Date   

Newsletter v On-line #galicia

Robert Fraser <rgfraser@...>
 

Dear Group - As of this date, discounting the emails I may have already
erased; 17 of 34 respondents seem to clearly favour a hard copy version of
GG. But some of
these favoured an online version as well. So it's pretty well a 50/50 split
between the do's and don'ts.

We will eventually be doing much of our correspondence and transactions
through email - many community
groups have done away with hard copy totally. The advantages for quickly
distributing information worldwide are obvious.

I don't currently subscribe to GG, although I have in the past, because I
don't want any more paper coming
into my house, and also because I have found that I can get as much useful
information >from what's already online and >from the discussions as from
reading the GG.


Robert W Fraser
rgfraser@iinet.net.au


[Time to wind this discussion up and get back to Galicia. One more day to
get your ideas on the e-waves, and then this discussion will be closed.
Thanks to everyone who has voiced an opinion. I'm sure those in the
position to make the decisions will take the members' wishes into serious
consideration, that is WHEN we get an editor and IF the Galicianer gets
published -- Moderator on duty]


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Newsletter v On-line #galicia

Robert Fraser <rgfraser@...>
 

Dear Group - As of this date, discounting the emails I may have already
erased; 17 of 34 respondents seem to clearly favour a hard copy version of
GG. But some of
these favoured an online version as well. So it's pretty well a 50/50 split
between the do's and don'ts.

We will eventually be doing much of our correspondence and transactions
through email - many community
groups have done away with hard copy totally. The advantages for quickly
distributing information worldwide are obvious.

I don't currently subscribe to GG, although I have in the past, because I
don't want any more paper coming
into my house, and also because I have found that I can get as much useful
information >from what's already online and >from the discussions as from
reading the GG.


Robert W Fraser
rgfraser@iinet.net.au


[Time to wind this discussion up and get back to Galicia. One more day to
get your ideas on the e-waves, and then this discussion will be closed.
Thanks to everyone who has voiced an opinion. I'm sure those in the
position to make the decisions will take the members' wishes into serious
consideration, that is WHEN we get an editor and IF the Galicianer gets
published -- Moderator on duty]


Toledot #general

dorothy rivers <dotvic@...>
 

Dear fellow researchers;

I have the first twelve editions of Toledot, the Journal of Jewish
Genealogy. They are in prime condition starting with Summer 1977.

Well and good, but what can I do with them? So they have any
value? Would anyone be interested in owning them?

Please let me know your thoughts on this.

Thank you, Dorothy Auerbach R

MODERATOR NOTE: Anyone interested in these editions please contact
Dorothy Auerbach privately. But, perhaps you would consider donating
the Toledot Edition to the JewishGen AuctionHouse where both donor and
those interested will help to support JewishGen financially and enable
us to keep up with the ever growing demand for new programs and projects.
Learn more about it at: http://www.jewishgen.org/auction/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Toledot #general

dorothy rivers <dotvic@...>
 

Dear fellow researchers;

I have the first twelve editions of Toledot, the Journal of Jewish
Genealogy. They are in prime condition starting with Summer 1977.

Well and good, but what can I do with them? So they have any
value? Would anyone be interested in owning them?

Please let me know your thoughts on this.

Thank you, Dorothy Auerbach R

MODERATOR NOTE: Anyone interested in these editions please contact
Dorothy Auerbach privately. But, perhaps you would consider donating
the Toledot Edition to the JewishGen AuctionHouse where both donor and
those interested will help to support JewishGen financially and enable
us to keep up with the ever growing demand for new programs and projects.
Learn more about it at: http://www.jewishgen.org/auction/


Re: On line privacy etc. #galicia

jdaar@...
 

E-mail lists are not and should not be the same thing as bulletin
boards. A posting to a list should only be accessible to people on that
list. It should not be searchable on a web site. If postings to the
list are automatically transferred to the bulletin board,that should be
noted. I would still like to have the emails I sent removed >from the
bulletin board. Can anyone tell me how to do this?

I don't have concerns about the journal because I have never seen it and
don't know what is in it. Written Journals are searchable, but in a
much less accessible way. This makes them less invasive.

I would be interested to know how other people feel about having their
family information immediately available at the click of a Google
button. I was very suprised to see that I no longer have any privacy at
all, not because of postings to this list, but through other
organizations that I belong to.
I do have concerns about this, and I would like to know if this has come
up before.

I did want to hear what other people thought about this.

Leslie Gyi wrote:


Publicly posted emails and bulletin boards are no different than journals.
If you have concerns about the journal, then you should have the SAME
concerns about belonging to the SIG and sending emails like this one.

Leslie Gyi nee FEIG


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: On line privacy etc. #galicia

jdaar@...
 

E-mail lists are not and should not be the same thing as bulletin
boards. A posting to a list should only be accessible to people on that
list. It should not be searchable on a web site. If postings to the
list are automatically transferred to the bulletin board,that should be
noted. I would still like to have the emails I sent removed >from the
bulletin board. Can anyone tell me how to do this?

I don't have concerns about the journal because I have never seen it and
don't know what is in it. Written Journals are searchable, but in a
much less accessible way. This makes them less invasive.

I would be interested to know how other people feel about having their
family information immediately available at the click of a Google
button. I was very suprised to see that I no longer have any privacy at
all, not because of postings to this list, but through other
organizations that I belong to.
I do have concerns about this, and I would like to know if this has come
up before.

I did want to hear what other people thought about this.

Leslie Gyi wrote:


Publicly posted emails and bulletin boards are no different than journals.
If you have concerns about the journal, then you should have the SAME
concerns about belonging to the SIG and sending emails like this one.

Leslie Gyi nee FEIG


Re: On line privacy etc. #galicia

Leslie Gyi <leslie.gyi@...>
 

Publicly posted emails and bulletin boards are no different than journals.
If you have concerns about the journal, then you should have the SAME
concerns about belonging to the SIG and sending emails like this one.

Leslie Gyi nee FEIG

-----Original Message-----
From: jdaar@concentric.net [mailto:jdaar@concentric.net]

Linda Cantor has presented some serious concerns about an online
journal. I myself am not a subscriber to the current journal. I would
like to find out more about it.

One thing I have been concerned about in regard to online sharing of
information is the privacy issue. Once something is online, there is no
stopping the Google robot and other search facilities. Since many
people use mother's maiden names as security codes, I have been
wondering how much information to share at any Web site. I would like
to hear feed back >from people on this issue.

I was also surprised to find that two quick and illiterate
emails that I sent to the SIG are permanently posted on the JewGen
notice board. How do I get those off?

Judith Daar
researching the DAAR/ TAFFET families of Dembitz/Debica.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia RE: On line privacy etc. #galicia

Leslie Gyi <leslie.gyi@...>
 

Publicly posted emails and bulletin boards are no different than journals.
If you have concerns about the journal, then you should have the SAME
concerns about belonging to the SIG and sending emails like this one.

Leslie Gyi nee FEIG

-----Original Message-----
From: jdaar@concentric.net [mailto:jdaar@concentric.net]

Linda Cantor has presented some serious concerns about an online
journal. I myself am not a subscriber to the current journal. I would
like to find out more about it.

One thing I have been concerned about in regard to online sharing of
information is the privacy issue. Once something is online, there is no
stopping the Google robot and other search facilities. Since many
people use mother's maiden names as security codes, I have been
wondering how much information to share at any Web site. I would like
to hear feed back >from people on this issue.

I was also surprised to find that two quick and illiterate
emails that I sent to the SIG are permanently posted on the JewGen
notice board. How do I get those off?

Judith Daar
researching the DAAR/ TAFFET families of Dembitz/Debica.


Re: On line privacy etc. #galicia

Leslie Gyi <leslie.gyi@...>
 

Do not confuse the vehicle with the access. Bulletin Boards can be as
limited or unlimited as email lists depending on the security for access.

Leslie Gyi nee FEIG

-----Original Message-----
From: jdaar@concentric.net [mailto:jdaar@concentric.net]

E-mail lists are not and should not be the same thing as bulletin
boards. A posting to a list should only be accessible to people on that
list. It should not be searchable on a web site. If postings to the
list are automatically transferred to the bulletin board,that should be
noted. I would still like to have the emails I sent removed >from the
bulletin board. Can anyone tell me how to do this?

I don't have concerns about the journal because I have never seen it and
don't know what is in it. Written Journals are searchable, but in a
much less accessible way. This makes them less invasive.

I would be interested to know how other people feel about having their
family information immediately available at the click of a Google
button. I was very suprised to see that I no longer have any privacy at
all, not because of postings to this list, but through other
organizations that I belong to.
I do have concerns about this, and I would like to know if this has come
up before.

I did want to hear what other people thought about this.

Leslie Gyi wrote:

Publicly posted emails and bulletin boards are no different than journals.
If you have concerns about the journal, then you should have the SAME
concerns about belonging to the SIG and sending emails like this one.

Leslie Gyi nee FEIG

-----Original Message-----
From: jdaar@concentric.net [mailto:jdaar@concentric.net]

Linda Cantor has presented some serious concerns about an online
journal. I myself am not a subscriber to the current journal. I would
like to find out more about it.

One thing I have been concerned about in regard to online sharing of
information is the privacy issue. Once something is online, there is no
stopping the Google robot and other search facilities. Since many
people use mother's maiden names as security codes, I have been
wondering how much information to share at any Web site. I would like
to hear feed back >from people on this issue.

I was also surprised to find that two quick and illiterate
emails that I sent to the SIG are permanently posted on the JewGen
notice board. How do I get those off?

Judith Daar
researching the DAAR/ TAFFET families of Dembitz/Debica.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia RE: On line privacy etc. #galicia

Leslie Gyi <leslie.gyi@...>
 

Do not confuse the vehicle with the access. Bulletin Boards can be as
limited or unlimited as email lists depending on the security for access.

Leslie Gyi nee FEIG

-----Original Message-----
From: jdaar@concentric.net [mailto:jdaar@concentric.net]

E-mail lists are not and should not be the same thing as bulletin
boards. A posting to a list should only be accessible to people on that
list. It should not be searchable on a web site. If postings to the
list are automatically transferred to the bulletin board,that should be
noted. I would still like to have the emails I sent removed >from the
bulletin board. Can anyone tell me how to do this?

I don't have concerns about the journal because I have never seen it and
don't know what is in it. Written Journals are searchable, but in a
much less accessible way. This makes them less invasive.

I would be interested to know how other people feel about having their
family information immediately available at the click of a Google
button. I was very suprised to see that I no longer have any privacy at
all, not because of postings to this list, but through other
organizations that I belong to.
I do have concerns about this, and I would like to know if this has come
up before.

I did want to hear what other people thought about this.

Leslie Gyi wrote:

Publicly posted emails and bulletin boards are no different than journals.
If you have concerns about the journal, then you should have the SAME
concerns about belonging to the SIG and sending emails like this one.

Leslie Gyi nee FEIG

-----Original Message-----
From: jdaar@concentric.net [mailto:jdaar@concentric.net]

Linda Cantor has presented some serious concerns about an online
journal. I myself am not a subscriber to the current journal. I would
like to find out more about it.

One thing I have been concerned about in regard to online sharing of
information is the privacy issue. Once something is online, there is no
stopping the Google robot and other search facilities. Since many
people use mother's maiden names as security codes, I have been
wondering how much information to share at any Web site. I would like
to hear feed back >from people on this issue.

I was also surprised to find that two quick and illiterate
emails that I sent to the SIG are permanently posted on the JewGen
notice board. How do I get those off?

Judith Daar
researching the DAAR/ TAFFET families of Dembitz/Debica.


"Drewka, Poland" #general

KTOMJR@...
 

Am trying to locate where Drewka, Poland, would be for someone born there in
1895, Michael TONKOWICZ who later lived in Mercer Co., PA. Have not gathered
all possible data, just taking a chance that someone on this listserv might
steer me to a source or perhaps clarify the spelling >from their own
experiences. This is my brother-in-law's father who died in 1974. Realize
Poland was not a nation then, and has had many boundary changes. The family
gave "Russia" as birthplace in 1920 marriage license and also said they were
from a White Russian area/family. Any guidance would be appreciated.
Ken Thomas, POBox 901, Decatur, GA 30031


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen "Drewka, Poland" #general

KTOMJR@...
 

Am trying to locate where Drewka, Poland, would be for someone born there in
1895, Michael TONKOWICZ who later lived in Mercer Co., PA. Have not gathered
all possible data, just taking a chance that someone on this listserv might
steer me to a source or perhaps clarify the spelling >from their own
experiences. This is my brother-in-law's father who died in 1974. Realize
Poland was not a nation then, and has had many boundary changes. The family
gave "Russia" as birthplace in 1920 marriage license and also said they were
from a White Russian area/family. Any guidance would be appreciated.
Ken Thomas, POBox 901, Decatur, GA 30031


Griby - Grybai #general

rltucson <rltucson@...>
 

Hi Jewishgenners,

Some years ago when I started doing genealogy I took the easy route and
researched my mothers family who were all Germans and many generations in
the US. Worked on my fathers side also but in the US only as all I knew of
my father was he came to the US about 1890 at 18 months old and according to
his WWI draft registration >from Griby, Kovno, Russia that is probably
Lithuania today. This runs contrary to his year older sister's statement
saying they came >from Bialystok, Poland, backed up by other sisters that
were born in Syracuse , NY

If it wasn't true I often wonder what made this scrupulously honest man to
tell the government something his sisters said to the contrary. Also in his
distinctive handwriting he also filled out the registration for a first
cousin and signed his cousins name. My father was really honest and this
cousin, no dummy, became a lawyer later. I know the cousin arrived in the
US later and possibly was weak in English. My father's grand father was
Moses Aram Weisberg. He never came to the US, although his brother Lyons
Weisburg did and adopted the different spelling. Lyons left a $100.00 to
Moses Aram but records in Syracuse do not indicate where it was paid or if
it was. How to write the Weisberg name in either Polish or Lithuaian is
unknown to me. The D-M group number is 747950

I do not have a Shtetl finder nor do I have a large-scale map with
coordinates of northeastern Poland, nearby Russia and Lithuania. Since my
father was so young when he came to the US his father or mother must have
told him Griby [possibly Grybai] to register. When I put this name into the
ShtetlSeeker I come up with 13 possibilities spelled 34 different ways.
Although only one looks good to me, 38.3 miles NE of Vilnius, coordinates
5505-2107, [there are none listed in the Kovnos area- or maybe all
measurements are made >from Vilnius] I don't wish to spend months researching
the wrong town when possibly a better informed genner could be of help.

Also I know nothing about researching Lithuania or Poland and Russia if this
is where the records are kept. Any guidance and hints anyone can impart
would be appreciated. Suggestions on a good book would help and probably
quiet me down.

Thanks. Gates Weisberg

MODERATOR NOTE: You can get a list of all the resources available from
JewishGen by accessing our home page at http://www.jewishgen.org

Under the heading LEARN you will find Warren Blatt's FAQ (Frequently Asked
Questions) and Infofiles.

Under the heading DISCUSSION GROUPS you will find Special Interest Group
(SIG) Mailing Lists - some of them cover the areas you are researching


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Griby - Grybai #general

rltucson <rltucson@...>
 

Hi Jewishgenners,

Some years ago when I started doing genealogy I took the easy route and
researched my mothers family who were all Germans and many generations in
the US. Worked on my fathers side also but in the US only as all I knew of
my father was he came to the US about 1890 at 18 months old and according to
his WWI draft registration >from Griby, Kovno, Russia that is probably
Lithuania today. This runs contrary to his year older sister's statement
saying they came >from Bialystok, Poland, backed up by other sisters that
were born in Syracuse , NY

If it wasn't true I often wonder what made this scrupulously honest man to
tell the government something his sisters said to the contrary. Also in his
distinctive handwriting he also filled out the registration for a first
cousin and signed his cousins name. My father was really honest and this
cousin, no dummy, became a lawyer later. I know the cousin arrived in the
US later and possibly was weak in English. My father's grand father was
Moses Aram Weisberg. He never came to the US, although his brother Lyons
Weisburg did and adopted the different spelling. Lyons left a $100.00 to
Moses Aram but records in Syracuse do not indicate where it was paid or if
it was. How to write the Weisberg name in either Polish or Lithuaian is
unknown to me. The D-M group number is 747950

I do not have a Shtetl finder nor do I have a large-scale map with
coordinates of northeastern Poland, nearby Russia and Lithuania. Since my
father was so young when he came to the US his father or mother must have
told him Griby [possibly Grybai] to register. When I put this name into the
ShtetlSeeker I come up with 13 possibilities spelled 34 different ways.
Although only one looks good to me, 38.3 miles NE of Vilnius, coordinates
5505-2107, [there are none listed in the Kovnos area- or maybe all
measurements are made >from Vilnius] I don't wish to spend months researching
the wrong town when possibly a better informed genner could be of help.

Also I know nothing about researching Lithuania or Poland and Russia if this
is where the records are kept. Any guidance and hints anyone can impart
would be appreciated. Suggestions on a good book would help and probably
quiet me down.

Thanks. Gates Weisberg

MODERATOR NOTE: You can get a list of all the resources available from
JewishGen by accessing our home page at http://www.jewishgen.org

Under the heading LEARN you will find Warren Blatt's FAQ (Frequently Asked
Questions) and Infofiles.

Under the heading DISCUSSION GROUPS you will find Special Interest Group
(SIG) Mailing Lists - some of them cover the areas you are researching


Re: Pre 1842 Richmond, VA -- Jewish families #usa

L.M. Berkowitz
 

"The Occident" began publishing in 1843. This is past your cutoff date, but
the editor, Isaac Leeser, lived in Richmond >from the time of his arrival in
America in 1824 to 1834. His uncle, Zalma Rehine, was a businessman in
Richmond. For more info, check the early volumes of "The Occident" at:
http://www.jewish-history.com/Occident/index.html

Another good source is the Ezekiel/Lichtenstein book, "The History of the
Jews of Richmond >from 1769 to 1917". If you have trouble locating a copy of
this book, contact me privately.

===========================================
L.M. Berkowitz "Jewish-American History on the Web"
lmb@jewish-history.com
http://www.jewish-history.com/

From: Ronald R Seagrave [mailto:seagraver@kirklands.org]
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 2:47 PM
To: Early American SIG
Subject: Re: Pre 1842 Richmond, VA -- Jewish families

Would welcome any information on pre-1842 Jewish families living in
Richmond, VA. Especially those that held or employed slaves.


Early American SIG #USA RE: Pre 1842 Richmond, VA -- Jewish families #usa

L.M. Berkowitz
 

"The Occident" began publishing in 1843. This is past your cutoff date, but
the editor, Isaac Leeser, lived in Richmond >from the time of his arrival in
America in 1824 to 1834. His uncle, Zalma Rehine, was a businessman in
Richmond. For more info, check the early volumes of "The Occident" at:
http://www.jewish-history.com/Occident/index.html

Another good source is the Ezekiel/Lichtenstein book, "The History of the
Jews of Richmond >from 1769 to 1917". If you have trouble locating a copy of
this book, contact me privately.

===========================================
L.M. Berkowitz "Jewish-American History on the Web"
lmb@jewish-history.com
http://www.jewish-history.com/

From: Ronald R Seagrave [mailto:seagraver@kirklands.org]
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 2:47 PM
To: Early American SIG
Subject: Re: Pre 1842 Richmond, VA -- Jewish families

Would welcome any information on pre-1842 Jewish families living in
Richmond, VA. Especially those that held or employed slaves.


Maps of Ukraine--and more #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

I am constantly in search of good maps of the world,
especially Ukraine. I find these to be of great value:

for Ukraine---
http://www.calle.com/world/ukraine/

for the rest of the world---
http://www.calle.com/world/

I hope you find these maps useful.

Dan

Daniel Kazez < dkazez@mail.wittenberg.edu >
Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland: TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK
Ukraine: OBERMAN-HOBERMAN-GUBERMAN, LISS, SOBLE-SOBEL, STEIN, AXMAN
Turkey: KAZEZ-KAZES, FRESKO-FRESCO, ALHADEF-ELHADEF
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/fam/ent/fam.html


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Maps of Ukraine--and more #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

I am constantly in search of good maps of the world,
especially Ukraine. I find these to be of great value:

for Ukraine---
http://www.calle.com/world/ukraine/

for the rest of the world---
http://www.calle.com/world/

I hope you find these maps useful.

Dan

Daniel Kazez < dkazez@mail.wittenberg.edu >
Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland: TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK
Ukraine: OBERMAN-HOBERMAN-GUBERMAN, LISS, SOBLE-SOBEL, STEIN, AXMAN
Turkey: KAZEZ-KAZES, FRESKO-FRESCO, ALHADEF-ELHADEF
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/fam/ent/fam.html


VOSKOBOYNICK, GLAD - Tulchin connections #general

zerakodesh@...
 

Hello

I have in my possession a picture of Edis VOSKOBOYNICK or some similar
spelling this is the great grandmother of Norma GLAD

There are several othe people on the Tulchin list who are looking for
people with that name. Many of these families have gone to South America.

My interest is in the town of Tulchin. I thought it would be nice to
help connect all these people.
Sholom
Esther Feinstein Sackheim
ZeraKodesh@aol.com


Marriage Record Dates #poland

Jeff Goulden <GouldenJ@...>
 

Can anyone tell me why Polish marriage records have two dates? The record I
am researching has the marriage date as January 2nd/14th, in the year 1859.

Thanks

Jeff Goulden

Goulden and Associates
Work: (253) 222-3265
Fax: (801) 383-9676
Home: (253) 863-3265
Email: GouldenJ@halcyon.com
WWW: http://www.halcyon.com/gouldenj/