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Re: Do you recognize this Chicago Funeral Home? #general

Carole/Phil Silverman
 

Hi Roy,

My ggm used the Gratch Undertaking Co. at 2235 Division St, Chicago, IL
and the undertaker's name at the time (1935) was Arthur Mandel.

Phillip Silverman
Culver City, CA

Roy Ogus < ogus@impact.xerox.com > wrote:

<< I've just received a death certificate for a family member who died in
Chicago in May 1926. I am having great difficulty deciphering the name
of the Undertaker on the certificate, and wondered if anyone might
recognize the name.

The name of the Undertaker firm on the certificate appears to be
something like "Natch Mid Co" or perhaps "Watch Nud Co". The part of
the name that is shown clearly is that the first word ends with
"atch". The address is also shown clearly as "2235 West Division
Street".

The individual who signed the certificate >from the Undertaker's firm
also had a name that ended in "atch", but the beginning of his name is
also hard to decipher.

Does anyone recognize the name of the Funeral Home or Undertaker from
this information? It doesn't look like any of the Chicago Funeral
Homes with which I am familiar. >>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Do you recognize this Chicago Funeral Home? #general

Carole/Phil Silverman
 

Hi Roy,

My ggm used the Gratch Undertaking Co. at 2235 Division St, Chicago, IL
and the undertaker's name at the time (1935) was Arthur Mandel.

Phillip Silverman
Culver City, CA

Roy Ogus < ogus@impact.xerox.com > wrote:

<< I've just received a death certificate for a family member who died in
Chicago in May 1926. I am having great difficulty deciphering the name
of the Undertaker on the certificate, and wondered if anyone might
recognize the name.

The name of the Undertaker firm on the certificate appears to be
something like "Natch Mid Co" or perhaps "Watch Nud Co". The part of
the name that is shown clearly is that the first word ends with
"atch". The address is also shown clearly as "2235 West Division
Street".

The individual who signed the certificate >from the Undertaker's firm
also had a name that ended in "atch", but the beginning of his name is
also hard to decipher.

Does anyone recognize the name of the Funeral Home or Undertaker from
this information? It doesn't look like any of the Chicago Funeral
Homes with which I am familiar. >>


EIDB Error Email? #general

RSStatfeld <rsstatfeld@...>
 

I sent a spelling correction to errors@ellisisland.org, per a posting above,
but I received a return email >from the postmaster@ellisisland.org, saying the
recipient name is not recognized. Any ideas or corrections? Thank you.
R. Statfeld


Which ship? #general

RSStatfeld <rsstatfeld@...>
 

Can anyone lead me to information on ships, schedules, etc? I found ship's
manifest showing wife and kids came over >from Bremen in 1913. Husband came
over in 1910 according to the 1920 census, but I cannot find him on the Ellis
Island search, even accounting for spelling errors. Trying to find random
people who came >from Bremen in 1910 and going thru manifests line by line, no
luck so far. My questions are:
- Was it standard for people >from Osiek Galicia to come to the US via Bremen,
or what other ports were common?
- How often did the ships depart? So far, I have come across 6 different
Bremen departures, and they were all different months. Is this just by chance,
or do I have only 6 more to go?!

Thank you.
R. Statfeld

Searching STATFELD, STADFELD, >from Galicia; RASHOTSKY >from Russia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen EIDB Error Email? #general

RSStatfeld <rsstatfeld@...>
 

I sent a spelling correction to errors@ellisisland.org, per a posting above,
but I received a return email >from the postmaster@ellisisland.org, saying the
recipient name is not recognized. Any ideas or corrections? Thank you.
R. Statfeld


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Which ship? #general

RSStatfeld <rsstatfeld@...>
 

Can anyone lead me to information on ships, schedules, etc? I found ship's
manifest showing wife and kids came over >from Bremen in 1913. Husband came
over in 1910 according to the 1920 census, but I cannot find him on the Ellis
Island search, even accounting for spelling errors. Trying to find random
people who came >from Bremen in 1910 and going thru manifests line by line, no
luck so far. My questions are:
- Was it standard for people >from Osiek Galicia to come to the US via Bremen,
or what other ports were common?
- How often did the ships depart? So far, I have come across 6 different
Bremen departures, and they were all different months. Is this just by chance,
or do I have only 6 more to go?!

Thank you.
R. Statfeld

Searching STATFELD, STADFELD, >from Galicia; RASHOTSKY >from Russia


Re: Makow Mazowiecki---where are these records? #general

Stanley Diamond
 

In a message dated Sat, 19 May 2001 12:25:55 GMT, Marty Meyers
<marty@hishome.com> writes:

I was wondering where the records for Makow Mazowiecki are located.
I see only one year listed in the JRI-Poland database and nothing in the
"poland jri film status.xls" file, which presumably includes all the LDS
microfilms.
Indices to Makow Mazowieckie vital records now in the Jewish
Records Indexing - Poland database are for the year 1898, the
first year for which there are *known* surviving records.

As additional registers for later years are transferred >from the
Makow Maz. Urzad Stanu Cywilnego (civil records offices) to
the Pultusk branch of the Polish State Archives, they will be
indexed by JRI-Poland.

Stanley Diamond
Project Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Makow Mazowiecki---where are these records? #general

Stanley Diamond
 

In a message dated Sat, 19 May 2001 12:25:55 GMT, Marty Meyers
<marty@hishome.com> writes:

I was wondering where the records for Makow Mazowiecki are located.
I see only one year listed in the JRI-Poland database and nothing in the
"poland jri film status.xls" file, which presumably includes all the LDS
microfilms.
Indices to Makow Mazowieckie vital records now in the Jewish
Records Indexing - Poland database are for the year 1898, the
first year for which there are *known* surviving records.

As additional registers for later years are transferred >from the
Makow Maz. Urzad Stanu Cywilnego (civil records offices) to
the Pultusk branch of the Polish State Archives, they will be
indexed by JRI-Poland.

Stanley Diamond
Project Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland


Boarders #hungary

cmandel@...
 

Certainly, the 1920 Census lists boarders under the head of
household where the boarder lived. My grandparents listing, for
example listed one boarder.

Charles Mandelbaum

Searching Mandelbaum in Lubuoml (Libivne) and vicinity and
Friedman (Freedman) in Warsaw and the Luboml area.


More Sighet Lists #hungary

nachi keren <nachi_k@...>
 

Dear Friends,
I have added two more lists for Sighet.One is the Chevra
Kadisha Pinkas 1895-1925, the other are names >from the
Veteran Zionists lists taken in 1944.I'd love to have your
remarks and suggestions.The Veteran Zionists lists is a
very large "database" for all the area of Hungary,please
let me have your responses for the accuracy of the
information.
Nachi

=====
Nachi Keren-Israel,
*Kratz,Weiss,Steiger >from Sighet.
*Indig,shlomovitz,Stern >from Petrova or Ruskova.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Boarders #hungary

cmandel@...
 

Certainly, the 1920 Census lists boarders under the head of
household where the boarder lived. My grandparents listing, for
example listed one boarder.

Charles Mandelbaum

Searching Mandelbaum in Lubuoml (Libivne) and vicinity and
Friedman (Freedman) in Warsaw and the Luboml area.


Hungary SIG #Hungary More Sighet Lists #hungary

nachi keren <nachi_k@...>
 

Dear Friends,
I have added two more lists for Sighet.One is the Chevra
Kadisha Pinkas 1895-1925, the other are names >from the
Veteran Zionists lists taken in 1944.I'd love to have your
remarks and suggestions.The Veteran Zionists lists is a
very large "database" for all the area of Hungary,please
let me have your responses for the accuracy of the
information.
Nachi

=====
Nachi Keren-Israel,
*Kratz,Weiss,Steiger >from Sighet.
*Indig,shlomovitz,Stern >from Petrova or Ruskova.


Looking for Dezso Remenyi #hungary

Laurie Remenyi <lremenyi@...>
 

Greetings,

I am trying to track down something, anything, on my
husband's grandfather, Dezso Remenyi (known as David
Remenyi in the U.S.), and this list was recommended to
me. My father-in-law does not think Remenyi is the
real family name. He claims that a cousin, Harry
Rosenberg, said he knew the family as Steinberg in
Hungary. He also claims that they changed their name
to Remenyi in honor of Edouard Remenyi, the famous
musician. Dezso was a musician and dance instructor.

There were four children in the family: Dezso (David),
Elemer (Elmer), Vilmos (William) and a sister whose
name he cannot remember, although he recalls she
married a man whose last name was Horchesky and lived
in NYC or New Jersey. They came >from Halmi, Hungary
(now Halmeu, Romania). Their father is said to have
owned the only hotel in Halmi in the early 1900s.
Dezso came to the U.S. in 1907, at age 25, and stayed
in New York with Vilmos, who operated a dance studio
and was known as Professor William Remenyi. Vilmos'
wife's name was Ida. Dezso later moved to Cleveland,
and opened the Remenyi School of Dance in Cleveland
and in Beckley, WV. Elemer is said to have lived in
Detroit.

I have searched EIDB for Remenyi and Steinberg and
extremely creative variations of each and have had no
luck. I have also tried searching on first names and
interesting combinations of letters for last names,
many of which bear no resemblance to Remenyi or
Steinberg. Still no luck.

Also, on our last visit to Cleveland, my father-in-law
gave me several documents which are stock certificates
from Sátoraljaújhely Electric Lighting and Power. His
mother's family, who I found very easily on EIDB, came
from Sátoraljaújhely. There are also sheets of what
appear to be coupons, and several coupons have been
cut out. Does anyone have any information about these?


Has anyone heard of any of these names? Thanks very
much for your time.

Laurie McLaughlin Remenyi
"The Hungarians" (Remenyi or Steinberg, Weisz, Berger,
Fried)
"The Anglo-Saxons" (Young, Wendle, Stoner, Parker,
Grooms, Leeth, Davis, Campbell, Sherman)


JewishGen's Rabbinic Genealogy SIG online! #hungary

Carol W. Skydell <cskydell@...>
 

Under the energetic leadership of an internet-connected illustrious steering
committee made up of Dr. Neil Rosenstein (USA), Rabbi Philip Heilbrunn
(AU), Dr. Robert E. Heyman (AU), Mr. Ronald M. "Ron" Landau (USA), Dr.
Perets Mett (UK), Mr. Leslie Reich (UK), Shirley Rotbein Flaum (USA), and
Mr. Tom Venetianer (BR)-- who also serves as the talented webmaster, we are
very pleased to announce the availability of the JewishGen Rabbinic
Genealogy SIG.

This SIG will answer the long felt need for a central clearinghouse
providing researchers of rabbinic ancestry and rabbinic genealogies with a
forum for the exchange of information.

The group's prime objectives are:

1) to provide an Internet discussion group forum for the exchange of
information on rabbinic genealogy,

2) to maintain an Internet web site on JewishGen providing a permanent home
for information, research techniques, links to searchable databases, and
resources on rabbinic genealogy, and

3) to encourage and support the discovery of sources of rabbinic
genealogical data.


Recognizing that rabbinic ancestry is a major part of Jewish genealogy and
because we saw the need for the study of rabbinic ancestry to be represented
by a presence on JewishGen, this SIG has been created in record time.
Rabbinic genealogy transcends geographic areas, vast time periods in Jewish
history, and designations such as Ashkenazic or Sephardic.

For most Ashkenazic Jews, surnames are a relatively recent invention --
less than 200 years old. Rabbinical families seem to have been the
exception to this rule. The use and adoption of surnames for these families
dates back to as early as the 15th century if not earlier, thus preceding
all other family names by about 350 years.

Some authorities estimate that perhaps as many as one in fifty Jews alive
today have a rabbinic ancestry. Many may not be aware of such an ancestry,
nor, if some awareness exists, how or where to locate resources to begin a
search of this unique aspect of their Jewish ancestry. We believe that
providing the means for researching one's rabbinic ancestry, whether for the
novice or experienced researcher, is a great service to the entire JewishGen
community

In addition to a website already online at
http://www.jewishgen.org/rabbinic/ the discussion group mailing list is now
accepting subscriptions either through e-mail or via the webform online at
http://www.jewishgen.org/listserv/sigs.htm where you just click on
Subscribe and the webform will take you through the process. Be sure to
scroll down to the bottom and click on the "submit my request" button.

If you prefer to subscribe via e-mail address an e-mail to:

listserve@lyris.jewishgen.org and just say

subscribe ravsig (insert first name) (insert last name)

Using either method, webform or e-mail you will receive a message
requesting you to confirm the subscription. This message *must* be
returned in order for you to complete the subscription process. Easy to
do...just hit the reply button on your e-mailer and it should be properly
addressed to the subscription robot. You'll know that you have done it all
correctly when you get the Welcome Document sent to you automatically by the
Rabbinic Genealogy SIG.

If you have any difficulty, please contact support@jewishgen.org and
somebody there will help.

Carol Skydell, Vice President
JewishGen Operations


new Videos for Latvia and Lithuania and 60 more! #hungary

Carol W. Skydell <cskydell@...>
 

Dear 'genners

We now have 8 new videos by Aleksandrs Feigmanis, the well-known
genealogist, filmed at several shtetls and towns in Latvia and Lithuania.
These are in addition to the 6 Feigmanis videos already offered. All are
available in two formats so everyone can view these no matter what kind of
VCR they have. After you've gone into the Mall, just click on New Items or
go to Videos/Baltic States and Poland.

While you're in videos, take a look at the other 60+ titles we carry which
include, "The Kovno Ghetto," "Jews of Boston," "Israel: A Nation is Born"
with Abba Eban, "Lost Tribes of Israel," "Not Like Sheep to the Slaughter"
(resistance fighters of the Bialystok ghetto), and "Sunlight and Shadow:
The Golden Age of Jewry."

Sandy and Don Hirschhorn, the JewishGenMall managers aim to please. If
there
is a book or video you would like us to carry because of general interest to
your SIG, research or study group, just click on the Contact Us button on
the left side of the JewishGenMall main page at
htp://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgenmall give us the title and the publisher
of the book or video and we'll do our best to accomodate your request.

Many thanks for your participation. Your purchases in the JewishGenMall
help to support all the free projects, programs and mailing lists we
provide.

Carol Skydell, Vice President, JewishGen Operations


Netvision users. HELP! (Off Topic) #hungary

Margarita Lacko <uzidog@...>
 

Dear H-siggers,

I'm having serious problems communicating with my brother.
He is not receiving my messages, although I do get his.
We made several tests with two other friends who also use Netvision. The
result is the same: they do not get my messages.

I need the help of someone who is computer literate and has two different
ISPs (one of them has to be netvision), to find out where is the problem.

Please contact me privately so I can explain more about this mysterious
cyber-glitch.

Thank you.

Margarita Lackó
from "the island" in Miami
uzidog@post1.com


Hungary SIG #Hungary Looking for Dezso Remenyi #hungary

Laurie Remenyi <lremenyi@...>
 

Greetings,

I am trying to track down something, anything, on my
husband's grandfather, Dezso Remenyi (known as David
Remenyi in the U.S.), and this list was recommended to
me. My father-in-law does not think Remenyi is the
real family name. He claims that a cousin, Harry
Rosenberg, said he knew the family as Steinberg in
Hungary. He also claims that they changed their name
to Remenyi in honor of Edouard Remenyi, the famous
musician. Dezso was a musician and dance instructor.

There were four children in the family: Dezso (David),
Elemer (Elmer), Vilmos (William) and a sister whose
name he cannot remember, although he recalls she
married a man whose last name was Horchesky and lived
in NYC or New Jersey. They came >from Halmi, Hungary
(now Halmeu, Romania). Their father is said to have
owned the only hotel in Halmi in the early 1900s.
Dezso came to the U.S. in 1907, at age 25, and stayed
in New York with Vilmos, who operated a dance studio
and was known as Professor William Remenyi. Vilmos'
wife's name was Ida. Dezso later moved to Cleveland,
and opened the Remenyi School of Dance in Cleveland
and in Beckley, WV. Elemer is said to have lived in
Detroit.

I have searched EIDB for Remenyi and Steinberg and
extremely creative variations of each and have had no
luck. I have also tried searching on first names and
interesting combinations of letters for last names,
many of which bear no resemblance to Remenyi or
Steinberg. Still no luck.

Also, on our last visit to Cleveland, my father-in-law
gave me several documents which are stock certificates
from Sátoraljaújhely Electric Lighting and Power. His
mother's family, who I found very easily on EIDB, came
from Sátoraljaújhely. There are also sheets of what
appear to be coupons, and several coupons have been
cut out. Does anyone have any information about these?


Has anyone heard of any of these names? Thanks very
much for your time.

Laurie McLaughlin Remenyi
"The Hungarians" (Remenyi or Steinberg, Weisz, Berger,
Fried)
"The Anglo-Saxons" (Young, Wendle, Stoner, Parker,
Grooms, Leeth, Davis, Campbell, Sherman)


Hungary SIG #Hungary JewishGen's Rabbinic Genealogy SIG online! #hungary

Carol W. Skydell <cskydell@...>
 

Under the energetic leadership of an internet-connected illustrious steering
committee made up of Dr. Neil Rosenstein (USA), Rabbi Philip Heilbrunn
(AU), Dr. Robert E. Heyman (AU), Mr. Ronald M. "Ron" Landau (USA), Dr.
Perets Mett (UK), Mr. Leslie Reich (UK), Shirley Rotbein Flaum (USA), and
Mr. Tom Venetianer (BR)-- who also serves as the talented webmaster, we are
very pleased to announce the availability of the JewishGen Rabbinic
Genealogy SIG.

This SIG will answer the long felt need for a central clearinghouse
providing researchers of rabbinic ancestry and rabbinic genealogies with a
forum for the exchange of information.

The group's prime objectives are:

1) to provide an Internet discussion group forum for the exchange of
information on rabbinic genealogy,

2) to maintain an Internet web site on JewishGen providing a permanent home
for information, research techniques, links to searchable databases, and
resources on rabbinic genealogy, and

3) to encourage and support the discovery of sources of rabbinic
genealogical data.


Recognizing that rabbinic ancestry is a major part of Jewish genealogy and
because we saw the need for the study of rabbinic ancestry to be represented
by a presence on JewishGen, this SIG has been created in record time.
Rabbinic genealogy transcends geographic areas, vast time periods in Jewish
history, and designations such as Ashkenazic or Sephardic.

For most Ashkenazic Jews, surnames are a relatively recent invention --
less than 200 years old. Rabbinical families seem to have been the
exception to this rule. The use and adoption of surnames for these families
dates back to as early as the 15th century if not earlier, thus preceding
all other family names by about 350 years.

Some authorities estimate that perhaps as many as one in fifty Jews alive
today have a rabbinic ancestry. Many may not be aware of such an ancestry,
nor, if some awareness exists, how or where to locate resources to begin a
search of this unique aspect of their Jewish ancestry. We believe that
providing the means for researching one's rabbinic ancestry, whether for the
novice or experienced researcher, is a great service to the entire JewishGen
community

In addition to a website already online at
http://www.jewishgen.org/rabbinic/ the discussion group mailing list is now
accepting subscriptions either through e-mail or via the webform online at
http://www.jewishgen.org/listserv/sigs.htm where you just click on
Subscribe and the webform will take you through the process. Be sure to
scroll down to the bottom and click on the "submit my request" button.

If you prefer to subscribe via e-mail address an e-mail to:

listserve@lyris.jewishgen.org and just say

subscribe ravsig (insert first name) (insert last name)

Using either method, webform or e-mail you will receive a message
requesting you to confirm the subscription. This message *must* be
returned in order for you to complete the subscription process. Easy to
do...just hit the reply button on your e-mailer and it should be properly
addressed to the subscription robot. You'll know that you have done it all
correctly when you get the Welcome Document sent to you automatically by the
Rabbinic Genealogy SIG.

If you have any difficulty, please contact support@jewishgen.org and
somebody there will help.

Carol Skydell, Vice President
JewishGen Operations


Hungary SIG #Hungary new Videos for Latvia and Lithuania and 60 more! #hungary

Carol W. Skydell <cskydell@...>
 

Dear 'genners

We now have 8 new videos by Aleksandrs Feigmanis, the well-known
genealogist, filmed at several shtetls and towns in Latvia and Lithuania.
These are in addition to the 6 Feigmanis videos already offered. All are
available in two formats so everyone can view these no matter what kind of
VCR they have. After you've gone into the Mall, just click on New Items or
go to Videos/Baltic States and Poland.

While you're in videos, take a look at the other 60+ titles we carry which
include, "The Kovno Ghetto," "Jews of Boston," "Israel: A Nation is Born"
with Abba Eban, "Lost Tribes of Israel," "Not Like Sheep to the Slaughter"
(resistance fighters of the Bialystok ghetto), and "Sunlight and Shadow:
The Golden Age of Jewry."

Sandy and Don Hirschhorn, the JewishGenMall managers aim to please. If
there
is a book or video you would like us to carry because of general interest to
your SIG, research or study group, just click on the Contact Us button on
the left side of the JewishGenMall main page at
htp://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgenmall give us the title and the publisher
of the book or video and we'll do our best to accomodate your request.

Many thanks for your participation. Your purchases in the JewishGenMall
help to support all the free projects, programs and mailing lists we
provide.

Carol Skydell, Vice President, JewishGen Operations


Hungary SIG #Hungary Netvision users. HELP! (Off Topic) #hungary

Margarita Lacko <uzidog@...>
 

Dear H-siggers,

I'm having serious problems communicating with my brother.
He is not receiving my messages, although I do get his.
We made several tests with two other friends who also use Netvision. The
result is the same: they do not get my messages.

I need the help of someone who is computer literate and has two different
ISPs (one of them has to be netvision), to find out where is the problem.

Please contact me privately so I can explain more about this mysterious
cyber-glitch.

Thank you.

Margarita Lackó
from "the island" in Miami
uzidog@post1.com