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Re: Req for help: reading Ladino or Hebrew inscription #general

Steven Capsuto <stevecap@...>
 

I'm hereby withdrawing my request for help.

By comparing the solitreo letters on the flyleaf of my
great-grandfather's siddurs against the solitreo text at
http://www.ezrabessaroth.org/Pages/clarion.html , I was able to
decipher enough to tell that, contrary to my late grandfather's
theory, the inscriptions are *not* records of births in the family.

I can't make out all the letters yet, but the first line of each
inscription apparently reads "eyste libro apartient a..." ("this
book belongs to...") I haven't figured out enough solitreo to make
out the first names, but two of the books belonged to a member of my
own CAPSUTO family, while the other (as near as I can tell) belonged
to someone named LEVI.

Thank you to all the kind people who had a go at this baffling text!

B'shalom.

Steven Capsuto, Philadelphia, PA, USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Req for help: reading Ladino or Hebrew inscription #general

Steven Capsuto <stevecap@...>
 

I'm hereby withdrawing my request for help.

By comparing the solitreo letters on the flyleaf of my
great-grandfather's siddurs against the solitreo text at
http://www.ezrabessaroth.org/Pages/clarion.html , I was able to
decipher enough to tell that, contrary to my late grandfather's
theory, the inscriptions are *not* records of births in the family.

I can't make out all the letters yet, but the first line of each
inscription apparently reads "eyste libro apartient a..." ("this
book belongs to...") I haven't figured out enough solitreo to make
out the first names, but two of the books belonged to a member of my
own CAPSUTO family, while the other (as near as I can tell) belonged
to someone named LEVI.

Thank you to all the kind people who had a go at this baffling text!

B'shalom.

Steven Capsuto, Philadelphia, PA, USA


Re: Help with name translation-Jerome #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

" My grandfather's hebrew name is Zacharya but the given names
database lists the US translation for Zacharya as Ben,Issachar,Barnett,
and Sam. The name Jerome brings up in the database the hebrew name
Yirmiyahu with the US name being Jeremy"

The problem, Marcy, is that although the 'common' English name for
a Hebrew name of Zachary might be Ben, Issachar(this is not a common
English name for anything, at least in the US), Barnett, and Sam, that
doesn't mean that your Zacharya didn't use the name Jeremy-or Paul or
Peter or anything else. There is no translation, but some things were
more common than others.

For example, the initial sound was often kept the same-and J was often
used for Sh or perhaps Z. My greataunt was Shoena and became Jenny.
If you pronounce the J in Jenny in the French way, the two names are
very similar. Perhaps your Zacharya thought Jeremy sounded similar-or
maybe he just liked the name. In my family Wolf's became Harry, but
the 'common' name was William.

So if your Zachary was Jeremy, that is who he was-just be sure you
have other evidence that it is the same person.

Sally


Re: Organization #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

The answer to the organization problem is different in different
families. Part is personal preference, and part is the amount of
information.

When I started, I had a set of 31 dividers (usually daily dividers
for a month of company records) and paper family group sheets with
corresponding file folders for the 31 nuclear families. That was
great when I only had a few generations and hadn't used up the 31
families there.

Now, I have a lot of -hundreds of-names of my ancestors. I keep my
computerized information in Brother's Keeper, a shareware program you
can try for free. I also keep file folders for each surname, some of
the folders are subdivided for the names I have lots of information
about; in each folder, the information is kept in some semi-logical
order-documents of various kinds in one folder, correspondance by
correspondant and date order in another, etc.

I have a notebook and family tree of the ancestors of a grandfather
who was born in Amsterdam-there are lots of records and lots of
generations and lots of people in that line, all in the same set of
records. I have found that keeping track of all the people in Amsterdam
is easiest this way-when looking through Amsterdam records, I only have
the Amsterdam lines, and I can look for all the people who were there.
When I have generations before the 31 families, I keep them in order
under the 'stem' ancestor of the 31 families.

I have another notebook for the Polish/German/Russian parts of my
family which doesn't take up so much space for a lot fewer people.

I also tried a computer program which keeps track of the documents for
each person, but I found the printouts leaving out information.

Sally Bruckheimer
Albany, NY


Tombstone Insignia #general

Josh Brown <gettysburg63@...>
 

Hello:

I just received a picture of my g.g.uncle's grave in Albuquerque,
and on the top, there was a picture of something that looks like a
lamb on the top of it. Does anyone know what this means?

B'Shalom,
Josh Brown
Los Angeles, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Help with name translation-Jerome #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

" My grandfather's hebrew name is Zacharya but the given names
database lists the US translation for Zacharya as Ben,Issachar,Barnett,
and Sam. The name Jerome brings up in the database the hebrew name
Yirmiyahu with the US name being Jeremy"

The problem, Marcy, is that although the 'common' English name for
a Hebrew name of Zachary might be Ben, Issachar(this is not a common
English name for anything, at least in the US), Barnett, and Sam, that
doesn't mean that your Zacharya didn't use the name Jeremy-or Paul or
Peter or anything else. There is no translation, but some things were
more common than others.

For example, the initial sound was often kept the same-and J was often
used for Sh or perhaps Z. My greataunt was Shoena and became Jenny.
If you pronounce the J in Jenny in the French way, the two names are
very similar. Perhaps your Zacharya thought Jeremy sounded similar-or
maybe he just liked the name. In my family Wolf's became Harry, but
the 'common' name was William.

So if your Zachary was Jeremy, that is who he was-just be sure you
have other evidence that it is the same person.

Sally


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Organization #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

The answer to the organization problem is different in different
families. Part is personal preference, and part is the amount of
information.

When I started, I had a set of 31 dividers (usually daily dividers
for a month of company records) and paper family group sheets with
corresponding file folders for the 31 nuclear families. That was
great when I only had a few generations and hadn't used up the 31
families there.

Now, I have a lot of -hundreds of-names of my ancestors. I keep my
computerized information in Brother's Keeper, a shareware program you
can try for free. I also keep file folders for each surname, some of
the folders are subdivided for the names I have lots of information
about; in each folder, the information is kept in some semi-logical
order-documents of various kinds in one folder, correspondance by
correspondant and date order in another, etc.

I have a notebook and family tree of the ancestors of a grandfather
who was born in Amsterdam-there are lots of records and lots of
generations and lots of people in that line, all in the same set of
records. I have found that keeping track of all the people in Amsterdam
is easiest this way-when looking through Amsterdam records, I only have
the Amsterdam lines, and I can look for all the people who were there.
When I have generations before the 31 families, I keep them in order
under the 'stem' ancestor of the 31 families.

I have another notebook for the Polish/German/Russian parts of my
family which doesn't take up so much space for a lot fewer people.

I also tried a computer program which keeps track of the documents for
each person, but I found the printouts leaving out information.

Sally Bruckheimer
Albany, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Tombstone Insignia #general

Josh Brown <gettysburg63@...>
 

Hello:

I just received a picture of my g.g.uncle's grave in Albuquerque,
and on the top, there was a picture of something that looks like a
lamb on the top of it. Does anyone know what this means?

B'Shalom,
Josh Brown
Los Angeles, CA


Smolewitzer Association #general

JSelig3460@...
 

Having just completed my research of the Skidler Benevolent Society
at the YIVO library my next study will be of the Smolevici shtetl. I
would appreciate it if any of you out there would inform me that this
study has already been undertaken so that there will be no duplication
of effort. For those of you with roots in the Belarus shtetls might I
suggest that you examine www.jewishgen.org/belarus to check the names
of possible relatives who were members of the NYC landsmanshaften
organizations.

Jerry Seligsohn
NYC
SELIGSOHN and ELKIN of Mogilev


Prussian Army records #general

Helen Gottesman
 

Hello.
My father had said that his father was in the Prussian
Army in the 1920.s. Does anyone have information on
this. His name was Alexander Dobrin >from Tuchola,
Poland (1880 to 1927).

Helen Gottesman


Phone Numbers #general

phil kornstein <lgabrielson@...>
 

I have personally thanked all who answered my request for phone
numbers of BRONER in Israel. The response was terrific. The numbers
I had were partially correct which explains why I couldn't get through.
The Jewishgen website is a wonderful place and I thank all of you for
taking the time to read my posting.

Phil Kornstein
Northridge, CA

Searching: KORENSTEIN, KORNSTEIN, BRONER, NEMOVITZ, NEMOWITZ, NEMO,
MILGRAM, FRACHTENBERG


Searching for family KOLTZ from Chicago #general

robert.gleek <robert.gleek@...>
 

Have you ever heard of the late Gloria Koltz of xxx Sunnyside Ave,
Chicago? She worked for the Evans Furs Company in the 1940s and died
in 1986, aged 84.

She is thought to have been married to Pinkus Koltz (who died 10
years ago).

Pinkus had sisters Milly & Eva; their children were Lydia, Jeanette,
Cyril & Linda.

The surname could have been changed to Colts - and cousins changed
theirs to Collis.

Any clues, ideas or suggestions are most welcome.

Thank you,
Daniel Gleek in London.
DanielGee@...

Also searching for:
BENJAMIN (New York); HERMAN (New York); WAINSTOK (Kolo); GLICK
(Chicago); GLEEK/GLICK (South Africa); KELLER (Warsaw); GLICKMAN/
GLUKMAN (Vilnius/Warsaw)

MODERATOR NOTE: Street address deleted in accordance with JewishGen's
privacy policy.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Smolewitzer Association #general

JSelig3460@...
 

Having just completed my research of the Skidler Benevolent Society
at the YIVO library my next study will be of the Smolevici shtetl. I
would appreciate it if any of you out there would inform me that this
study has already been undertaken so that there will be no duplication
of effort. For those of you with roots in the Belarus shtetls might I
suggest that you examine www.jewishgen.org/belarus to check the names
of possible relatives who were members of the NYC landsmanshaften
organizations.

Jerry Seligsohn
NYC
SELIGSOHN and ELKIN of Mogilev


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Prussian Army records #general

Helen Gottesman
 

Hello.
My father had said that his father was in the Prussian
Army in the 1920.s. Does anyone have information on
this. His name was Alexander Dobrin >from Tuchola,
Poland (1880 to 1927).

Helen Gottesman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Phone Numbers #general

phil kornstein <lgabrielson@...>
 

I have personally thanked all who answered my request for phone
numbers of BRONER in Israel. The response was terrific. The numbers
I had were partially correct which explains why I couldn't get through.
The Jewishgen website is a wonderful place and I thank all of you for
taking the time to read my posting.

Phil Kornstein
Northridge, CA

Searching: KORENSTEIN, KORNSTEIN, BRONER, NEMOVITZ, NEMOWITZ, NEMO,
MILGRAM, FRACHTENBERG


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching for family KOLTZ from Chicago #general

robert.gleek <robert.gleek@...>
 

Have you ever heard of the late Gloria Koltz of xxx Sunnyside Ave,
Chicago? She worked for the Evans Furs Company in the 1940s and died
in 1986, aged 84.

She is thought to have been married to Pinkus Koltz (who died 10
years ago).

Pinkus had sisters Milly & Eva; their children were Lydia, Jeanette,
Cyril & Linda.

The surname could have been changed to Colts - and cousins changed
theirs to Collis.

Any clues, ideas or suggestions are most welcome.

Thank you,
Daniel Gleek in London.
DanielGee@...

Also searching for:
BENJAMIN (New York); HERMAN (New York); WAINSTOK (Kolo); GLICK
(Chicago); GLEEK/GLICK (South Africa); KELLER (Warsaw); GLICKMAN/
GLUKMAN (Vilnius/Warsaw)

MODERATOR NOTE: Street address deleted in accordance with JewishGen's
privacy policy.


Need help in DC #general

Neil@...
 

I am looking for a special favor for someone to go to the National
Museum of American Jewish Military History in Wash, DC.
The archivist is there Wed-Thurs-Fri.
Please let me know if you have the time to help.
Thanks,

Dr. Neil Rosenstein
Elizabeth, NJ
Email: neil@...
http://tali.com/neilr


Re: Plutsky, Russia #general

Joan Silverman <jbsilverman@...>
 

Dear Group,

I have received a death certificate for my great grandfather and it
states his birthplace (city/town) as Plutsky, Russia. Can anyone
help me with this location? It may be/was Poland.

Thanks
Joan Silverman
Revere, MA
jbsilverman@...

Researching:
Silverman, Bernstein, Schwartz, Goldberg, Weis, Klein, Zalka


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Need help in DC #general

Neil@...
 

I am looking for a special favor for someone to go to the National
Museum of American Jewish Military History in Wash, DC.
The archivist is there Wed-Thurs-Fri.
Please let me know if you have the time to help.
Thanks,

Dr. Neil Rosenstein
Elizabeth, NJ
Email: neil@...
http://tali.com/neilr


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Plutsky, Russia #general

Joan Silverman <jbsilverman@...>
 

Dear Group,

I have received a death certificate for my great grandfather and it
states his birthplace (city/town) as Plutsky, Russia. Can anyone
help me with this location? It may be/was Poland.

Thanks
Joan Silverman
Revere, MA
jbsilverman@...

Researching:
Silverman, Bernstein, Schwartz, Goldberg, Weis, Klein, Zalka