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FW: Transylvanian Jewish Records 1900-1940 #hungary

Arik Solomon <Arik@...>
 

Dear SIGers,

I'm forwarding the reply I got >from the distinguished Prof. Gyemant of =
the Cluj-Napoca University.
The question was regarding available vital records in Transylvania >from =
1900-1940.

Enjoy,

Arik Solomon
Petah Tikva
Israel
ariksolo@zahav.net.il

Researching:
SOLOMON (SALAMON,SALOMON), >from TURT (TURCZ)
NEUFELD, >from VAMA (VAMFALU)
GRUN, >from SATU MARE (SZATMAR)
FEIG, >from RUSCOVA (VISOOROSZI)

-----Original Message-----
From: Gyemant Laszlo [mailto:gyemant@zortec.ro]
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 6:01 PM
To: Arik Solomon
Subject: Re: Transylvanian Jewish Records 1900-1940

Dear Mr. Solomon,
I confirm the receipt of your message. For the mentioned places are
available the following resources:
- for the period before 1895 there are rabinical registers of births,
deaths and marriages preserved in the State Archives >from Satu Mare. =
They
begin around 1850 and are preserved better for Satu Mare, and with large
gaps for the villages because in the Holocaust period many of them were
destroyed.
- beginning with 1895 there are state registers which include the
inhabitants of all religious denomination. These registers of births,
deaths and marriages are preserved in the Registry Offices of the
respevtive towns. If you would like to research in the State Archives =
you
need the written approval of the general Direction of the National =
Archives
from Bucharest. For the Registry Offices of the towns it is possible to
obtain so-called extracts if you visit the respective places. There are
preserved too Jewish cemeteries especially in Satu Mare.
Hoping that these informations will be helpful, I remain with the best
wishes
Ladislau =
Gyemant


Hungary SIG #Hungary FW: Transylvanian Jewish Records 1900-1940 #hungary

Arik Solomon <Arik@...>
 

Dear SIGers,

I'm forwarding the reply I got >from the distinguished Prof. Gyemant of =
the Cluj-Napoca University.
The question was regarding available vital records in Transylvania >from =
1900-1940.

Enjoy,

Arik Solomon
Petah Tikva
Israel
ariksolo@zahav.net.il

Researching:
SOLOMON (SALAMON,SALOMON), >from TURT (TURCZ)
NEUFELD, >from VAMA (VAMFALU)
GRUN, >from SATU MARE (SZATMAR)
FEIG, >from RUSCOVA (VISOOROSZI)

-----Original Message-----
From: Gyemant Laszlo [mailto:gyemant@zortec.ro]
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 6:01 PM
To: Arik Solomon
Subject: Re: Transylvanian Jewish Records 1900-1940

Dear Mr. Solomon,
I confirm the receipt of your message. For the mentioned places are
available the following resources:
- for the period before 1895 there are rabinical registers of births,
deaths and marriages preserved in the State Archives >from Satu Mare. =
They
begin around 1850 and are preserved better for Satu Mare, and with large
gaps for the villages because in the Holocaust period many of them were
destroyed.
- beginning with 1895 there are state registers which include the
inhabitants of all religious denomination. These registers of births,
deaths and marriages are preserved in the Registry Offices of the
respevtive towns. If you would like to research in the State Archives =
you
need the written approval of the general Direction of the National =
Archives
from Bucharest. For the Registry Offices of the towns it is possible to
obtain so-called extracts if you visit the respective places. There are
preserved too Jewish cemeteries especially in Satu Mare.
Hoping that these informations will be helpful, I remain with the best
wishes
Ladislau =
Gyemant


GERMAN ORIGIN PENSION #hungary

Michael Kelemen <m.kel@...>
 

The Canadian Jewish News announced that Germany
will pay pensions to anyone whose family is of German
descent - including Jews >from Eastern Europe.

So my cousin's husband asked me to research his family
to see if they came >from any German-speaking country.

This fellow's name is DESZO SCHONBERGER.
He is >from BUDAPEST.

His father, PAL Schonberger, came from
BIHARKERESZTESZ.

Pal Schonberger's father was LIPOT Schonberger.
Family tales says that Lipot, participated in the 1848 uprising.

People had a hard time understanding him because
he hardly spoke any Hungarian, being primarily German
speaking.

If anyone is familiar with the Schonbergers of
Biharkeresztesz - or the German pension law -
I would be interested in hearing about it.

Regards,

Michael Kelemen


1781 Census #hungary

Bob and Diane Hanscom <rodihan@...>
 

Thanks to Henry Wellisch, I've been able to order copies of the 1781
Jewish census of Trencin county, Hungary as well as the city of Trencin.
Even though this census does not include surnames, it has still been a
valuable resource for me. Because I was already aware of naming patterns
within the families I've been studying, I'm starting to identify likely
ancestors.

The census is remarkably legible and provides the name of the head of
household, his wife, and a list of all sons and daughters still residing
with the parents. In subsequent columns, it also lists the names of
servants and other people employed by the head of household.

In Vag Besztercze, there is a name that I cannot decipher. I've looked
through the entire census, and I've noted that the name is a recurring
one. But, each time I look at it, I can't make sense of it. Here is my
interpretation of what I think I'm reading:

Vag Besztercze, 1781
Marcus "VTesek" (?)
wife: Esztera
sons: Moizes, Hershl, and Kalman
daughters: Catharina and Rosalia

also--
Joseff "VPesek" (?)
wife: Esztera
sons: Jacob and Salomon
daughter: Anna

Comparing the first letter to the first letter in other words, I'm quite
certain that this name begins with a "V" and the last three letters are
"s - e - k". But, I cannot seem to go much further. Does anyone
recognize what this name might be?

I would be glad to send anyone photocopies of various pages where this
name appears. Thanks for your help.

Best regards,

Bob Hanscom

Trencin city families: KNOPFELMACHER, TAUBER, ZERKOWITZ, KOHN
Trencin county families: TESCHNER, WILHELM, KOHN


Hungary SIG #Hungary GERMAN ORIGIN PENSION #hungary

Michael Kelemen <m.kel@...>
 

The Canadian Jewish News announced that Germany
will pay pensions to anyone whose family is of German
descent - including Jews >from Eastern Europe.

So my cousin's husband asked me to research his family
to see if they came >from any German-speaking country.

This fellow's name is DESZO SCHONBERGER.
He is >from BUDAPEST.

His father, PAL Schonberger, came from
BIHARKERESZTESZ.

Pal Schonberger's father was LIPOT Schonberger.
Family tales says that Lipot, participated in the 1848 uprising.

People had a hard time understanding him because
he hardly spoke any Hungarian, being primarily German
speaking.

If anyone is familiar with the Schonbergers of
Biharkeresztesz - or the German pension law -
I would be interested in hearing about it.

Regards,

Michael Kelemen


Hungary SIG #Hungary 1781 Census #hungary

Bob and Diane Hanscom <rodihan@...>
 

Thanks to Henry Wellisch, I've been able to order copies of the 1781
Jewish census of Trencin county, Hungary as well as the city of Trencin.
Even though this census does not include surnames, it has still been a
valuable resource for me. Because I was already aware of naming patterns
within the families I've been studying, I'm starting to identify likely
ancestors.

The census is remarkably legible and provides the name of the head of
household, his wife, and a list of all sons and daughters still residing
with the parents. In subsequent columns, it also lists the names of
servants and other people employed by the head of household.

In Vag Besztercze, there is a name that I cannot decipher. I've looked
through the entire census, and I've noted that the name is a recurring
one. But, each time I look at it, I can't make sense of it. Here is my
interpretation of what I think I'm reading:

Vag Besztercze, 1781
Marcus "VTesek" (?)
wife: Esztera
sons: Moizes, Hershl, and Kalman
daughters: Catharina and Rosalia

also--
Joseff "VPesek" (?)
wife: Esztera
sons: Jacob and Salomon
daughter: Anna

Comparing the first letter to the first letter in other words, I'm quite
certain that this name begins with a "V" and the last three letters are
"s - e - k". But, I cannot seem to go much further. Does anyone
recognize what this name might be?

I would be glad to send anyone photocopies of various pages where this
name appears. Thanks for your help.

Best regards,

Bob Hanscom

Trencin city families: KNOPFELMACHER, TAUBER, ZERKOWITZ, KOHN
Trencin county families: TESCHNER, WILHELM, KOHN


The way Jewish Genealogy used to be... and now #general

Yigal Rechtman <rechtman@...>
 

Hello All,

Jewish genealogy used to be a hard thing to come by. Information was
mostly based on scattered sources, and roumors of where to find things
were more prevelant than facts.

Thanks to hard work of a few, and help of many, this changed in the past
decade.

I think that those who come now take for granted the immense value in
JewishGen. We should not take it for granted. Go on line, take your credit
card and make a small donation to Jewishgen. Do it before this Rosh
Hashana and then again sometime this winter.

A once a year visit to the donation web page, can make a year-round
research happen. No one else will foot that bill for us. We better
maintain it ourselves.

Thanks.
--
-Yigal Rechtman
rechtman@aol.com
www.rechtman.com
www.rechtman.info


Velvel MARGOLIS #general

sallybru <sallybru@...>
 

In my research, a relative mentioned that a daughter of Shayna Leah
RUSLANDER and Abraham Isaac STOLOWSKI married Rabbi Velvel MARGOLIS. I am
hoping to find someone who knows this family which had a son, Jack, at Yale
University-as a student or professor or floor cleaner, I don't know.

Sally Bruckheimer
Albany, NY

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The way Jewish Genealogy used to be... and now #general

Yigal Rechtman <rechtman@...>
 

Hello All,

Jewish genealogy used to be a hard thing to come by. Information was
mostly based on scattered sources, and roumors of where to find things
were more prevelant than facts.

Thanks to hard work of a few, and help of many, this changed in the past
decade.

I think that those who come now take for granted the immense value in
JewishGen. We should not take it for granted. Go on line, take your credit
card and make a small donation to Jewishgen. Do it before this Rosh
Hashana and then again sometime this winter.

A once a year visit to the donation web page, can make a year-round
research happen. No one else will foot that bill for us. We better
maintain it ourselves.

Thanks.
--
-Yigal Rechtman
rechtman@aol.com
www.rechtman.com
www.rechtman.info


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Velvel MARGOLIS #general

sallybru <sallybru@...>
 

In my research, a relative mentioned that a daughter of Shayna Leah
RUSLANDER and Abraham Isaac STOLOWSKI married Rabbi Velvel MARGOLIS. I am
hoping to find someone who knows this family which had a son, Jack, at Yale
University-as a student or professor or floor cleaner, I don't know.

Sally Bruckheimer
Albany, NY

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Boston HIAS Records from LDS - Partial #general

Dream Builder <dreambuilder@...>
 

I am working on transcribing the partial HIAS records I have photographed
from the LDS records.
The only records I have involving Boston are:

ZIM, Isaac male 22 >from Russia Ship Westernland 19 AUG 1907 to Boston, MA
ZALUTSKY, Shoshe female 28 >from Russia Ship Haverford 05 NOV 1907 to
Boston, MA
ZAG?D, Galki female 19 >from ? Ship Haverford 17 FEB 1908 to Boston, MA

It's fairly easy to obtain LDS records if you are near a FHC. I had to send
twice to obtain the one I was looking for, though, because the number was
incorrect. It took an extra week, but they only charged me once. The staff
at the FHC was very helpful.

Vicki Ina Friedman
Waleska, GA, USA
dreambuilder@alltel.net

---Original Message---
The LDS has films for HIAS. I know that they have them for NY and
Philadelphia, there may be some for Boston as well. You can check online
at http://www.familysearch.org

Hope that this helps.

Linda Altman - Raleigh, NC


NYC Truck Accidents #general

Dream Builder <dreambuilder@...>
 

Apparently, New York City truck drivers were dangerous -

My paternal great-grandmother Sarah THURLIN / TURCHIN (FRIEDMAN) was killed
about 1925 when she was hit by truck that left the road. She was on the
sidewalk on a Friday afternoon giving challahs to the poor when she was
struck and killed. Or so the story goes . . .

Vicki Ina Friedman
Waleska, GA, USA
dreambuilder@alltel.net

Shawn Weil wrote:

My GGreatgrandmother had 9 children, 8 of which survived to adulthood.
Family lore says that the child who passed away before his time was run
over in the streets of the Lower East Side by a beer wagon, while my
grandfather was supposed to be supervising. However, my grandfather was
the youngest of the 8 siblings that survived, and he wouldn't have been
older than 3 years old himself. I doubt the family story, and would like
corroboration in documentation.


Look-up on Graves in London Cemeteries. #general

Nigel Wilson <wilsonettes@...>
 

Dear Genners,

As many of you will be visiting London cemeteries before Rosh Hashana
I wonder if someone could look-up names on certain tombstones in the
Rainham Cemetery, East Ham Cemetery,and Edmonton Cemetery. I have the
exact plots and nos etc.

Please reply to me personally.

Thank you for your time.

Shana Tova to all.

Patricia Wilson (Israel)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Boston HIAS Records from LDS - Partial #general

Dream Builder <dreambuilder@...>
 

I am working on transcribing the partial HIAS records I have photographed
from the LDS records.
The only records I have involving Boston are:

ZIM, Isaac male 22 >from Russia Ship Westernland 19 AUG 1907 to Boston, MA
ZALUTSKY, Shoshe female 28 >from Russia Ship Haverford 05 NOV 1907 to
Boston, MA
ZAG?D, Galki female 19 >from ? Ship Haverford 17 FEB 1908 to Boston, MA

It's fairly easy to obtain LDS records if you are near a FHC. I had to send
twice to obtain the one I was looking for, though, because the number was
incorrect. It took an extra week, but they only charged me once. The staff
at the FHC was very helpful.

Vicki Ina Friedman
Waleska, GA, USA
dreambuilder@alltel.net

---Original Message---
The LDS has films for HIAS. I know that they have them for NY and
Philadelphia, there may be some for Boston as well. You can check online
at http://www.familysearch.org

Hope that this helps.

Linda Altman - Raleigh, NC


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen NYC Truck Accidents #general

Dream Builder <dreambuilder@...>
 

Apparently, New York City truck drivers were dangerous -

My paternal great-grandmother Sarah THURLIN / TURCHIN (FRIEDMAN) was killed
about 1925 when she was hit by truck that left the road. She was on the
sidewalk on a Friday afternoon giving challahs to the poor when she was
struck and killed. Or so the story goes . . .

Vicki Ina Friedman
Waleska, GA, USA
dreambuilder@alltel.net

Shawn Weil wrote:

My GGreatgrandmother had 9 children, 8 of which survived to adulthood.
Family lore says that the child who passed away before his time was run
over in the streets of the Lower East Side by a beer wagon, while my
grandfather was supposed to be supervising. However, my grandfather was
the youngest of the 8 siblings that survived, and he wouldn't have been
older than 3 years old himself. I doubt the family story, and would like
corroboration in documentation.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Look-up on Graves in London Cemeteries. #general

Nigel Wilson <wilsonettes@...>
 

Dear Genners,

As many of you will be visiting London cemeteries before Rosh Hashana
I wonder if someone could look-up names on certain tombstones in the
Rainham Cemetery, East Ham Cemetery,and Edmonton Cemetery. I have the
exact plots and nos etc.

Please reply to me personally.

Thank you for your time.

Shana Tova to all.

Patricia Wilson (Israel)


SS-5s for SCHERR,SCHINE,SCHWARTZ,LEVIN #general

TomHennie <tomhennie@...>
 

I have five copies of Social Security applications which have no relevance
to my family. I would be happy to send them on to anyone who is
interested. The individuals are: Eddie SCHERR, born 1/10/1909 in IN, son
of Eddie SCHERR and Sarah LIPSCHICH, Louis SCHINE, born 4/4/1892 in
Poland, son of Harry SCHINE and Pesha SIEGENDORF, Louis SCHWARTZ, born
9/3/1903 in Chicago, son of Sam Schwartz and Sarah Weiss, Harold James
SCHWARTZ, born in Sharon, WI, son of Benjamin SCHWARTZ and Marion Knilans,
and Alexander LEVIN, born in Russia, son of Samual LEVIN and Rebecca
FINKELSTEIN.

Hennie Greenland
Scottsdale, AZ

Researching: >from Lithuania: SCHER, ALSCHWANGER, LOPATO, KULP(E),
GLASER, KRIEGER, YANKELOWICH
from Boryslav, Stryy, and Lesko: MOLDAUER, GINSBURG, KRIESBERG
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Lutowishg #general

Mark Berkowitz <mberk@...>
 

Dear Genners,
Has anyone ever heard of a town called called Lutowishg I have no idea
where this is but it appears as the place of residence of the GRUMER part
of my family whose ethnicity appears to be Russian according to
the Ellis Island Data Base . Any help with this would be greatly
appreciated.
Sincerly Yours
Mark Berkowitz.


Re Levy MATTHIAS or Herrmann HEYMANN #general

Pam G <pgosl@...>
 

Hello,

This is a longshot but wondering if anyone on this list is connected to
either of the names above, or has any knowledge of these people from
Hamburg. They signed my g-grandmother's marriage certificate in the 1880's
as witnesses (bride's name was Adele Auguste Judell who married Louis
Leffmann). Any information about either this particular HEYMANN or
MATTHIAS family would help me to uncover some mysteries surrounding my
family. The address on the certificate is handwritten, difficult to
decipher, possibly Loghienstrasse 34(?).

Thanks so much for any possible leads. Please respond privately.

Sincerely,

Pamela Leffmann-Gosling , Pittsburg, USA
Searching:
LEFFMANN, Hamburg JUDELL/FIEDEL/SIEDEL/JUDEL, Hamburg/ Hannover
MAGNUS, Hamburg RENDSBURG, Hamburg
HIRSCH/HIRSCHFELD, Hannover, Holland, Hamburg, London
OPPENHEIMER/ODENHEIMER, Hamburg, Brussels
SCHUSTER, Hamburg


DODELL to SIEGEL #general

Barbara S Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 

I am researching the DODELL family. I am seeking the descendants of a son
of a Herschel Lieb DODEL.

Herschel Lieb DODEL was born in 1859 in Toporow, Poland, and died in 1917.
Herschel and his wife, Marjem Sura PFEFFER, had 15 children:

1. Berisch b. 1880 (called Benjamin in the US)
2. David Zmarl b. 1882
3, Chaja b. 1887
4. Rosie b. 1888
5. Basia b.1889
6. Nachman b. 1891
7. Becky b. 1892
8. Jenny b. 1894
9. Ruchel b.1897
10. Szulom b. 1899
11. Chaim b. 1901 (Hyman in the US
12. Cine b. 1904 (Sylvia in US)
13. Samuel b. 1907
14. Goldie b. 1909
15. Schmeil Mutria "Harry" SIEGEL b. 1884

# 1, 4, 5, 7, 8, 11, 13 came to the US.
# 2, 3, 9, 10 were killed in the Holocaust.
# 6, 14 died in infancy in Toporow.
# 12, fate unknown.

# 15. Schmeil Mutria b. 1884, went to England, took the surname
SIEGEL, and may have been known as "Harry" SIEGEL in England.

Some family members said that he had 5 children, two of whom might have
been named Annie and Harry, others say he never married.

He may have been a comedian, may have lived in Leeds.

Does this strike a chord with anyone?

Barbara S Mannlein
4919 N Bonita Ridge Ave
Tucson, Arizona
USA

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