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On-line Ladino Website -- Ladinokomunita #sephardic

A & B Algaze <Algaze@...>
 

Ladinokomunita is a correspondence circle written in Ladino (Judeo-Spanish).
Topics center around Sephardic culture, history, and language, including:
reminiscences of Sephardic life in Turkey, the United States, Rhodes,
Salonica, or anywhere else in the world; Jewish holidays, customs,
superstitions, foods, quaint sayings and proverbs, differences in vocabulary
and pronunciation, origins of certain words, etc.; reports on aspects of
Ladino history and literature by researchers and knowlegeable members. This
is also a forum to announce programs and conferences relating to Ladino (or
other aspects of Sephardic culture), as well as books, dictionaries, Ladino
language courses, etc.

The purpose of the Ladinokomunita is to: 1. promote the use of Ladino; 2.
spread the use of a standardized method for spelling Ladino with Roman
characters; 3. ask and answer questions and share information regarding the
language, culture, history, and traditions of Sepharadim, and to discuss
other subjects of interest of concern to members.

Check it out at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ladinokomunita/
Barbara Algaze, Los Angeles, California, Algaze@ca.rr.com


Sephardic SIG #Sephardim On-line Ladino Website -- Ladinokomunita #sephardic

A & B Algaze <Algaze@...>
 

Ladinokomunita is a correspondence circle written in Ladino (Judeo-Spanish).
Topics center around Sephardic culture, history, and language, including:
reminiscences of Sephardic life in Turkey, the United States, Rhodes,
Salonica, or anywhere else in the world; Jewish holidays, customs,
superstitions, foods, quaint sayings and proverbs, differences in vocabulary
and pronunciation, origins of certain words, etc.; reports on aspects of
Ladino history and literature by researchers and knowlegeable members. This
is also a forum to announce programs and conferences relating to Ladino (or
other aspects of Sephardic culture), as well as books, dictionaries, Ladino
language courses, etc.

The purpose of the Ladinokomunita is to: 1. promote the use of Ladino; 2.
spread the use of a standardized method for spelling Ladino with Roman
characters; 3. ask and answer questions and share information regarding the
language, culture, history, and traditions of Sepharadim, and to discuss
other subjects of interest of concern to members.

Check it out at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ladinokomunita/
Barbara Algaze, Los Angeles, California, Algaze@ca.rr.com


Conflicting data #lithuania

"רוזן
 

Dear Sig Members:

Wishing you all a Hanukah sameach.

I am hoping that someone can help me solve a problem I have.

On Births in Kovno I found the following entry:

RASHKES, Yuda Ziskind born 1/12/1881 in Kovno.
Father : Yitschak son of Yuda
Mother : Shifre Rivke daughter of Kehat

I have photographs of the tombstone of RASKES, Shalom Yitschak >from the
Mount of Olives in Jerusalem where he was buried in 1935.
On his tombstone it shows that Shalom Yitschak RASEKES was the son of
Yosef Ruben. Alongside his grave his wife Shifra Rifka daughter of Kehat is
buried.

I have a family tree which shows that Shalom Yitschak and Shifra Rifka
had a son Yuda Ziskind born in 1882.
Yuda's grandchildren believe that the graves at the Mount of Olives are
those of their great grandparents.

So as you can see there is a conflict on the birth notice in the database
& the tombstone regarding Yuda Ziskind Rashkes's grandfather.

Does anyone perhaps know more about this family? Or can anyone help
explain the difference in grandfathers' names?

Thanks
Anat Rosen
Israel

Researching: RASHKES - Kaunas, RASHKES, SHULMAN - Janova, STEIN,
GOLDBERG, BER, SHER, NOL, DAVIDOVICIUS, LIURNERIS, FRIEDLANDER, - Seduva,
GOLDSHTEIN -Mariampol all >from Lithuania.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Conflicting data #lithuania

"רוזן
 

Dear Sig Members:

Wishing you all a Hanukah sameach.

I am hoping that someone can help me solve a problem I have.

On Births in Kovno I found the following entry:

RASHKES, Yuda Ziskind born 1/12/1881 in Kovno.
Father : Yitschak son of Yuda
Mother : Shifre Rivke daughter of Kehat

I have photographs of the tombstone of RASKES, Shalom Yitschak >from the
Mount of Olives in Jerusalem where he was buried in 1935.
On his tombstone it shows that Shalom Yitschak RASEKES was the son of
Yosef Ruben. Alongside his grave his wife Shifra Rifka daughter of Kehat is
buried.

I have a family tree which shows that Shalom Yitschak and Shifra Rifka
had a son Yuda Ziskind born in 1882.
Yuda's grandchildren believe that the graves at the Mount of Olives are
those of their great grandparents.

So as you can see there is a conflict on the birth notice in the database
& the tombstone regarding Yuda Ziskind Rashkes's grandfather.

Does anyone perhaps know more about this family? Or can anyone help
explain the difference in grandfathers' names?

Thanks
Anat Rosen
Israel

Researching: RASHKES - Kaunas, RASHKES, SHULMAN - Janova, STEIN,
GOLDBERG, BER, SHER, NOL, DAVIDOVICIUS, LIURNERIS, FRIEDLANDER, - Seduva,
GOLDSHTEIN -Mariampol all >from Lithuania.


Re: BenZion Kotler #lithuania

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

The best way to start research of this sort is to do the following:

Go to the home page of JewishGen. There you will find three
search boxes at the top of the page: Search for a Surname,
Search for a Town and Search Ancestry.com.
Using any of these options will provide you with a world of
information. When looking for the town, the spelling is:
Kupiskis.

Or, you can do the following individual searches which can be
also found on the JewishGen front page:

1. Register and check the listings on the JewishGen Family Finder (JGFF):
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/. You will find many people who are search
the same family names and towns that you are. They may be able to help you
locate information that you need.

2. Look for your family names or the town of Kupiskis in the All-Lithuania
Database: http://www.litvaksig.org/searchald.htm.

3. Search the shtetlinks site on JewishGen for Kupiskis:
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/kupiskis/kupishok.htm. There you will
find much information regarding the town as well as the families >from there.
This includes a section on the Holocaust and memorial which was established
in Kupiskis in 2004 and where there is a list of those killed:
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/kupiskis/death.htm.

Your Aunt Schore Kotler and Uncle Boruch Alperowitz are mentioned in the
Kupiskis records as well as their son Dowyd-Elieser Alperowitz, born 1921.
Unfortunately, they are not in the marriage records which would have told
what their home towns were. It is possible too that they may have not have
been married in Kupiskis. During the World War I period and afterwards,
there were many omissions or loss of vital records for the town. Also, they
are not mentioned in the Holocaust listing, although it is possible that
their names were missed by those compiling the listing, or they were not
living in Kupiskis in 1941 or they were killed elsewheres.

There is mention of Bencelis Kotleris, son of Dovydo and Cires-Lotos
Kotleris, 1854-1937, who died at age 83. There is also the death of his
daughter Gilda-Mikhlia Kotler, 1887-1894, age 7. The family was registered
in Ukmerge where you may find more records. There is a listing for a David
Leib KOTLIAR family there with a son Bunish and several other children in
the 1895 Census.

The name Cartoon is not a Kupiskis name and is found in other shtetls such
as Grudziai as well as in South Africa where many of the family settled.

4. You can also join a Jewish Genealogy Society where you live. The
members will assist you in learning how to research your family and very
often the Societies will have beginner or "newby" seminars to get you
started. You can find the names and locations of these societies on
JewishGen: http://www.jewishgen.org/JGS/. Or, on the International
Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies site:
http://www.iajgs.org/members/members.html

Good luck in your search!

Ann Rabinowitz
Coordinator, Kupiskis SIG
annrab@bellsouth.net


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania RE: BenZion Kotler #lithuania

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

The best way to start research of this sort is to do the following:

Go to the home page of JewishGen. There you will find three
search boxes at the top of the page: Search for a Surname,
Search for a Town and Search Ancestry.com.
Using any of these options will provide you with a world of
information. When looking for the town, the spelling is:
Kupiskis.

Or, you can do the following individual searches which can be
also found on the JewishGen front page:

1. Register and check the listings on the JewishGen Family Finder (JGFF):
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/. You will find many people who are search
the same family names and towns that you are. They may be able to help you
locate information that you need.

2. Look for your family names or the town of Kupiskis in the All-Lithuania
Database: http://www.litvaksig.org/searchald.htm.

3. Search the shtetlinks site on JewishGen for Kupiskis:
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/kupiskis/kupishok.htm. There you will
find much information regarding the town as well as the families >from there.
This includes a section on the Holocaust and memorial which was established
in Kupiskis in 2004 and where there is a list of those killed:
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/kupiskis/death.htm.

Your Aunt Schore Kotler and Uncle Boruch Alperowitz are mentioned in the
Kupiskis records as well as their son Dowyd-Elieser Alperowitz, born 1921.
Unfortunately, they are not in the marriage records which would have told
what their home towns were. It is possible too that they may have not have
been married in Kupiskis. During the World War I period and afterwards,
there were many omissions or loss of vital records for the town. Also, they
are not mentioned in the Holocaust listing, although it is possible that
their names were missed by those compiling the listing, or they were not
living in Kupiskis in 1941 or they were killed elsewheres.

There is mention of Bencelis Kotleris, son of Dovydo and Cires-Lotos
Kotleris, 1854-1937, who died at age 83. There is also the death of his
daughter Gilda-Mikhlia Kotler, 1887-1894, age 7. The family was registered
in Ukmerge where you may find more records. There is a listing for a David
Leib KOTLIAR family there with a son Bunish and several other children in
the 1895 Census.

The name Cartoon is not a Kupiskis name and is found in other shtetls such
as Grudziai as well as in South Africa where many of the family settled.

4. You can also join a Jewish Genealogy Society where you live. The
members will assist you in learning how to research your family and very
often the Societies will have beginner or "newby" seminars to get you
started. You can find the names and locations of these societies on
JewishGen: http://www.jewishgen.org/JGS/. Or, on the International
Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies site:
http://www.iajgs.org/members/members.html

Good luck in your search!

Ann Rabinowitz
Coordinator, Kupiskis SIG
annrab@bellsouth.net


Basic Genealogy Course is full #usa

phylliskramer1 <phylliskramer1@...>
 

The January class is full; the response was immediate and
overwhelming; thankyou.
If you wish to be put on an early registration list for the
April 1 class, please send an email to
JewishGen-Education@lyris.jewishgen.org
--
Phyllis Kramer
VP, Education, JewishGen, Inc.


Early American SIG #USA Basic Genealogy Course is full #usa

phylliskramer1 <phylliskramer1@...>
 

The January class is full; the response was immediate and
overwhelming; thankyou.
If you wish to be put on an early registration list for the
April 1 class, please send an email to
JewishGen-Education@lyris.jewishgen.org
--
Phyllis Kramer
VP, Education, JewishGen, Inc.


Visit to Aschaffenburg - Pogromnacht #germany

Werner Hirsch
 

The city of Aschaffenburg (Bavaria) invited all of its former Jewish
residents to return for a program marking the 70th anniversary of
Pogromnacht (Crystal Night).

I have recently returned >from that trip and have prepared a short video
of my experiences. If you would like to see it, click here:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7445017828300528826&hl=en

I would welcome any comments that you have.

Werner Hirsch New Haven, CT wernerh@snet.net [New GerSIG member]


German SIG #Germany Visit to Aschaffenburg - Pogromnacht #germany

Werner Hirsch
 

The city of Aschaffenburg (Bavaria) invited all of its former Jewish
residents to return for a program marking the 70th anniversary of
Pogromnacht (Crystal Night).

I have recently returned >from that trip and have prepared a short video
of my experiences. If you would like to see it, click here:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7445017828300528826&hl=en

I would welcome any comments that you have.

Werner Hirsch New Haven, CT wernerh@snet.net [New GerSIG member]


Researcher recommendation needed #galicia

Richard Gussow
 

Hi,

I would like to get recommendations for a researcher to research my
family records in Galicia - specifically, Ranizow, near Lezensk.

Thanks,

Richard Gussow
Modiin, Israel

Searching for: Engelberg, Feit, Reich, Gussow, Gusov

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please reply privately.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Researcher recommendation needed #galicia

Richard Gussow
 

Hi,

I would like to get recommendations for a researcher to research my
family records in Galicia - specifically, Ranizow, near Lezensk.

Thanks,

Richard Gussow
Modiin, Israel

Searching for: Engelberg, Feit, Reich, Gussow, Gusov

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please reply privately.


Fw: h-sig digest: December 17, 2008 #hungary

Mordechai David Pelta
 

Is it just me, or is there a very eery silence about the Jews of Northern Transylvania among researchers on this listserv, despite the fact most Jews living in this region considered themselves to be Hungarians, not Romanians, and this area did not become part of Romania til after WWI.

I have seen nothing about them in 6 months on this listserve and there were a good 300,000 of them, if I am correct.

Mordechai Pelta
San Francisco, California

Moderator: Please include a descriptive subject line with all messages.


Basic Genealogy Course is full #hungary

phylliskramer1 <phylliskramer1@...>
 

The January class is full; the response was immediate and
overwhelming; thankyou.
If you wish to be put on an early registration list for the
April 1 class, please send an email to
JewishGen-Education@lyris.jewishgen.org
--
Phyllis Kramer
VP, Education, JewishGen, Inc.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Fw: h-sig digest: December 17, 2008 #hungary

Mordechai David Pelta
 

Is it just me, or is there a very eery silence about the Jews of Northern Transylvania among researchers on this listserv, despite the fact most Jews living in this region considered themselves to be Hungarians, not Romanians, and this area did not become part of Romania til after WWI.

I have seen nothing about them in 6 months on this listserve and there were a good 300,000 of them, if I am correct.

Mordechai Pelta
San Francisco, California

Moderator: Please include a descriptive subject line with all messages.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Basic Genealogy Course is full #hungary

phylliskramer1 <phylliskramer1@...>
 

The January class is full; the response was immediate and
overwhelming; thankyou.
If you wish to be put on an early registration list for the
April 1 class, please send an email to
JewishGen-Education@lyris.jewishgen.org
--
Phyllis Kramer
VP, Education, JewishGen, Inc.


Re: Hungarian deportation list #hungary

g_hirsch@...
 

To my knowledge the Nevek series is edited by Gavriel Bar Shaked to the founders
belongs also the former H-SIG moderator Louis Schonfield and it is published by
the Beate and Serge Klarsfeld foundation. Some of the Nevek series like >from Hajdu
and Bekes county is the Jewish census. According an order (issued shortly after
the German occupation on 19. March 1944) in the beginning of April, instructed all
Jewish organizations to prepare a list in four copies and to present it in a short
time. The majority of the census were destroyed some of them survived the war.
This was the case of the five counties (Bekes, Bihar, Csanad, Hajdu and Szolnok)
belonged to Debrecen gendarmerie district VI. and deportation zone IV. Short time
ago Vivian draw our attention to the list of Nyiregyhaza.

Some of the data in http://www.neveklarsfeld.org/ list originates >from this Jewish
census. It appears on the top Record >from deportation list and in my case
the reference is given as BEKES DEPORTATION list, but it was acknowledged in mid
April about 4 weeks before concentration in Jewish houses, 8 weeks before the
Ghetto was established and 12 weeks before the deportation took place on 26. June
1944. I could verify it by some family dates, there are two errors in the list, we
lived in Gyoni Geza 22 and not 18, and my mothers name was Ella and not Etel.
Several persons in the list were not deported, but drawn into military forced
labor battalion, like my father Janos and uncle Sandor, several person committed
suicide in the Ghetto and are still listed, others escaped and lived in hiding. So
in my opinion the name deportation list is incorrect, they were possible deportees
as there destiny was KZ, forced labor camp etc. but the list was prepared much
earlier as the deportation was made. To my knowledge there are no deportation or
transport list for the Hungarian deportees or they were destroyed.

Best regards
Gabor Hirsch
Switzerland

-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Datum: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:15:50 -0500
Von: "Henry Wellisch" <henry.kelwel@gmail.com>
An: "H-SIG" <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
CC: PACKARD40@aol.com
Betreff: [h-sig] Hungarian deportation list
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I received an important message >from Mr.? Marshall regarding the
website (http://www.neveklarsfeld.org/) of the famous couple of
Holocaust researchers Serge and Beate Klarsfeld, who published many
years ago the deportation lists >from France, Belgium, various lists of
Hungarian labor batallions and a lists of deportees >from several
Hungarian counties.
The website has a searchable database and I immediately found the name
of my aunt Sarolta Wellisch, who survived in Budapest. However I did
not find the name of her daughter Marta, who unfortunately perished.
Does anyone know more about the sources for this website?

Henry Wellisch
Toronto


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Hungarian deportation list #hungary

g_hirsch@...
 

To my knowledge the Nevek series is edited by Gavriel Bar Shaked to the founders
belongs also the former H-SIG moderator Louis Schonfield and it is published by
the Beate and Serge Klarsfeld foundation. Some of the Nevek series like >from Hajdu
and Bekes county is the Jewish census. According an order (issued shortly after
the German occupation on 19. March 1944) in the beginning of April, instructed all
Jewish organizations to prepare a list in four copies and to present it in a short
time. The majority of the census were destroyed some of them survived the war.
This was the case of the five counties (Bekes, Bihar, Csanad, Hajdu and Szolnok)
belonged to Debrecen gendarmerie district VI. and deportation zone IV. Short time
ago Vivian draw our attention to the list of Nyiregyhaza.

Some of the data in http://www.neveklarsfeld.org/ list originates >from this Jewish
census. It appears on the top Record >from deportation list and in my case
the reference is given as BEKES DEPORTATION list, but it was acknowledged in mid
April about 4 weeks before concentration in Jewish houses, 8 weeks before the
Ghetto was established and 12 weeks before the deportation took place on 26. June
1944. I could verify it by some family dates, there are two errors in the list, we
lived in Gyoni Geza 22 and not 18, and my mothers name was Ella and not Etel.
Several persons in the list were not deported, but drawn into military forced
labor battalion, like my father Janos and uncle Sandor, several person committed
suicide in the Ghetto and are still listed, others escaped and lived in hiding. So
in my opinion the name deportation list is incorrect, they were possible deportees
as there destiny was KZ, forced labor camp etc. but the list was prepared much
earlier as the deportation was made. To my knowledge there are no deportation or
transport list for the Hungarian deportees or they were destroyed.

Best regards
Gabor Hirsch
Switzerland

-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Datum: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:15:50 -0500
Von: "Henry Wellisch" <henry.kelwel@gmail.com>
An: "H-SIG" <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
CC: PACKARD40@aol.com
Betreff: [h-sig] Hungarian deportation list
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I received an important message >from Mr.? Marshall regarding the
website (http://www.neveklarsfeld.org/) of the famous couple of
Holocaust researchers Serge and Beate Klarsfeld, who published many
years ago the deportation lists >from France, Belgium, various lists of
Hungarian labor batallions and a lists of deportees >from several
Hungarian counties.
The website has a searchable database and I immediately found the name
of my aunt Sarolta Wellisch, who survived in Budapest. However I did
not find the name of her daughter Marta, who unfortunately perished.
Does anyone know more about the sources for this website?

Henry Wellisch
Toronto


Basic Genealogy Course is full #yizkorbooks

phylliskramer1 <phylliskramer1@...>
 

The January class is full; the response was immediate and
overwhelming; thankyou.
If you wish to be put on an early registration list for the
April 1 class, please send an email to
JewishGen-Education@lyris.jewishgen.org
--
Phyllis Kramer
VP, Education, JewishGen, Inc.


Yizkor Books #YizkorBooks Basic Genealogy Course is full #yizkorbooks

phylliskramer1 <phylliskramer1@...>
 

The January class is full; the response was immediate and
overwhelming; thankyou.
If you wish to be put on an early registration list for the
April 1 class, please send an email to
JewishGen-Education@lyris.jewishgen.org
--
Phyllis Kramer
VP, Education, JewishGen, Inc.