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1910 Chicago Census Question #general

Tami Ramsey <tami@...>
 

I've been searching for the better part of today for an answer to a census
question....maybe a few of the experts out there can help me.
In the 1920 Chicago census I found my Grandfather in Enumeration district
1656 (bounded by W. Cornelia, N. Crawford Ave., Belmont Ave. and N. Keeler
Ave.)
In the 1910 Census it looks as if Ward 27 might be the same area but I
haven't been able to find them. They lived on Redvale Avenue, which I have
found to be also mispelled as Kedvale.
Do any of the expierienced census readers out there know if I am in the
right area for 1910? The wards and districts don't seem to be the same
during the ten year break. Any help greatly appreciated.
Tami Ramsey
Dublin, Virginia USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 1910 Chicago Census Question #general

Tami Ramsey <tami@...>
 

I've been searching for the better part of today for an answer to a census
question....maybe a few of the experts out there can help me.
In the 1920 Chicago census I found my Grandfather in Enumeration district
1656 (bounded by W. Cornelia, N. Crawford Ave., Belmont Ave. and N. Keeler
Ave.)
In the 1910 Census it looks as if Ward 27 might be the same area but I
haven't been able to find them. They lived on Redvale Avenue, which I have
found to be also mispelled as Kedvale.
Do any of the expierienced census readers out there know if I am in the
right area for 1910? The wards and districts don't seem to be the same
during the ten year break. Any help greatly appreciated.
Tami Ramsey
Dublin, Virginia USA


Re: Father and son #general

cfpottins2 <cfpottins2@...>
 

This query has made me think of something that hadn't previously struck me.
My Dad's birth certificate gives his father's name as Samuel. But my Dad's
younger brother was also called Samuel. This does not seem to fit the
Ashkenazi custom of calling children after a grandparent, but my Dad's
father was >from Poland, and his mother was also Ashkenazi.
I seem to remember also seeing a document with my Dad's name as "David
Samuel Pottins".
If people had originally been called something like "X ben Y Z", e.g. "Chaim
ben Yankel Poznansky", combining a Jewish traditional naming with another
surname, >from place or occupation, this might have been adopted to drop the
'ben' and make the father's name a middle name - so my dad could be 'David
(ben)Samuel Pottins", his younger brother could also be Something
(ben)Samuel Pottins, and if they wanted, especially as my grandpa died while
the sons were young, the latter might drop the first name afterwards, and
simply be known as Sam, or Shmulik, as he was.
(This does not explain why the third brother was called "Victor Isadore
Pottins" but I'm working on this!)
Can't think how I became a Charlie, but my middle name is Franklyn, due I
was told to my grandmother being Fanny and me being born in 1942 when a
certain American president was popular over here. Which is a totally
irrelevant piece of information. .

Charles Pottins
(barmitzvah as Chaim Ben David)


Re: Unusual given names from Polish/Ukranian area #general

Ted Margulis <tmargulis@...>
 

Hello Carol: In August, 1994 I found and visited the wife of my half
brother who had been living in Berdichev, Ukraine until he died in 1990.
Her name was Bronislava and was known as Brauna. She was Jewish and
recently died.

Warm Regards,
Ted Margulis
http://jewishwebindex.com
tmargulis@dc.rr.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Father and son #general

cfpottins2 <cfpottins2@...>
 

This query has made me think of something that hadn't previously struck me.
My Dad's birth certificate gives his father's name as Samuel. But my Dad's
younger brother was also called Samuel. This does not seem to fit the
Ashkenazi custom of calling children after a grandparent, but my Dad's
father was >from Poland, and his mother was also Ashkenazi.
I seem to remember also seeing a document with my Dad's name as "David
Samuel Pottins".
If people had originally been called something like "X ben Y Z", e.g. "Chaim
ben Yankel Poznansky", combining a Jewish traditional naming with another
surname, >from place or occupation, this might have been adopted to drop the
'ben' and make the father's name a middle name - so my dad could be 'David
(ben)Samuel Pottins", his younger brother could also be Something
(ben)Samuel Pottins, and if they wanted, especially as my grandpa died while
the sons were young, the latter might drop the first name afterwards, and
simply be known as Sam, or Shmulik, as he was.
(This does not explain why the third brother was called "Victor Isadore
Pottins" but I'm working on this!)
Can't think how I became a Charlie, but my middle name is Franklyn, due I
was told to my grandmother being Fanny and me being born in 1942 when a
certain American president was popular over here. Which is a totally
irrelevant piece of information. .

Charles Pottins
(barmitzvah as Chaim Ben David)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Unusual given names from Polish/Ukranian area #general

Ted Margulis <tmargulis@...>
 

Hello Carol: In August, 1994 I found and visited the wife of my half
brother who had been living in Berdichev, Ukraine until he died in 1990.
Her name was Bronislava and was known as Brauna. She was Jewish and
recently died.

Warm Regards,
Ted Margulis
http://jewishwebindex.com
tmargulis@dc.rr.com


Re: Father and son sharing a name #general

Jacob D. Goldstein <jake@...>
 

At 01:30 PM 2/17/02 Harold Lewin wrote:
I agree that the improbability of a living Ashkenazic father and his son
sharing the same name is a popular misconception. While indexing the
marriage registers of the old London Ashkenazic synagogues, well over 4
percent of the 4,400 marriages (covering the period 1792-1860) so far
indexed are in this category.
You would certainly expect some exceptions to the rule than an
Ashkenazi Jew would not name a child after a living relative, but
the figure of 4% is probably *much* too high. This statistic is
biased by the demographics of the sample. The capital of the
British Empire was a cosmopolitan city. Jews with roots in
Amsterdam lived alongside Jews >from Frankfurt-on-Main (and
alongside non-Jews). Sephardic Jews living in neighborhoods having
Ashkenazi majorities would surely have tried to maintain their
proud traditions and identity.

Jake Goldstein
Boston, Massachusetts


American Jewish Yearbook Indexes... #general

Rosanne D. Leeson <leeson1@...>
 

Further to the quite correct post of Jeremy Frankel, regarding the New
York Times Obituary Indexes, and his reference to the American Jewish
Yearbook, I would like to remind all Jewishgenners that among the
Databases available on the Jewishgen site is one for the American Jewish
Yearbook Obituary Index, 1948-1998!

Rosanne Leeson
--
Rosanne Leeson
Los Altos, CA USA
Leeson1@attglobal.net

MODERATOR NOTE: This database can be found at
<http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/ajybweb.htm>.


Seek data for father who entered US twice #general

AviDov@...
 

My dad,z"l immigrated in the late summer of 1914 >from Russia and
Oct./Nov.1919,after his discharge >from the Jewish Legion of the British
Army, in then Palestine

I am sure of the time frames,but not the embarkation or arrival ports. He
always lived in Northern New Jersey,so I might assume he came through New
York. My EIDB search was unsuccessful,so I need to try other entry points.

Often it depended on when ships and space were available and it may be
Boston, or Phila. or Baltimore. How do I begin searching those
manifests,etc. ?. Abe Nutkis


In Memory of Phyllis Goldberg #general

Shelley K. Pollero
 

Today we mourn the loss of our dear friend, Phyllis Goldberg.

The Jewish genealogy community will very much miss Phyllis Goldberg, whose
commitment and dedication to Gesher Galicia, JewishGen, JGS of Greater
Washington, and the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum were extraordinary. She
worked ceaselessly to document and archive information about Galicia,
especially Kolbuszowa and Mielec, her ancestral towns. Some of her
accomplishments are located on the Yizkor Book Translations Project on
JewishGen.

Always placing others before herself, even as she suffered, Phyllis made
Heroic efforts in support and care of her young grandson, who suffers from
Fanconi Anemia. As Phyllis focused her waning energies on her grandson and
the fight against this genetic disease that preoccupied her for several
years, she continued to volunteer her efforts in support of Jewish
genealogy. For more information about Fanconi Anemia Research, go to
www.fanconi.org

If you may wish to make contributions in memory of Phyllis Goldberg, please
consider the following:

-JewishGen Wall of Honor
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/Honors0.html

-JewishGen Yizkor Book Translations General Fund
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/YizkorTrans.ihtml

Upon learning that Phyllis would soon lose her battle against melanoma, I
was able to salute her in my Coordinator Column of The Galitzianer (Winter
2002) newsletter.

Her funeral will be held on Monday, February 18 at 2:00 p.m. at Har Shalom
in Potomac, Maryland. Shiva will follow Monday through Thursday at the
Goldberg residence. Additional details are in the Sunday (today) Washington
Post (D.C.) newspaper.

For further information about funeral and Shiva arrangements, write to me
privately. Phyllis' home address is in the Gesher Galicia Family Finder; or
you may contact me.

With great sorrow,

Shelley
--
Shelley K. Pollero, Coordinator
Gesher Galicia
Severna Park, Maryland
rkpollero@comcast.net


Joyce Field wrote:


Phyllis Goldberg, a friend of Galicia SIG and JewishGen and a dedicated
volunteer for the Yizkor Book Project, died on Friday evening, February
15, after a valiant struggle against cancer.

She will be missed by all who knew her, who admired her dedication, humor,
perseverence, and breadth of knowledge. Her level of volunteerism will
long be remembered. While going through a course of chemotherapy she
continued to work on a yizkor book project. She told me that this work
gave her courage and added meaning to her life.

I cannot express how much I will miss her.


Thank you for Audubon St. Info #general

Phoebe Nix
 

Dear List,

Thank you for the clarification on the above referenced street name.

Sincerely,
Phoebe Nix


Washington, DC 1920 #general

NormTillman@...
 

Is there any out there who can look somethung up for me in the 1920
Washington, DC census? Please respond directly to me. Thank you.

Norman Tillman Albany, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Father and son sharing a name #general

Jacob D. Goldstein <jake@...>
 

At 01:30 PM 2/17/02 Harold Lewin wrote:
I agree that the improbability of a living Ashkenazic father and his son
sharing the same name is a popular misconception. While indexing the
marriage registers of the old London Ashkenazic synagogues, well over 4
percent of the 4,400 marriages (covering the period 1792-1860) so far
indexed are in this category.
You would certainly expect some exceptions to the rule than an
Ashkenazi Jew would not name a child after a living relative, but
the figure of 4% is probably *much* too high. This statistic is
biased by the demographics of the sample. The capital of the
British Empire was a cosmopolitan city. Jews with roots in
Amsterdam lived alongside Jews >from Frankfurt-on-Main (and
alongside non-Jews). Sephardic Jews living in neighborhoods having
Ashkenazi majorities would surely have tried to maintain their
proud traditions and identity.

Jake Goldstein
Boston, Massachusetts


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen American Jewish Yearbook Indexes... #general

Rosanne D. Leeson <leeson1@...>
 

Further to the quite correct post of Jeremy Frankel, regarding the New
York Times Obituary Indexes, and his reference to the American Jewish
Yearbook, I would like to remind all Jewishgenners that among the
Databases available on the Jewishgen site is one for the American Jewish
Yearbook Obituary Index, 1948-1998!

Rosanne Leeson
--
Rosanne Leeson
Los Altos, CA USA
Leeson1@attglobal.net

MODERATOR NOTE: This database can be found at
<http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/ajybweb.htm>.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seek data for father who entered US twice #general

AviDov@...
 

My dad,z"l immigrated in the late summer of 1914 >from Russia and
Oct./Nov.1919,after his discharge >from the Jewish Legion of the British
Army, in then Palestine

I am sure of the time frames,but not the embarkation or arrival ports. He
always lived in Northern New Jersey,so I might assume he came through New
York. My EIDB search was unsuccessful,so I need to try other entry points.

Often it depended on when ships and space were available and it may be
Boston, or Phila. or Baltimore. How do I begin searching those
manifests,etc. ?. Abe Nutkis


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen In Memory of Phyllis Goldberg #general

Shelley K. Pollero
 

Today we mourn the loss of our dear friend, Phyllis Goldberg.

The Jewish genealogy community will very much miss Phyllis Goldberg, whose
commitment and dedication to Gesher Galicia, JewishGen, JGS of Greater
Washington, and the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum were extraordinary. She
worked ceaselessly to document and archive information about Galicia,
especially Kolbuszowa and Mielec, her ancestral towns. Some of her
accomplishments are located on the Yizkor Book Translations Project on
JewishGen.

Always placing others before herself, even as she suffered, Phyllis made
Heroic efforts in support and care of her young grandson, who suffers from
Fanconi Anemia. As Phyllis focused her waning energies on her grandson and
the fight against this genetic disease that preoccupied her for several
years, she continued to volunteer her efforts in support of Jewish
genealogy. For more information about Fanconi Anemia Research, go to
www.fanconi.org

If you may wish to make contributions in memory of Phyllis Goldberg, please
consider the following:

-JewishGen Wall of Honor
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/Honors0.html

-JewishGen Yizkor Book Translations General Fund
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/YizkorTrans.ihtml

Upon learning that Phyllis would soon lose her battle against melanoma, I
was able to salute her in my Coordinator Column of The Galitzianer (Winter
2002) newsletter.

Her funeral will be held on Monday, February 18 at 2:00 p.m. at Har Shalom
in Potomac, Maryland. Shiva will follow Monday through Thursday at the
Goldberg residence. Additional details are in the Sunday (today) Washington
Post (D.C.) newspaper.

For further information about funeral and Shiva arrangements, write to me
privately. Phyllis' home address is in the Gesher Galicia Family Finder; or
you may contact me.

With great sorrow,

Shelley
--
Shelley K. Pollero, Coordinator
Gesher Galicia
Severna Park, Maryland
rkpollero@comcast.net


Joyce Field wrote:


Phyllis Goldberg, a friend of Galicia SIG and JewishGen and a dedicated
volunteer for the Yizkor Book Project, died on Friday evening, February
15, after a valiant struggle against cancer.

She will be missed by all who knew her, who admired her dedication, humor,
perseverence, and breadth of knowledge. Her level of volunteerism will
long be remembered. While going through a course of chemotherapy she
continued to work on a yizkor book project. She told me that this work
gave her courage and added meaning to her life.

I cannot express how much I will miss her.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Thank you for Audubon St. Info #general

Phoebe Nix
 

Dear List,

Thank you for the clarification on the above referenced street name.

Sincerely,
Phoebe Nix


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Washington, DC 1920 #general

NormTillman@...
 

Is there any out there who can look somethung up for me in the 1920
Washington, DC census? Please respond directly to me. Thank you.

Norman Tillman Albany, NY


A Polish Drummer Boy #general

Elless <elless@...>
 

This subject raises several questions for me.

My ggf, Hirsch ENGELISCZER, was >from Warsaw. I have a picture of him in the
uniform of a hussar. Because of the lack of color, I can't identify the
particular regiment or rank. >from his age, I think that he served in the
Russo-Turkish War in the 1870's. His sister, Feige, married Israel KUPFER a
well known Roumanian cantor, and I conjecture that Hirsch met Israel while
in Roumania with his regiment and made the shiddach.

My principal question has to do with how an obvious Jew could have been
taken into what must have been an elite regiment such as the hussars.

Lewis Stein
Boynton Beach, FL


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen A Polish Drummer Boy #general

Elless <elless@...>
 

This subject raises several questions for me.

My ggf, Hirsch ENGELISCZER, was >from Warsaw. I have a picture of him in the
uniform of a hussar. Because of the lack of color, I can't identify the
particular regiment or rank. >from his age, I think that he served in the
Russo-Turkish War in the 1870's. His sister, Feige, married Israel KUPFER a
well known Roumanian cantor, and I conjecture that Hirsch met Israel while
in Roumania with his regiment and made the shiddach.

My principal question has to do with how an obvious Jew could have been
taken into what must have been an elite regiment such as the hussars.

Lewis Stein
Boynton Beach, FL