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Re: GINSBERG: two performers. #southafrica

Richard Wunsh <wunsh@...>
 

Eric Egan had a son Michael; who in the late 60's or early 70's went to
London and was an actor there featuring in a number of plays and also films

----- Original Message -----
From: "adam and lopa yamey" <adamandlopa@...>
To: "South Africa SIG" <safrica@...>
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 2:35 AM
Subject: [safrica] GINSBERG: two performers.


Hello >from london again.

One of my great-grandfather's (senator Franz GINSBERG)
brothers was Gustaf GINSBERG(1873-1919/20). He married
Edith MENDELSOHN(1881-1941/42). They had two sons Eric
and Felix.
Felix became a musician(?pianist) and went to the
states: he adopted the name Felix DE COLA. Eric, I
believe, was a radio broadcaster in South Africa: he
adopted the name Eric EGAN.

Can anyone provide me with more information about
either or both of these performers?

Please contact me, Adam Yamey, London, UK
<adamandlopa@...>


Re: OSTROVSKY #southafrica

KelAbraz@...
 

Mike Ostrowsky is a very successful maxillo-facial surgeon in Cape Town.
Kelvyn Abramowitz


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re: GINSBERG: two performers. #southafrica

Richard Wunsh <wunsh@...>
 

Eric Egan had a son Michael; who in the late 60's or early 70's went to
London and was an actor there featuring in a number of plays and also films

----- Original Message -----
From: "adam and lopa yamey" <adamandlopa@...>
To: "South Africa SIG" <safrica@...>
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 2:35 AM
Subject: [safrica] GINSBERG: two performers.


Hello >from london again.

One of my great-grandfather's (senator Franz GINSBERG)
brothers was Gustaf GINSBERG(1873-1919/20). He married
Edith MENDELSOHN(1881-1941/42). They had two sons Eric
and Felix.
Felix became a musician(?pianist) and went to the
states: he adopted the name Felix DE COLA. Eric, I
believe, was a radio broadcaster in South Africa: he
adopted the name Eric EGAN.

Can anyone provide me with more information about
either or both of these performers?

Please contact me, Adam Yamey, London, UK
<adamandlopa@...>


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re: OSTROVSKY #southafrica

KelAbraz@...
 

Mike Ostrowsky is a very successful maxillo-facial surgeon in Cape Town.
Kelvyn Abramowitz


Re: Poland: Search a Database #poland

Stan Goodman <sgoodman@...>
 

** Reply to message >from Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...> on Mon, 15
Apr 2002 07:21:47 -0400

Try your luck with this "database of missing persons" in Poland:

http://www.zaginieni.pl/
Loading the above URL with anything but Microsoft Internet Explorer will get
you a warning that the site may not display properly with your browser,
regardless of how old or new your browser is. The site tells you accurately what
your browser is.

http://www.zaginieni.pl/main.php?S=missing&L=eng
Loading the "missing" URL above demonstrates that the warning is a serious one.
The site is broken for non-Microsoft browsers; its designers did not confine
themselves to legal HTML, but utilized non-standard Microsoft "enhancements". If
you are using Netscape or any other browser, on any operating system at all
(including any flavor of Windows) you need not bother with this potentially
useful website.

Regrettably, this is not unusual in Polish websites, the designers of which are
more given to razzle-dazzle than to the accessibility that would be gained by
sticking to standard usages.

The site is yet another victory for Mr. Gates.

--
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel


200 years of European fecklessness in the face of Arab terror: Tripoli Pirates (1814); OPEC Oil (1973); Saddam Hussein and Yasser Arafat (1990 et seq.)


JRI Poland #Poland Re: Poland: Search a Database #poland

Stan Goodman <sgoodman@...>
 

** Reply to message >from Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...> on Mon, 15
Apr 2002 07:21:47 -0400

Try your luck with this "database of missing persons" in Poland:

http://www.zaginieni.pl/
Loading the above URL with anything but Microsoft Internet Explorer will get
you a warning that the site may not display properly with your browser,
regardless of how old or new your browser is. The site tells you accurately what
your browser is.

http://www.zaginieni.pl/main.php?S=missing&L=eng
Loading the "missing" URL above demonstrates that the warning is a serious one.
The site is broken for non-Microsoft browsers; its designers did not confine
themselves to legal HTML, but utilized non-standard Microsoft "enhancements". If
you are using Netscape or any other browser, on any operating system at all
(including any flavor of Windows) you need not bother with this potentially
useful website.

Regrettably, this is not unusual in Polish websites, the designers of which are
more given to razzle-dazzle than to the accessibility that would be gained by
sticking to standard usages.

The site is yet another victory for Mr. Gates.

--
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel


200 years of European fecklessness in the face of Arab terror: Tripoli Pirates (1814); OPEC Oil (1973); Saddam Hussein and Yasser Arafat (1990 et seq.)


Re: port of Libau, Russia #general

Rosa3035@...
 

Parts of my family, Aunt & Uncle with seven children, who lived near Uman,
Kiev in the town of Teplyk, Kiev, left the port of Libau, Russia.
They were passengers on the Russian Volunteer Fleet ship that was renamed
the S.S. Petersberg and used the port of Libau. They sailed on May 11, 1908
aqnd arrived NYC May 28, 1908.
This ship was purchased by the Russian government >from one of the large
German steamship lines and may have even come with an experienced crew.
On the manifest of this ship for this sailing, all nine members of the
family were listed. Father first, then mother, then the children in order of
age, the eldest first.
In column #10, (last permanent address) they are all listed as coming from
Uman, Kiev.
In later years, the children all applied for citizenship and listed Teplyk,
Kiev as their birthplace.
My perception of this discrepancy is that the father and mother were both
residents of Uman, (along with their parents and siblings) then married and
moved to Teplyk where they raised their their seven children.
I would like to have research done to find out all I can about this family
in Kiev. There were originaly parents and five children (the oldest son is
the father listed on the manifest) all of whom emmigrated prior to this
family.

Does anyone know of a researcher (reliable) in that part of the world.
Please advise by personal E mail.

Nathan Greenberg
San Diego, CA 92128
rosa3035@...


Anglicised forenames #general

Ann Mitchell <ann.mitchell@...>
 

I am grateful for the observations >from Charles, Shimon and Sally: Any
ideas about the name "Norman" as first name for Number One son? This
runs consistently through the various branches of the family I am
researching: BENTWITCH or BENTWICH, >from Peisern [or, Pyzdry] near
Posen/Poznan.

Dr Ann M. Mitchell,
e-mail: ann.mitchell@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: port of Libau, Russia #general

Rosa3035@...
 

Parts of my family, Aunt & Uncle with seven children, who lived near Uman,
Kiev in the town of Teplyk, Kiev, left the port of Libau, Russia.
They were passengers on the Russian Volunteer Fleet ship that was renamed
the S.S. Petersberg and used the port of Libau. They sailed on May 11, 1908
aqnd arrived NYC May 28, 1908.
This ship was purchased by the Russian government >from one of the large
German steamship lines and may have even come with an experienced crew.
On the manifest of this ship for this sailing, all nine members of the
family were listed. Father first, then mother, then the children in order of
age, the eldest first.
In column #10, (last permanent address) they are all listed as coming from
Uman, Kiev.
In later years, the children all applied for citizenship and listed Teplyk,
Kiev as their birthplace.
My perception of this discrepancy is that the father and mother were both
residents of Uman, (along with their parents and siblings) then married and
moved to Teplyk where they raised their their seven children.
I would like to have research done to find out all I can about this family
in Kiev. There were originaly parents and five children (the oldest son is
the father listed on the manifest) all of whom emmigrated prior to this
family.

Does anyone know of a researcher (reliable) in that part of the world.
Please advise by personal E mail.

Nathan Greenberg
San Diego, CA 92128
rosa3035@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Anglicised forenames #general

Ann Mitchell <ann.mitchell@...>
 

I am grateful for the observations >from Charles, Shimon and Sally: Any
ideas about the name "Norman" as first name for Number One son? This
runs consistently through the various branches of the family I am
researching: BENTWITCH or BENTWICH, >from Peisern [or, Pyzdry] near
Posen/Poznan.

Dr Ann M. Mitchell,
e-mail: ann.mitchell@...


Re: Ukraine town #general

Alexander Sharon
 

"Irv Kramer" <irvdk@...> wrote

Morning Genners,
After speaking with my sister last night she remembered our Father telling
her he was >from a shtetl called "Pee a tear" (Unknown spelling). On the
ships records it said that they where >from Kieff (Kiev) Russia.
Have any of you heard of this town and the correct spelling?
I have searched and could
not find it in the shtetl seeker. Any help would be appreciated. I would
also like to thank the many people that helped me with view mate posting.

Irv Kramer
irvdk@...
Pittsburgh, Pa
Researching: PIATIGORSKY and KRAMER Kiev to Cleveland,
STEIN and GREENBERG Russia, Pittsburgh Pa, Toledo, Oh
NOSICH, REITENBERG and WEDRON Russia

Irv,

I believe that you are searching for Pyatigory.
Town is located about 80 miles distance >from Kiev, Ukraine.
Town alternative names: Piatigory, Piatohor, Piatyhory, Pjatigory have all
the researched by you ingredients: "tee" and "pee" and "pear" and "tear" and
"ear".

But seriously. One of the researched by your surname >from Kiev is
Piatigorsky - this gave a clue to the shtetls name.
BTW -Piatigory means Fivehills.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Alberta


Lost JOWBR contributors #general

Harriet Brown <hnbrown@...>
 

The following people have volunteered to contribute data to the JewishGen
Online Worldwide Burial Registry (JOWBR) and are not responding to the
email addresses I have for them.

Eric J. Brock
Tina Walzer
Eric Adler
Geri and Miriam Prokop
Eva Florsheim
Toni Szmuk

If you're reading this and your name is on the list, or you know where any
of these people may be reached, please get in touch with me. We are working
very hard to get this important database launched, and I need to hear from
you.

Thanks.

--Harriet Brown
JOWBR Administrative Coordinator


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Ukraine town #general

Alexander Sharon
 

"Irv Kramer" <irvdk@...> wrote

Morning Genners,
After speaking with my sister last night she remembered our Father telling
her he was >from a shtetl called "Pee a tear" (Unknown spelling). On the
ships records it said that they where >from Kieff (Kiev) Russia.
Have any of you heard of this town and the correct spelling?
I have searched and could
not find it in the shtetl seeker. Any help would be appreciated. I would
also like to thank the many people that helped me with view mate posting.

Irv Kramer
irvdk@...
Pittsburgh, Pa
Researching: PIATIGORSKY and KRAMER Kiev to Cleveland,
STEIN and GREENBERG Russia, Pittsburgh Pa, Toledo, Oh
NOSICH, REITENBERG and WEDRON Russia

Irv,

I believe that you are searching for Pyatigory.
Town is located about 80 miles distance >from Kiev, Ukraine.
Town alternative names: Piatigory, Piatohor, Piatyhory, Pjatigory have all
the researched by you ingredients: "tee" and "pee" and "pear" and "tear" and
"ear".

But seriously. One of the researched by your surname >from Kiev is
Piatigorsky - this gave a clue to the shtetls name.
BTW -Piatigory means Fivehills.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Alberta


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Lost JOWBR contributors #general

Harriet Brown <hnbrown@...>
 

The following people have volunteered to contribute data to the JewishGen
Online Worldwide Burial Registry (JOWBR) and are not responding to the
email addresses I have for them.

Eric J. Brock
Tina Walzer
Eric Adler
Geri and Miriam Prokop
Eva Florsheim
Toni Szmuk

If you're reading this and your name is on the list, or you know where any
of these people may be reached, please get in touch with me. We are working
very hard to get this important database launched, and I need to hear from
you.

Thanks.

--Harriet Brown
JOWBR Administrative Coordinator


Poland Online Directory #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

Yes, there really is an online directory for Poland. You will find it here:

http://ditel.tpsa.pl/asp/szukaj_a.asp
or
http://ditel.tpsa.pl/

Thanks to Adam Druks and others, here is a guide to all of the Polish
words on the web site listed immediately above:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/poland-online/

Dan

P.S. This in part of a difficult search I am attempting, for a
cousin of mine named Piotr (surname unknown) who was born in about
1953, and who now likely lives in Warsaw. Details here:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0414.tel/

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...> or <dkazez@...>
Springfield, Ohio USA
Czestochowa-Przyrow-Mstow-Janow-Plawno-Radomsko-Piotrkow-Zgierz
TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK,
BRODA, OFMAN, ZYLBERBERG, KRZEPITSKI, BIDA


website #general

Scordisian <skordisian@...>
 

You can now acces our website at www.serbia-today.com and request
information on doing genealogy on your ancestors. We are having contact
with the Jewish comm. You can read more at our Research page.
Feel free to post on our forum and to subscribe to our newsletter.

Kind regards,

The Serbian Genealogy Foundation ( SGF )
Sergei Oudman


zip code, postage, etc. #general

Christie Fox <christiefox@...>
 

Hi group

I'm in the US

I just got off the phone >from talking with the post office.

I wanted to know what the cost of mailing 1 piece of paper to Poland would
be, and the post office said it was 80 cents. I asked for the zip code of
Poland and was told that there is no zip code for Poland.

I wanted to know what the cost of mailing 1 piece of paper to Slovakia would
be, and the post office said it was 80 cents also. I asked for the zip code
and the representative provided a zip code for me.

I also asked if I could send to Poland/Slovakia a return envelope with US
postage on it in the amount of 80 cents and the representative said "yes".
I asked if our US postage is good in Poland/Slovakia and I was told "yes".
I asked if I needed to pick up a form so that the receiver could go to the
post office to get their own country's postage put on an envelope my
relatives would send to me and I was told that no form was necessary. The
representative told me to use 80 cents US postage for both ways.

christiefox@...


Looking for SIGAL #general

Alex S <vil@...>
 

I am looking for information on the Sigal family.

Here is what I know so far (and I am not sure how accurate this is):

My great-great-grandfather's name was Isaac Sigal. My great-grandfather's
name was David Sigal. He was a soldier in the czar's army for 25 years.
After he returned >from service, he was a business man who had something to
do with forests and land. My father thinks that he is either >from Vinnitsa
or the surrounding area. >from what I understand, he was married and had
six or seven children and his wife died. He then married my
great-grandmother whose name was Rebecca. They had my grandfather in 1904
whose name was Nahum (Huna) Sigal. When the revolution started in Russia, I
think that some of the brothers, who were much older, immigrated to United
States and Argentina or Mexico or may be both. My grandfather could not
communicate with them at all, because communication with the "capitalists"
was not allowed.

I know that one sister named Roza remained in Russia and was killed by Nazis
with her two children and husband. I have her photograph somewhere.

When I was a little kid in Russia (Latvia to be more precise), my
grandfather used to listen to "Voice of America". They would often
broadcast the singing of hazan Pinchus Sigal (I hope that Pinchus Sigal and
Pinchik that everyone refers to is the same person). Every time my
grandfather would say that he is sure that this is his brother. (May be he
was mistaken? I never expected there to be so many Sigals with similar
histories.)

He also used to tell me that he thinks that one of his older half-brothers
is in Argentina and has some sort of sugar plant or plantation. He did not
know where the other brothers went.

My grandfather died at the age of 71 >from a heart attack. He was a very
interesting person, who on his own graduated >from two universities with the
highest honors. He went on to become a famous engineer, and was responsible
for building many power stations and mines throughout the Soviet Union. He
was also an officer in the Soviet Army during WWII, and was in Berlin
during and right after the end of the war. His parents died very young, and he
always wondered what happened to his brothers. He always said that when we
leave the Soviet Union, he would look for his brothers. Unfortunately, he
died before we immigrated to the United States in 1979.

If any of these facts fit with yours, please let me know.

Thanks, Alex Sigal.

vil@...


Fear of Finding #general

Dov & Varda <yknow@...>
 

Haviva Langenauer wrote; >Are there genners who have experienced a desire
to end their search because
of unpleasant experiences with newly found relatives? Are there genners
who are suspicious of those who claim to be related to them? I'm
wondering if this has put an end to a genealogy quest, or has the genner
turned away and looked elsewhere for more positive experiences?<

I found that once one of a branch of my tree refused to meet with me, I was
afraid to contact the others. He thought he already had enough
relatives, I felt shy to contact the others of this branch of some 200
family members.

We carried on an e-mail correspondence for a year
and I don't hesitate to contact him when I need info. I even think he became
fond of me, but he simply didn't have any interest in meeting me.
As for suspicions to people claiming to be relatives...for years I was told
that I should contact a certain woman who was supposedly related to me. When
I found my aforementioned non-friendly but real relative, he told me that
this woman claimed for years to be related to our family but he never found
any proof of this. All the evidence points to the fact that she isn't
related. She and her husband were under his tutelage when they were working
on their respective theses and worked under him in his department of the
Technion. On the other hand, the relatives that assured me we are
related to this woman, took the time to visit with this wannabe, every time
they visited Israel! They were very annoyed when I tried to tell them we
aren't related to her.

My mother inlaw keeps asking me, how do I know that these cousins I find are
really related to me? She is very concerned about this. I find her worry
amusing and sort of touching and take pains to show her proof. I think she
is thinking about those who prey on unsuspecting children over the internet.

Varda Epstein
yknow@...
Metzad
Israel
Researching; YANOVSKY, JANOFSKY, YANOWSKI, KOPELMAN (Vasiliski/Vasilishok),
SAKUTSKY (Vilna Guberniya),EPSTEIN, GOMBINER (Sovetsk/Tilsit), SCHWARTZ
(Nizhan, Kharkov), MOKSEL,RODAK(Raciasz),MEYERS changed >from MAYER
especially those with the name Gedalia Mendel/George (Lithuania),PAUL,
STEPT(Russia) and SALANT


Re: Eda GENKIN search #general

B J <bj445@...>
 

Hillary,

Since you have the ship name and the arrival date, you can try the "manual"
search through the Morse missing manifest search tool.
Just keep scrolling through the roll "sampling" pages until you come to your
ship name, then go back or forward to view all the pages. Good luck.

Barbara Sloan
Wallingford, CT

Searching SLATAS/ZLATES,/SLATIS, SANKTIN/SENKTON/SANCTON,
SLONIMSKY/SLONIMSKI, WEINGER/WENGER, PASSIN--Belarus, Lithuania and USA