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Fanny NEUDA - her son Gotthold NEUDA died in Brussels #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

As I wrote yesterday, little by little, various mysteries are solved often with the help of the Neue Freie Presse
{NFP}.

We have written about Fanny [nee SCHMIEDEL] NEUDA born 1821 in Eibenschitz, Moravia and her famous
prayer book and family frequently before. My last posting revealed new findings about her son Gotthold and
I also know that his wife was not Jewish see the message archives - Fri, 18 Jul 2008 - Subject: Fanny NEUDA
- burial mystery hopefully solved by obituary notice in NFP "Gotthold was the Austro-Hungarian
Commercial attache at the Austrian Consulate at Port-au-Prince, Haiti. Was he perhaps, our first Moravian
Jew in Haiti? This posting perhaps explains his marriage, I found in New York:

Gotthold NEUDA - Father: Abraham Mother: Fannie {nee SCHMIEDEL}
Spouse: Marie LAURENT - Marriage: 28 Dec 1888 Manhattan, New York"

What happened to Gotthold after his tour of duty in Haiti?

Well once again NFP comes to the rescue. Gotthold died in Brussels aged 72.
He seems to have outlived his wife and had no living children:

see NFP 12 June 1918 p 16 via http://anno.onb.ac.at
Tinyurl: http://tinyurl.com/55mm8l
http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno?apm=0&aid=nfp&datum=19180612&seite=16

Was Gotthold an early pre-EU commercial attache? How long had he lived in Brussels?

Now we need help >from our two keen genealogists in Belgium - Jan Bousse and Evelyne Haendel. Where
could Gotthold NEUDA be buried?

Celia Male - London - U.K.


["Austria-Czech SIG] New project to commemorate Nicholas Winton #austria-czech

Lisa Feder <lfeder@...>
 

The following may be of interest to SIG members:

A project is underway in Czech Republic to commemorate
the 70th anniversary of the "Winton Transports" which
rescued Jewish children >from Czechoslovakia. The
project includes an art competition for students
"Inspired by the Good" and will include the launch of
a commemorative train >from Prague to London in
September 2009.

An article in English translation can be read at:

http://praguemonitor.com/2008/11/13/czech-winton-train-commemorate-saved-jewish-children-0

Lisa Feder
Fox Lake, IL


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Fanny NEUDA - her son Gotthold NEUDA died in Brussels #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

As I wrote yesterday, little by little, various mysteries are solved often with the help of the Neue Freie Presse
{NFP}.

We have written about Fanny [nee SCHMIEDEL] NEUDA born 1821 in Eibenschitz, Moravia and her famous
prayer book and family frequently before. My last posting revealed new findings about her son Gotthold and
I also know that his wife was not Jewish see the message archives - Fri, 18 Jul 2008 - Subject: Fanny NEUDA
- burial mystery hopefully solved by obituary notice in NFP "Gotthold was the Austro-Hungarian
Commercial attache at the Austrian Consulate at Port-au-Prince, Haiti. Was he perhaps, our first Moravian
Jew in Haiti? This posting perhaps explains his marriage, I found in New York:

Gotthold NEUDA - Father: Abraham Mother: Fannie {nee SCHMIEDEL}
Spouse: Marie LAURENT - Marriage: 28 Dec 1888 Manhattan, New York"

What happened to Gotthold after his tour of duty in Haiti?

Well once again NFP comes to the rescue. Gotthold died in Brussels aged 72.
He seems to have outlived his wife and had no living children:

see NFP 12 June 1918 p 16 via http://anno.onb.ac.at
Tinyurl: http://tinyurl.com/55mm8l
http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno?apm=0&aid=nfp&datum=19180612&seite=16

Was Gotthold an early pre-EU commercial attache? How long had he lived in Brussels?

Now we need help >from our two keen genealogists in Belgium - Jan Bousse and Evelyne Haendel. Where
could Gotthold NEUDA be buried?

Celia Male - London - U.K.


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech ["Austria-Czech SIG] New project to commemorate Nicholas Winton #austria-czech

Lisa Feder <lfeder@...>
 

The following may be of interest to SIG members:

A project is underway in Czech Republic to commemorate
the 70th anniversary of the "Winton Transports" which
rescued Jewish children >from Czechoslovakia. The
project includes an art competition for students
"Inspired by the Good" and will include the launch of
a commemorative train >from Prague to London in
September 2009.

An article in English translation can be read at:

http://praguemonitor.com/2008/11/13/czech-winton-train-commemorate-saved-jewish-children-0

Lisa Feder
Fox Lake, IL


Re: Joint distribution files #austria-czech

Ronny Roberts <ronny@...>
 

My experience with zoom in files on the site Vera Finsberg mentions is that
these images are movable.

If using a desktop PC, left click the mouse and drag the image in the
desired direction. If on a notebook/laptop you will need to use the mousepad
and CTRL key.

Ronny Roberts, London
AUFRICHTIG, AUFRIKHTIG, OFRICHTIG, HUSSERL (Moravia), LOKSCHAN (Moravia),
WODAK (Moravia)


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech RE: Joint distribution files #austria-czech

Ronny Roberts <ronny@...>
 

My experience with zoom in files on the site Vera Finsberg mentions is that
these images are movable.

If using a desktop PC, left click the mouse and drag the image in the
desired direction. If on a notebook/laptop you will need to use the mousepad
and CTRL key.

Ronny Roberts, London
AUFRICHTIG, AUFRIKHTIG, OFRICHTIG, HUSSERL (Moravia), LOKSCHAN (Moravia),
WODAK (Moravia)


Arthur HAHN, Berlin #germany

Lande
 

In response to an earlier inquiry regarding the HAHN family, I found Julie
HAHN, nee SCHWARZ, born 3/29/1872 in Koscian, Poland and resident in Berlin
at Roscherstr. 12. She was deported to Theresienstadt 12/15/1942 and died
there 1/9/1943. Unfortunately, while there were three persons residing in
Berlin named Arthur HAHN, none lived at the same address as Julie, and,
without a date of birth there is no way to establish whether any of them
were Julie's husband. There were four persons named Margaret HAHN, two
Leos, four Hans, and one Erna, none at the same address as Julie. A check
on Theresienstadt records indicates that no persons named Margit or Hans
HAHN were deported there. Dates or places of birth are essential where the
family name is a common one.

Peter Lande Washington, D.C. <pdlande@starpower.net>


German SIG #Germany Arthur HAHN, Berlin #germany

Lande
 

In response to an earlier inquiry regarding the HAHN family, I found Julie
HAHN, nee SCHWARZ, born 3/29/1872 in Koscian, Poland and resident in Berlin
at Roscherstr. 12. She was deported to Theresienstadt 12/15/1942 and died
there 1/9/1943. Unfortunately, while there were three persons residing in
Berlin named Arthur HAHN, none lived at the same address as Julie, and,
without a date of birth there is no way to establish whether any of them
were Julie's husband. There were four persons named Margaret HAHN, two
Leos, four Hans, and one Erna, none at the same address as Julie. A check
on Theresienstadt records indicates that no persons named Margit or Hans
HAHN were deported there. Dates or places of birth are essential where the
family name is a common one.

Peter Lande Washington, D.C. <pdlande@starpower.net>


Re: What is "Lit" mentioned in Registers #germany

buckidstein@...
 

Gad Naumann asked: "While going through Registers received >from the
Staatsarchive Wurzburg and dated 1826 - 1873 and related to Damm (since 1901
integrated as a district into the city of Aschaffenburg, Bavaria), I see
references to apparently addresses', or rather house numbers, with ref to e.g.
Lit. 54.
What does the shortening of Lit. mean and what is the source of this word."

"Lit." is the abbreviation of the Latin word littera, which does not only
mean letter, but also document. This is the appropriate translation here. "Lit.
54" indicates that at the end of the volume or in a separate file the
document number 54 contains more information concerning this entry.

Gerhard Buck, Idstein, Germany buckidstein@aol.com


German SIG #Germany Re: What is "Lit" mentioned in Registers #germany

buckidstein@...
 

Gad Naumann asked: "While going through Registers received >from the
Staatsarchive Wurzburg and dated 1826 - 1873 and related to Damm (since 1901
integrated as a district into the city of Aschaffenburg, Bavaria), I see
references to apparently addresses', or rather house numbers, with ref to e.g.
Lit. 54.
What does the shortening of Lit. mean and what is the source of this word."

"Lit." is the abbreviation of the Latin word littera, which does not only
mean letter, but also document. This is the appropriate translation here. "Lit.
54" indicates that at the end of the volume or in a separate file the
document number 54 contains more information concerning this entry.

Gerhard Buck, Idstein, Germany buckidstein@aol.com


Re: Payment of gaz bills in Warsaw ghetto #poland

cordier alice <cordierlubinski@...>
 

Good Morning, everyone,

To answer Barbara, I have noticed you are researching the name LUBOWSKI
from Wloclawek. My father, Mojze LUBINSKI is born in 1900 in Wloclawek. He is
son of Ajzyk and Cypra Ruchla Kukla. Would it be possible that the name has
been wrongly translated by the Register Officer in France where he went
fleeing >from Poland and where I was born and live at the moment ? I would be
happy to tell more if you think this could be the case.
Any information about the Lubinski Family would be highly welcome.
Alice Lubinski Cordier


Warszawa Research Group #Warsaw #Poland Re:Payment of gaz bills in Warsaw ghetto #warsaw #poland

cordier alice <cordierlubinski@...>
 

Good Morning, everyone,

To answer Barbara, I have noticed you are researching the name LUBOWSKI
from Wloclawek. My father, Mojze LUBINSKI is born in 1900 in Wloclawek. He is
son of Ajzyk and Cypra Ruchla Kukla. Would it be possible that the name has
been wrongly translated by the Register Officer in France where he went
fleeing >from Poland and where I was born and live at the moment ? I would be
happy to tell more if you think this could be the case.
Any information about the Lubinski Family would be highly welcome.
Alice Lubinski Cordier


Re: tinyurl #austria-czech

Barbara S. Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 

As usual, Celia has come up with some good comments.

May I offer another?

I use the tinyurl, but also supply the original URL. That way the reader
can try to use the tinyurl, and if it does not work for him, then can fuss
with the original.

Barbara Mannlein
Tucson, AZ


bmsj.eu website #austria-czech

Vera Finberg <vera.finberg@...>
 

I agree with Frank Eisinger that the price of
bmsj is rather high. I got the same message and
declined to subscribe. I hope that any member who
does decide to subscribe, will report to the SIG
whether they found useful information. It
appeared to me, that so far there is more Moravian than Bohemian
information.

Vera Finberg
BONDY - Dolni Mesto/Lipnice, Vienna
FLUSS =96 Pribsylav & Polna, Czech Republic
THIEBEN- Rousinov/Rakovnik, Czech Republic
KOHNER - Vseruby, Czech Republic/Budapest/Vienna
SYNEK - Mlada Vozice, Czech Republic
ABELES - Luchovice, Czech Republic


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: Re:tinyurl #austria-czech

Barbara S. Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 

As usual, Celia has come up with some good comments.

May I offer another?

I use the tinyurl, but also supply the original URL. That way the reader
can try to use the tinyurl, and if it does not work for him, then can fuss
with the original.

Barbara Mannlein
Tucson, AZ


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech bmsj.eu website #austria-czech

Vera Finberg <vera.finberg@...>
 

I agree with Frank Eisinger that the price of
bmsj is rather high. I got the same message and
declined to subscribe. I hope that any member who
does decide to subscribe, will report to the SIG
whether they found useful information. It
appeared to me, that so far there is more Moravian than Bohemian
information.

Vera Finberg
BONDY - Dolni Mesto/Lipnice, Vienna
FLUSS =96 Pribsylav & Polna, Czech Republic
THIEBEN- Rousinov/Rakovnik, Czech Republic
KOHNER - Vseruby, Czech Republic/Budapest/Vienna
SYNEK - Mlada Vozice, Czech Republic
ABELES - Luchovice, Czech Republic


Joint distribution files #austria-czech

Vera Finberg <vera.finberg@...>
 

The major US commercial genealogy site (ancestry.com) has posted the Jewish refugee
files of the Joint Distribution committee >from Munich, Vienna and
Barcelona, 1943-1959 as part of it's free Jewish section. I found a
card for a family member travelling >from Vienna to Argentina in 1956.
When trying to get the actual image, I had to reduce the size to 50%
as there are 2 images per frame and at full size you only see the top
image. Mine was the one on the bottom. Another very helpful resource.

Vera Finberg
Fairfax, VA

THIEBEN- Rousinov/Rakovnik, Czech Republic
KOHNER - Vseruby, Czech Republic/Budapest/Vienna
STIEDRY - Golcuv Jenikov, Czech Republic
SYNEK - Mlada Vozice, Czech Republic
ABELES - Luchovice, Czech Republic
ROUBITCHEK - Stasov?, Czech Republic


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Joint distribution files #austria-czech

Vera Finberg <vera.finberg@...>
 

The major US commercial genealogy site (ancestry.com) has posted the Jewish refugee
files of the Joint Distribution committee >from Munich, Vienna and
Barcelona, 1943-1959 as part of it's free Jewish section. I found a
card for a family member travelling >from Vienna to Argentina in 1956.
When trying to get the actual image, I had to reduce the size to 50%
as there are 2 images per frame and at full size you only see the top
image. Mine was the one on the bottom. Another very helpful resource.

Vera Finberg
Fairfax, VA

THIEBEN- Rousinov/Rakovnik, Czech Republic
KOHNER - Vseruby, Czech Republic/Budapest/Vienna
STIEDRY - Golcuv Jenikov, Czech Republic
SYNEK - Mlada Vozice, Czech Republic
ABELES - Luchovice, Czech Republic
ROUBITCHEK - Stasov?, Czech Republic


Warsaw Gas Bills #warsaw #poland

smeschino@...
 

Hello

My family was >from Warsaw, so one would assume that their names would
be at least on a gas bill. Yet the only names I can find are in the
cemetery, without dates of death. The Warsaw Ghetto website has a Josek
Gutzach, but I have no idea who he was.

The specific names I am searching are Ita Krasnobroda who married
Pinchas Gutzac (Gutzatz) and their children, Nena, Eli, and Szlomo
(Szlama). Eli and Szlama served in the Polish army; I have photos of
them in uniform. The 2 youngest daughters, my mother Chaja (Helena)
Gutzac, born in 1921, and my aunt Saba Gutzac, escaped to Russia and
spent the war in the Ural mountains.

Any ideas?

Regards,

Sipora Hipszer Meschino


Warszawa Research Group #Warsaw #Poland Warsaw Gas Bills #warsaw #poland

smeschino@...
 

Hello

My family was >from Warsaw, so one would assume that their names would
be at least on a gas bill. Yet the only names I can find are in the
cemetery, without dates of death. The Warsaw Ghetto website has a Josek
Gutzach, but I have no idea who he was.

The specific names I am searching are Ita Krasnobroda who married
Pinchas Gutzac (Gutzatz) and their children, Nena, Eli, and Szlomo
(Szlama). Eli and Szlama served in the Polish army; I have photos of
them in uniform. The 2 youngest daughters, my mother Chaja (Helena)
Gutzac, born in 1921, and my aunt Saba Gutzac, escaped to Russia and
spent the war in the Ural mountains.

Any ideas?

Regards,

Sipora Hipszer Meschino