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Re: finding a bible #general

DonnDevine@...
 

Rose:

If, as often happens when someone dies, the bible was thrown out along with
other treasured family papers and photos, the cause is, of course, hopeless.

Sometimes, however, such treasures will have been rescued by a relative
with a sense of family. Finding that person requires a careful search for
all the descendants, if any, and collateral relatives of the person who had
the things, followed by inquiries to them, starting with those most likely
to have been present at or near the time of her death.

Without a family record >from the bible, the search for Aunt Jessie's
relatives will be more difficult, but can be pursued using family
recollections, city and telephone directories, vital records, 1920 and
earlier US censuses (1930 beginning next April), wills and deeds, and
similar modern records, many of which are available in large cpublic
libraries, and also through local Mormon Family History Centers. This is
how I eventually located four family bibles, one of which was given to me
along with portraits of some of my great-grandparents, and I obtained
photocopies or transcripts >from the other bibles.

In copying bible records, always get a copy also of the title and copyright
pages. This helps determine the earliest date at which the family record
was entered, helping separate entries made at the time an event took place
(usually very reliable) >from those copied >from an earlier record (and
therefore subject to errors in interpretation or copying).

Donn Devine
Wilmington Delaware

----------Original Message-------------------
Subject: Re: finding a bible
From: RAROSE10@...
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 23:50:21 EST

My aunt jessie Rosenstein had a bible in which she wrote in. At that
time I was not interested in genealogy and did not think about it until
tonight. I believe that she died abt 25 years ago. I would like to find
that bible now. I suspect that it is sort of late to get it back but I
am hoping that some one might be so kind as to find it for me or tell me
how to go abt searching for it. She lived in Chatham A south side district
of Chicago, Illinois. I am lame now and do not have a car.

Rose Hoffman
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: finding a bible #general

DonnDevine@...
 

Rose:

If, as often happens when someone dies, the bible was thrown out along with
other treasured family papers and photos, the cause is, of course, hopeless.

Sometimes, however, such treasures will have been rescued by a relative
with a sense of family. Finding that person requires a careful search for
all the descendants, if any, and collateral relatives of the person who had
the things, followed by inquiries to them, starting with those most likely
to have been present at or near the time of her death.

Without a family record >from the bible, the search for Aunt Jessie's
relatives will be more difficult, but can be pursued using family
recollections, city and telephone directories, vital records, 1920 and
earlier US censuses (1930 beginning next April), wills and deeds, and
similar modern records, many of which are available in large cpublic
libraries, and also through local Mormon Family History Centers. This is
how I eventually located four family bibles, one of which was given to me
along with portraits of some of my great-grandparents, and I obtained
photocopies or transcripts >from the other bibles.

In copying bible records, always get a copy also of the title and copyright
pages. This helps determine the earliest date at which the family record
was entered, helping separate entries made at the time an event took place
(usually very reliable) >from those copied >from an earlier record (and
therefore subject to errors in interpretation or copying).

Donn Devine
Wilmington Delaware

----------Original Message-------------------
Subject: Re: finding a bible
From: RAROSE10@...
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 23:50:21 EST

My aunt jessie Rosenstein had a bible in which she wrote in. At that
time I was not interested in genealogy and did not think about it until
tonight. I believe that she died abt 25 years ago. I would like to find
that bible now. I suspect that it is sort of late to get it back but I
am hoping that some one might be so kind as to find it for me or tell me
how to go abt searching for it. She lived in Chatham A south side district
of Chicago, Illinois. I am lame now and do not have a car.

Rose Hoffman
New Krakow Project #galicia

wg <wg@...>
 

Here is some exciting news about a new Krakow project.

An order has been placed to photocopy indices of Krakow records
not previously microfilmed by the Mormons. The indices for the
following types/years are being copied:

Births: 1855-1867 and 1890-1899
Marriages: 1852-1876 and 1889-1899
Deaths: 1855

Because the Krakow records are in Polish/German, the data entry
will be done by volunteers - not the JRI-Poland data entry team
in Warsaw that normally does the work on the Cyrillic records.

Now volunteers are needed! Help us with data entry so that
these indices can be posted to the Jewish Records Indexing -
Poland on-line database. If you have never worked on a project
such as this, now is the time to try. Novices are definitely
welcome as volunteers and I can assure you that you will get
all the help you need.

This is the first phase of the project. The second phase will
be the data entry by the Archivist in Krakow - for those years
that do not have index pages.

To volunteer to do data entry or if you have any questions,
please contact:

Judie Ostroff Goldstein
wg@...
Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia New Krakow Project #galicia

wg <wg@...>
 

Here is some exciting news about a new Krakow project.

An order has been placed to photocopy indices of Krakow records
not previously microfilmed by the Mormons. The indices for the
following types/years are being copied:

Births: 1855-1867 and 1890-1899
Marriages: 1852-1876 and 1889-1899
Deaths: 1855

Because the Krakow records are in Polish/German, the data entry
will be done by volunteers - not the JRI-Poland data entry team
in Warsaw that normally does the work on the Cyrillic records.

Now volunteers are needed! Help us with data entry so that
these indices can be posted to the Jewish Records Indexing -
Poland on-line database. If you have never worked on a project
such as this, now is the time to try. Novices are definitely
welcome as volunteers and I can assure you that you will get
all the help you need.

This is the first phase of the project. The second phase will
be the data entry by the Archivist in Krakow - for those years
that do not have index pages.

To volunteer to do data entry or if you have any questions,
please contact:

Judie Ostroff Goldstein
wg@...
reflection on family research #general

Sara Lynns
 

sad to say, I have yet to
a) connect up with family or
b) find information beyond research I've already done

going to NARA has worked best for me. However, I
don't know how many subscribers there ar eon
Jewishgen.
I would really welcome finding paternal relatives.

Here goes again:
Samuel H. Lerner (born 1907 NY); brother, Charles,
sister Sara; parents Meyer and Golde (emigrated to US
from Russia in 1904).
if you know or are aware of any family:
Lerner (above), Abraham Wenger (emigrated US;
naturalized 1919) or Sara (Lerner) Schulman - married
name born 1905 NY

Todah!

Jacqueline Lerner-Aderman
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen reflection on family research #general

Sara Lynns
 

sad to say, I have yet to
a) connect up with family or
b) find information beyond research I've already done

going to NARA has worked best for me. However, I
don't know how many subscribers there ar eon
Jewishgen.
I would really welcome finding paternal relatives.

Here goes again:
Samuel H. Lerner (born 1907 NY); brother, Charles,
sister Sara; parents Meyer and Golde (emigrated to US
from Russia in 1904).
if you know or are aware of any family:
Lerner (above), Abraham Wenger (emigrated US;
naturalized 1919) or Sara (Lerner) Schulman - married
name born 1905 NY

Todah!

Jacqueline Lerner-Aderman
Bialystok vital records #general

Arthur Blutstein <meandart@...>
 

Since JRI-Poland has completed all indexing >from 1835 through 1898 and has
no plans to go further, the records for years 1899 to about 1943 are kept in
the local records offices--the USC's. (The earlier records were in the
Polish State Archives & various branches).

I am interested in obtaining the addresses of these offices and is anyone
familiar with the process & various fees & problems involved in obtaining
the records??

Many thanks,
Art Blutstein
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Bialystok vital records #general

Arthur Blutstein <meandart@...>
 

Since JRI-Poland has completed all indexing >from 1835 through 1898 and has
no plans to go further, the records for years 1899 to about 1943 are kept in
the local records offices--the USC's. (The earlier records were in the
Polish State Archives & various branches).

I am interested in obtaining the addresses of these offices and is anyone
familiar with the process & various fees & problems involved in obtaining
the records??

Many thanks,
Art Blutstein
TCHERKOSKI #general

vangheluwe <vangheluwe-smietan@...>
 

Bonjour,

This message is a try to find descendants or relatives to Louis TCHERKOSKI
( or TCHERKOVSKY or CZERECHOWSKI) probably >from Warsaw, living as
business-traveller in Paris Vaugirard 15ème in 1933.

Daniel Vangheluwe
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen TCHERKOSKI #general

vangheluwe <vangheluwe-smietan@...>
 

Bonjour,

This message is a try to find descendants or relatives to Louis TCHERKOSKI
( or TCHERKOVSKY or CZERECHOWSKI) probably >from Warsaw, living as
business-traveller in Paris Vaugirard 15ème in 1933.

Daniel Vangheluwe
Re: finding a bible #general

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

Being housebound should not stop someone >from locating information they
require about their family . . . you can easily become an armchair
genealogist!!!

Try the following:

1. Contact your Aunt Jessie's children or grandchildren, if she had any.
They would be the ones who would probably have her bible.

2. If she had no children, I would determine what happened to her husband
and then what happened to his effects when he passed away.

3. If she had no husband, I would find out who was the executor of her
estate, perhaps one of her siblings or a niece or nephew. You would
probably get an indication of this by who is listed on her death
certificate. They or their children could then direct you to the
whereabouts of her belongings, if they still exist. You can also get a
copy of your Aunt's will if she had one and this will give the disposition
of her belongings.

If all this fails to bring forth the elusive bible, consider it lost.
However, your quest to locate the information contained in the bible is not
finished. You can reconstruct that information by making contacts via
e-mail, telephone, or mail.

The first thing you should do is sign up for the JGFF on JewishGen and then
speak to all of your oldest living relatives. Determine where the family
originated in Europe. Follow this up by obtaining all the records you can
obtain >from State and local jurisdictions where your family lived in
America. Contact information can be easily found on the Internet or by
calling the appropriate agencies.

InfoFiles on doing research are to be found on JewishGen and you can always
contact your locale library for assistance. Many libraries are now on-line
and actual records are on-line too for free such as the Ellis Island
Database, some as subscriptions such as the 1900 U.S. Census, and a number
of them such as the 1910 U.S. Census can be obtained on CD-ROM or
microfiche >from various sources. This means that researchers are no longer
restricted by lack of access to information located in places far >from
their home.

Arrange to go to a Jewish Genealogical Society meeting in your area.
Usually, you can gain insight into doing your research >from other members
and take advantage of the JGS's library. Perhaps one of the members can
pick you up and take you to the meeting. If this is not possible, there
are special taxis in many parts of the U.S. to help handicapped individuals
go to their appointments.

So, as you see, your situation should not limit your research capabilities.

Good luck!

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: finding a bible #general

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

Being housebound should not stop someone >from locating information they
require about their family . . . you can easily become an armchair
genealogist!!!

Try the following:

1. Contact your Aunt Jessie's children or grandchildren, if she had any.
They would be the ones who would probably have her bible.

2. If she had no children, I would determine what happened to her husband
and then what happened to his effects when he passed away.

3. If she had no husband, I would find out who was the executor of her
estate, perhaps one of her siblings or a niece or nephew. You would
probably get an indication of this by who is listed on her death
certificate. They or their children could then direct you to the
whereabouts of her belongings, if they still exist. You can also get a
copy of your Aunt's will if she had one and this will give the disposition
of her belongings.

If all this fails to bring forth the elusive bible, consider it lost.
However, your quest to locate the information contained in the bible is not
finished. You can reconstruct that information by making contacts via
e-mail, telephone, or mail.

The first thing you should do is sign up for the JGFF on JewishGen and then
speak to all of your oldest living relatives. Determine where the family
originated in Europe. Follow this up by obtaining all the records you can
obtain >from State and local jurisdictions where your family lived in
America. Contact information can be easily found on the Internet or by
calling the appropriate agencies.

InfoFiles on doing research are to be found on JewishGen and you can always
contact your locale library for assistance. Many libraries are now on-line
and actual records are on-line too for free such as the Ellis Island
Database, some as subscriptions such as the 1900 U.S. Census, and a number
of them such as the 1910 U.S. Census can be obtained on CD-ROM or
microfiche >from various sources. This means that researchers are no longer
restricted by lack of access to information located in places far >from
their home.

Arrange to go to a Jewish Genealogical Society meeting in your area.
Usually, you can gain insight into doing your research >from other members
and take advantage of the JGS's library. Perhaps one of the members can
pick you up and take you to the meeting. If this is not possible, there
are special taxis in many parts of the U.S. to help handicapped individuals
go to their appointments.

So, as you see, your situation should not limit your research capabilities.

Good luck!

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...
Sicily's Jewish community #general

Alexandra Vozick Hans <vozick@...>
 

I will be traveling to Sicily this February and would like to be able to
research the Jewish community of Palermo, as well as other cities in Sicily.
My family would like to attend Shabbos services while we are there. Could
anyone tell me how to find out if where the Jewish community is in Sicily?
Thank you so much. I realize that this is outside of the traditional
postings, but would appreciate any information. You can email me privately,
vozick@....
Thank you,
Alexandra VOZICK HANS
Searching:
VOZICK, WOZIK,VALEDNITZKY, MILLMAN, SORKIN,KAZAN, CHAZAN,HUBERGRITZ
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Sicily's Jewish community #general

Alexandra Vozick Hans <vozick@...>
 

I will be traveling to Sicily this February and would like to be able to
research the Jewish community of Palermo, as well as other cities in Sicily.
My family would like to attend Shabbos services while we are there. Could
anyone tell me how to find out if where the Jewish community is in Sicily?
Thank you so much. I realize that this is outside of the traditional
postings, but would appreciate any information. You can email me privately,
vozick@....
Thank you,
Alexandra VOZICK HANS
Searching:
VOZICK, WOZIK,VALEDNITZKY, MILLMAN, SORKIN,KAZAN, CHAZAN,HUBERGRITZ
JGSCT needs Vol.1&2 of Migration #general

marciarthur <marciarthur@...>
 

Greetings,
Because of the loss of Vol.1 & Vol.2 of the Migration >from the Russian
Empire, the JGS of Connecticut is seeking to replace these out of print
volumes. If any has information where the JGSCT might locate these volumes
please let me know.
Please answer privately,

Marcia Indianer Meyers
JGSCT Librarian
marciarthur@...
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGSCT needs Vol.1&2 of Migration #general

marciarthur <marciarthur@...>
 

Greetings,
Because of the loss of Vol.1 & Vol.2 of the Migration >from the Russian
Empire, the JGS of Connecticut is seeking to replace these out of print
volumes. If any has information where the JGSCT might locate these volumes
please let me know.
Please answer privately,

Marcia Indianer Meyers
JGSCT Librarian
marciarthur@...
Berman - London UK to Philadelphia #general

Shirley Collier <Shirley.Collier@...>
 

This is my first time of posting to this list although some of this
information was posted a few years ago on my behalf.

My grandfather's brother, Ariel Berman died in London in 1911, aged 36.
Some time later his widow left London for Philadelphia to stay with her
brother (family name believed to be Gross). Her two sons, Ben and Barney
(around 14 years old) went with her. Then her oldest daughter, Miriam
went, followed by the youngest, Cissie.. I believe that one of the sons
became a surgeon in the second world war. I am hoping that someone can
recognise this information.

Many thanks and best wishes.
Shirley COLLIER

Researching: BIERMAN/BERMAN (Piaski/Russia-Poland/Philadelphia);
HARRIS/HARISCH (Sheratz);
ROZAINSKY/WAPNAISH (Rozan/Czestachova) and TILLES/TRINKENREICH
(Krakow/Tarnow)
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Berman - London UK to Philadelphia #general

Shirley Collier <Shirley.Collier@...>
 

This is my first time of posting to this list although some of this
information was posted a few years ago on my behalf.

My grandfather's brother, Ariel Berman died in London in 1911, aged 36.
Some time later his widow left London for Philadelphia to stay with her
brother (family name believed to be Gross). Her two sons, Ben and Barney
(around 14 years old) went with her. Then her oldest daughter, Miriam
went, followed by the youngest, Cissie.. I believe that one of the sons
became a surgeon in the second world war. I am hoping that someone can
recognise this information.

Many thanks and best wishes.
Shirley COLLIER

Researching: BIERMAN/BERMAN (Piaski/Russia-Poland/Philadelphia);
HARRIS/HARISCH (Sheratz);
ROZAINSKY/WAPNAISH (Rozan/Czestachova) and TILLES/TRINKENREICH
(Krakow/Tarnow)
Re: Russian zionists #general

Stephen G. Esrati <stevsta@...>
 

The British certificate system began after they issued the infamous White
Paper. In 1929, anyone could come.

Ruth Hyman wrote:
Dear Genners,
My mother's first cousin, Yizhak Persits, was a Bundist and Zionist and
was exiled to Kopalshevo, Siberia in 1926 for his activities. Through
connections he was granted clemency but on condition that he leave the
country immediately.The only place for such a Jew to go was Palestine, so
he and his family left for Palestine in 1929. I don't know anything about
certificates >from Russia but do know that they had to have British
entrance documents.
Ruth Hyman
Rockville Centre, NY
Stephen G. Esrati
Shaker Heights, OH
Stone different than death certificate #general

marciarthur <marciarthur@...>
 

Greetings,
I have a mystery. My cousin's father died when she was 3 yrs. old in 1935.
She just got the death certificate which had the location of the burial. We
went to the cemetery, Mt. Hebron in Flushing, and although the tombstone had
her father's name on it - the stone also had her father's mother's maiden
name on the stone also the age on the death certificate differed >from the
stone by ten years. Any clues to the reason? She knows nothing of her
father's family.

Thanks,
Marcia Indianer Meyers
marciarthur@...
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