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Surname ALK #lithuania

BABYCAT3@...
 

I found listings for Elkon, Mina and Rachela ALK in the Vilnius Ghetto on the Jewishgen Holocaust Database. I am wondering if anyone else has any of these names in their research. My guess is the Rachela is the wife and there is no maiden name given for her. Mina appears to be a child.
Any info welcomed.

Thank you.
Barbara Meyers
Stanhope, NJ
babycat3@aol.com

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately with family information.


Kupisker Society in Johannesburg, 1947 #lithuania

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

This is to let you all know that a new photo has been added to the Kupishok, Lithuania ShtetLink Site on JewishGen. It is of the Kupisker Society in Johannesburg in 1947. The photo was taken on the occasion of the visit of Rabbi Ephraim Oshry and his wife to South Africa. The photo is accompanied by a table which lists the names of all the attendees (where known).

I hope those of you who are either related to or descended >from Kupishokers
will look at the site as well as those who are >from Johannesburg and might
recognize some of the attendees in the photo.

Please let me know if you recognize someone who has an unknown by their
name.

The photo can be viewed by going to the following address:

http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/kupiskis/kupishok.htm

Then, click on Kupisker Society.

Thanks,
Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Surname ALK #lithuania

BABYCAT3@...
 

I found listings for Elkon, Mina and Rachela ALK in the Vilnius Ghetto on the Jewishgen Holocaust Database. I am wondering if anyone else has any of these names in their research. My guess is the Rachela is the wife and there is no maiden name given for her. Mina appears to be a child.
Any info welcomed.

Thank you.
Barbara Meyers
Stanhope, NJ
babycat3@aol.com

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately with family information.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Kupisker Society in Johannesburg, 1947 #lithuania

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

This is to let you all know that a new photo has been added to the Kupishok, Lithuania ShtetLink Site on JewishGen. It is of the Kupisker Society in Johannesburg in 1947. The photo was taken on the occasion of the visit of Rabbi Ephraim Oshry and his wife to South Africa. The photo is accompanied by a table which lists the names of all the attendees (where known).

I hope those of you who are either related to or descended >from Kupishokers
will look at the site as well as those who are >from Johannesburg and might
recognize some of the attendees in the photo.

Please let me know if you recognize someone who has an unknown by their
name.

The photo can be viewed by going to the following address:

http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/kupiskis/kupishok.htm

Then, click on Kupisker Society.

Thanks,
Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


Looking for Janos MERVAY and wife #ukraine

DUMAY, Jocelyne
 

Janos MERVAY was born in 1906 and died in 1986 ; perhaps is he a relative of
my gfather named Henri MERVAY and born in Paris in 1898, son of Armand
Mervay born in 1867 ; perhaps, he is buried in the cemetery of Beregovo. If
anybody knows it exists lists of buried persons in this cemetery, thank you.

Jocelyne Dumay
Paris


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Looking for Janos MERVAY and wife #ukraine

DUMAY, Jocelyne
 

Janos MERVAY was born in 1906 and died in 1986 ; perhaps is he a relative of
my gfather named Henri MERVAY and born in Paris in 1898, son of Armand
Mervay born in 1867 ; perhaps, he is buried in the cemetery of Beregovo. If
anybody knows it exists lists of buried persons in this cemetery, thank you.

Jocelyne Dumay
Paris


Useful Site - Rabbinical Eulogies #rabbinic

Chaim freedman
 

I highly recommend the following site which has eulogies and
biographies of many rabbis:

Gedolim of Recent and Past Generations:
http://www.tzemachdovid.org/gedolim/

Chaim Freedman
Petah Tikvah, Israel
mailto:chaimjan@zahav.net.il


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Useful Site - Rabbinical Eulogies #rabbinic

Chaim freedman
 

I highly recommend the following site which has eulogies and
biographies of many rabbis:

Gedolim of Recent and Past Generations:
http://www.tzemachdovid.org/gedolim/

Chaim Freedman
Petah Tikvah, Israel
mailto:chaimjan@zahav.net.il


Re: France: A city--"La Machine (Nievre)" #general

Lifshitz-Krams Anne
 


Does anyone know where the city of "La Machine" is? And perhaps is Nievre
a
province or locality?

Dan
........................................................
=== La Machine is a small town in departement Nievre (Center of France)
postal code: 58260

As Juliette Jourdan was born in 1906 you will probably not obtain a complete
birth act before 2006.

Cordially

Anne Lifshitz-Krams
CGJ Paris France


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: France: A city--"La Machine (Nievre)" #general

Lifshitz-Krams Anne
 


Does anyone know where the city of "La Machine" is? And perhaps is Nievre
a
province or locality?

Dan
........................................................
=== La Machine is a small town in departement Nievre (Center of France)
postal code: 58260

As Juliette Jourdan was born in 1906 you will probably not obtain a complete
birth act before 2006.

Cordially

Anne Lifshitz-Krams
CGJ Paris France


Re: France: A city--"La Machine (Nievre)" #general

BasGinger@...
 

Daniel,

La Machine is a small town (8,000 inhabitants in 1970). Nievre is a
departement (number 58), an administrative subdivision of the country: there
are 96 of them in continental France. The chef-lieu of the Nievre (a kind of
capital of the departement) is Nevers. The former provinces (replaced, with
several changes, by the regions) are usually composed of two to eight
departements.

In La Machine there is a mairie (town hall), you could write there (58260 La
Machine), but as you know the "100 years law" would prevent you >from getting
complete birth or marriage records unless you indicate the complete names of
both parents. Excerpts (with the marginal notes), and death certificates, are
available to anybody. If the person died after 1945 this should have been
indicated, with the corresponding data, as a marginal note on the birth
certificate (I know you have it).

Basile Ginger, CGJ
(Cercle de Genealogie Juive, International JGS in Paris)
http://www.genealoj.org

Searching for: GINGER (Yavorov, Brody, Kishinev), BLUMENFELD (Lublin,
Kishinev), PRISMAN (Kretinga, Liepaja), GRINFELD (Brody, Kishinev),
HIRSCHBERG (Jelgava), KLEIN (only >from Odessa).


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: France: A city--"La Machine (Nievre)" #general

BasGinger@...
 

Daniel,

La Machine is a small town (8,000 inhabitants in 1970). Nievre is a
departement (number 58), an administrative subdivision of the country: there
are 96 of them in continental France. The chef-lieu of the Nievre (a kind of
capital of the departement) is Nevers. The former provinces (replaced, with
several changes, by the regions) are usually composed of two to eight
departements.

In La Machine there is a mairie (town hall), you could write there (58260 La
Machine), but as you know the "100 years law" would prevent you >from getting
complete birth or marriage records unless you indicate the complete names of
both parents. Excerpts (with the marginal notes), and death certificates, are
available to anybody. If the person died after 1945 this should have been
indicated, with the corresponding data, as a marginal note on the birth
certificate (I know you have it).

Basile Ginger, CGJ
(Cercle de Genealogie Juive, International JGS in Paris)
http://www.genealoj.org

Searching for: GINGER (Yavorov, Brody, Kishinev), BLUMENFELD (Lublin,
Kishinev), PRISMAN (Kretinga, Liepaja), GRINFELD (Brody, Kishinev),
HIRSCHBERG (Jelgava), KLEIN (only >from Odessa).


Re: HAMBUG(ER) , DE JONG and GRAANBOOM in Netherlands ,19th #general

Stefan Pinkus <s.pinkus@...>
 

The burial lists of Muiderberg and Zeeburg can be ordered at the Netherlands
Society for Jewish Genealogy,
http://www.nljewgen.org.

Regards,

Stefan Pinkus

At Friday 17-1-2003 00:00 -0600, "Mendelssohn" wrote:

From: "Mendelssohn" <mendelssohn@worldonline.fr>

I am also researching informations on the following cemeteries : Muiderberg
,Zeeburg and Ouderkerk : please contact me privately if you have access to
Burrial Lists !

Best regards ,
Florence Mendelssohn (Paris)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: HAMBUG(ER) , DE JONG and GRAANBOOM in Netherlands ,19th #general

Stefan Pinkus <s.pinkus@...>
 

The burial lists of Muiderberg and Zeeburg can be ordered at the Netherlands
Society for Jewish Genealogy,
http://www.nljewgen.org.

Regards,

Stefan Pinkus

At Friday 17-1-2003 00:00 -0600, "Mendelssohn" wrote:

From: "Mendelssohn" <mendelssohn@worldonline.fr>

I am also researching informations on the following cemeteries : Muiderberg
,Zeeburg and Ouderkerk : please contact me privately if you have access to
Burrial Lists !

Best regards ,
Florence Mendelssohn (Paris)


Re: "Zolotoy Potok"? "Potok Zloty"? #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Naomi Fatouros wrote:

But I confess I am a little confused, because "Where We Once Walked" has
an
entry for a "Zolotoy Potok" with these alternative spellings: "Potek
Zolti,"
"Potik," "Potok Zloti," "Potok Zloty," and"Zloti Potok," WWOW says it had
a
pre-WW II Jewish population of 895 and that it is 75 kilometers northwest
of
Chernovsty. Its map coordinates are 48'54/25'20.

But "Where we Once Walked" also has an entry for a "Zloty Potok" whose
pre-
WWII Jewish population was only 7. It is 26 kilometers east southeast of
Czestochowa, and its map cooderinates are 50'43/29'27.

That the above map coordinates do not vary widely it is possible that the
sources I've consulted are describing the same village and not two
different
ones. Or, it is possible that there was an older village that later
established a flour mill which was downstream or upstream >from the
village
and was given the same name. ( I think it was Alexander Sharon who
recently
explained a similar situation with regard to another village.)
Naomi,

Just to clarify the issue.

Prior to WWII there were in Poland two separate towns located about 300
apart.
Town Potok Zloty was located in Tarnopol Province. Current town name in
Ukrainian is Zolotyy Potik and town is still the part of the Ternopil
Province, Ukraine.
Prewar town name Zloty Potok in Czestochowa region has not changed.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary. Ab.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: "Zolotoy Potok"? "Potok Zloty"? #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Naomi Fatouros wrote:

But I confess I am a little confused, because "Where We Once Walked" has
an
entry for a "Zolotoy Potok" with these alternative spellings: "Potek
Zolti,"
"Potik," "Potok Zloti," "Potok Zloty," and"Zloti Potok," WWOW says it had
a
pre-WW II Jewish population of 895 and that it is 75 kilometers northwest
of
Chernovsty. Its map coordinates are 48'54/25'20.

But "Where we Once Walked" also has an entry for a "Zloty Potok" whose
pre-
WWII Jewish population was only 7. It is 26 kilometers east southeast of
Czestochowa, and its map cooderinates are 50'43/29'27.

That the above map coordinates do not vary widely it is possible that the
sources I've consulted are describing the same village and not two
different
ones. Or, it is possible that there was an older village that later
established a flour mill which was downstream or upstream >from the
village
and was given the same name. ( I think it was Alexander Sharon who
recently
explained a similar situation with regard to another village.)
Naomi,

Just to clarify the issue.

Prior to WWII there were in Poland two separate towns located about 300
apart.
Town Potok Zloty was located in Tarnopol Province. Current town name in
Ukrainian is Zolotyy Potik and town is still the part of the Ternopil
Province, Ukraine.
Prewar town name Zloty Potok in Czestochowa region has not changed.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary. Ab.


Search for Hungarian Deportee #general

Fritz Neubauer
 

Dear Eve,

you could try the Dachau list because quite a lot of Hungarian Jews
arrived there in 1944. I know that because I have entered some of the
data and suddenly in 1944 you have all these Hungarian names appearing.
It's worth a try, especially if the name happens to be early in the alphabet

http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/0050_DachauIndexing.html

Otherwise you could also ask the Dachau museum directly:

info@kz-gedenkstaette-dachau.de

With kind regards

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany

Eve wrote:

Subject: Budapest Ghetto

Is it possible to make searches to know the fate of am man who was
taken >from the Budapest Ghetto in October 1944, towards an "unknown
direction" ? Any information would be welcome.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Search for Hungarian Deportee #general

Fritz Neubauer
 

Dear Eve,

you could try the Dachau list because quite a lot of Hungarian Jews
arrived there in 1944. I know that because I have entered some of the
data and suddenly in 1944 you have all these Hungarian names appearing.
It's worth a try, especially if the name happens to be early in the alphabet

http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/0050_DachauIndexing.html

Otherwise you could also ask the Dachau museum directly:

info@kz-gedenkstaette-dachau.de

With kind regards

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany

Eve wrote:

Subject: Budapest Ghetto

Is it possible to make searches to know the fate of am man who was
taken >from the Budapest Ghetto in October 1944, towards an "unknown
direction" ? Any information would be welcome.


finds on HADIS (Hessen archives catalog) #germany

Renee Steinig <rsteinig@...>
 

On 9 Jan. 2003, Marion Bernstein <hlb@texas.net> wrote to tell us about
HADIS <www.hadis.hessen.de>, the searchable online catalog of the three
major archives of Hessen (Darmstadt, Marburg, and Wiesbaden).

She advised...

<<One useful trick -- if you are looking for a common name or a large
town, you might want to phrase your search as "Town AND Jud*" -- using the
wildcard suffix that will pull up anything that contains the German words
for Jew or Jews.>>

Based on my search experience, I'd like to add another suggestion...

If your family was >from a small town, try a search combining the surname
and town name. Doing so I found -- to my amazement and delight - ancestors
named in document descriptions.

1) Vorstellung der Schutz- und Handelsjuden Meyer Romann, Levi Goldschmidt
und Salomon Isenburger zu Melbach wegen der von der Gemeinde verweigerten
Behtung der Wege und Stoppelfelder mit ihrem Rindvieh (1813)

2) Israelitische Religionsgemeinde zu Gedern ./. Loeb Stern zu Gedern und
umgekehrt: Mitgliedschaft und Besitzstoerung; Benutzung eines
Synagogenstandes (1856)

3) Firma Gebrueder Stern zu Meerholz und Viehhaendler Gustav Hamberger zu
Alzenau gegen den Metzger Johannes Simon, Johannes' Sohn zu Neuses wegen
Anfechtung einer Forderung (1913)

Salomon ISENBURGER (#1) and Loeb STERN (#2) were two of my paternal
gg-grandfathers. My grandfather and his brother were the "Gebrueder Stern"
in #3. Based on my limited German, I gather that GG-Grandpa Salomon had an
issue with the town regarding where his cattle could go; that
GG_Grandpa Loeb's document involved synagogue business; and that Butcher
Simon and his son were contesting a payment to Brothers Stern and
Cattledealer Hamburger (!). More refined translations would be most
welcome - privately, please.

Thanks so much to Marion for alerting us to this site. Renee

Renee Stern Steinig Dix Hills, New York, USA RSteinig@suffolk.lib.ny.us


German SIG #Germany finds on HADIS (Hessen archives catalog) #germany

Renee Steinig <rsteinig@...>
 

On 9 Jan. 2003, Marion Bernstein <hlb@texas.net> wrote to tell us about
HADIS <www.hadis.hessen.de>, the searchable online catalog of the three
major archives of Hessen (Darmstadt, Marburg, and Wiesbaden).

She advised...

<<One useful trick -- if you are looking for a common name or a large
town, you might want to phrase your search as "Town AND Jud*" -- using the
wildcard suffix that will pull up anything that contains the German words
for Jew or Jews.>>

Based on my search experience, I'd like to add another suggestion...

If your family was >from a small town, try a search combining the surname
and town name. Doing so I found -- to my amazement and delight - ancestors
named in document descriptions.

1) Vorstellung der Schutz- und Handelsjuden Meyer Romann, Levi Goldschmidt
und Salomon Isenburger zu Melbach wegen der von der Gemeinde verweigerten
Behtung der Wege und Stoppelfelder mit ihrem Rindvieh (1813)

2) Israelitische Religionsgemeinde zu Gedern ./. Loeb Stern zu Gedern und
umgekehrt: Mitgliedschaft und Besitzstoerung; Benutzung eines
Synagogenstandes (1856)

3) Firma Gebrueder Stern zu Meerholz und Viehhaendler Gustav Hamberger zu
Alzenau gegen den Metzger Johannes Simon, Johannes' Sohn zu Neuses wegen
Anfechtung einer Forderung (1913)

Salomon ISENBURGER (#1) and Loeb STERN (#2) were two of my paternal
gg-grandfathers. My grandfather and his brother were the "Gebrueder Stern"
in #3. Based on my limited German, I gather that GG-Grandpa Salomon had an
issue with the town regarding where his cattle could go; that
GG_Grandpa Loeb's document involved synagogue business; and that Butcher
Simon and his son were contesting a payment to Brothers Stern and
Cattledealer Hamburger (!). More refined translations would be most
welcome - privately, please.

Thanks so much to Marion for alerting us to this site. Renee

Renee Stern Steinig Dix Hills, New York, USA RSteinig@suffolk.lib.ny.us