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Re: Sowalki #poland

Willie46@...
 

Dear Henry:

The AGAD project is one of many Polish State Archives (PSA)
projects that have commenced to index the vital records of the
branch archives of the PSA. The AGAD Archives in Warsaw
houses vital records >from the eastern portion of the former
Austrian province of Galicia. This territory is now in Ukraine
but was part of Poland between the Wars, 1921-1939.

There is a separate project to index the holdings (not previously
microfilmed by the LDS Church) of the Suwalki branch of the
PSA. For more information on this project and the name of the
Archive coordinator please see the Suwalki Archive webpage at
<http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/psa/psasuwalki.htm>.

There are also indices for towns in Suwalki Gubernia (including
the town of Suwalki) that were prepared >from the LDS Microfilms.

For more information on the availability of index entries for towns
in Suwalki Gubernia, you should search the Contents of the
Database page at <http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/jripldat.htm>.
This page is organized alphabetically by town and the Gubernia
of the town is identified in the second column. Look for "SU" in the
second column which denotes that town is in Suwalki Gubernia.

Mark Halpern
AGAD Archive Coordinator

Are there any AGAD records for Sowalki area? (Also does Marijyampol -
Lithuania have any records?)
If so where do I find them?
I would be grateful if you could put me in the right direction


Drzewica #poland

Michel Heyman <mheyman@...>
 

It has been sometime since I did any research in Poland. Reocrds for
Drzewica are not apparently available through JRI-PSA and/or through LDS.
However, records for Drewica are available at the PSA. I have approximately
five surnames to research at the PSA branch in Radom. What are the latest
means for requesting these records on the Web if any? Must we still write
directly to the PSA or can this be done through "Sezam". If the research
can be done through "Sezam" how do you request a blanket search by surname?
Thank you for any input.


Re: AGAD search #poland

Willie46@...
 

Can someone please tell me how I get >from the JRI-AGAD index to the film
number? I found ancestors listed in the AGAD index. They are listed in
the
index for the town of Nadworna, Galicia, Ukraine, Fond 300 in AGAD Archive.
Unlike Poland indexes, no film numbers are given. What do I do next?
Dear Aliza:

JRI-Poland has two major sources for its records. The first is
LDS films, where the index entry and the search results
summary at the bottom of your search results page show the
Film Number where you can find those records.

The second source is directly >from the branch office of the
Polish State Archives. These are for records that have not been
filmed by the LDS. All AGAD indices are sourced directly >from
the AGAD branch of the Polish State Archives as the AGAD
records were never filmed by the LDS. Please see
<http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/psa/psastat.htm> for more
explanation of the Polish State Archives Projects.

All the Nadworna records that show an index entry can be
ordered >from AGAD for $11 each through the JRI-Poland
processing system. After searching, you will get a page with
your search results. Copy all the information contained in the
index entries that are of interest to you. Then scroll to the bottom
of the page, where you will see a box with two columns --
"Datafile" and "(LDS Films / contact information)". In the left
column you will see Nadworna births or deaths. Click the
hyperlink "Click here for more information" on the right. Read
the instruction in the web pages that follow and then click
"ORDER FORM."

Now fill out the order form with the information requested,
including the index information for those records you wish to
order. When complete, click "Create order form." Print out form,
write a check and send it to the address on top of the form.

If you have any additional questions, please do not hesitate to
write.

Mark Halpern
AGAD Archives Coordinator


Re: Janow, Poland (near Czestochowa) #poland

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

Hi Daniel and others,
=20
I wonder what your take is on this: For decades I was under the impressio=
n
that my grandparents (maternal) were >from Yanow in what is now Poland. Th=
en
about 3 years ago, while living in the Detroit area where there is a larg=
e
Polish population, I was told that there are/were numerous cities/towns n=
amed
Yanow, and based on our discussion of the geography and that one of my
relatives was >from Rymanow, it was likely that they were >from Yanow Lubel=
ski.
Since that discussion I have been unable to find any further information.=
Do
you have any knowledge of Yanow vs. Yanow Lubelski?

Yes, I do have a lot of information on this city. First, note that "Yanow"
is actually "Janow." Next, note the LDS films listings for "Janow":

Janow KA B 1863-1882 1,646,267 =A0
Janow KA BMD 1880/1888 1,646,268 =A0
Janow Lubelski LU BMD 1883-1887 1,808,843 =A0
Janow Podlaski LU BMD 1826-1839 807,766 DO
Janow Podlaski LU BMD 1840-1843 807,767 DO
Janow Podlaski LU BMD 1844-1865 807,768 DO
Janow Podlaski LU BMD 1866-1869 937,498 LA
Janow Podlaski LU BMD 1855/1877 1,496,625 =A0

These listings suggest that there are Jewish 3 Janows. (In fact, there are
many other Janows--but not Jewish Janows!)

Next, note the results for "Janow" at JewishGen's FamilyFinder:

http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/jgffweb.htm

You will find these:

Janow Lubelski Poland
Janow Podlaski Poland
Janow Sokolski Poland
Janow Poland

There are, then, 3 or 4 different "Janows." Just plain "Janow," however,
refers to the Janow that is near Czestochowa, Zarki, Mstow, Lelow, and
Przyrow, here:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0828.pol-map2.jpg

And it was this Janow which I was referring to in my earlier message.

A listing of surnames in the PSA records for this Janow may be found here:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/1107.czesto.html

Also, you should be able to locate the other Janows here:

http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/

Dan

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@mail.wittenberg.edu>
Professor of Music / Wittenberg University / Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland: Czestochowa-Przyrow-Mstow-Janow-Plawno-Radomsko-Piotrkow-Zgierz)
TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK, BRODA
and ZYLBERBERG
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/englander/


JRI Poland #Poland Re: Sowalki #poland

Willie46@...
 

Dear Henry:

The AGAD project is one of many Polish State Archives (PSA)
projects that have commenced to index the vital records of the
branch archives of the PSA. The AGAD Archives in Warsaw
houses vital records >from the eastern portion of the former
Austrian province of Galicia. This territory is now in Ukraine
but was part of Poland between the Wars, 1921-1939.

There is a separate project to index the holdings (not previously
microfilmed by the LDS Church) of the Suwalki branch of the
PSA. For more information on this project and the name of the
Archive coordinator please see the Suwalki Archive webpage at
<http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/psa/psasuwalki.htm>.

There are also indices for towns in Suwalki Gubernia (including
the town of Suwalki) that were prepared >from the LDS Microfilms.

For more information on the availability of index entries for towns
in Suwalki Gubernia, you should search the Contents of the
Database page at <http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/jripldat.htm>.
This page is organized alphabetically by town and the Gubernia
of the town is identified in the second column. Look for "SU" in the
second column which denotes that town is in Suwalki Gubernia.

Mark Halpern
AGAD Archive Coordinator

Are there any AGAD records for Sowalki area? (Also does Marijyampol -
Lithuania have any records?)
If so where do I find them?
I would be grateful if you could put me in the right direction


JRI Poland #Poland Drzewica #poland

Michel Heyman <mheyman@...>
 

It has been sometime since I did any research in Poland. Reocrds for
Drzewica are not apparently available through JRI-PSA and/or through LDS.
However, records for Drewica are available at the PSA. I have approximately
five surnames to research at the PSA branch in Radom. What are the latest
means for requesting these records on the Web if any? Must we still write
directly to the PSA or can this be done through "Sezam". If the research
can be done through "Sezam" how do you request a blanket search by surname?
Thank you for any input.


JRI Poland #Poland Re: AGAD search #poland

Willie46@...
 

Can someone please tell me how I get >from the JRI-AGAD index to the film
number? I found ancestors listed in the AGAD index. They are listed in
the
index for the town of Nadworna, Galicia, Ukraine, Fond 300 in AGAD Archive.
Unlike Poland indexes, no film numbers are given. What do I do next?
Dear Aliza:

JRI-Poland has two major sources for its records. The first is
LDS films, where the index entry and the search results
summary at the bottom of your search results page show the
Film Number where you can find those records.

The second source is directly >from the branch office of the
Polish State Archives. These are for records that have not been
filmed by the LDS. All AGAD indices are sourced directly >from
the AGAD branch of the Polish State Archives as the AGAD
records were never filmed by the LDS. Please see
<http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/psa/psastat.htm> for more
explanation of the Polish State Archives Projects.

All the Nadworna records that show an index entry can be
ordered >from AGAD for $11 each through the JRI-Poland
processing system. After searching, you will get a page with
your search results. Copy all the information contained in the
index entries that are of interest to you. Then scroll to the bottom
of the page, where you will see a box with two columns --
"Datafile" and "(LDS Films / contact information)". In the left
column you will see Nadworna births or deaths. Click the
hyperlink "Click here for more information" on the right. Read
the instruction in the web pages that follow and then click
"ORDER FORM."

Now fill out the order form with the information requested,
including the index information for those records you wish to
order. When complete, click "Create order form." Print out form,
write a check and send it to the address on top of the form.

If you have any additional questions, please do not hesitate to
write.

Mark Halpern
AGAD Archives Coordinator


JRI Poland #Poland Re: Janow, Poland (near Czestochowa) #poland

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

Hi Daniel and others,
=20
I wonder what your take is on this: For decades I was under the impressio=
n
that my grandparents (maternal) were >from Yanow in what is now Poland. Th=
en
about 3 years ago, while living in the Detroit area where there is a larg=
e
Polish population, I was told that there are/were numerous cities/towns n=
amed
Yanow, and based on our discussion of the geography and that one of my
relatives was >from Rymanow, it was likely that they were >from Yanow Lubel=
ski.
Since that discussion I have been unable to find any further information.=
Do
you have any knowledge of Yanow vs. Yanow Lubelski?

Yes, I do have a lot of information on this city. First, note that "Yanow"
is actually "Janow." Next, note the LDS films listings for "Janow":

Janow KA B 1863-1882 1,646,267 =A0
Janow KA BMD 1880/1888 1,646,268 =A0
Janow Lubelski LU BMD 1883-1887 1,808,843 =A0
Janow Podlaski LU BMD 1826-1839 807,766 DO
Janow Podlaski LU BMD 1840-1843 807,767 DO
Janow Podlaski LU BMD 1844-1865 807,768 DO
Janow Podlaski LU BMD 1866-1869 937,498 LA
Janow Podlaski LU BMD 1855/1877 1,496,625 =A0

These listings suggest that there are Jewish 3 Janows. (In fact, there are
many other Janows--but not Jewish Janows!)

Next, note the results for "Janow" at JewishGen's FamilyFinder:

http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/jgffweb.htm

You will find these:

Janow Lubelski Poland
Janow Podlaski Poland
Janow Sokolski Poland
Janow Poland

There are, then, 3 or 4 different "Janows." Just plain "Janow," however,
refers to the Janow that is near Czestochowa, Zarki, Mstow, Lelow, and
Przyrow, here:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0828.pol-map2.jpg

And it was this Janow which I was referring to in my earlier message.

A listing of surnames in the PSA records for this Janow may be found here:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/1107.czesto.html

Also, you should be able to locate the other Janows here:

http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/

Dan

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@mail.wittenberg.edu>
Professor of Music / Wittenberg University / Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland: Czestochowa-Przyrow-Mstow-Janow-Plawno-Radomsko-Piotrkow-Zgierz)
TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK, BRODA
and ZYLBERBERG
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/englander/


Baron de Hirsh colonies #ukraine

Dorothy Kohanski <dkohanski@...>
 

I noted Moshe Davis' item on the Digest regarding
Argentina Baron De Hirsh colony. My family went to
the one he established in North Dakota (Dakota
Territory then) - Painted Woods. There was also one,
I think, at or near Fargo, North Dakota. I am still
trying to find out where in Russia they came from. I
am going to list the names of the colonists, as far as
I have them >from information on the drawing of the
"Wechsler Russian Jewish Immgrant FArm at Painted
Woods" - appearing in many places including a book by
Abba Eban.
In addition to my ancestors, Solomon and Levi Isaac
DILLER (DELLAR), there were: Abraham and J. AXELROD
(he seemed to be one of the leaders), B, BARON, N.
BROMBERG, N. COHEN, B. J. and M DORFMAN, David DUBIVER
(married into my family), J. FUCHE, A and J GALE or
GALL, Louis GERSTMAN (married into my family), Hyman,
David and J. GOLDSTEIN, Baruch HECHTMAN, Barnett
ISRAEL, Nachum and Simon KATZ, A and Joeph KARTMAN
(married into my family), N. and A. KJOSOFSKY, N, G
and J LEVIFANSKY, M. MARCULES, G. and M. NUDELMAN (a
NUDELMAN was the organizer and leader of the group and
even had the post office names for him for a time)
Simon ROGWOL, J. ROGOWOL (same name?), Moses and S.
STEINMAN, J and L. SHENK and Abraham WOLF.
The information is >from the American JewishArchives.
If these names are familiar to anyone in the group and
you know the town(s) they came >from in the Ukraine or
any other data, I would love to know. I am stuck at
trying to find where the DILLER family came from. One
daughter remained in Russia for a time - married to
Hirsh RUBENSTEIN and after he died to Isaac SAVRANSKY
and she and Isaac joined her father and brothers in
St. Paul for a time and they all went west to Oregon
and Washington after the colony died.
Apparently few of the agricultural settlements were
successful

Dorothy Dellar Kohanski


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Baron de Hirsh colonies #ukraine

Dorothy Kohanski <dkohanski@...>
 

I noted Moshe Davis' item on the Digest regarding
Argentina Baron De Hirsh colony. My family went to
the one he established in North Dakota (Dakota
Territory then) - Painted Woods. There was also one,
I think, at or near Fargo, North Dakota. I am still
trying to find out where in Russia they came from. I
am going to list the names of the colonists, as far as
I have them >from information on the drawing of the
"Wechsler Russian Jewish Immgrant FArm at Painted
Woods" - appearing in many places including a book by
Abba Eban.
In addition to my ancestors, Solomon and Levi Isaac
DILLER (DELLAR), there were: Abraham and J. AXELROD
(he seemed to be one of the leaders), B, BARON, N.
BROMBERG, N. COHEN, B. J. and M DORFMAN, David DUBIVER
(married into my family), J. FUCHE, A and J GALE or
GALL, Louis GERSTMAN (married into my family), Hyman,
David and J. GOLDSTEIN, Baruch HECHTMAN, Barnett
ISRAEL, Nachum and Simon KATZ, A and Joeph KARTMAN
(married into my family), N. and A. KJOSOFSKY, N, G
and J LEVIFANSKY, M. MARCULES, G. and M. NUDELMAN (a
NUDELMAN was the organizer and leader of the group and
even had the post office names for him for a time)
Simon ROGWOL, J. ROGOWOL (same name?), Moses and S.
STEINMAN, J and L. SHENK and Abraham WOLF.
The information is >from the American JewishArchives.
If these names are familiar to anyone in the group and
you know the town(s) they came >from in the Ukraine or
any other data, I would love to know. I am stuck at
trying to find where the DILLER family came from. One
daughter remained in Russia for a time - married to
Hirsh RUBENSTEIN and after he died to Isaac SAVRANSKY
and she and Isaac joined her father and brothers in
St. Paul for a time and they all went west to Oregon
and Washington after the colony died.
Apparently few of the agricultural settlements were
successful

Dorothy Dellar Kohanski


Re: Ukraine to Argentina 1890 #ukraine

Harriet Brown <hnbrown@...>
 

Dear David and everyone,

If you're looking into the South Jersey Baron de Hirsch colonies, I would
recommend a book called Immigrants to Freedom: Jewish Communities in Rural
New Jersey Since 1882, by Joseph Brandes (University of Pennsylvania Press:
1971). The NJ colonies were much different than the Argentina ones, though,
by what I know.

My great-grandparents, Benjamin and Basha BRUCHANSKY, came >from Priluki,
near Kiev, to Carmel, New Jersey, in 1904. They were later joined by
cousins >from the DOLGIN family, >from the same general area of the Ukraine.

I am still trying to find out what became of my great-great-grandfather,
Israel or Ilka BRUCHANSKY, who emigrated with them and disappeared sometime
between 1904 and 1910. And I'm still searching for the grave of my
great-grandfather, Benjamin, who committed suicide in 1916 in Philadelphia.

Regards,

Harriet Brown
Madison, WI
(formerly Pennsauken, NJ)
Researching: BRUCHANSKY, BRAHINSKY, BROWN, Priluki, Ukraine--> Carmel, NJ
--> Camden, Philadelphia
KHAZANOVICH, Priluki, Ukraine
TANTLEFSKY, Priluki, Ukraine
SCHNEURSOHN, Priluki, Ukraine


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Ukraine to Argentina 1890 #ukraine

Harriet Brown <hnbrown@...>
 

Dear David and everyone,

If you're looking into the South Jersey Baron de Hirsch colonies, I would
recommend a book called Immigrants to Freedom: Jewish Communities in Rural
New Jersey Since 1882, by Joseph Brandes (University of Pennsylvania Press:
1971). The NJ colonies were much different than the Argentina ones, though,
by what I know.

My great-grandparents, Benjamin and Basha BRUCHANSKY, came >from Priluki,
near Kiev, to Carmel, New Jersey, in 1904. They were later joined by
cousins >from the DOLGIN family, >from the same general area of the Ukraine.

I am still trying to find out what became of my great-great-grandfather,
Israel or Ilka BRUCHANSKY, who emigrated with them and disappeared sometime
between 1904 and 1910. And I'm still searching for the grave of my
great-grandfather, Benjamin, who committed suicide in 1916 in Philadelphia.

Regards,

Harriet Brown
Madison, WI
(formerly Pennsauken, NJ)
Researching: BRUCHANSKY, BRAHINSKY, BROWN, Priluki, Ukraine--> Carmel, NJ
--> Camden, Philadelphia
KHAZANOVICH, Priluki, Ukraine
TANTLEFSKY, Priluki, Ukraine
SCHNEURSOHN, Priluki, Ukraine


PENZUR #ukraine

DGittel863@...
 

Dear Genners:
I am searching for my maternal grandmother's family, PENZUR,
who came >from a town near Ekatrinoslav to Philadelphia in or around 1905.
I think they travelled through Liverpool, but I'm not sure. I know all of
the current Philadelphia PENZURS who are cousins. Does anyone have any
information about other PENZURS >from the Ukraine. Also, the name of the
town, translated into English, was "Little hands that reach out and grab
things." Does anyone have any idea what the Russian or Ukrainian name was?
I'd appreciate any inforamtion. Also searching AXELROD, BOOKBINDER, AND
LIPSKY, >from Belarus or Ukraine.

Thank you.

Diana Gittelman,
New YOrk, N.Y.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine PENZUR #ukraine

DGittel863@...
 

Dear Genners:
I am searching for my maternal grandmother's family, PENZUR,
who came >from a town near Ekatrinoslav to Philadelphia in or around 1905.
I think they travelled through Liverpool, but I'm not sure. I know all of
the current Philadelphia PENZURS who are cousins. Does anyone have any
information about other PENZURS >from the Ukraine. Also, the name of the
town, translated into English, was "Little hands that reach out and grab
things." Does anyone have any idea what the Russian or Ukrainian name was?
I'd appreciate any inforamtion. Also searching AXELROD, BOOKBINDER, AND
LIPSKY, >from Belarus or Ukraine.

Thank you.

Diana Gittelman,
New YOrk, N.Y.


Sharogrod in the Ukraine, Gibany or Ghibanu in Moldova #general

Arnett <arnett1@...>
 

Has anyone ever heard of Gibany or Ghibanu? It is 75 miles SE of Kishinev in
Moldova. How about Sharagrod in the Ukraine.
Thanks,
Lisa Arnett


Maps of Poland #general

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Here is a great site for getting detailed maps of todays Poland:
http://www.pilot.pl/
Enjoy


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Sharogrod in the Ukraine, Gibany or Ghibanu in Moldova #general

Arnett <arnett1@...>
 

Has anyone ever heard of Gibany or Ghibanu? It is 75 miles SE of Kishinev in
Moldova. How about Sharagrod in the Ukraine.
Thanks,
Lisa Arnett


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Maps of Poland #general

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Here is a great site for getting detailed maps of todays Poland:
http://www.pilot.pl/
Enjoy


Re: Ukraine to Argentina 1890 #ukraine

Margarita and Keith Silver <mksilver@...>
 

There is another good book containing both the general information on
Jewish immigration to Argentina and some information on the colonies --
"Argentina and the Jews: A History of Jewish Immigration", by Haim Avni,
ISBN 0-8173-0554-8. Yet another one (that I have not read yet but it's
the next on my list) is "The Jewish Gauchos of the Pampas", by Alberto
Gerchunoff, ISBN 0-8263-1767-7. I ordered both >from bn.com.

Margarita Gokun Silver
Argentina
Reseraching: GORDON, GOKUN

Original Message
From: "David Breau" <davebreau@rcn.com> writes in part:

Hello,

On the topic of the JCA and Baron Hirsch's agricultural settlements,
there is a book that is quite detailed regarding the Jewish Agricultural
Settlements of Southern New Jersey at the turn of the century, the sister
communities of the Argenitine settlements. The book is called "Jewish
Agricultural Colonies in New Jersey 1882-1920" by Ellen Eisenberg
(ISBN 0-8156-2663-0). My great grandparents, Nathan and Celia Rigberg,
settled in one of these, Woodbine NJ.

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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Ukraine to Argentina 1890 #ukraine

Margarita and Keith Silver <mksilver@...>
 

There is another good book containing both the general information on
Jewish immigration to Argentina and some information on the colonies --
"Argentina and the Jews: A History of Jewish Immigration", by Haim Avni,
ISBN 0-8173-0554-8. Yet another one (that I have not read yet but it's
the next on my list) is "The Jewish Gauchos of the Pampas", by Alberto
Gerchunoff, ISBN 0-8263-1767-7. I ordered both >from bn.com.

Margarita Gokun Silver
Argentina
Reseraching: GORDON, GOKUN

Original Message
From: "David Breau" <davebreau@rcn.com> writes in part:

Hello,

On the topic of the JCA and Baron Hirsch's agricultural settlements,
there is a book that is quite detailed regarding the Jewish Agricultural
Settlements of Southern New Jersey at the turn of the century, the sister
communities of the Argenitine settlements. The book is called "Jewish
Agricultural Colonies in New Jersey 1882-1920" by Ellen Eisenberg
(ISBN 0-8156-2663-0). My great grandparents, Nathan and Celia Rigberg,
settled in one of these, Woodbine NJ.

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