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Searching ABRAMOWITZ family-Novarodok-Hartford,Ct., USA #general

יונתן בן ארי <yonatan@...>
 

My greatgreatgrandmother, Gittle ABRAMOWITZ,left Novaradok as a widow at
the end of the 19th cent. and came to the USA via some time in Liverpool
where she remarried (name of husband unknown). To the best of my knowledge
she settled in Hartford,Ct (or possibly New Haven) According to family
sources there was a family connection, which hasn't been clarified yet,
with Rabbi HUREWITZ in Hartford.

Gittle left Novarodok with four children, three boys-Meir, Kalman and the
third not known- and a daughter Sarah.

Meir, my greatgrandfather was sent to Eretx Yisrael as a child with his
brother Kalman. Kalman returned to the states as a youth and Meir stayed
to raise a family in Israel. Sarah had lived in New York. The fourth
sibling, name unknown, was said to have seek his fortune in Boston and
supposedly found work in a department store and may have even married into
the family of the owners.

My mother, Adina KATZOFF (nee ABRAMOWITZ), had contact with some offspring
of Sarah during the early 30's (through a grandson Tom whose parents had
divorced, he lived with his father in Boston) but since then, I beleive she
has not had any contact with Sarah's family. With Kalman's descendants
there was a bit more connection over the years, in Israel and the USA. But
nothing is known about the unknown named brother who went to Boston.

If this story sounds familiar to anyone we (my mother and I and our family)
would like to hear

A happy new year to one and all

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem/Efrat
Death Certificate of son of Alfred SIMON and Lala BLOCK, NYC 11 April 1904 #general

David Simon Bendory <david90@...>
 

In searching for my SIMON family in NYC, I noticed the death of *Male
SIMON*, infant. Having acquired his Death Certificate, I see that he is
not related to my SIMON family.

If anyone is researching Alfred M. SIMON (>from Germany) or his wife, Lala
BLOCK (NY), I will be happy to forward the certificate on to you.

Please contact me privately.

David Simon Bendory
Livingston, NJ
david90@alumni.princeton.edu
Looking for Hungarian KOHN, POPPER, BRAUCH, HECHT in Resita,Timisoara,Anina
Looking for Romanian SCHWARTZ or SIEGAL, VACSMAN in Botosani or Braila, Romania
Looking for Romanian HARR near Bucharest, Romania
Looking for SIMON and GOETZ >from Germany
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/s/i/m/David-E-Simon/index.html
Naturalization papers for Barnett SHAPIRO #general

Linda <altmanlh@...>
 

Hello All;
I have copies of the naturalization papers for Barnett SHAPIRO. He was
naturalized in Tuckahoe, NY in the early 1900's. Unfortunatley it is not
the Barnett SHAPIRO that I am related to. If you are looking for a
Barnett SHAPIRO originally >from Poland, then to Tuckahoe, Westchester
County, New York, USA. This Barnett had 5 children and a wife. Email me
privatley if this is your guy.


Linda Altman - Raleigh, NC
researching:
ALTMAN, >from Russia to NY City. TYRNAUER >from Hungary.
BERGMAN >from Warsaw & Sokolow-Podlaski, Poland to the UK, Israel and US.
CYBULA/CYBULKA/CYBULKO/CYBULKSI, Ostrow Maz., Siedlce,& Zambrow, Poland to
UK, and US. GOLDFINGIER, Sokolow-Podlaski, Poland. SINGER, Austria.
KRIEDBERG/KREIDBERG/KZAIBURG/KRITBERG/KRITZBERG >from Russia to US.
LIEBERMAN, Austria and Romania to US.
First Name: Nocher #general

Joan Parker <housemom@...>
 

Dear Genners:

I know what nochus means in Yiddish, but recently I found information
about my Uncle Irving whose name on the 1910 NY census was Isadore, later
to be come Irving. but on the arrival in 1905 manifest it is Nocher. Is
there an *English* equivalent to Nocher? My Dad was listed as Iszchok
which probably is Itsaak and was Ike on the 1910 census. He ultimately
became Ernest.

Thanks for any help or information.

Joan Parker
Miami, FL
Searching: GOLDBERG and GOODSTEIN-Plock, Poland/Russia and Brooklyn, NY; PINKUS and
WINOGRAD-Odessa, Ukraine and Brooklyn, NY; GELFAND-Minsk and Bronx, NY; YEHUDIS;
KATZ, Bronx, NY
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching ABRAMOWITZ family-Novarodok-Hartford,Ct., USA #general

יונתן בן ארי <yonatan@...>
 

My greatgreatgrandmother, Gittle ABRAMOWITZ,left Novaradok as a widow at
the end of the 19th cent. and came to the USA via some time in Liverpool
where she remarried (name of husband unknown). To the best of my knowledge
she settled in Hartford,Ct (or possibly New Haven) According to family
sources there was a family connection, which hasn't been clarified yet,
with Rabbi HUREWITZ in Hartford.

Gittle left Novarodok with four children, three boys-Meir, Kalman and the
third not known- and a daughter Sarah.

Meir, my greatgrandfather was sent to Eretx Yisrael as a child with his
brother Kalman. Kalman returned to the states as a youth and Meir stayed
to raise a family in Israel. Sarah had lived in New York. The fourth
sibling, name unknown, was said to have seek his fortune in Boston and
supposedly found work in a department store and may have even married into
the family of the owners.

My mother, Adina KATZOFF (nee ABRAMOWITZ), had contact with some offspring
of Sarah during the early 30's (through a grandson Tom whose parents had
divorced, he lived with his father in Boston) but since then, I beleive she
has not had any contact with Sarah's family. With Kalman's descendants
there was a bit more connection over the years, in Israel and the USA. But
nothing is known about the unknown named brother who went to Boston.

If this story sounds familiar to anyone we (my mother and I and our family)
would like to hear

A happy new year to one and all

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem/Efrat
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Death Certificate of son of Alfred SIMON and Lala BLOCK, NYC 11 April 1904 #general

David Simon Bendory <david90@...>
 

In searching for my SIMON family in NYC, I noticed the death of *Male
SIMON*, infant. Having acquired his Death Certificate, I see that he is
not related to my SIMON family.

If anyone is researching Alfred M. SIMON (>from Germany) or his wife, Lala
BLOCK (NY), I will be happy to forward the certificate on to you.

Please contact me privately.

David Simon Bendory
Livingston, NJ
david90@alumni.princeton.edu
Looking for Hungarian KOHN, POPPER, BRAUCH, HECHT in Resita,Timisoara,Anina
Looking for Romanian SCHWARTZ or SIEGAL, VACSMAN in Botosani or Braila, Romania
Looking for Romanian HARR near Bucharest, Romania
Looking for SIMON and GOETZ >from Germany
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/s/i/m/David-E-Simon/index.html
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Naturalization papers for Barnett SHAPIRO #general

Linda <altmanlh@...>
 

Hello All;
I have copies of the naturalization papers for Barnett SHAPIRO. He was
naturalized in Tuckahoe, NY in the early 1900's. Unfortunatley it is not
the Barnett SHAPIRO that I am related to. If you are looking for a
Barnett SHAPIRO originally >from Poland, then to Tuckahoe, Westchester
County, New York, USA. This Barnett had 5 children and a wife. Email me
privatley if this is your guy.


Linda Altman - Raleigh, NC
researching:
ALTMAN, >from Russia to NY City. TYRNAUER >from Hungary.
BERGMAN >from Warsaw & Sokolow-Podlaski, Poland to the UK, Israel and US.
CYBULA/CYBULKA/CYBULKO/CYBULKSI, Ostrow Maz., Siedlce,& Zambrow, Poland to
UK, and US. GOLDFINGIER, Sokolow-Podlaski, Poland. SINGER, Austria.
KRIEDBERG/KREIDBERG/KZAIBURG/KRITBERG/KRITZBERG >from Russia to US.
LIEBERMAN, Austria and Romania to US.
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen First Name: Nocher #general

Joan Parker <housemom@...>
 

Dear Genners:

I know what nochus means in Yiddish, but recently I found information
about my Uncle Irving whose name on the 1910 NY census was Isadore, later
to be come Irving. but on the arrival in 1905 manifest it is Nocher. Is
there an *English* equivalent to Nocher? My Dad was listed as Iszchok
which probably is Itsaak and was Ike on the 1910 census. He ultimately
became Ernest.

Thanks for any help or information.

Joan Parker
Miami, FL
Searching: GOLDBERG and GOODSTEIN-Plock, Poland/Russia and Brooklyn, NY; PINKUS and
WINOGRAD-Odessa, Ukraine and Brooklyn, NY; GELFAND-Minsk and Bronx, NY; YEHUDIS;
KATZ, Bronx, NY
Viewmate Polish/German? Records - Translation needed #general

Michael Herzlich
 

I have received >from JRI Poland/AGAD 4 records >from their archives, two
of which I have posted as 4 images (right and left hand page of each
entry). The first two images are a death record of Ester Treiber Herzlich
in 1882. The last two are the birth of Ester Herzlich in 1886. I would
appreciate assistance in getting these documents translated and
understanding their contents. The language should be Polish, but I would
not know. After these two are removed >from viewmate I hope to get the
other two documents uploaded, the death of the child, Ester, and birth of
another child, Selde. Hopefully, >from these four documents I will be able
to see any relationships.

The viewmates (738-741) are located at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1738.html

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1739.html

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1740.html

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1741.html

Please reply directly to me at:
mherzlich@yahoo.com

Thank you for any assitance,
Michael Herzlich
The much-maligned Morton Allan Directory #general

michael steinore <belaroots@...>
 

From: "Haviva Langenauer" <havival@bellsouth.net>
I have found two different dates for the arrival of the ship. EIDB says
that the Batavia arrived April 24, 1906. The Morton Allan directory says
the ship arrived April 21, 1906. Is there an undisputed source for the
correct date?

It's more a matter of correctly interpreting the dates. My theory is that
Morton-Allan records the date the ship formally docked at port, while the
passenger lists (and therefore EIDB) record the date the steerage
passengers were processed on Ellis Island. Aren't these two dates always
the same? No. The reason is that Ellis Island, particularly >from 1900 to
1914, was often incapable of handling the daily volume of incoming
passengers. Sometimes steerage passengers had to wait on the ship while
it was docked in port for a day, two or three, until they could be brought
to Ellis Island for processing. Whenever I've had a date discrepancy, I
check the NY times, which recorded daily ship arrivals in port, and it has
always matched the Morton-Allan directory date. In fact, if I had been
asked to create the Morton-Allan directory, I would have simply used the
NY times ship arrival listings, and that may have been what was done. For
the immigration organization that created the Morton-Allan directory,
knowing the ship arrival date would have been more than sufficient to
quickly locate the passenger list, because only a handful of ships arrived
each day. Today what people want to know is the passenger-processing
date, which Morton-Allan frequently matches, but not always.


Michael Steinore
San Mateo, CA
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate Polish/German? Records - Translation needed #general

Michael Herzlich
 

I have received >from JRI Poland/AGAD 4 records >from their archives, two
of which I have posted as 4 images (right and left hand page of each
entry). The first two images are a death record of Ester Treiber Herzlich
in 1882. The last two are the birth of Ester Herzlich in 1886. I would
appreciate assistance in getting these documents translated and
understanding their contents. The language should be Polish, but I would
not know. After these two are removed >from viewmate I hope to get the
other two documents uploaded, the death of the child, Ester, and birth of
another child, Selde. Hopefully, >from these four documents I will be able
to see any relationships.

The viewmates (738-741) are located at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1738.html

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1739.html

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1740.html

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1741.html

Please reply directly to me at:
mherzlich@yahoo.com

Thank you for any assitance,
Michael Herzlich
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The much-maligned Morton Allan Directory #general

michael steinore <belaroots@...>
 

From: "Haviva Langenauer" <havival@bellsouth.net>
I have found two different dates for the arrival of the ship. EIDB says
that the Batavia arrived April 24, 1906. The Morton Allan directory says
the ship arrived April 21, 1906. Is there an undisputed source for the
correct date?

It's more a matter of correctly interpreting the dates. My theory is that
Morton-Allan records the date the ship formally docked at port, while the
passenger lists (and therefore EIDB) record the date the steerage
passengers were processed on Ellis Island. Aren't these two dates always
the same? No. The reason is that Ellis Island, particularly >from 1900 to
1914, was often incapable of handling the daily volume of incoming
passengers. Sometimes steerage passengers had to wait on the ship while
it was docked in port for a day, two or three, until they could be brought
to Ellis Island for processing. Whenever I've had a date discrepancy, I
check the NY times, which recorded daily ship arrivals in port, and it has
always matched the Morton-Allan directory date. In fact, if I had been
asked to create the Morton-Allan directory, I would have simply used the
NY times ship arrival listings, and that may have been what was done. For
the immigration organization that created the Morton-Allan directory,
knowing the ship arrival date would have been more than sufficient to
quickly locate the passenger list, because only a handful of ships arrived
each day. Today what people want to know is the passenger-processing
date, which Morton-Allan frequently matches, but not always.


Michael Steinore
San Mateo, CA
Jewish Encyclopedia #general

Chaim freedman
 

Shirley Flaum's announcement about the Jewish Encyclopedia being on line
was most welcome news. It brought back memories of myself over 40 years ago
going through each volume to glean genealogical information, so difficult
to find then in Australia.

Of particular interest are the many genealogical tables, which can be found
using the site's *search*. A list appears under *pedigree*. This material
was sadly ignored when Encyclopedia Judaica was being compiled. Of course
we need to take care with this material, some of which may be superceded
by later research. Very useful also are the many biographies and
descriptions of communities.

Chaim Freedman
Petah Tikvah, Israel
chaimjan@zahav.net.il
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Colonies_of_Ukraine/index.htm
Re: Chassidic dress #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 8/27/2002 12:15:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
israel@math.ubc.ca writes:

I have pictures of family members at the turn of the 20th century (some
>> end of 19th century). I know that it is possible to categorize a
>> tradiional jew by his clothing: Is he a Chassid or a Mitnaged and if a
>> Chassid, what group he belonged to. Is there a reference book that can
>> help me determine where I should categorize my ancestor?
>> Can I deduce more facts >from just a picture? >>

==It depends in part of the extent they are *in uniform,* though perhaps
more so than in the past. Today, shtreimels (furred bonnets worn on
Shabbat and festive occasions, come in many shapes and varieties, as do
the black hats. Some wear long black kapotes, others wear striped ones or
colored. Some wear lace-up shoes, others don't, pantlegs may be stuffed
into the socks, some wear white socks . . . and it's mostly a matter of
what the *rebbe* wore and when.

I remember as a child playing with my father's collection of cigarette
cards showing the various uniforms of the regiments in the Kaiser's army.
I wonder whether anyone has published an album or a set of cards showing
the *uniforms*--festive and quotidian--of the various chasidic sects.

Michael Bernet, New York <mBernet@aol.com>

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina);
BERNET, BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER
National Archives Breaks Ground in Georgia #general

Howard Margol
 

The National Archives and Records Administration will have a nice new
regional building to search census, military and immigration records by
summer 2004. On Monday, August 26 officials broke ground for the new
Southeast Archives facility in Morrow, adjoining Clayton College and State
University. Morrow is just south of Atlanta, Georgia. The facility will be
one of the largest of its kind in the country. It will replace the current
facility in East Point, Ga. The NARA building will share a 19-acre complex
with a new Georgia Department of Archives and History facility. The
complex will include a visitor learning & welcome center, an amphitheater,
a large multifunctional reception & lobby space and a research wing. The
Microfilm Research Room will house up to 60 microfilm readers and 66 film
cabinets, as well as microfiche readers and copy stations. The research
wing will allow researchers to search the Archives' online catalog and
access future Electronic Records.

Howard Margol
Re: Unusual name - SCKKOOL #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 8/27/2002 11:10:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
snillop@tesco.net writes:

<< A First World War soldier who was killed while serving in the British
army was Pte Garshum SCKKOOL. I have found nothing about him so far except
that he was born in Russia and lived in the East End of London. Both of
those facts plus his first name (Gershon?) suggest that he was Jewish, but
his surname is interesting. The spelling is that given in two official
sources bur I wonder how it was pronounced?

==SCK KOOL was killed too soon to have been a contemporary rap singer. I
assume the name is a typo, even if it appears twice in the records.

Try SO[C]KOL, a popular East European Jewish name, borne by one of
Israel's greatest writers and by a prominent American teacher of dance,
both surnamed SOKOLOW. There were many towns in East Europe that started
with the syllables SOKOL. According to Kaganoff, "sokol" is Polish
for "falcon." If so, Sokol may have been a form of the name Falk, which
is a kinnuy for the Hebrew name Yehoshua.

Michael Bernet, New York <mBernet@aol.com>

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina);
BERNET, BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER
Sefer Hatzezoim #general

zerakodesh@...
 

Where can I find or purchase:

Sefer Hatzezoim by Rabbi Shmuel Elazor Halperin (1980).

George Sackheim
Skokie, Illinois
ZeraKodesh@aol.com
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish Encyclopedia #general

Chaim freedman
 

Shirley Flaum's announcement about the Jewish Encyclopedia being on line
was most welcome news. It brought back memories of myself over 40 years ago
going through each volume to glean genealogical information, so difficult
to find then in Australia.

Of particular interest are the many genealogical tables, which can be found
using the site's *search*. A list appears under *pedigree*. This material
was sadly ignored when Encyclopedia Judaica was being compiled. Of course
we need to take care with this material, some of which may be superceded
by later research. Very useful also are the many biographies and
descriptions of communities.

Chaim Freedman
Petah Tikvah, Israel
chaimjan@zahav.net.il
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Colonies_of_Ukraine/index.htm
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Chassidic dress #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 8/27/2002 12:15:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
israel@math.ubc.ca writes:

I have pictures of family members at the turn of the 20th century (some
>> end of 19th century). I know that it is possible to categorize a
>> tradiional jew by his clothing: Is he a Chassid or a Mitnaged and if a
>> Chassid, what group he belonged to. Is there a reference book that can
>> help me determine where I should categorize my ancestor?
>> Can I deduce more facts >from just a picture? >>

==It depends in part of the extent they are *in uniform,* though perhaps
more so than in the past. Today, shtreimels (furred bonnets worn on
Shabbat and festive occasions, come in many shapes and varieties, as do
the black hats. Some wear long black kapotes, others wear striped ones or
colored. Some wear lace-up shoes, others don't, pantlegs may be stuffed
into the socks, some wear white socks . . . and it's mostly a matter of
what the *rebbe* wore and when.

I remember as a child playing with my father's collection of cigarette
cards showing the various uniforms of the regiments in the Kaiser's army.
I wonder whether anyone has published an album or a set of cards showing
the *uniforms*--festive and quotidian--of the various chasidic sects.

Michael Bernet, New York <mBernet@aol.com>

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina);
BERNET, BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen National Archives Breaks Ground in Georgia #general

Howard Margol
 

The National Archives and Records Administration will have a nice new
regional building to search census, military and immigration records by
summer 2004. On Monday, August 26 officials broke ground for the new
Southeast Archives facility in Morrow, adjoining Clayton College and State
University. Morrow is just south of Atlanta, Georgia. The facility will be
one of the largest of its kind in the country. It will replace the current
facility in East Point, Ga. The NARA building will share a 19-acre complex
with a new Georgia Department of Archives and History facility. The
complex will include a visitor learning & welcome center, an amphitheater,
a large multifunctional reception & lobby space and a research wing. The
Microfilm Research Room will house up to 60 microfilm readers and 66 film
cabinets, as well as microfiche readers and copy stations. The research
wing will allow researchers to search the Archives' online catalog and
access future Electronic Records.

Howard Margol
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