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Re: Father and son #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

"Thank you for all the wonderful answers. I've received a ton of mail that
brings up three possibilities:

1. Sephardic family (common to name kids after parents).
2. Son born after father's death.
3. Father's name was in reality Abram ben (son of) Shmuel but he was called
Abram Shmuel for short.

Unfortunately all three of these answers don't fit in in this case."

2 other possibilities than the 3 you mention:

1. Western Europeans-if they were of Western European origin, then that is
normal.
2. A double name is not the same as a single name, so the 2 names are
different. Abraham Samuel is not the same as Abraham or Samuel by itself.

Sally Bruckheimer
Albany, NY


David DaCOSTA known as Godfrey YATES died 1944 Liverpool UK #general

BIRDEILEEN334 <birdeileen334@...>
 

I am looking for the burial place of David DaCosta better known as Godfrey
Yates. He died in Liverpool on 16th February 1944 as a result of an accident
which occured on the 22nd January. He was in collision with a taxi cab
during a black out in Mount Pleasant near to Rodney Street. At the time of
his death his address was XX Sugnal Street Liverpool UK

Eileen Bird
England


Doris LEVY Liverpool UK 1944 #general

BIRDEILEEN334 <birdeileen334@...>
 

I would dearly love to hear >from any one who has information on Doris Levy.
In 1944 she lived at Greek Street Liverpool UK and worked as a waitress in a
cafe. Doris was a close friend of one of my relatives

Eileen Bird
England


Re: Search Engine #galicia

Tami Ramsey <tami@...>
 

**Thank you** Debbie for suggesting the search engine below.....
You may want to check out the Vivisimo search engine at
http://vivisimo.com/
Because of your willingness to share you have just broken down my wall of 20
years....I now know that my PILITOWSKI family came >from Poland in 1900 and
1903.....not 1905 as everyone had sworn to for years....Thank you...Thank
you...Thank you....This list happens to be, in my opinion, one of the most
informative and knowledgeable.
Tami Ramsey
Dublin, VA USA


Freilich's Bakery in NYC 1930-40s #general

D. Abrams <dabrams1@...>
 

Hi,

Do any Genner's remember Freilich's Bakery in NYC (probably the
Bronx)?

I am trying to establish leads to lost Freilich relatives who
owned this bakery.

If you have any information about the bakery or the family who
owned it please reply privately.

Many thanks,

Dena Abrams
Merrick, NY

Searching for FREILICH >from Jezierna, Galicia now Ozernaya, Ukraine


Re: Father and son sharing a name #general

Harold Lewin <harmir@...>
 

I agree that the improbability of a living Ashkenazic father and his son
sharing the same name is a popular misconception. While indexing the
marriage registers of the old London Ashkenazic synagogues, well over 4
percent of the 4,400 marriages (covering the period 1792-1860) so far
indexed are in this category. In these cases the son (groom) either has the
given name of the (living) father as his first given name or, in many cases,
the son or daughter (groom or bride) has the first given name of the
(non-deceased) father as his or her middle (second given) name. Thus we have
the anomaly of many brides who have as their middle name such names as
Abraham, David, Nathan or Moses. Harold Lewin in Jerusalem.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Father and son #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

"Thank you for all the wonderful answers. I've received a ton of mail that
brings up three possibilities:

1. Sephardic family (common to name kids after parents).
2. Son born after father's death.
3. Father's name was in reality Abram ben (son of) Shmuel but he was called
Abram Shmuel for short.

Unfortunately all three of these answers don't fit in in this case."

2 other possibilities than the 3 you mention:

1. Western Europeans-if they were of Western European origin, then that is
normal.
2. A double name is not the same as a single name, so the 2 names are
different. Abraham Samuel is not the same as Abraham or Samuel by itself.

Sally Bruckheimer
Albany, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen David DaCOSTA known as Godfrey YATES died 1944 Liverpool UK #general

BIRDEILEEN334 <birdeileen334@...>
 

I am looking for the burial place of David DaCosta better known as Godfrey
Yates. He died in Liverpool on 16th February 1944 as a result of an accident
which occured on the 22nd January. He was in collision with a taxi cab
during a black out in Mount Pleasant near to Rodney Street. At the time of
his death his address was XX Sugnal Street Liverpool UK

Eileen Bird
England


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Doris LEVY Liverpool UK 1944 #general

BIRDEILEEN334 <birdeileen334@...>
 

I would dearly love to hear >from any one who has information on Doris Levy.
In 1944 she lived at Greek Street Liverpool UK and worked as a waitress in a
cafe. Doris was a close friend of one of my relatives

Eileen Bird
England


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Search Engine #general

Tami Ramsey <tami@...>
 

**Thank you** Debbie for suggesting the search engine below.....
You may want to check out the Vivisimo search engine at
http://vivisimo.com/
Because of your willingness to share you have just broken down my wall of 20
years....I now know that my PILITOWSKI family came >from Poland in 1900 and
1903.....not 1905 as everyone had sworn to for years....Thank you...Thank
you...Thank you....This list happens to be, in my opinion, one of the most
informative and knowledgeable.
Tami Ramsey
Dublin, VA USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Freilich's Bakery in NYC 1930-40s #general

D. Abrams <dabrams1@...>
 

Hi,

Do any Genner's remember Freilich's Bakery in NYC (probably the
Bronx)?

I am trying to establish leads to lost Freilich relatives who
owned this bakery.

If you have any information about the bakery or the family who
owned it please reply privately.

Many thanks,

Dena Abrams
Merrick, NY

Searching for FREILICH >from Jezierna, Galicia now Ozernaya, Ukraine


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Father and son sharing a name #general

Harold Lewin <harmir@...>
 

I agree that the improbability of a living Ashkenazic father and his son
sharing the same name is a popular misconception. While indexing the
marriage registers of the old London Ashkenazic synagogues, well over 4
percent of the 4,400 marriages (covering the period 1792-1860) so far
indexed are in this category. In these cases the son (groom) either has the
given name of the (living) father as his first given name or, in many cases,
the son or daughter (groom or bride) has the first given name of the
(non-deceased) father as his or her middle (second given) name. Thus we have
the anomaly of many brides who have as their middle name such names as
Abraham, David, Nathan or Moses. Harold Lewin in Jerusalem.


obituraries on the internet #general

Harold Greenberg <harold.greenberg@...>
 

Obituaries on the internet
http://www.rootsweb.com/~obituary/
http://www.obituariestoday.com

Seems to be an emphasis on Canadian obituaries.

Zvi Greenberg
Eilat, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen obituraries on the internet #general

Harold Greenberg <harold.greenberg@...>
 

Obituaries on the internet
http://www.rootsweb.com/~obituary/
http://www.obituariestoday.com

Seems to be an emphasis on Canadian obituaries.

Zvi Greenberg
Eilat, Israel


1930 Federal Census #general

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 

The 1930 Federal Census will be available to the public come April. If you
want to prepare yourselves to research it efficiently, it would be
worthwhile to study the information in this URL:

http://www.nara.gov/genealogy/1930cen.html

According to information >from Robert Regan in his free February issue of
"Treasure Maps", the 1930 census asked a variety of 32 questions about each
person!

Martha LEVINSON Lev-Zion, Ph.D. in Israel
Researching: FELDMANN, [Goldingen, Latvia], LEVINSON [Goldingen, Latvia]
LIEBERTHAL, HIM[M]ELHOCH [Latvia, worldwide],POTZDAMMER [worldwide]
ROTHSCHILD [Bruck/Erlangen and Altenschoenbach, Franconia, Bavaria]
LEVOR/LEFOR [Barchfeld a.m.Werra, Germany; worldwide]
BERNET, HIMMELREICH [Frensdorf, Bamberg, Franconia, Bavaria]
STRAUS[S] [Hesse-Darmstadt, Germany]


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 1930 Federal Census #general

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 

The 1930 Federal Census will be available to the public come April. If you
want to prepare yourselves to research it efficiently, it would be
worthwhile to study the information in this URL:

http://www.nara.gov/genealogy/1930cen.html

According to information >from Robert Regan in his free February issue of
"Treasure Maps", the 1930 census asked a variety of 32 questions about each
person!

Martha LEVINSON Lev-Zion, Ph.D. in Israel
Researching: FELDMANN, [Goldingen, Latvia], LEVINSON [Goldingen, Latvia]
LIEBERTHAL, HIM[M]ELHOCH [Latvia, worldwide],POTZDAMMER [worldwide]
ROTHSCHILD [Bruck/Erlangen and Altenschoenbach, Franconia, Bavaria]
LEVOR/LEFOR [Barchfeld a.m.Werra, Germany; worldwide]
BERNET, HIMMELREICH [Frensdorf, Bamberg, Franconia, Bavaria]
STRAUS[S] [Hesse-Darmstadt, Germany]


Re: R' Aryeh Leib ROKEACH #rabbinic

NFatouros@...
 

For his wife's sake, Jewishgenner Michael Chen is also interested
in the ROKEACH genealogy. I have occasionally sent him whatever
information I have come across during my own research, but usually
he has responded that he had alread known about whomever I have
mentioned! His email address is: ogenchen@netvision.net.il


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com

Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev;
FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;
SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM,
Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: R' Aryeh Leib ROKEACH #rabbinic

NFatouros@...
 

For his wife's sake, Jewishgenner Michael Chen is also interested
in the ROKEACH genealogy. I have occasionally sent him whatever
information I have come across during my own research, but usually
he has responded that he had alread known about whomever I have
mentioned! His email address is: ogenchen@netvision.net.il


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com

Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev;
FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;
SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM,
Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


Re: Father and son sharing a name #general

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

The following is my experience with name sharing.

Sometimes what you find on a tombstone does not actually reflect what the
person's name was originally. Remember, the tombstone and death certificate
are the responsibility of children or other relatives or even non-relatives
who may not know the correct information at the time of death or enough
genealogical information to understand the why's of certain names or who the
person was named for.

An example is my father whose name was William Samuel or Shmuel Velvel and
my grandfather who was Samuel or Shmuel. At the time of death, the rabbi
questioned how my father could have the same name as his father. My mother
certainly did not know and neither did I at the time.

My interest was piqued and I began to search for a reason. Interviewing
relatives and searching through numerous American and Lithuanian civil and
other records, I finally came to know how this came about.

1. My grandmother's maternal grandfather was named Shmuel and my father was
named after him and not his father Samuel/Shmuel. In fact, my father's
middle name Velvel was his paternal grandfather's name and my father was
known by the anglicized version of that name, William or Bill. This avoided
both he and his father being called Shmuel.

2. Further, my grandfather was known as Samuel/Shmuel in America, but was
actually known as Shloime in Lithuania which turned out to be the same name
as my grandmother's father Shloime Dovid who was still alive at the time my
father was born. My great grandfather was known as Dovid and my grandfather
was known as Shmuel thereby avoiding a conflict in being called by the same
name.

3. There are no Lithuanian records which show what my grandfather's full
name was. For all I know, Shmuel/Shloime was his middle name. For record
purposes, all the men in my family put their middle name as the name they
were known by which was a common practice.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


Need lookup of NYC obit before 1943 #general

RAROSE10@...
 

I realize that for an obit you need death date which I do not have-only
name and that she preceeded him in death. I need a look up for NYC for a
Feige(Fannie) Hoffman who preceeded Hyman Hoffman in death. According to
Hymans death certificate, he died in 1943 in Manhattan. They had six
children-Louis,Abraham,Benjamin,Irving,Harry and Anna
Please help me.

Rose Hoffman