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Search for descendants of THAL family from Riga #general

Ora Leshem <kwanini@...>
 

Sara-Ete aka Ethel, born 1854 (daughter of Samuel & Gruna HIRSCHFELD), and Leib
THAL, born 1852 (son of Abraham Thal) were married in RIGA, Latvia in 1875. They
immigrated to the USA in approximately 1892 with six of their children: Abraham-
Iztig THAL, born 1876; Basse-Rivka, born 1879; Hinda born 1882; GITE born 1884;
Dora born 1889; and Roche-Henne born 1890. One son Hirsch THAL, born 1877
immigrated with his grandparents to Palestine (Eretz Israel) in 1890, and later
joined the family in the USA. Another son Eiser TAL, born 1883, died a year later
in Riga.

As a direct descendent on the HIRSHFELD side, any information about descendents of
any of the above will be very welcome, in order to complete a family tree. Many
thanks in advance. Ora Hirshfeld. e-mail: kwanini@internet-zahav.net


Re: Questions about Certificate of Arrival #general

Joy Rich <joyrichny@...>
 

Jeanne, GTR stands for "Grand Trunk Railway".
See the Library and Archives Canada web page at
< http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/trains/h30-2070-e.html#c >.

Joy Rich
Brooklyn, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Search for descendants of THAL family from Riga #general

Ora Leshem <kwanini@...>
 

Sara-Ete aka Ethel, born 1854 (daughter of Samuel & Gruna HIRSCHFELD), and Leib
THAL, born 1852 (son of Abraham Thal) were married in RIGA, Latvia in 1875. They
immigrated to the USA in approximately 1892 with six of their children: Abraham-
Iztig THAL, born 1876; Basse-Rivka, born 1879; Hinda born 1882; GITE born 1884;
Dora born 1889; and Roche-Henne born 1890. One son Hirsch THAL, born 1877
immigrated with his grandparents to Palestine (Eretz Israel) in 1890, and later
joined the family in the USA. Another son Eiser TAL, born 1883, died a year later
in Riga.

As a direct descendent on the HIRSHFELD side, any information about descendents of
any of the above will be very welcome, in order to complete a family tree. Many
thanks in advance. Ora Hirshfeld. e-mail: kwanini@internet-zahav.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Questions about Certificate of Arrival #general

Joy Rich <joyrichny@...>
 

Jeanne, GTR stands for "Grand Trunk Railway".
See the Library and Archives Canada web page at
< http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/trains/h30-2070-e.html#c >.

Joy Rich
Brooklyn, NY


Information And Death Date For Sophie/Sonia FLEISCHER-Bronx-NY #general

sacredsisters3@aol.com <sacredsisters3@...>
 

Hello All

I am looking for any and all information on a Sophie/Sonia FLEISCHER. She was born
about 1892 in russia and came to America about 1907-1912. She was married to a
Louis Fleischer who was a photographer and had his own business/photo studio most
likely. They lived in Brooklyn on the 1920 census, but then moved to the Bronx by
1928. I would love any and all information on her including her death date.

I am trying to determine if her maiden name was FAIKES to tie her into my Faikes
research. So, if anyone out there can help me I would appreciate it. I am uncertain
if she got married here or in russia. I believe she got married here for she would
have been young when she immigrated here. According to the 1930 census they had
three children, Martha, Helen & Jerome.

If I am able to get the death date, I can then order the record and determine if
her maiden was really Faikes.

Sarah Greenberg(USA-CT)
sacredsisters3@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Information And Death Date For Sophie/Sonia FLEISCHER-Bronx-NY #general

sacredsisters3@aol.com <sacredsisters3@...>
 

Hello All

I am looking for any and all information on a Sophie/Sonia FLEISCHER. She was born
about 1892 in russia and came to America about 1907-1912. She was married to a
Louis Fleischer who was a photographer and had his own business/photo studio most
likely. They lived in Brooklyn on the 1920 census, but then moved to the Bronx by
1928. I would love any and all information on her including her death date.

I am trying to determine if her maiden name was FAIKES to tie her into my Faikes
research. So, if anyone out there can help me I would appreciate it. I am uncertain
if she got married here or in russia. I believe she got married here for she would
have been young when she immigrated here. According to the 1930 census they had
three children, Martha, Helen & Jerome.

If I am able to get the death date, I can then order the record and determine if
her maiden was really Faikes.

Sarah Greenberg(USA-CT)
sacredsisters3@aol.com


Re: Help with Hebrew names, please #general

Zev Griner <zgriner@...>
 

So, using the transliteration site on Steve Morse's site along with the name
database, you can likely identify "pay-yod-yod-zayin-zayin-yud" as Peysach.
Of course, these sites are useful when you can read the Hebrew letters.
You did an excellent job on the names. The last one, pay-yod-yod-zayin-zayin-yud-
shin, was misread. If you substitute vavs for the zayins, you get the Yiddish name
of Feivish.

Zev Griner
GRINER,PANCER,ZAJDEL,BAUM/BOJM,SAVARICK,LAPERDON


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Help with Hebrew names, please #general

Zev Griner <zgriner@...>
 

So, using the transliteration site on Steve Morse's site along with the name
database, you can likely identify "pay-yod-yod-zayin-zayin-yud" as Peysach.
Of course, these sites are useful when you can read the Hebrew letters.
You did an excellent job on the names. The last one, pay-yod-yod-zayin-zayin-yud-
shin, was misread. If you substitute vavs for the zayins, you get the Yiddish name
of Feivish.

Zev Griner
GRINER,PANCER,ZAJDEL,BAUM/BOJM,SAVARICK,LAPERDON


Re: Name "Menie" - male? female? abbreviation? #general

Rosalind
 

Our friend Menahem is Mennie to some.
Ros

"Yehudh bn Shlmo" <ybs1207@yahoo.com> wrote:
Name "Menie" - male? female? abbreviation?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Name "Menie" - male? female? abbreviation? #general

Rosalind
 

Our friend Menahem is Mennie to some.
Ros

"Yehudh bn Shlmo" <ybs1207@yahoo.com> wrote:
Name "Menie" - male? female? abbreviation?


Rehovot Israel cemetery picture help request #general

Ivan Greenhut <igreenhut@...>
 

Is there someone living in Rehovot Israel who would be able to go to the cemetery
and take digital pictures of my Uncle's grave?

Contact privately and I will furnish information. I will be most happy to pay for
any cost incurred.

Dr. Ivan Greenhut
Summerville, SC
USA
igreenhut@sc.rr.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rehovot Israel cemetery picture help request #general

Ivan Greenhut <igreenhut@...>
 

Is there someone living in Rehovot Israel who would be able to go to the cemetery
and take digital pictures of my Uncle's grave?

Contact privately and I will furnish information. I will be most happy to pay for
any cost incurred.

Dr. Ivan Greenhut
Summerville, SC
USA
igreenhut@sc.rr.com


NOWY SANCZ help #poland

Lazare Berneman <lazare.berneman@...>
 

Hello to all of you

Who can help me ?

I am looking for details and pictures about the house of my mother in law :

The adress is :

Jagiellonskje L48
Nowy Sancz

I found 1 picture, black and white very old and very dark : on the house
there are inscriptions :
Wielobranzowy Ubiory Przemystowe

Thank you
Regards
Lazare Berneman
Antwerp Belgium ( via Kozienice )

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


JRI Poland #Poland NOWY SANCZ help #poland

Lazare Berneman <lazare.berneman@...>
 

Hello to all of you

Who can help me ?

I am looking for details and pictures about the house of my mother in law :

The adress is :

Jagiellonskje L48
Nowy Sancz

I found 1 picture, black and white very old and very dark : on the house
there are inscriptions :
Wielobranzowy Ubiory Przemystowe

Thank you
Regards
Lazare Berneman
Antwerp Belgium ( via Kozienice )

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


Tarnopol Records #galicia

Richard Cooper <ricooper@...>
 

I have now completed my research on the three microfilms of
Ternopil records recently released by the LDS (Mormons). I list
each piece heading below and hope Tarnopol/Ternopil area
researchers will find it useful.

There are many gaps in the records: I could not find the births of
my ADLER and FINKELSTEIN great- and great-great-grandparents, even
though I have it >from multiple sources that they were born there.
The great find, though, is the 1890 Census on Roll 2405432. These
are as rare as hen's teeth for 19th-century Galicia.

Again, I must warn that there are gaps: there are only about 7,000
entries, and the Jewish population of Tarnopol in 1900 was estimated
at 13,000. The census only takes in houses 450 to 2309; those like
my FINKELSTEIN ancestors who had substantial houses in the town
centre will be absent. My guess is that most Jews lived in the
poorer outskirts, which is why the census (of Jews only) started at
house 450.

Roll 2405430
1: Stryy: Deaths 1864-76
2: Strusiv: Births 1837-70
3: Strusiv: Deaths 1837-70
4: Strusiv: Marriages 1853-70
5: Suchostav: Marriages 1814-75
6: Suchostav: Births 1814-76
7: Suchostav: Deaths 1814-76
8: Tartakiv: Births 1815-56
9: Ternopil: Alphabetical Index to the Register of Births in the
Jewish Community 1924
10: Ternopil: Alphabetical Index to the Register of Births in the
Jewish Community 1927
11: Ternopil: Births, Marriages and Deaths 1816-20
12: Ternopil: Births, Marriages and Deaths 1820-34
13: Ternopil: Deaths 1845-54
14: Ternopil: Births 1852-7
15: Ternopil: Marriages 1853-8
16: Ternopil: Deaths 1854-7
17: Ternopil: Deaths 1858-63
18: Ternopil: Births 1858-65 (in fact to 25 July 1863)

Roll 2405431
1: Ternopil: Births 1858-65 (in fact June 1863 to Dec 1865)
2: Ternopil: Deaths 1864-9
3: Ternopil: Deaths 1877 - 1942 (in fact 1877-8 and 1941-2)
4: Ternopil: Births 1900
5: Ternopil: Marriages 1923
6: Ternopil: Deaths 1926, 1929
7: Ternopil: Deaths 1929
8: Ternopil: Deaths 1930
9: Ternopil: Deaths 1930
10: Ternopil: Marriages 1931
11: Ternopil: Marriages 1931
12: Ternopil: Deaths 1931
13: Ternopil: Marriages 1932
14: Ternopil: Marriages 1932

Roll 2405432
1: Ternopil: Marriages 1932
2: Ternopil: Marriages 1933
3: Ternopil: Marriages 1934
4: Ternopil: Marriages 1934
5: Ternopil: Marriages 1935
6: Ternopil: Marriages 1935
7: Ternopil: Marriages 1936
8: Ternopil: Marriages 1938
9: Ternopil: Marriages 1939
10: Ternopil: Marriages 1939-42
11: Ternopil: Census of Jewish Town-Dwellers in 1890
12: Ternopil Voivode (Region): Births, Marriages and Deaths
1833-1913, 1896-1937, 1886-9
13: Tychyn: Deaths: 1792-1876

Richard A. Cooper (NB: not related to any COOPERs!)
Gosport, UK
ADLER, FINKELSTEIN & ZILZ >from Tarnopol
LEWINSTEIN >from Berdichev
LEZTER, RINENBERG, EISEN & SALENDER >from Rzeszow & Kolbuszowa
MILLET & ENGELBERG >from Tarnow, Dabrowa Tarnowska & Lezajsk
YAROSHEVSKY & SHAPOCHNIKOW >from Odessa
BORENSTEIN, MATELEVITCH and GODZINSKIJ >from Warsaw


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Tarnopol Records #galicia

Richard Cooper <ricooper@...>
 

I have now completed my research on the three microfilms of
Ternopil records recently released by the LDS (Mormons). I list
each piece heading below and hope Tarnopol/Ternopil area
researchers will find it useful.

There are many gaps in the records: I could not find the births of
my ADLER and FINKELSTEIN great- and great-great-grandparents, even
though I have it >from multiple sources that they were born there.
The great find, though, is the 1890 Census on Roll 2405432. These
are as rare as hen's teeth for 19th-century Galicia.

Again, I must warn that there are gaps: there are only about 7,000
entries, and the Jewish population of Tarnopol in 1900 was estimated
at 13,000. The census only takes in houses 450 to 2309; those like
my FINKELSTEIN ancestors who had substantial houses in the town
centre will be absent. My guess is that most Jews lived in the
poorer outskirts, which is why the census (of Jews only) started at
house 450.

Roll 2405430
1: Stryy: Deaths 1864-76
2: Strusiv: Births 1837-70
3: Strusiv: Deaths 1837-70
4: Strusiv: Marriages 1853-70
5: Suchostav: Marriages 1814-75
6: Suchostav: Births 1814-76
7: Suchostav: Deaths 1814-76
8: Tartakiv: Births 1815-56
9: Ternopil: Alphabetical Index to the Register of Births in the
Jewish Community 1924
10: Ternopil: Alphabetical Index to the Register of Births in the
Jewish Community 1927
11: Ternopil: Births, Marriages and Deaths 1816-20
12: Ternopil: Births, Marriages and Deaths 1820-34
13: Ternopil: Deaths 1845-54
14: Ternopil: Births 1852-7
15: Ternopil: Marriages 1853-8
16: Ternopil: Deaths 1854-7
17: Ternopil: Deaths 1858-63
18: Ternopil: Births 1858-65 (in fact to 25 July 1863)

Roll 2405431
1: Ternopil: Births 1858-65 (in fact June 1863 to Dec 1865)
2: Ternopil: Deaths 1864-9
3: Ternopil: Deaths 1877 - 1942 (in fact 1877-8 and 1941-2)
4: Ternopil: Births 1900
5: Ternopil: Marriages 1923
6: Ternopil: Deaths 1926, 1929
7: Ternopil: Deaths 1929
8: Ternopil: Deaths 1930
9: Ternopil: Deaths 1930
10: Ternopil: Marriages 1931
11: Ternopil: Marriages 1931
12: Ternopil: Deaths 1931
13: Ternopil: Marriages 1932
14: Ternopil: Marriages 1932

Roll 2405432
1: Ternopil: Marriages 1932
2: Ternopil: Marriages 1933
3: Ternopil: Marriages 1934
4: Ternopil: Marriages 1934
5: Ternopil: Marriages 1935
6: Ternopil: Marriages 1935
7: Ternopil: Marriages 1936
8: Ternopil: Marriages 1938
9: Ternopil: Marriages 1939
10: Ternopil: Marriages 1939-42
11: Ternopil: Census of Jewish Town-Dwellers in 1890
12: Ternopil Voivode (Region): Births, Marriages and Deaths
1833-1913, 1896-1937, 1886-9
13: Tychyn: Deaths: 1792-1876

Richard A. Cooper (NB: not related to any COOPERs!)
Gosport, UK
ADLER, FINKELSTEIN & ZILZ >from Tarnopol
LEWINSTEIN >from Berdichev
LEZTER, RINENBERG, EISEN & SALENDER >from Rzeszow & Kolbuszowa
MILLET & ENGELBERG >from Tarnow, Dabrowa Tarnowska & Lezajsk
YAROSHEVSKY & SHAPOCHNIKOW >from Odessa
BORENSTEIN, MATELEVITCH and GODZINSKIJ >from Warsaw


The MONTEL and EZDRA families from Marseille etc. #france

Mathilde Tagger <tagger@...>
 

Dear all,

May be some of you are interested in the MONTEL and EZRA family history. The
family has its origins in the Comtat Venaissin.
One of the fathers invented a machine for a faster production the famous
cube soap "Savon de Marseille".
The family story is now published in the new issue of Sharsheret Hadorot,
Vol.21, No.4, November 2007, the quarterly bilingual (English-Hebrew) review
of the Israel Genealogical Society.

Another article in that issue that can be of interest of some of you is:
Military genealogy: Algerian Jews who serving in the French army.

One can see the whole contents of that issue at:
http://www.isragen.org.il/NROS/BIB/SHD/SH-21-4-E.html
The cumulative index of all the first 20 volumes is at:
http://www.isragen.org.il/ROS/ARTICLES/SH-index.html

Shalom,
Mathilde Tagger

Jerusalem


French SIG #France The MONTEL and EZDRA families from Marseille etc. #france

Mathilde Tagger <tagger@...>
 

Dear all,

May be some of you are interested in the MONTEL and EZRA family history. The
family has its origins in the Comtat Venaissin.
One of the fathers invented a machine for a faster production the famous
cube soap "Savon de Marseille".
The family story is now published in the new issue of Sharsheret Hadorot,
Vol.21, No.4, November 2007, the quarterly bilingual (English-Hebrew) review
of the Israel Genealogical Society.

Another article in that issue that can be of interest of some of you is:
Military genealogy: Algerian Jews who serving in the French army.

One can see the whole contents of that issue at:
http://www.isragen.org.il/NROS/BIB/SHD/SH-21-4-E.html
The cumulative index of all the first 20 volumes is at:
http://www.isragen.org.il/ROS/ARTICLES/SH-index.html

Shalom,
Mathilde Tagger

Jerusalem


Re: Thuringen and Prussian vital records #germany

Roger Lustig
 

[Going to the list because the question often comes up]

For anything after 1875 that's now in Germany you simply write to the
town's registry office (Standesamt). Note that they're very strict about
access--descendants only. This may be liberalized somewhat in the future.

German Standesamt records for places now in Poland are held at:
--Polish State Archives if 100+ years old;
--Local registry offices in Poland if more recent;
--Standesamt I in Berlin if a copy made it to the west. (These records
were kept in duplicate.)

Before 1875: for Thuringia and Saxony, if they're not filmed, check
Stefi Jersch-Wenzel, ed. _Quellen zur Geschichte der Juden in den
Archiven der neuen Bundeslaender_ (see message archives for pub. info).
For Gnesen/Gniezno, Poland, see JRI-Poland for 1840-7; see Jersch-Wenzel
for other sources. (My notes indicate material of potential interest in
the Gniezno branch of the Polish State Archives.)

To get copies of LDS records without going to the FHC, hire someone to
do it for you. The post-1874 civil registers require some time and
effort, because the Jewish population of most places in Germany was only
a small percentage of the whole. The FHL in Salt Lake and FHCs
elsewhere are staffed by volunteers to a large extent, and their role is
limited to helping you find what you're looking for.

Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ USA Research co-ordinator, GerSIG

Sharon G. Broniatowski MD Cleveland, OH, USA sgrundbron@prodigy.net wrote:

Does anyone know where I can write to obtain vital records >from
Barcheld an der Werra (Sachs Meiningen,Thuringen) and Schwarza
(formerly Kreis Schleusingen, Sachsen and Prussia)?
I am interested in birth and death records >from the 1800s. I am also looking
for records >from Gnesen, Prussia (now Gniezno, Poland). Is there a way
to get copies of records >from the LDS without actually going to one of
the family history centers? Thanks for your private reply.


German SIG #Germany Re: Thuringen and Prussian vital records #germany

Roger Lustig
 

[Going to the list because the question often comes up]

For anything after 1875 that's now in Germany you simply write to the
town's registry office (Standesamt). Note that they're very strict about
access--descendants only. This may be liberalized somewhat in the future.

German Standesamt records for places now in Poland are held at:
--Polish State Archives if 100+ years old;
--Local registry offices in Poland if more recent;
--Standesamt I in Berlin if a copy made it to the west. (These records
were kept in duplicate.)

Before 1875: for Thuringia and Saxony, if they're not filmed, check
Stefi Jersch-Wenzel, ed. _Quellen zur Geschichte der Juden in den
Archiven der neuen Bundeslaender_ (see message archives for pub. info).
For Gnesen/Gniezno, Poland, see JRI-Poland for 1840-7; see Jersch-Wenzel
for other sources. (My notes indicate material of potential interest in
the Gniezno branch of the Polish State Archives.)

To get copies of LDS records without going to the FHC, hire someone to
do it for you. The post-1874 civil registers require some time and
effort, because the Jewish population of most places in Germany was only
a small percentage of the whole. The FHL in Salt Lake and FHCs
elsewhere are staffed by volunteers to a large extent, and their role is
limited to helping you find what you're looking for.

Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ USA Research co-ordinator, GerSIG

Sharon G. Broniatowski MD Cleveland, OH, USA sgrundbron@prodigy.net wrote:

Does anyone know where I can write to obtain vital records >from
Barcheld an der Werra (Sachs Meiningen,Thuringen) and Schwarza
(formerly Kreis Schleusingen, Sachsen and Prussia)?
I am interested in birth and death records >from the 1800s. I am also looking
for records >from Gnesen, Prussia (now Gniezno, Poland). Is there a way
to get copies of records >from the LDS without actually going to one of
the family history centers? Thanks for your private reply.