of Denmark
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgs-denmark/society.htm

Hamburg, Germany
Wednesday, June 20
Hamburger Gesellschaft fr Judische Genealogie
http://www.iajgs.org/Yearbook2006/GermanyHamburg.pdf

London, England
Sunday, July 1
JGS of Great Britain
http://www.jgsgb.org.uk/prog07q2.shtml

Thanks to Renee Stern Steinig
Moderator, Gesher Galicia Mailing List GGSIGMod@gmail.com


German SIG #Germany Steve Morse Europe lectures #germany

JewishGen German Research Division Coordinator
 

Internet Database expert Steve Morse will lecture in at least 3 European cities
in June and early July.

Steve's speaking schedule is posted on his website. Go to
http://stevemorse.org and click Public Appearances (near the
top of the home page) or go directly to
http://stevemorse.org/abstracts.html#schedule

The three cities already mentioned here (Copenhagen, Hamburg,
London) are the only upcoming venues listed there that are
outside North America.

The information I pulled together is:

Copenhagen, Denmark
Wednesday, June 13, 7:00 p.m.
JGS of Denmark
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgs-denmark/society.htm

Hamburg, Germany
Wednesday, June 20
Hamburger Gesellschaft fr Judische Genealogie
http://www.iajgs.org/Yearbook2006/GermanyHamburg.pdf

London, England
Sunday, July 1
JGS of Great Britain
http://www.jgsgb.org.uk/prog07q2.shtml

Thanks to Renee Stern Steinig
Moderator, Gesher Galicia Mailing List GGSIGMod@gmail.com


shidduch networks #germany

Ralph Bloch <rablo07@...>
 

Adam Yamey and I were discussing marriage patterns he found while
transcribing Ichenhausen marriage records (http://jgbs.org).

Long before the advent of railways, marriageable young people from
Ichenhausen (and other Swabian communities) found partners in specific
Jewish communities of Baden, Wuertemberg and the Palatinates, hundreds of
miles away.

Travel, phone and internet can be safely ruled out as courting venues. This
raises the question: did formal or informal shadchanut networks exist
between distant Jewish communities in the 18th and 19th century? How would
they have communicated? Does anyone know about literature on this topic?

Ralph Bloch Dundas, Canada <rablo07@cogeco.ca>


German SIG #Germany shidduch networks #germany

Ralph Bloch <rablo07@...>
 

Adam Yamey and I were discussing marriage patterns he found while
transcribing Ichenhausen marriage records (http://jgbs.org).

Long before the advent of railways, marriageable young people from
Ichenhausen (and other Swabian communities) found partners in specific
Jewish communities of Baden, Wuertemberg and the Palatinates, hundreds of
miles away.

Travel, phone and internet can be safely ruled out as courting venues. This
raises the question: did formal or informal shadchanut networks exist
between distant Jewish communities in the 18th and 19th century? How would
they have communicated? Does anyone know about literature on this topic?

Ralph Bloch Dundas, Canada <rablo07@cogeco.ca>


Where Did the BERMANN'S Come From? #germany

Steve Orlen
 

Dear Cousins,
I've been working on my mother-in-law's BERMANN family tree & every
once in a while she'll ask if I've found out where they came >from
before they lived in Germany. I tell her No, I'll probably never
found out. She tells me she thinks they were originally Sephardic,
from Spain. Her BERMANN's can be traced back to circa 1774, living in
Zell on the Mosel, and in other towns in that vicinity.

I wish I could answer her question, or at least offer a speculative
historical time-line. My question is: does anyone know the history of
Sephardic exiles in Germany?

Best, Steve Orlen Tucson AZ <sorlen@email.arizona.edu>


German SIG #Germany Where Did the BERMANN'S Come From? #germany

Steve Orlen
 

Dear Cousins,
I've been working on my mother-in-law's BERMANN family tree & every
once in a while she'll ask if I've found out where they came >from
before they lived in Germany. I tell her No, I'll probably never
found out. She tells me she thinks they were originally Sephardic,
from Spain. Her BERMANN's can be traced back to circa 1774, living in
Zell on the Mosel, and in other towns in that vicinity.

I wish I could answer her question, or at least offer a speculative
historical time-line. My question is: does anyone know the history of
Sephardic exiles in Germany?

Best, Steve Orlen Tucson AZ <sorlen@email.arizona.edu>


Jews of Ireland #general

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

For those of you who are researching the Jews of Ireland, a book came out in
2006 which might be of help in your studies. It is called "Jewish Ireland
in the Age of Joyce: A Socioeconomic History" by Cormac O'Grada. It covers
the approximate era of 1870-1940.

An excerpt of the book can be found at:

http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/i8284.html

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jews of Ireland #general

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

For those of you who are researching the Jews of Ireland, a book came out in
2006 which might be of help in your studies. It is called "Jewish Ireland
in the Age of Joyce: A Socioeconomic History" by Cormac O'Grada. It covers
the approximate era of 1870-1940.

An excerpt of the book can be found at:

http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/i8284.html

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


Re: announcement from USHMM #austria-czech

Bob Lenk
 

Thank you, Joyce, for posting this announcement. I am very glad to hear
of this discovery, and I have a few questions:

1) Will anyone be able to attend this discussion and report to this list?

2) Does anyone know more about the content of these materials than what
is on the USHMM website?

3) Does anyone know whether, or to what extent, these materials are
impacting pending restitution processes such as the General Settlement
Fund? The USHMM site says: "The IKG quickly packed up and transported
the records to the newly established Holocaust Victims’ Information and
Support Center, primarily to assess the material for immediate use in
pending restitution and compensation claims."

Bob Lenk
Greeley, Colorado, USA


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: announcement from USHMM #austria-czech

Bob Lenk
 

Thank you, Joyce, for posting this announcement. I am very glad to hear
of this discovery, and I have a few questions:

1) Will anyone be able to attend this discussion and report to this list?

2) Does anyone know more about the content of these materials than what
is on the USHMM website?

3) Does anyone know whether, or to what extent, these materials are
impacting pending restitution processes such as the General Settlement
Fund? The USHMM site says: "The IKG quickly packed up and transported
the records to the newly established Holocaust Victims’ Information and
Support Center, primarily to assess the material for immediate use in
pending restitution and compensation claims."

Bob Lenk
Greeley, Colorado, USA


More Policejny Prihlasky + Thanks #austria-czech

Judith Berlowitz <judigenie@...>
 

Thanks to Julius Muller and to Hanus Petr Grab for
help in reading & deciphering the fine print on a
census record >from the Policejny Prihlasky,
http://digi.nacr.cz/prihlasky/index.php?session=8367a5cc97e32c9db996a7e2759fe786&action=search

Now I would like some help with the report on the
family of my 1c3r, Ignatz FRESCHL, to be found at
http://digi.nacr.cz/prihlasky/index.php?session=8367a5cc97e32c9db996a7e2759fe786&action=record&x=23&t=7&m=1
Ignatz had evidently died by the date of the first
report (1883)and the report shows his widow, Ludmilla
(aka Karoline/Charlotte) REINER as head of the family.
I have no problem with names or dates or titles such
as son/daughter/widow, but I do need help
understanding other items in the Charakter column, and
especially in the birthplace of Ludmilla and the last
item in the Heimatschein column.
Please reply privately to
Judith Berlowitz
Oakland, CA


Trauer Album #austria-czech

Ellie Carson <ellie.carson@...>
 

I have found a small black book that has the words Trauer-Album and then
Tal-Orot written on the cover. The inside cover has a page taped in it with
my grandfather's name, his date of death and then a list of years with 3
columns after the year. One column has words like Mittwoch, Donnerst and
Samstag.

There is a page with my grandmother's name on it with her date of death
followed by the same information as described above by year >from 1935 to
1980. In hers, one of the columns has words like Samstag, Donnerstag and
Montag

There is a photo of both my grandmother and my grandfather.

What is this book? It appears to be some sort of memorial book Most of it
is in German although there is some Hebrew writing in it as well.

Thank you for any information you can give me.

Ellie Carson
Monmouth, OR USA
ellie.carson@att.net


David Deutsch #austria-czech

Ellie Carson <ellie.carson@...>
 

I have been going through my mother's things. I found a picture of a
gravestone for David DEUTSCH. He was born Sept 9, 1869 and died May 22,
1924. The picture was taken in 1958 and the cemetery appears a bit
overgrown. She traveled to Prague that year - I'm not sure where else she
went. Does anyone have any ideas???

Ellie Carson
ellie.carson@att.net
Monmouth, OR
USA


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech More Policejny Prihlasky + Thanks #austria-czech

Judith Berlowitz <judigenie@...>
 

Thanks to Julius Muller and to Hanus Petr Grab for
help in reading & deciphering the fine print on a
census record >from the Policejny Prihlasky,
http://digi.nacr.cz/prihlasky/index.php?session=8367a5cc97e32c9db996a7e2759fe786&action=search

Now I would like some help with the report on the
family of my 1c3r, Ignatz FRESCHL, to be found at
http://digi.nacr.cz/prihlasky/index.php?session=8367a5cc97e32c9db996a7e2759fe786&action=record&x=23&t=7&m=1
Ignatz had evidently died by the date of the first
report (1883)and the report shows his widow, Ludmilla
(aka Karoline/Charlotte) REINER as head of the family.
I have no problem with names or dates or titles such
as son/daughter/widow, but I do need help
understanding other items in the Charakter column, and
especially in the birthplace of Ludmilla and the last
item in the Heimatschein column.
Please reply privately to
Judith Berlowitz
Oakland, CA


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Trauer Album #austria-czech

Ellie Carson <ellie.carson@...>
 

I have found a small black book that has the words Trauer-Album and then
Tal-Orot written on the cover. The inside cover has a page taped in it with
my grandfather's name, his date of death and then a list of years with 3
columns after the year. One column has words like Mittwoch, Donnerst and
Samstag.

There is a page with my grandmother's name on it with her date of death
followed by the same information as described above by year >from 1935 to
1980. In hers, one of the columns has words like Samstag, Donnerstag and
Montag

There is a photo of both my grandmother and my grandfather.

What is this book? It appears to be some sort of memorial book Most of it
is in German although there is some Hebrew writing in it as well.

Thank you for any information you can give me.

Ellie Carson
Monmouth, OR USA
ellie.carson@att.net


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech David Deutsch #austria-czech

Ellie Carson <ellie.carson@...>
 

I have been going through my mother's things. I found a picture of a
gravestone for David DEUTSCH. He was born Sept 9, 1869 and died May 22,
1924. The picture was taken in 1958 and the cemetery appears a bit
overgrown. She traveled to Prague that year - I'm not sure where else she
went. Does anyone have any ideas???

Ellie Carson
ellie.carson@att.net
Monmouth, OR
USA


Re: GershoN and GershoM #general

Ury Link
 

Dear genners,

In this case everyone have give a good answer. GershoN is the son of Levy ,
Genesis 46 vers11. GershoM is the son of Moshe Exodus 2 vers 22. But in
the book Chronica A 6 vers1 is written that the name of the son of Levy is
GershoM !!. So one time the are 2 names for the same person and one time
it is a name for 2 different persons.

Best regards

Ury link
Amsterdam
Holland

MODERATOR NOTE: This subject is beginning to drift off-topic. Please keep
any further responses on matters pertaining to the original question
posted by Joy Weaver which asked if Gersh and Gershon were different
names.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: GershoN and GershoM #general

Ury Link
 

Dear genners,

In this case everyone have give a good answer. GershoN is the son of Levy ,
Genesis 46 vers11. GershoM is the son of Moshe Exodus 2 vers 22. But in
the book Chronica A 6 vers1 is written that the name of the son of Levy is
GershoM !!. So one time the are 2 names for the same person and one time
it is a name for 2 different persons.

Best regards

Ury link
Amsterdam
Holland

MODERATOR NOTE: This subject is beginning to drift off-topic. Please keep
any further responses on matters pertaining to the original question
posted by Joy Weaver which asked if Gersh and Gershon were different
names.


Re: Answering Inquiries #general

Evertjan. <exjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

Allan Dolgow wrote on 29 apr 2007 in soc.genealogy.jewish:

It amazes me that there are responses posted questions do not answer
the question.
Allan, there is a difference between a response and a answer.

OQ [original questions] asked on usenet often open a box of knowlwdge and a
box of related questions that are interesting and useful and ON TOPIC.

Usenet and this NG s.g.j. is not a payed helpdesk, so an on topic response
in a thread not always is an answer.

Even the drifting of the subject into seemingly unrelated but NG-on-topic
subjects is more a virtue than a hindrance of this NG [and many other NGs],
only the needed corection of the subject line is often forgotten.

Only off topic answers should be delt with promptly by the moderators.

IMHO.

--
Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Answering Inquiries #general

Evertjan. <exjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

Allan Dolgow wrote on 29 apr 2007 in soc.genealogy.jewish:

It amazes me that there are responses posted questions do not answer
the question.
Allan, there is a difference between a response and a answer.

OQ [original questions] asked on usenet often open a box of knowlwdge and a
box of related questions that are interesting and useful and ON TOPIC.

Usenet and this NG s.g.j. is not a payed helpdesk, so an on topic response
in a thread not always is an answer.

Even the drifting of the subject into seemingly unrelated but NG-on-topic
subjects is more a virtue than a hindrance of this NG [and many other NGs],
only the needed corection of the subject line is often forgotten.

Only off topic answers should be delt with promptly by the moderators.

IMHO.

--
Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)