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obtaining records from Bronx Surrogate Court #general

Howard Zakai
 

Genners,
Would anyone happen to know if it is possible to write to the Bronx
County Surrogate's Court in order to obtain a record >from long ago? I
have a picture of my great-grandfather and his siblings >from around 1920
and on the back is stamped Bronx Cty Surrogate Court. I was wondering if
any records >from this would still be archived/filed so I could possibly
learn the specifics. I am assuming it was 1920 - the year when both of
their parents died (I guess without a will), but perhaps there is some
info. I could use.
Thanks in advance
Howie Zakai
Staten Island


Re: LDS Online Catalogue #general

debjkay <debjkay@...>
 

Try to search by author, US Immigration and Naturalization Service, or
Immigration and Naturalization as key words

Debra Kay
debjkay@msn.com
Simi Valley, CA

Am I the only one who is having trouble figuring out
the LDS Family History Online Catalogue?

http://www.familysearch.org/Search/searchcatalog.asp

I am trying to find microfilms for:

Index to Passports
(USA, 1910-1930)

Can anyone help with this? I don't see how to search
by title, subject, etc.

Dan


Re: "El" as given name for a male? #general

ROBERT WEISS
 

Lynne Shapiro writes:


I have a copy of a record of birth and circumcision >from the archives in
Odessa. According to two different translators, it shows the name of the
child's father as, in English, "El Gdalovich UMANSKY". I assume
Gdalovich is a patronymic. (My great-grandfather, Nachum UMANSKY,
referred, in a translated letter I have, to "Uncle Gedalia".) What kind
of name is "El"? Is it an abbreviation for a longer name? Or does it
have some other meaning? >>
Consider the possibility that the transliteration is faulty, and that
that it should read "Elye" instead of "El". There are symbols in the
Cyrillic Russian alphabet that have the sound "ye" "yu" "ya" in English.
Some of these characters were eliminated >from the Russian alphabet in the
1918 spelling reforms, but would be found in records prior to that date.
I would take a copy of the original Russian-language record to a Russian
language expert and ask for a character-by-character transliteration of
the name.

But the name "El" is also found in Russian areas. The name Il'ya is a
common diminutive of the Hebrew name Eliyahu. It has many variants common
in Russian areas such as Eliash, El, El'yu, Elya, Elia, Il'ya, Ilya, etc.
For more information consult "Russian-Jewish Given Names- Their Origins
and Variants" by Boris Feldblyum, Avotaynu, 1998

Robert Weiss in Northridge, CA
RWeissJGS@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen obtaining records from Bronx Surrogate Court #general

Howard Zakai
 

Genners,
Would anyone happen to know if it is possible to write to the Bronx
County Surrogate's Court in order to obtain a record >from long ago? I
have a picture of my great-grandfather and his siblings >from around 1920
and on the back is stamped Bronx Cty Surrogate Court. I was wondering if
any records >from this would still be archived/filed so I could possibly
learn the specifics. I am assuming it was 1920 - the year when both of
their parents died (I guess without a will), but perhaps there is some
info. I could use.
Thanks in advance
Howie Zakai
Staten Island


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: LDS Online Catalogue #general

debjkay <debjkay@...>
 

Try to search by author, US Immigration and Naturalization Service, or
Immigration and Naturalization as key words

Debra Kay
debjkay@msn.com
Simi Valley, CA

Am I the only one who is having trouble figuring out
the LDS Family History Online Catalogue?

http://www.familysearch.org/Search/searchcatalog.asp

I am trying to find microfilms for:

Index to Passports
(USA, 1910-1930)

Can anyone help with this? I don't see how to search
by title, subject, etc.

Dan


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re:"El" as given name for a male? #general

ROBERT WEISS
 

Lynne Shapiro writes:


I have a copy of a record of birth and circumcision >from the archives in
Odessa. According to two different translators, it shows the name of the
child's father as, in English, "El Gdalovich UMANSKY". I assume
Gdalovich is a patronymic. (My great-grandfather, Nachum UMANSKY,
referred, in a translated letter I have, to "Uncle Gedalia".) What kind
of name is "El"? Is it an abbreviation for a longer name? Or does it
have some other meaning? >>
Consider the possibility that the transliteration is faulty, and that
that it should read "Elye" instead of "El". There are symbols in the
Cyrillic Russian alphabet that have the sound "ye" "yu" "ya" in English.
Some of these characters were eliminated >from the Russian alphabet in the
1918 spelling reforms, but would be found in records prior to that date.
I would take a copy of the original Russian-language record to a Russian
language expert and ask for a character-by-character transliteration of
the name.

But the name "El" is also found in Russian areas. The name Il'ya is a
common diminutive of the Hebrew name Eliyahu. It has many variants common
in Russian areas such as Eliash, El, El'yu, Elya, Elia, Il'ya, Ilya, etc.
For more information consult "Russian-Jewish Given Names- Their Origins
and Variants" by Boris Feldblyum, Avotaynu, 1998

Robert Weiss in Northridge, CA
RWeissJGS@aol.com


Reminder - JGS (NY) meeting - Sunday, March 18, 2001 #general

Jgsny@...
 

Genomic Views of Jewish History - Sunday, March 18, 2001

Have you ever wondered how well 5000 years of recorded history could
be preserved in the genetic record? Dr. Harry Ostrer, Director, Human
Genetics Program, New York University School of Medicine, will describe
his recent work to understand the historical migrations of Jewish
peoples. For information about this study and how you can participate,
come join us at the Center for Jewish History, 15 West 16th Street, NYC,
at 2:00 pm.

For more information about this study, see
www.med.nyu.edu/genetics/jewishorigins.html

Remember to bring your membership cards.
See you Sunday!

Best Regards,
Estelle Guzik
JGS (NY)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Reminder - JGS (NY) meeting - Sunday, March 18, 2001 #general

Jgsny@...
 

Genomic Views of Jewish History - Sunday, March 18, 2001

Have you ever wondered how well 5000 years of recorded history could
be preserved in the genetic record? Dr. Harry Ostrer, Director, Human
Genetics Program, New York University School of Medicine, will describe
his recent work to understand the historical migrations of Jewish
peoples. For information about this study and how you can participate,
come join us at the Center for Jewish History, 15 West 16th Street, NYC,
at 2:00 pm.

For more information about this study, see
www.med.nyu.edu/genetics/jewishorigins.html

Remember to bring your membership cards.
See you Sunday!

Best Regards,
Estelle Guzik
JGS (NY)


Jewish Orpahnages in San Francisco #general

Eric Wickberg <ericw@...>
 

I've been told that my grandmother was sent by her parents to an
orphanage for a few years when she and her sisters were young (I suspect
between 10 and 15 years of age) Dhe was born in 1905 so I exepct it would
have been in thed1915 to 1920 range. The orphanage they lived in was a
Jewish one named either "Edgewood" or "Edgeware" and was a cottage style
home with house parents looking after the children. I don't know where
the orphange was located but the family had a small store located near the
original Levi Strauss Pants factory in San Francisco. Has anyone heard of
this orphange or can point me in the right direction

Eric


Taville Family. #general

Rosalind Romem <rromem@...>
 

Can anyone help me find the Taville family of Cape Town, Belle , children
Candy and Winton.

Thank you, Rosalind Romem.
rromem@netcom.ca.

MODERATOR NOTE: Please send personal information regarding
the Tavilles privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish Orpahnages in San Francisco #general

Eric Wickberg <ericw@...>
 

I've been told that my grandmother was sent by her parents to an
orphanage for a few years when she and her sisters were young (I suspect
between 10 and 15 years of age) Dhe was born in 1905 so I exepct it would
have been in thed1915 to 1920 range. The orphanage they lived in was a
Jewish one named either "Edgewood" or "Edgeware" and was a cottage style
home with house parents looking after the children. I don't know where
the orphange was located but the family had a small store located near the
original Levi Strauss Pants factory in San Francisco. Has anyone heard of
this orphange or can point me in the right direction

Eric


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Taville Family. #general

Rosalind Romem <rromem@...>
 

Can anyone help me find the Taville family of Cape Town, Belle , children
Candy and Winton.

Thank you, Rosalind Romem.
rromem@netcom.ca.

MODERATOR NOTE: Please send personal information regarding
the Tavilles privately.


Forman/Foreman #general

Peter Bush
 

I have been trying to locate my Grandfather's family without success.

His sister was called Seral or Tseral Foreman/Forman and about 1908 she
lived at 77 Jackson Avenue, The Bronx. She had arrived in New York in the
early 1900's >from Kowal in Poland.

She had three sons, I do not know their names.

I wrote to all the Forman's in the Bronx, without any success, has anyone
any ideas.

Peter Bush


Re: SONNENSCHEIN - desperately seeking for roots of my family #general

Arnold Davidson <arnoldbd@...>
 

Claudia,

I would be very surprised if I was the only, or even the first, to respond
to your message. I call your attention to a recent movie about a
Sonnenschein family, some of whose members converted to Christianity.
I leave it to you or others to find out if you are related to that family.

The movie was called (in various countries):
Napfeny Ize, A (2000) (Hungary)
Sunshine - Ein Hauch von Sonnenschein (2000) (Germany)
Taste of Sunshine, The (1999) (USA)

Some of the family members named in the movie were:
Ignatz Sonnenschein
Valerie Sonnenschein
Gustave Sonnenschein
Rose Sonnenschein
Emmanuel Sonnenschein
Aaron Sonnenschein
Josefa Sonnenschein

The film follows a Jewish family living in the Austro-Hungarian Empire
through three generations, rising >from humble beginnings to positions
of wealth and power in the crumbling Austro-Hungarian Empire.
The patriarch becomes a prominent judge but is torn when his government
sanctions anti-Jewish persecutions. His son converts to Christianity to
advance his career as a champion fencer and Olympic hero, but is caught
up in the Holocaust. Finally, the grandson, after surviving war,
revolution, loss and betrayal, realizes that his ultimate allegiance
must be to himself and his heritage.



Arnold Davidson
Boynton Beach, FL
arnoldbd@mindspring.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Forman/Foreman #general

Peter Bush
 

I have been trying to locate my Grandfather's family without success.

His sister was called Seral or Tseral Foreman/Forman and about 1908 she
lived at 77 Jackson Avenue, The Bronx. She had arrived in New York in the
early 1900's >from Kowal in Poland.

She had three sons, I do not know their names.

I wrote to all the Forman's in the Bronx, without any success, has anyone
any ideas.

Peter Bush


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re:SONNENSCHEIN - desperately seeking for roots of my family #general

Arnold Davidson <arnoldbd@...>
 

Claudia,

I would be very surprised if I was the only, or even the first, to respond
to your message. I call your attention to a recent movie about a
Sonnenschein family, some of whose members converted to Christianity.
I leave it to you or others to find out if you are related to that family.

The movie was called (in various countries):
Napfeny Ize, A (2000) (Hungary)
Sunshine - Ein Hauch von Sonnenschein (2000) (Germany)
Taste of Sunshine, The (1999) (USA)

Some of the family members named in the movie were:
Ignatz Sonnenschein
Valerie Sonnenschein
Gustave Sonnenschein
Rose Sonnenschein
Emmanuel Sonnenschein
Aaron Sonnenschein
Josefa Sonnenschein

The film follows a Jewish family living in the Austro-Hungarian Empire
through three generations, rising >from humble beginnings to positions
of wealth and power in the crumbling Austro-Hungarian Empire.
The patriarch becomes a prominent judge but is torn when his government
sanctions anti-Jewish persecutions. His son converts to Christianity to
advance his career as a champion fencer and Olympic hero, but is caught
up in the Holocaust. Finally, the grandson, after surviving war,
revolution, loss and betrayal, realizes that his ultimate allegiance
must be to himself and his heritage.



Arnold Davidson
Boynton Beach, FL
arnoldbd@mindspring.com


Re: Name Change, Boston #general

sallybru@...
 

In 1903, immigrants often had no papers, and the passenger lists were made
up by the shipping company with the names on the tickets. My cousin came
to the US in the 19teens-under another name which I know.

It seems that the fiance of a girl in her home town bought a ticket to
bring his future wife to the US. But the girl died before the ticket came
or the ship sailed. The family sold the ticket to my cousin's family-so it
wouldn't go to waste. My cousin then came to the US under the name of the
dead girl-and used her right name once she was here.

Bottom line is that there were often no papers. There was no need to go to
court and change a name-you used whatever name you wanted and unless you
tried to defraud someone that was fine.

So Dora whatever became Dora Goldstone so that she could pass as a sister.
Then if she wanted she could revert to whatever her name was-or change to
something else entirely.

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY


Re: Blanche PELTZ in Minneapolis, MN #general

froggy <painpals@...>
 

I looked in all the archives for the *major* Minneapolis newspapers but
could not find an obituary listed for her. If you want to look into any
of the smaller towns right outside Minn. go to
http://ajr.newslink.org/mnnews.html for all the MN newspapers listings.


For the rest of the members, if you go to
http://ajr.newslink.org/statnews.html , you can look up all U.S.
newspapers by state and http://ajr.newslink.org/dayn.html for National
newspapers . Most have searchable archives and a good way to look for
family obituaries.



-jessi-ann Rosenbaum
New York, USA
Researching: ROSENBAUM,JACOBS, HERMAN, HASS,
GETTENBERG, LEIBLER,ALTMAN, FINGERHOOD/FINGERHUT (Austria to NY USA)

----- Original Message -----
From: Cyndy and Vic <proprius@alltel.net>
Subject: Blanche PELTZ in Minneapolis, MN


Is there someone in Minneapolis who could tell me if there
is a site online where I could get an obituary for Blanch PELTZ
who died in Minneapolis on January 1, 2001?


Re: Jewish Twins #general

ctf-genealogy@...
 

Does anyone know the statistics for Jewish twinning or where information
might be found? My grandmother was a twin. I am about to marry someone who
was a twin, had a set of twins in a previous marriage, and has other twins
running throughout his family. They say the odds of having twins go up if
there are twins on both sides of the family and I am curious.

V. Friedman
Acworth, GA
ctf-genealogy@mindspring.com


Help on Multi-input with Family Tree Maker #general

Howard M. Rensin <hrensin@...>
 

I have several people in my family working on our family tree and we
each have the same version of Family Tree Maker. Is there any way to
synchronize the different inputs? In other words, if I make an entry and
send a copy of the entire family file to someone, when they copy it over,
it will write over any changes they have made on their file.
In regular multi-user database setups and in personal organizers like
Palm and Handspring, the data is actually synchronized to your PC to avoid
over writing.
Is there any way to do this with Family Tree Maker to avoid destroying
the other persons work?

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately. Mr. Rensin may post a
summary for the group if he receives helpful information.