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Re: Zlotnick

Jerry Krassner
 

Bruce- I too have a ZLOTNICK interest. A relative of mine (exact connection is under evaluation but a DNA match is involved) is the grandson of Myra ZLOTNICK and Mark LEAS, of Capetown S Africa. Myra and her sisters (Ruby, Rhoda, Doris, Iris, Alma, Lucille, Zena) were daughters of Hymie ZLOTNICK and Anna KUWTER (~1882-1940). Although Hymie and Anna lived in Capetown, I suspect a Lithuanian ancestry.

Hymie had a brother who came to USA ~1904 and changed his name to SILVERMAN. No other information available.

Does any of this sound familiar?- Jerry

Re: Comments about format change

David Brostoff
 

On Oct 14, 2019, at 4:07 PM, Carolyn Lea <leacl7@...> wrote:

I tried to login to Jgen and it says I don't have a password. Do we all have to change our password?
If by Jgen you mean this page <https://groups.jewishgen.org/g/main>, that is only for the JewishGen.org Discussion Group.

(The green title "JewishGen.org: The Global Home for Jewish Genealogy" is misleading -- the "regular" JewishGen.org site remains where it has always been and can be accessed as usual.)

So, you don't have to change your password for the regular site but you do have to create a new password if you want to log on to the discussion group online.

To do that, click the green "Log in if you are already a member" button near the bottom of the page, then on the resulting page click "Forgot your password, or don't have one yet?".

Enter your email address and click "Email me a link to log in," and when you get the link, click it to log in and create a password for the discussion group site.

Note that your regular JewishGen.org account will remain unchanged.

David

Re: Cherkassy-Smela #Ukraine

JudiZimmer
 

Hoping to find more information about my grandfather, Max Rothstein (Smela)His father and grandfather, Shlomo and Nachum (Rotshteyn), his uncle Shimon, Shimon's children Isaak, Shlomo, Max, Rosa and Riva. Also from Cherkassy, my great-grandmother Chaya Kosminsky, her parents Pincus and Bessie (obviously Anglicized), my great-uncle Nissen (Nathan) Kosminsky, my great-aunt  Chave Kosminsky, Nissen's wife Gittel Cherkasy and her parents, Jonah and Tolia Tovorovsky. As you can see, I have extensive family from both Smela and Cherkassy, but I think my grandfather Max must have had siblings and I'm trying to find them and their descendants. I remember an aunt, Tante Perel, but have no information about her, other than she was from his side of the family. I could never connect them as siblings.

Thanks,
Judi Rothstein Zimmer

Re: Cherkassy-Smela #Ukraine

JudiZimmer
 

Hoping to find more information about my grandfather, Max Rothstein (Smela)His father and grandfather, Shlomo and Nachum (Rotshteyn), his uncle Shimon, Shimon's children Isaak, Shlomo, Max, Rosa and Riva. Also from Cherkassy, my great-grandmother Chaya Kosminsky, her parents Pincus and Bessie (obviously Anglicized), my great-uncle Nissen (Nathan) Kosminsky, my great-aunt  Chave Kosminsky, Nissen's wife Gittel Cherkasy and her parents, Jonah and Tolia Tovorovsky. As you can see, I have extensive family from both Smela and Cherkassy, but I think my grandfather Max must have had siblings and I'm trying to find them and their descendants. I remember an aunt, Tante Perel, but have no information about her, other than she was from his side of the family. I could never connect them as siblings.

Thanks,
Judi Rothstein Zimmer

Re: Digest

sjgwed@...
 

I, too, requested a summary - one per day - but now receive digests every hour at least, day after day! I would think the servers would deliver the digest in the same form that members received it previously. One per day is plenty, please.

Susan Gordon

new format

jbonline1111@...
 


There is much I like about the new format, including the ability to skip directly to messages that interest me.  I now see that I can cut-and-paste previous comments if I wish, but they no longer appear automatically, which was convenient.  I can also reply directly from my email client (Google, in this case) without going to the website, just as before.  

However, the roll-out has been problematic.  Why am I now receiving 3-4 Daily Digests a day instead of one?  Is there a limit on the number of messages for a digest, perhaps?  

Why do some posts have no private email addresses to which we can reply?  That requires public replies when that is not necessary?  

I assume these bugs will be worked out sooner or later, but I hope it's sooner.

Barbara Sloan

New format

Stephen Katz
 

The new format is not an improvement. It is too complicated to be useful. The ultimate objective of users is to do genealogical research, and the digest should be merely a tool to facilitate research. Users should not have to spend their time grappling with and navigating around its many idiosyncrasies. One example: like others, I was receiving each day a frankly ridiculous number of emails containing messages posted to the digest, until I figured out how to opt to receive only the daily summary. But now, in order to read posts listed on the daily summary, I have to click on a posts's heading, which takes me to a different page, and then, after I've read the post, I have to navigate back to the daily digest to see what other posts I might be interest, and then repeat the process. This is definitely far too cumbersome to be useful.

Stephen Katz

Re: SIG emails

Omri Arnon
 

same here. I understand there was no change to the SIGs but I stopped getting emails as of when this new group started. a coincidence?

Re: Digests vs Daily Summary

Dan Karlan
 

If it's possible for me to get a Daily Summary, then why can't I subscribe to a TRUE Daily Digest? The summary only has the titles, and each title links to a web page. At least the digests had all the information I want to see right there in the e-mail (minus a "top" link to return to the listing of titles). But repeated (sometimes 3 or 4 in the space of 5 minutes) digests are NOT "daily". They are simply a nuisance.

Dan Karlan

Re: Replying individually to someone who has posted a message

bjls@...
 

Barbara, when I click on the sender's name, I do not get an email address. Does this approach work when you receive emails in a digest or daily summary or only when you receive the emails individually?  Any guidance you can offer would be helpful. Thanks. -Jodi Benjamin 

Re: All of my hashtags are locked, #Help

bjls@...
 

Fran,

I think the picture you showed indicates that your hashtags are unmuted. If you wanted to mute them, you would click on the mute button. Like you, I'm still trying to understand how to get messages from the SIG groups and whether the SIGs from the old system correspond to the hashtags in the new system.

Seeking clarity,

Jodi Benjamin

Re: Replying individually to someone who has posted a message

Bruce Drake
 

Barbara ... Does this work in the digests? I just clicked on your name in your reply to me and it showed nothing. The digests are the only way I see these messages as my inbox is too busy to received individual ones

Replying to messages and besieged with digests

Janette Silverman
 

It would probably cut down the number of meaningless (to most
subscribers) messages if people would start responding directly to a
person rather than the digest when the message is personal. A lot of
the conversations that are part of this new "plan" are really
meaningless to most readers. It is of course really difficult to
respond to a person when all that shows up is a person's name, no
email address and there is not an option that is easy to see which
allows for responding directly to a person rather than the group. Also
having messages with no discernible name of the author doesn't help if
you wanted to know who the person submitting the message is.

Keeping the discourse polite should also still be observed, which I
have noticed over the last several days is not always the case.

Janette Silverman

23andMe Loses Appeal Court Unpatentability for Identifying Relatives Against Ancestry #DNA

Jan Meisels Allen
 

   

 

 

23AndMe sued Ancestry in a federal court in 2018 for infringement on its patents that describes a method of analyzing “identical by descent” regions of the genome and determining the degree to which two people in their database are related. In August 2108 that court found that the claim was “patent-ineligible” because they do not relate to any “inventive, unconventional technique’ related to their discovery or application.  Last week, the US Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit affirmed the lower court ruling, finding against 23andMe who had appealed the lower court’s decision. The August 2018 ruling by U.S. District Judge Edward Chen in San Francisco, that was upheld invalidated 23andMe’s patent because it was directed to a “law of nature” that cannot be patented.

 

To read more see: 

https://www.genomeweb.com/business-news/appeals-court-upholds-unpatentability-23andme-ip

 

Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 

 

Re: websites and aids

Angie Elfassi
 

Hi

I am not clear - sorry - are you offering help to set up a webpage?

Regards and thanks
Angie Elfassi
Israel

Re: #Digest #digest

Angie Elfassi
 

Regarding jewsfrombukovina@... email

I would like to be able to see the thread, otherwise, if, I only read my emails, say, after a few days it will become very confusing.

Otherwise, the fact that I dont have to send my mail as plain text, and that I can add photos or other information, is great!

Regards
Angie Elfassi
Israel

Daily summary; margins; format #Help

malka_f1@...
 

I'm a long standing Jewish Genner.  It's a wonderful research tool and I have learnt a great deal from reading all the messages over the years.  

Following helpful advice on here, i changed to the daily summary (or whatever nomenclature is now used) and i see 2 sections: the first being the subject header and the second being the messages.  As other Genners have pointed out, this is not user friendly, it is counter intuitive.  I felt dismayed.  Clearly this needs a rethink.  

Margins: pre the new format, the daily digest arrived, i opened it on my laptop and voila i could see all the messages neatly displayed on my screen.  Now, for some reason, I can't see from the beginning to the end of each line without moving my space bar back and forth.  This is user unfriendly.  However, on checking the new format on my kindle and phone, there isn't a problem with the display.  So whilst you have improved the display for other devices, for those of us who prefer to use a PC/laptop, there is now an issue.  Can this margins issue please be investigated and resolved for laptop users. 

Format: The previous format was simpler, easy to navigate.  I'm not an IT person, but neither am I a dinosaur, so whilst I understand the need for some change eg the use of different alphabets, the old format should have been retained whilst bringing on board the new innovations.  'why fix what ain't broke'?  

The words 'baby and bath water' come to mind.  

Clearly there needs to be a major rethink on a number of aspects of the new format. 

Malka
London, UK 



 

Re: I'm still confused (but at a much higher level now!)

S&D Hirschhorn
 

I want to receive individual emails as before. I appreciate that it is no longer necessary to use plain text and that attachments are possible, etc.  However, I seem unable to understand what many of the writers are telling us about what they have done to receive one summary a day. 
 
I don’t want that either.  I much prefer just receiving individual messages from the Discussion Group which allows me to delete or read or follow a thread that interests me.
 
Help!
 
Sandra Hirschhorn
Monroe Township, NJ

Re: SIG emails

Omri Arnon
 

sorry, just got some from H-Sig :)

On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 6:07 PM Omri Arnon <arnon.omri@...> wrote:
same here. I understand there was no change to the SIGs but I stopped getting emails as of when this new group started. a coincidence?

Given names database search failing with an error

Dror Bereznitsky
 

The Jewish given names database search is failing with an error for the last couple of days.
Trying to search results with an "HTTP Error 503. The service is unavailable" error message.