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Re: Unraveling mysteries of tombstones #poland

Micah Males <mmm@...>
 

I believe the cemetery has separate sections for men and women. My sister
had thought of that one or perhaps a family plot. But since there seems to
just be a few Malis graves and the cemetery had been vandalized during WW II
as well as natural overgrowth, trees, shifting of the land, etc. some graves
that might have been there before are no longer accounted for, to the best
of my knowledge.

I did come across a section in a book at my local synagogue all about the
Warsaw Jewish cemeteries. Does anyone out there know for sure that there
were separate burials?

Thanks for your help.

----- Original Message -----
From: <David_Miller@lnotes5.bankofny.com>
To: "Micah Males" <mmm@vasco.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [jri-pl] Unraveling mysteries of tombstones


This may be obvious, but couldn't you find out which of the two Malis
women is
located close to your gggfather. People usually like to be interred close
to
their spouses. The cemetery personnel should be able to tell you this
from the
records.


JRI Poland #Poland Re: Unraveling mysteries of tombstones #poland

Micah Males <mmm@...>
 

I believe the cemetery has separate sections for men and women. My sister
had thought of that one or perhaps a family plot. But since there seems to
just be a few Malis graves and the cemetery had been vandalized during WW II
as well as natural overgrowth, trees, shifting of the land, etc. some graves
that might have been there before are no longer accounted for, to the best
of my knowledge.

I did come across a section in a book at my local synagogue all about the
Warsaw Jewish cemeteries. Does anyone out there know for sure that there
were separate burials?

Thanks for your help.

----- Original Message -----
From: <David_Miller@lnotes5.bankofny.com>
To: "Micah Males" <mmm@vasco.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [jri-pl] Unraveling mysteries of tombstones


This may be obvious, but couldn't you find out which of the two Malis
women is
located close to your gggfather. People usually like to be interred close
to
their spouses. The cemetery personnel should be able to tell you this
from the
records.


Marc,Vivian: Your "Sin" Is Forgiven! #hungary

PGergay@...
 

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From: PGergay@aol.com
Full-name: PGergay
Message-ID: <102.7d716c.27e920f1@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 16:09:05 EST
Subject: Marc,Vivian: Your "Sin" Is Forgiven!
To: mpolster@pacbell.net
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In a message dated 3/20/01 7:59:15 AM Pacific Standard Time,
mpolster@pacbell.net writes:

<< " But I didn't read the whole thing before pressing the "approve"
button and didn't consider the implications. I've gotten several messages
expressing displeasure for that article appearing on the list and regret the
slip up. No offense intended. It was my foul-up, not Louis or Vivian or
anyone else. Just an inexperienced and distracted stand-in moderator...
Again, I'm sorry. >>
Dear Marc,
I am a subscriber to "The Spectator" and I can attest to the fact that
this article was, indeed, of pivotal significance. While it could be
disputed if our forum was the most appropriate forum for surfacing it, there
can be no question that as the webmaster, the H-Sig community particularly
owes you a lot, as well as a great deal of gratitude to Vivian Kahn for your
superb work over the years. (As for Vivian, she seems to be everywhere ....I
read about her virtually every other morning in the "San Francisco
Chronicle"-----to the point when a breakfast without her seems to be
incomplete...). I am sure that in the Big Book upstairs your "sin" will be
inscribed as a "virtuous deed." In fact, I'll go a step further: I am sure
that in place of a rebuke, you will be thanked by Louis Schonfield, as
well....

Peter A. Gergay
San Francisco,CA

Moderator: What can I say?? VK


Hungary SIG #Hungary Fwd: Marc,Vivian: Your "Sin" Is Forgiven! #hungary

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From: PGergay@aol.com
Full-name: PGergay
Message-ID: <102.7d716c.27e920f1@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 16:09:05 EST
Subject: Marc,Vivian: Your "Sin" Is Forgiven!
To: mpolster@pacbell.net
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 123

In a message dated 3/20/01 7:59:15 AM Pacific Standard Time,
mpolster@pacbell.net writes:

<< " But I didn't read the whole thing before pressing the "approve"
button and didn't consider the implications. I've gotten several messages
expressing displeasure for that article appearing on the list and regret the
slip up. No offense intended. It was my foul-up, not Louis or Vivian or
anyone else. Just an inexperienced and distracted stand-in moderator...
Again, I'm sorry. >>
Dear Marc,
I am a subscriber to "The Spectator" and I can attest to the fact that
this article was, indeed, of pivotal significance. While it could be
disputed if our forum was the most appropriate forum for surfacing it, there
can be no question that as the webmaster, the H-Sig community particularly
owes you a lot, as well as a great deal of gratitude to Vivian Kahn for your
superb work over the years. (As for Vivian, she seems to be everywhere ....I
read about her virtually every other morning in the "San Francisco
Chronicle"-----to the point when a breakfast without her seems to be
incomplete...). I am sure that in the Big Book upstairs your "sin" will be
inscribed as a "virtuous deed." In fact, I'll go a step further: I am sure
that in place of a rebuke, you will be thanked by Louis Schonfield, as
well....

Peter A. Gergay
San Francisco,CA

Moderator: What can I say?? VK


AOL Anti-Spam Effort Loses E-mail #hungary

Carol Skydell <cskydell@...>
 

Please release immediately.

Well folks.....we've been hearing complaints about this for a long time.
AOL has never been responsive to JewishGen's pleas for attention to this
matter.....guess Earthlink apparently has gotten some positive action.
<grin>

Read the Associated Press News at

<http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010319/tc/missing_e_mail_4.html>

Carol

Carol Skydell, JewishGen Vice President, Operations


Hungary SIG #Hungary AOL Anti-Spam Effort Loses E-mail #hungary

Carol Skydell <cskydell@...>
 

Please release immediately.

Well folks.....we've been hearing complaints about this for a long time.
AOL has never been responsive to JewishGen's pleas for attention to this
matter.....guess Earthlink apparently has gotten some positive action.
<grin>

Read the Associated Press News at

<http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010319/tc/missing_e_mail_4.html>

Carol

Carol Skydell, JewishGen Vice President, Operations


Archives in Uzhgorod #hungary

IsraelP <zach4v6@...>
 

We are looking for some Galician records which may be in Uzhgorod.
Does anyone have experience trying to get records them by
correspondence. Considering that it's in present day Ukraine, but
quite close to Hungary, Slovakia and Rumania, what are our chances
to communicate with them efficiently in English or Polish?

Israel Pickholtz

Moderator: We've received reports that there are records in Uzhorod >from areas of Ung megye that are in presentday Slovakia and the other parts of Ung, eastward of Ungvar, that are now in the Ukraine. Please respond directly if you have recommendations on researchers who have worked in the Uzhorod archives. VK


Hungary SIG #Hungary Archives in Uzhgorod #hungary

IsraelP <zach4v6@...>
 

We are looking for some Galician records which may be in Uzhgorod.
Does anyone have experience trying to get records them by
correspondence. Considering that it's in present day Ukraine, but
quite close to Hungary, Slovakia and Rumania, what are our chances
to communicate with them efficiently in English or Polish?

Israel Pickholtz

Moderator: We've received reports that there are records in Uzhorod >from areas of Ung megye that are in presentday Slovakia and the other parts of Ung, eastward of Ungvar, that are now in the Ukraine. Please respond directly if you have recommendations on researchers who have worked in the Uzhorod archives. VK


"Stray" documents to share #general

Gertrude Singer Ogushwitz <gsogush@...>
 

I have "stray" documents to give away to the first person who requests one
or all. These items are not (unfortunately) related to my research:

1. NATHAN, Samuel, snapshot of tombstone, b.1858; interred 30 Nov 1925,
Riverside Cemetery, Roselle Park, Lodi, NJ.

2. SIMONS, Samuel. Petition, Surrogate's Court, Brooklyn, Kings County, NY:
Names include COHEN: Samuel, Rachel, Cecilia; WOLFF: Lillian, Gertrude,
Seymour, Ira, Myron; SIMON: Harry V.; Joseph E.; Julia V. Leo P.; Peter P.
"Leo P. and Peter P. are infants over age 14"

3.SIMONOVITZ, Isidore, SIMONOVITZ, Jack, and SIMON, Jack: Proceeding
for Letters of Administration, estate of (Isidore, Jack and Jack);
d. 8 Dec 1961, Coney Island Hospital, Brooklyn, NY. Also listed: SIMON:
Arthur; Herman P; Alfred; Nate. Also SIMONOWITZ, Gertrude; MILLER, Penny;
and SBINOWITZ, Beatrice. (sic)

4. SIMON aka SHEINOK, Israel, Brooklyn, NY. d. 12 Jan 1933, citizen of
Poland. Other given names: Harry, Solomon, Frieda TEISCH, Minnie
TUGENDER, August SIMON.

5. SIMON, Wolf David Ephraimov, his wife, Rivka (Rebecca) and children of
Kovno: translation of foreign passport, last date shown, 5 April 1892.

6. FEINBERG births, UK
a. Eva FEINBERG, b. 14 Mar 1895, Liverpool. Parents Morris and Fanny (nee
Meyer).
b. Wolf COHEN, b.20 Oct 1891, Leeds, Parents Abraham and Ethel (nee Sholeman)
c. Wolf COHEN, b.24 May 1892, Leeds, Parents Simon and Hannah (nee Isaac)

7. SINGER, Julius, b.ca.1894, application for a passport, 1925. b.
Kaminitz Podolsk. Witnesses: Benjamin Narkovsky; Hayman Bloomfield. (From
Russian Consular Records.)

8. SINGER, Sigmund, upholsterer. Index card, Intention, Application and
Oath of Allegiance. Naturalized 22 JUN 1866, NY. Former nationality:
"Emperor of Austria" (sic). Witness: Edward KOHN, NY, jeweler.

9. SINGER, Sigmund, manufacturer. Index card: Naturalization: 25 JUN 1891,
NY and Oath of Allegiance. Former nationality: "Emperor of Austria" (sic).
Witness: NATTENHEIMER, Meyer, merchant.

10. SINGER, Sigmund, certificate of Intention, NY, 23 Oct 1880.

Gertrude
Gertrude SINGER OGUSHWITZ
Storrs, CT
<gsogush@snet.net>


Searching for SMITHs of St. Louis in New York? #general

Daniel S. Katz <dsk@...>
 

Hi,

I'm looking for some second and third cousins:

Hilda Smith, born in St. Louis, married Bud Barge,
son Marc. Hilda died in Queens in 1994. I'm trying
to find Bud, Marc, or any other family.

Sylvia Smith, Hilda's sister, married Irv Feldman,
moved to New York?, 3 sons, Louis, Marc, unknown.
Again, I'm interested in contacting anyone in this
family.

Hilda and Sylvia's father was Max Smith, who was a brother
of my great-grandfather.

Please respond privately to dsk@lugh.cacr.caltech.edu

Thanks,
Dan Katz
Pasadena, CA


Seeking Arnona Judith MARENOFF EISENBERG #general

M. Ronn
 

A friend of mine is seeking his second cousin, Arnona Judith MARENOFF, who
married a man named EISENBERG. Arnona's father, Shlomo MARENOFF, was a
professor in Detroit, Michigan. She was born in the ealry 1930s,
presumably in Boston. She had two daughters probably born in the late
1940s or early 1950s.

Thank you for your assistance,

Michoel Ronn (netronn@hotmail.com)
Brooklyn, NY

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen "Stray" documents to share #general

Gertrude Singer Ogushwitz <gsogush@...>
 

I have "stray" documents to give away to the first person who requests one
or all. These items are not (unfortunately) related to my research:

1. NATHAN, Samuel, snapshot of tombstone, b.1858; interred 30 Nov 1925,
Riverside Cemetery, Roselle Park, Lodi, NJ.

2. SIMONS, Samuel. Petition, Surrogate's Court, Brooklyn, Kings County, NY:
Names include COHEN: Samuel, Rachel, Cecilia; WOLFF: Lillian, Gertrude,
Seymour, Ira, Myron; SIMON: Harry V.; Joseph E.; Julia V. Leo P.; Peter P.
"Leo P. and Peter P. are infants over age 14"

3.SIMONOVITZ, Isidore, SIMONOVITZ, Jack, and SIMON, Jack: Proceeding
for Letters of Administration, estate of (Isidore, Jack and Jack);
d. 8 Dec 1961, Coney Island Hospital, Brooklyn, NY. Also listed: SIMON:
Arthur; Herman P; Alfred; Nate. Also SIMONOWITZ, Gertrude; MILLER, Penny;
and SBINOWITZ, Beatrice. (sic)

4. SIMON aka SHEINOK, Israel, Brooklyn, NY. d. 12 Jan 1933, citizen of
Poland. Other given names: Harry, Solomon, Frieda TEISCH, Minnie
TUGENDER, August SIMON.

5. SIMON, Wolf David Ephraimov, his wife, Rivka (Rebecca) and children of
Kovno: translation of foreign passport, last date shown, 5 April 1892.

6. FEINBERG births, UK
a. Eva FEINBERG, b. 14 Mar 1895, Liverpool. Parents Morris and Fanny (nee
Meyer).
b. Wolf COHEN, b.20 Oct 1891, Leeds, Parents Abraham and Ethel (nee Sholeman)
c. Wolf COHEN, b.24 May 1892, Leeds, Parents Simon and Hannah (nee Isaac)

7. SINGER, Julius, b.ca.1894, application for a passport, 1925. b.
Kaminitz Podolsk. Witnesses: Benjamin Narkovsky; Hayman Bloomfield. (From
Russian Consular Records.)

8. SINGER, Sigmund, upholsterer. Index card, Intention, Application and
Oath of Allegiance. Naturalized 22 JUN 1866, NY. Former nationality:
"Emperor of Austria" (sic). Witness: Edward KOHN, NY, jeweler.

9. SINGER, Sigmund, manufacturer. Index card: Naturalization: 25 JUN 1891,
NY and Oath of Allegiance. Former nationality: "Emperor of Austria" (sic).
Witness: NATTENHEIMER, Meyer, merchant.

10. SINGER, Sigmund, certificate of Intention, NY, 23 Oct 1880.

Gertrude
Gertrude SINGER OGUSHWITZ
Storrs, CT
<gsogush@snet.net>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching for SMITHs of St. Louis in New York? #general

Daniel S. Katz <dsk@...>
 

Hi,

I'm looking for some second and third cousins:

Hilda Smith, born in St. Louis, married Bud Barge,
son Marc. Hilda died in Queens in 1994. I'm trying
to find Bud, Marc, or any other family.

Sylvia Smith, Hilda's sister, married Irv Feldman,
moved to New York?, 3 sons, Louis, Marc, unknown.
Again, I'm interested in contacting anyone in this
family.

Hilda and Sylvia's father was Max Smith, who was a brother
of my great-grandfather.

Please respond privately to dsk@lugh.cacr.caltech.edu

Thanks,
Dan Katz
Pasadena, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking Arnona Judith MARENOFF EISENBERG #general

M. Ronn
 

A friend of mine is seeking his second cousin, Arnona Judith MARENOFF, who
married a man named EISENBERG. Arnona's father, Shlomo MARENOFF, was a
professor in Detroit, Michigan. She was born in the ealry 1930s,
presumably in Boston. She had two daughters probably born in the late
1940s or early 1950s.

Thank you for your assistance,

Michoel Ronn (netronn@hotmail.com)
Brooklyn, NY

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately.


Anatevka & Yehupets #general

shirley pencer <scpencer@...>
 

Dear Group Members:
The question of the real name of Sholom Aleichem's fictional Anatevka has
come up as a topic of another discussion group, with several different
replies; I am posting my reply as it is of interest to the Ukraine SIG.
While looking through one of the Shtetl Finder books, I came across the
notations that Sholom Aleichem referred to existing places in the Ukraine
with pseudonyms. The fictional name of Yehupets was his name for Kiev; the
town of Anatevka was his name for Boyarka.

I was intrigued, as my maternal ancestors come >from Boyarka, found on
contemporary maps, just southwest of Kiev, in the Kievskaya Oblast. If
anyone has any information on this place, I would be grateful to learn
of it. I am seeking vital records, which appear to have survived from
Boyarka. A Soviet emigre relative accessed his mother's birth certificate
of 1902 >from somewhere near there in 1978, but couldn't specify how or
where. Also, if anyone could advise how to contact the Boyerke
Landmanschaften listed in the cemeteries of Long Island, would be very
helpful in my research.
Shirley Pencer
now in Long Island, NY
Researching: Relative who emigrated in the early 1900's
MEDVEDOVSKY-Boyarka/Kiev--London, England--Montreal, Quebec,Canada
SACHNOVICH-Boyarka/Kiev--London, England--Montreal, Quebec, Canada
DALIS-Boyarka/Kiev--London, England--Montreal, Quebec, Canada
BLITZSTEIN-Boyarka/Kiev--London, England--Montreal, Quebec, Canada
PENCER/PANCER-PANTZER--Jelna,Rayshi District,Galicia-London Eng.-
Montreal ,Qc GREEN/variant--Posen, Prussia/Poznan,Poland-London,Eng-Wales
[surname list edited to allowable 6 lines.]


Re: Intended location for Anatevka (from Fiddler on the Roof) #belarus

LenLW <lenlw@...>
 

Intended location for Anatevka (>from Fiddler on the Roof)

Sholom Alechem was >from Pereyslav,
Actually, Sholom Aleichem never wrote of Anatevka. The village he wrote
about was Kasrilevke. Anatevka was a name made up by Joseph Stein who
wrote the book for the show.

Leonard Nadler
Silver Spring, MD
Len


Death at sea #general

DStern13@...
 

During my research I have come across a question which I can not answer:
When a Jewish passenger / sailor died at sea on long routes what happened
to his (her) body? Gentiles received a sea funeral, but what about the
Jews?

Can someone help?
Thank you!!

David Stern
(DStern13@aol.com)


Looking for Osher BLEICH listed on family finder from Stropkov, Slovakia #general

George
 

Hello,
I tried to contact Osher Bleich listed on the Jewish Gen website but my
email did not go through. I am curious to contact him because my
great-grandfather was named Osher Bleich. His family >from Stropkov,
Slovakia. Does anyone know how I can reach him?

George Frankel

Researching:
Turner: Kalwariya, Oswiecim, Mszana Dolna, Krakow, Berlin, Nowe Sacz,
Nowe Targ, Poland; Czeckoslavakia Fisch (Fisz): Tarnow, Brzostek,
Radgosczc, Dobrowa, Poland Moravska Ostrava, Czech; Beller/Zell: Boiberke
(Bobrka), Ukraine; Vienna, Austria; Brooklyn, NY Bleich/Frankel: Budkiv,
Grinyev, Mikolajow, Bobrka, Ukraine Vienna, Austria; Brooklyn, New York


The Name Amon #general

Dale and Rinnah <dburns60@...>
 

Shalom,
I am interested in finding out what the name Amon means?
Thank You,
Rinnah Burns, Akron, Ohio
dburns60@neo.rr.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Anatevka & Yehupets #general

shirley pencer <scpencer@...>
 

Dear Group Members:
The question of the real name of Sholom Aleichem's fictional Anatevka has
come up as a topic of another discussion group, with several different
replies; I am posting my reply as it is of interest to the Ukraine SIG.
While looking through one of the Shtetl Finder books, I came across the
notations that Sholom Aleichem referred to existing places in the Ukraine
with pseudonyms. The fictional name of Yehupets was his name for Kiev; the
town of Anatevka was his name for Boyarka.

I was intrigued, as my maternal ancestors come >from Boyarka, found on
contemporary maps, just southwest of Kiev, in the Kievskaya Oblast. If
anyone has any information on this place, I would be grateful to learn
of it. I am seeking vital records, which appear to have survived from
Boyarka. A Soviet emigre relative accessed his mother's birth certificate
of 1902 >from somewhere near there in 1978, but couldn't specify how or
where. Also, if anyone could advise how to contact the Boyerke
Landmanschaften listed in the cemeteries of Long Island, would be very
helpful in my research.
Shirley Pencer
now in Long Island, NY
Researching: Relative who emigrated in the early 1900's
MEDVEDOVSKY-Boyarka/Kiev--London, England--Montreal, Quebec,Canada
SACHNOVICH-Boyarka/Kiev--London, England--Montreal, Quebec, Canada
DALIS-Boyarka/Kiev--London, England--Montreal, Quebec, Canada
BLITZSTEIN-Boyarka/Kiev--London, England--Montreal, Quebec, Canada
PENCER/PANCER-PANTZER--Jelna,Rayshi District,Galicia-London Eng.-
Montreal ,Qc GREEN/variant--Posen, Prussia/Poznan,Poland-London,Eng-Wales
[surname list edited to allowable 6 lines.]