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Help with Polish Birth Record on ViewMate #general

DrsJavinskyLittle <SusanLittleDVM@...>
 

Dear Genners:

I have posted the Polish birth record for my husband's gg grandfather on
ViewMate - file VM112.

I believe I have translated the following information correctly:

Israel Icyk Dziewiecki born Feb ?, 1849
Father: Kalma Dziewiecki, age 37
Mother: Ruchli Ickowicz, age 25

I cannot read the date in February that Israel Icyk was born and I cannot=

decipher the occupation of his father or where he lived. Could a kind
genner please have a look for me?

Thank you in advance !

Susan Javinsky
Ottawa, Canada
Researching: DZIEWIECKI, PALESNICKI (Dzialoszyce, Poland)
WEINSHENKER (Warszawa, Poland), HUSNEY (Aleppo, Syria)


Re: Researcher Advice #ukraine

GojuMom@...
 

As for researchers, there is a link through JewishGen which lists
professional genealogists and their qualifications. It can be found at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/ajgs/jgsla/apg.htm

And also in the FAQ files there is an article with suggestions on how to
hire a professional genealogist written by a professional genalogist.

http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/profgen.txt

Hope this helps.
JoAnne Vanett,
Ambler, PA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help with Polish Birth Record on ViewMate #general

DrsJavinskyLittle <SusanLittleDVM@...>
 

Dear Genners:

I have posted the Polish birth record for my husband's gg grandfather on
ViewMate - file VM112.

I believe I have translated the following information correctly:

Israel Icyk Dziewiecki born Feb ?, 1849
Father: Kalma Dziewiecki, age 37
Mother: Ruchli Ickowicz, age 25

I cannot read the date in February that Israel Icyk was born and I cannot=

decipher the occupation of his father or where he lived. Could a kind
genner please have a look for me?

Thank you in advance !

Susan Javinsky
Ottawa, Canada
Researching: DZIEWIECKI, PALESNICKI (Dzialoszyce, Poland)
WEINSHENKER (Warszawa, Poland), HUSNEY (Aleppo, Syria)


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Researcher Advice #ukraine

GojuMom@...
 

As for researchers, there is a link through JewishGen which lists
professional genealogists and their qualifications. It can be found at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/ajgs/jgsla/apg.htm

And also in the FAQ files there is an article with suggestions on how to
hire a professional genealogist written by a professional genalogist.

http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/profgen.txt

Hope this helps.
JoAnne Vanett,
Ambler, PA


Re: YV lists answers #hungary

Gabor Hirsch <hirsch@...>
 

I am afraid my letter was unreadable, so I resend it in Textformat only.


[mod.- Thank you Gabor. Nearly 100 subscribers, all of whom have AOL cannot receive messages except when sent in "plain text" format. LS

I believe I have the same kind of listing >from different source, from
Bekescsaba, neolog and orthodox
Battonya
Bekes
even in the same settlement might be differing even in headings, I take
Bekescsaba as an example my hometown, as well as I transcribed it.

Orthodox community; Each member of the family is on a separate line.
1st. col. running number; The 2nd col. is name, first name; 3rd col.
Mothers name, first name; 4th..  col. last address.

Neolog community; Each family member is in a common line the 1st.  col.
running number; 2nd. col. name, first name; 3rd col. Mothers name, first
name; 4th col. wife's maiden name first name; 5th col. chlordane's name
6th col. last address.

Mezotur, Each family one line and common 1st col. running number; 2nd
col. name first name; 3rd. col. last address; 4th col. mother's name
first name, 5th col. wife yes/no; 6th. col. no of children

Mezokovacshaza;  Each family one line and common 1st col. running
number; 2nd col. name first name; 3rd col. date of birth; 4th col.
family status; 5th col. mother's name first name; 6th col. first name of
family members; 7th col. birth data of fam.. members; 7th col. last
address

Battonya each family one line, no running number, column for birth

place, date, father's first name, mother's name and first name, address
(but settlement only)

I saw may be one list with profession added.

AS you see the lists are quite individually set up. There are quite a
lot of orthographic errors included, the list had to be prepared on
short notice. I believe it is an advantage, if you came of the place and
definitely understands some Hungarian. I am willing to send you the
computer lists of the settlements of the ghetto >from Bekescsaba if they
are identical with the ones you are going to get, because it don't give
me any additional work  but you have to validate, proof it. But as the
source is neither >from Y.V. nor >from the Jewishgen/H-SIG I want to use
them and expand them with register of death if Shoa victims, for me they
are not genealogical but Shoa documents. The settlements I am ready to
cooperate are Banhegyes, Battonya, Bekes, Bekescsaba, Endrod, Gyula,
Mezokovacshaza, Oroshaza, Szarvas, Totkomlos. The list of Szarvas is
missing, Bekescsaba is finished with some 2049 person.

Best regards
Gabor Hirsch

Louis Schonfeld schrieb:

. The following is a more complete
description  and the requirements for the various tasks needed:
. The following are the column headings:

1. sequence number 2. name of deportee, for female married deportee
also
includes maiden name 3. birth location 4. date of birth 5. mother's
maiden
name 6. occupation 7. address of res


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: YV lists answers #hungary

Gabor Hirsch <hirsch@...>
 

I am afraid my letter was unreadable, so I resend it in Textformat only.


[mod.- Thank you Gabor. Nearly 100 subscribers, all of whom have AOL cannot receive messages except when sent in "plain text" format. LS

I believe I have the same kind of listing >from different source, from
Bekescsaba, neolog and orthodox
Battonya
Bekes
even in the same settlement might be differing even in headings, I take
Bekescsaba as an example my hometown, as well as I transcribed it.

Orthodox community; Each member of the family is on a separate line.
1st. col. running number; The 2nd col. is name, first name; 3rd col.
Mothers name, first name; 4th..  col. last address.

Neolog community; Each family member is in a common line the 1st.  col.
running number; 2nd. col. name, first name; 3rd col. Mothers name, first
name; 4th col. wife's maiden name first name; 5th col. chlordane's name
6th col. last address.

Mezotur, Each family one line and common 1st col. running number; 2nd
col. name first name; 3rd. col. last address; 4th col. mother's name
first name, 5th col. wife yes/no; 6th. col. no of children

Mezokovacshaza;  Each family one line and common 1st col. running
number; 2nd col. name first name; 3rd col. date of birth; 4th col.
family status; 5th col. mother's name first name; 6th col. first name of
family members; 7th col. birth data of fam.. members; 7th col. last
address

Battonya each family one line, no running number, column for birth

place, date, father's first name, mother's name and first name, address
(but settlement only)

I saw may be one list with profession added.

AS you see the lists are quite individually set up. There are quite a
lot of orthographic errors included, the list had to be prepared on
short notice. I believe it is an advantage, if you came of the place and
definitely understands some Hungarian. I am willing to send you the
computer lists of the settlements of the ghetto >from Bekescsaba if they
are identical with the ones you are going to get, because it don't give
me any additional work  but you have to validate, proof it. But as the
source is neither >from Y.V. nor >from the Jewishgen/H-SIG I want to use
them and expand them with register of death if Shoa victims, for me they
are not genealogical but Shoa documents. The settlements I am ready to
cooperate are Banhegyes, Battonya, Bekes, Bekescsaba, Endrod, Gyula,
Mezokovacshaza, Oroshaza, Szarvas, Totkomlos. The list of Szarvas is
missing, Bekescsaba is finished with some 2049 person.

Best regards
Gabor Hirsch

Louis Schonfeld schrieb:

. The following is a more complete
description  and the requirements for the various tasks needed:
. The following are the column headings:

1. sequence number 2. name of deportee, for female married deportee
also
includes maiden name 3. birth location 4. date of birth 5. mother's
maiden
name 6. occupation 7. address of res


Microfilmed Jewish Records of Lengyeltoti #hungary

Dave and Beth Long <dnblong@...>
 

Re: Lengyeltoti

There are microfilmed records of Jewish births, deaths, and marriages of
Lengyeltoti (Somogy county) >from 1846-1895. You can rent them at the
closest LDS (Mormon) Family History Center. The microfilm number is
0642887.

Beth Long
dnblong@cts.com


Hungary SIG #Hungary Microfilmed Jewish Records of Lengyeltoti #hungary

Dave and Beth Long <dnblong@...>
 

Re: Lengyeltoti

There are microfilmed records of Jewish births, deaths, and marriages of
Lengyeltoti (Somogy county) >from 1846-1895. You can rent them at the
closest LDS (Mormon) Family History Center. The microfilm number is
0642887.

Beth Long
dnblong@cts.com


Re: Solicitation from researcher advice #ukraine

SRivkin742@...
 

one takes thier chances when dealing with the unknown - Avotaynu has had much
useful info in the past on researchers >from regular writers. I wish Avotaynu
would
create a list of Avotaynu approved researchers. Any of you who subscribe and
read
the magazine regularly should already have the info you need. If you dont get
it you
should - besides belonging to your local Jewish Gene. Society all should
belong
to Avotaynu the number one Jewish Genelogical publication in the country - who
is partly responsible for some of the JewishGen databases and so much more.
This is not an ad - this is fact and common sense - I have no connection with
the Avotaynu people - but they do work together with JewishGen and other
groups.
My advice is get the Avotaynu CD Rom's of all past issues and check for
articles
and testimonials on Ukraine researchers and archivists. Also keep in mind
things
change fast so some info will be out of date. For instance last I heard RAGAS
will no longer do research but will supply a list of researchers without any
guarantees
on the researchers.

Steve Rivkin


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Solicitation from researcher advice #ukraine

SRivkin742@...
 

one takes thier chances when dealing with the unknown - Avotaynu has had much
useful info in the past on researchers >from regular writers. I wish Avotaynu
would
create a list of Avotaynu approved researchers. Any of you who subscribe and
read
the magazine regularly should already have the info you need. If you dont get
it you
should - besides belonging to your local Jewish Gene. Society all should
belong
to Avotaynu the number one Jewish Genelogical publication in the country - who
is partly responsible for some of the JewishGen databases and so much more.
This is not an ad - this is fact and common sense - I have no connection with
the Avotaynu people - but they do work together with JewishGen and other
groups.
My advice is get the Avotaynu CD Rom's of all past issues and check for
articles
and testimonials on Ukraine researchers and archivists. Also keep in mind
things
change fast so some info will be out of date. For instance last I heard RAGAS
will no longer do research but will supply a list of researchers without any
guarantees
on the researchers.

Steve Rivkin


Re: ukraine 0ld Constantine 1920 to 1940Looking ff #ukraine

Evie000@...
 

I am looking for anyone that lived here at that time.....The family that i
am trying to get information on is KORDONSKY....I know they had a store
there..any information would be greatly appreciated........thanks

Evelyn Yager
evie000@aol.com


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: ukraine 0ld Constantine 1920 to 1940Looking ff #ukraine

Evie000@...
 

I am looking for anyone that lived here at that time.....The family that i
am trying to get information on is KORDONSKY....I know they had a store
there..any information would be greatly appreciated........thanks

Evelyn Yager
evie000@aol.com


Kolchin Kostantin Wolinsky Ukraine #ukraine

Jmrdesign@...
 

Hi, is anyone familiar with Kolchin Kostantin Wolinsky? My great uncle stated
that this is where he was >from in the Ukraine on his application for social
security in 1942. Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Melissa Rothman
Jmrdesign@aol.com


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Kolchin Kostantin Wolinsky Ukraine #ukraine

Jmrdesign@...
 

Hi, is anyone familiar with Kolchin Kostantin Wolinsky? My great uncle stated
that this is where he was >from in the Ukraine on his application for social
security in 1942. Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Melissa Rothman
Jmrdesign@aol.com


Re: reaching out to family #ukraine

Doug Cohen <DMCohen@...>
 

Everybody loves to look at family trees. I've been most successful at
contacting unknown and distant relatives when I've mailed them a family
tree, circling their names and my own.

It's giving them something in advance, so they feel they aren't taking all
the risk.

Be sure to include a SASE, or encourage them to call collect (if you have a
personal 800 number that's good, also)!

Good luck!

Doug Cohen
Lexington, MA

NOTE NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS:
DMC@dmcohen.com

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Don't forget to change your email address for any SIGs to which you subscribe, as well as on JGFF, & the FTJP. To make an address change for your subscription to the U SIG, go to -
http://www.jewishgen.org/listserv/sigs.htm

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Saul" <MSaul@compuserve.com>
Subject: [ukraine] reaching out to family

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please visit the Ukraine SIG web site
<http://www.jewishgen.org/ukraine/>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I need advice about the personal side of genealogy.

I have lists of names, and even addresses, of distant
relatives in America whom I would like to contact. My
grandparents knew their grandparents, my parents
corresponded with their parents, but time has passed
and I don't know them or their adult children.

I would like to make contact, ask about extant documents,
old memories, or traditions. But I don't want to be seen
as invading their privacy.......

Mark Saul
New York, NY

Researching: KAMENIR, RUBENSTEIN: Novograd Volinsky, Zhitomir, Berdichev

LISENCO, KOTANOV: Brailov, Rachni, Mogilev Podolsk
TELISHEVSKY: Gomel', Ekaterinoslav
SOLOMOVITCH/SOLOMOWITZ: Gomel'


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: reaching out to family #ukraine

Doug Cohen <DMCohen@...>
 

Everybody loves to look at family trees. I've been most successful at
contacting unknown and distant relatives when I've mailed them a family
tree, circling their names and my own.

It's giving them something in advance, so they feel they aren't taking all
the risk.

Be sure to include a SASE, or encourage them to call collect (if you have a
personal 800 number that's good, also)!

Good luck!

Doug Cohen
Lexington, MA

NOTE NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS:
DMC@dmcohen.com

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Don't forget to change your email address for any SIGs to which you subscribe, as well as on JGFF, & the FTJP. To make an address change for your subscription to the U SIG, go to -
http://www.jewishgen.org/listserv/sigs.htm

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Saul" <MSaul@compuserve.com>
Subject: [ukraine] reaching out to family

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please visit the Ukraine SIG web site
<http://www.jewishgen.org/ukraine/>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I need advice about the personal side of genealogy.

I have lists of names, and even addresses, of distant
relatives in America whom I would like to contact. My
grandparents knew their grandparents, my parents
corresponded with their parents, but time has passed
and I don't know them or their adult children.

I would like to make contact, ask about extant documents,
old memories, or traditions. But I don't want to be seen
as invading their privacy.......

Mark Saul
New York, NY

Researching: KAMENIR, RUBENSTEIN: Novograd Volinsky, Zhitomir, Berdichev

LISENCO, KOTANOV: Brailov, Rachni, Mogilev Podolsk
TELISHEVSKY: Gomel', Ekaterinoslav
SOLOMOVITCH/SOLOMOWITZ: Gomel'


Re: "Where is Britshewo" #general

NFatouros@...
 

Merav Schetman's message of 11-26-00 asked:

<< Two questions: When the form says Russia, does it mean it or can it be
also Ukraine Bellarus and so forth? We think our family came >from Ukraine,
can someone give us a _definite_ answer to the above name in the Ukraine?.. >>

In Chester G. Cohen's "Shtetl Finder Gazetteer" I found an entry for
"Britcheva" an agricultural center founded in 1839, north west of Odessa. It
was or is located about five kilometers south of the town of Tirnova in
Bessarabia province. There is a Yizkor book for the town "Pinkas Britchiva"
and it has a probably brief entry in the Encyclopedia Judaica.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY, Odessa, Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SHUTZ, SCHUTZ,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;SAS, Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: "Where is Britshewo" #general

NFatouros@...
 

Merav Schetman's message of 11-26-00 asked:

<< Two questions: When the form says Russia, does it mean it or can it be
also Ukraine Bellarus and so forth? We think our family came >from Ukraine,
can someone give us a _definite_ answer to the above name in the Ukraine?.. >>

In Chester G. Cohen's "Shtetl Finder Gazetteer" I found an entry for
"Britcheva" an agricultural center founded in 1839, north west of Odessa. It
was or is located about five kilometers south of the town of Tirnova in
Bessarabia province. There is a Yizkor book for the town "Pinkas Britchiva"
and it has a probably brief entry in the Encyclopedia Judaica.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY, Odessa, Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SHUTZ, SCHUTZ,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;SAS, Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol.


Re: Schneidermuhl (Origin of First name:Mentain, in E Prussia" #general

NFatouros@...
 

In his message of 11-26-00 Vernon Kronenberg asked two questions. Except
for offering a speculative opinion that the first name "Mentain" may be
related to the name "Mendel" I cannot comment on in further,

As for the town of "Schneidermuhl" according to my Columbia-Lippincott
Gazetteer, it was also called "Pila," in Polish. In 1939 it had population
of 45,791 and in 1946, it was only 10,671. About 85 % of the town was
destroyed during WW II. A rail junction and frontier town, it is located
in Poznan province, 50 miles north of Poznan and opposite the town of Ujscie.
It was noted for hemp and linen milling, manufacture of agricultural
machinery, sawmilling, metalworking, and beet sugar refining.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY, Odessa, Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SHUTZ, SCHUTZ,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;SAS, Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Schneidermuhl (Origin of First name:Mentain, in E Prussia" #general

NFatouros@...
 

In his message of 11-26-00 Vernon Kronenberg asked two questions. Except
for offering a speculative opinion that the first name "Mentain" may be
related to the name "Mendel" I cannot comment on in further,

As for the town of "Schneidermuhl" according to my Columbia-Lippincott
Gazetteer, it was also called "Pila," in Polish. In 1939 it had population
of 45,791 and in 1946, it was only 10,671. About 85 % of the town was
destroyed during WW II. A rail junction and frontier town, it is located
in Poznan province, 50 miles north of Poznan and opposite the town of Ujscie.
It was noted for hemp and linen milling, manufacture of agricultural
machinery, sawmilling, metalworking, and beet sugar refining.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY, Odessa, Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SHUTZ, SCHUTZ,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;SAS, Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol.