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Re: Dilemma - names I'm searching keep changing! #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 2/17/2003 2:54:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,
mdtaffet@mailbox.syr.edu writes:

<< Nobody in my husband's family remembers what the g-grandmother's maiden
name was, so that is not a source of confusion. Instead, the source of
confusion lies in the maiden name as found in various written records.

I have NYC birth certificates for 4 of the children born to this
particular couple. The father's name is listed consistently on all
records as TAFFIT.
The mother's maiden surname is listed inconsistently on these 4 records.
I shows LANGER, two show LONDON and one shows LANDAU. These are the
earliest records I have -- all between 1890 and 1900.

Then in 1919, on the marriage license for one of her sons, her maiden
name is listed as SILVER.

In 1936, the SS-5 (application for social security number) filed by one
of her daughters shows her maiden name as LANDOW. Sometime later (don't
have the year with me), the SS-5 filed by another son listed her maiden
name as GOLD.

The preponderance of the evidence points to LONDON or LANDAU/LANDOW as
the most likely maiden surname, but I have trouble figuring out how SILVER
and GOLD fit into the picture. So, if you get good advice on your
situation that would be helpful for me too, I'd love to hear it. >>

==I decided not to get involved with the first of these puzzles, but
you've asked for advice, so I will throw in my guess.

==I'd agree, her maiden name was probably LANDAU (LANDOW as an
Americanized spelling, LANGER as a mis-memory) or it may have been LONON
(and may have originated as LAMDAN to add to the confusion). Whatever it
was, it does not seem to have been very important to her, in her specific
culture, surnames may have been largely irrelevant, She was the daughter
of Tevye, der Milchiger (the dairyman), to everyone. At some point, in
America, she realized she needed a maiden name and searched her memory.
Something beginning with LAN, she's sure, perhaps she'd discussed this
with a sister or a cousin, and they all think yes, something like that.

==Along comes her son, he's getting married. He didn't expect to be asked
a stupid question about his mother's maiden name, and she'd never
mentioned it to him. So, in the offices of the marriage registrar, he
boldly writes what he thinks is a plausible and nicely American-sounding
name, SILVER (perhaps the celebration of his parents' 25th wedding was
fresh in his mind).
Twentyfive years later, another son, at the SocSec office, has to ponder
the question. Calls his brother to ask. "I'm not sure. I had that
question once, too, and I filled it out with some precious metal, no, not
platinum, might have been gold or silver, I know I was thinking of their
wedding anniversary . . . .

==There all kinds of alternate possibilities: her father changed the
specific form of the name occasionally; for a while she used the name of
her stepfather or her sister-in-law or her uncle (e.g. for comig to the
USA).

==That's what makes genealogy so interesting; imagine if we just had to
look up an ancestor's on-line listing and found everything annotated,
cross-referenced and documented for ten generations back; you'd have to
go back 12, 12, or 13 gens to find something challenging.

Michael Bernet,
New York


Your Milwaukee, Chicago, Ohio and Kentucky relatives? #general

delete_this_to_reply_stacy_harris@...
 

Photocopied pages of Milwaukee obits I am using in my own research
also contain the following I thought might be of interest to other
researchers:

Frederic CRAMER
Louis ORFIELD
Harry SCHOSTAK
Rachel TOPPER

These are >from the Wisconsin Jewish Chronicle dated February 24,1934

These aren't obits but announcements on the same page regarding the
following people: Miss Flora Charlotte BELL, daughter of Mr. and Mrs.
Jacob BELL, Mr. and Mrs. Milton ETTENHEIM, Mrs. Julia ABELES, Miss Ida
Babby, Mrs. Herbert KOHLER, Mrs. and Mrs. Harry PETASHNICK and daughter,
Lenore, Mr. and Mrs. Joseph FROEHLICH (of Louisville, KY), Mrs. F.
FERNBACH (of Chicago), Mr. and Mrs. Juliuss WEINBERG (of Columbus, Ohio)


And

from the August 7, 1970 issue of the same publication, obits for:
Dr. Edward J. ADLER
Chaim BRISMAN
Thomas GARBER
Rebecca ORFIELD
Beverly E. PESETSKY
Bernard STOLPER

and on the same page, a group photo of Melvin S. ZARET with unnamed
others (or names captioned are cut off), a photo of Mrs.Rose COHEN, who
was apparently active in her chapter of Wmoen's American ORT and notice a
monument dedication in memory of Ethel HOLZMAN (also cut off).

I'd be happy to elaborate on any or all of these entries.

Stacy Harris
Nashville


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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Dilemma - names I'm searching keep changing! #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 2/17/2003 2:54:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,
mdtaffet@mailbox.syr.edu writes:

<< Nobody in my husband's family remembers what the g-grandmother's maiden
name was, so that is not a source of confusion. Instead, the source of
confusion lies in the maiden name as found in various written records.

I have NYC birth certificates for 4 of the children born to this
particular couple. The father's name is listed consistently on all
records as TAFFIT.
The mother's maiden surname is listed inconsistently on these 4 records.
I shows LANGER, two show LONDON and one shows LANDAU. These are the
earliest records I have -- all between 1890 and 1900.

Then in 1919, on the marriage license for one of her sons, her maiden
name is listed as SILVER.

In 1936, the SS-5 (application for social security number) filed by one
of her daughters shows her maiden name as LANDOW. Sometime later (don't
have the year with me), the SS-5 filed by another son listed her maiden
name as GOLD.

The preponderance of the evidence points to LONDON or LANDAU/LANDOW as
the most likely maiden surname, but I have trouble figuring out how SILVER
and GOLD fit into the picture. So, if you get good advice on your
situation that would be helpful for me too, I'd love to hear it. >>

==I decided not to get involved with the first of these puzzles, but
you've asked for advice, so I will throw in my guess.

==I'd agree, her maiden name was probably LANDAU (LANDOW as an
Americanized spelling, LANGER as a mis-memory) or it may have been LONON
(and may have originated as LAMDAN to add to the confusion). Whatever it
was, it does not seem to have been very important to her, in her specific
culture, surnames may have been largely irrelevant, She was the daughter
of Tevye, der Milchiger (the dairyman), to everyone. At some point, in
America, she realized she needed a maiden name and searched her memory.
Something beginning with LAN, she's sure, perhaps she'd discussed this
with a sister or a cousin, and they all think yes, something like that.

==Along comes her son, he's getting married. He didn't expect to be asked
a stupid question about his mother's maiden name, and she'd never
mentioned it to him. So, in the offices of the marriage registrar, he
boldly writes what he thinks is a plausible and nicely American-sounding
name, SILVER (perhaps the celebration of his parents' 25th wedding was
fresh in his mind).
Twentyfive years later, another son, at the SocSec office, has to ponder
the question. Calls his brother to ask. "I'm not sure. I had that
question once, too, and I filled it out with some precious metal, no, not
platinum, might have been gold or silver, I know I was thinking of their
wedding anniversary . . . .

==There all kinds of alternate possibilities: her father changed the
specific form of the name occasionally; for a while she used the name of
her stepfather or her sister-in-law or her uncle (e.g. for comig to the
USA).

==That's what makes genealogy so interesting; imagine if we just had to
look up an ancestor's on-line listing and found everything annotated,
cross-referenced and documented for ten generations back; you'd have to
go back 12, 12, or 13 gens to find something challenging.

Michael Bernet,
New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Your Milwaukee, Chicago, Ohio and Kentucky relatives? #general

delete_this_to_reply_stacy_harris@...
 

Photocopied pages of Milwaukee obits I am using in my own research
also contain the following I thought might be of interest to other
researchers:

Frederic CRAMER
Louis ORFIELD
Harry SCHOSTAK
Rachel TOPPER

These are >from the Wisconsin Jewish Chronicle dated February 24,1934

These aren't obits but announcements on the same page regarding the
following people: Miss Flora Charlotte BELL, daughter of Mr. and Mrs.
Jacob BELL, Mr. and Mrs. Milton ETTENHEIM, Mrs. Julia ABELES, Miss Ida
Babby, Mrs. Herbert KOHLER, Mrs. and Mrs. Harry PETASHNICK and daughter,
Lenore, Mr. and Mrs. Joseph FROEHLICH (of Louisville, KY), Mrs. F.
FERNBACH (of Chicago), Mr. and Mrs. Juliuss WEINBERG (of Columbus, Ohio)


And

from the August 7, 1970 issue of the same publication, obits for:
Dr. Edward J. ADLER
Chaim BRISMAN
Thomas GARBER
Rebecca ORFIELD
Beverly E. PESETSKY
Bernard STOLPER

and on the same page, a group photo of Melvin S. ZARET with unnamed
others (or names captioned are cut off), a photo of Mrs.Rose COHEN, who
was apparently active in her chapter of Wmoen's American ORT and notice a
monument dedication in memory of Ethel HOLZMAN (also cut off).

I'd be happy to elaborate on any or all of these entries.

Stacy Harris
Nashville


Please Note: I have modified my *reply to* address in an effort to avoid
automated spam. If you wish to reply to me, or to receive a reply from
me, please use the following address:
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FERMANN/FURMAN SEARCH #ukraine

ms nodrog
 

I am trying to locate family memebrs of the FERMAN/FURMAN family who
later changed their name to FELDMAN. The members I know of are Fivich,
Pessie (Bessie)Schmeya (Sam) and possibly Chaim (Harry). They lived in
Torchin, Volhynia Gubernia before coming to America and may have been
born in Rozich, Poland. After coming to America they lived in Brooklyn
and Baltimore.

Two FURMANN siblings married two BAITCH (Bajcz)siblings. If you have
any information please e-mail me at msnodrog@yahoo.com.

Thanks in advance,
Hope Gordon
msnodrog@yahoo.com


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine FERMANN/FURMAN SEARCH #ukraine

ms nodrog
 

I am trying to locate family memebrs of the FERMAN/FURMAN family who
later changed their name to FELDMAN. The members I know of are Fivich,
Pessie (Bessie)Schmeya (Sam) and possibly Chaim (Harry). They lived in
Torchin, Volhynia Gubernia before coming to America and may have been
born in Rozich, Poland. After coming to America they lived in Brooklyn
and Baltimore.

Two FURMANN siblings married two BAITCH (Bajcz)siblings. If you have
any information please e-mail me at msnodrog@yahoo.com.

Thanks in advance,
Hope Gordon
msnodrog@yahoo.com


Re: researching - translation #ukraine

Hilary Henkin <hilary@...>
 

[Note >from the moderator: Because this Spanish letter was inadvertently approved before being translated into English, I am allowing the posting of its translation by Hilary Henkin.]

Dear group,
I remembered enough Spanish >from high school to understand most of
Lilliana's posting. Here is the translation, in hopes that some of you may
be able to help. (I don't claim 100% accuracy, but I got the important
stuff <g>.)

Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, Georgia
Researching:
Mogilev - BERLIN; BELIISKI; HENKIN - GENKIN; MESCENOKOV; POZ - POZE
Ekaterinoslav - KATZ; LAPIDUS; LAVROTIN - LAVRUTIN; PESACHINSKY;
SHIMERNITSKY; STEINHART
Roumania: DOLLINGER; DONNENFIELD; RINCOVER - HARINCOVER; WISENTHAL
Harbin, China: SREBERK - SCHRIEBER; LITEBSK; SCHON --

ESTIMADOS BUSCADORES:
Esteemed researchers,

VUELVO A COMPARTIR LOS DATOS DE MI FAMILIA CON UDS.CON EL AFAN DE CONSEGUIR
ALGUN DATO DE LOS MISMOS,SABIENDO QUE CONSTANTEMENTE HAY GENTE NUEVA ENTRE
NOSOTROS Y TAL VEZ ALGUIEN PUEDA OFRECERME ALGUN DATO.
I return to share the data of my family with you. With the AFAN of
CONSEGUIR(hope of receiving?) some data of the same, knowing that constantly there are people new with us and perhaps some can offer me some information.

MI ABUELO SE LLAMABA SHIJE WOLF ROTHSTEIN Y NACIO EN KROSIENKO
STAR,PRZEMISTANY,PROVINCIA DE GALITZIA,EX POLONIA EL 3 DE ABRIL DE 1907.SUS
PADRES SE LLAMABAN CHANA LEINVAND O LEINWAND Y ABRAHAM ROTHSTEIN Y VIVIAN EN LA CALLE DZIVINOGRODZIE,JUNTO A MI ABUELO Y SU HERMANO OSIAS NACIDO EN
EL A D1O 1908.
My grandfather was called Shije WOLF ROTHSTEIN, and was born in Krosienko
Star, Przemidstany, in Galicia, previously of Poland, on April 3,1907. His parents were Chana LEIVAND or LEIWAND and Abraham
ROTHSTEIN. They lived on Dzivinogrodzie Street, with my grandfather and
his brother Osias, born in 1908.

VIVIAN CERCA DE LVOV.
They lived near Lvov.

MI ABUELO SHIJE EMIGRO EN 1927 A LA ARGENTINA DONDE VIVIO HASTA EL A D1O 1980 EN QUE FALLECIO. SU HERMANO OSIAS EMIGRO ASI MISMO EN EL A D1O 1923 HACIA USA RESIDIENDO EN NEW YORK JUNTO A UN TIO DE APELLIDO LEINVAND O
LEINWAND,DESCONOZCO MAS DATOS DE EL A PARTIR DE ESE MOMENTO.
My uncle Shije emigrated in 1927 to Argentina, where he lived until 1980 in
Que Fallecio. His brother Osias emigrated also, in 1923, to the United
States, living in New York, with an uncle with the surname LEIVANDO or
LEIWAND. This is all the data I know to this moment.

DESEARIA DE SER POSIBLE ME OFRECIERAN DATOS SI ALGUIEN LOS CONOCE.
I desire that it is possible to receive information some of you may know.

EN FORMA PRIVADA A
Please reply privately.

SIN MAS SALUDO AFECTUOSAMENTE
With most affectionate regards,

LILIANA ROTHSTEIN FELMAN
BUENOS AIRES ARGENTINA


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: researching - translation #ukraine

Hilary Henkin <hilary@...>
 

[Note >from the moderator: Because this Spanish letter was inadvertently approved before being translated into English, I am allowing the posting of its translation by Hilary Henkin.]

Dear group,
I remembered enough Spanish >from high school to understand most of
Lilliana's posting. Here is the translation, in hopes that some of you may
be able to help. (I don't claim 100% accuracy, but I got the important
stuff <g>.)

Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, Georgia
Researching:
Mogilev - BERLIN; BELIISKI; HENKIN - GENKIN; MESCENOKOV; POZ - POZE
Ekaterinoslav - KATZ; LAPIDUS; LAVROTIN - LAVRUTIN; PESACHINSKY;
SHIMERNITSKY; STEINHART
Roumania: DOLLINGER; DONNENFIELD; RINCOVER - HARINCOVER; WISENTHAL
Harbin, China: SREBERK - SCHRIEBER; LITEBSK; SCHON --

ESTIMADOS BUSCADORES:
Esteemed researchers,

VUELVO A COMPARTIR LOS DATOS DE MI FAMILIA CON UDS.CON EL AFAN DE CONSEGUIR
ALGUN DATO DE LOS MISMOS,SABIENDO QUE CONSTANTEMENTE HAY GENTE NUEVA ENTRE
NOSOTROS Y TAL VEZ ALGUIEN PUEDA OFRECERME ALGUN DATO.
I return to share the data of my family with you. With the AFAN of
CONSEGUIR(hope of receiving?) some data of the same, knowing that constantly there are people new with us and perhaps some can offer me some information.

MI ABUELO SE LLAMABA SHIJE WOLF ROTHSTEIN Y NACIO EN KROSIENKO
STAR,PRZEMISTANY,PROVINCIA DE GALITZIA,EX POLONIA EL 3 DE ABRIL DE 1907.SUS
PADRES SE LLAMABAN CHANA LEINVAND O LEINWAND Y ABRAHAM ROTHSTEIN Y VIVIAN EN LA CALLE DZIVINOGRODZIE,JUNTO A MI ABUELO Y SU HERMANO OSIAS NACIDO EN
EL A D1O 1908.
My grandfather was called Shije WOLF ROTHSTEIN, and was born in Krosienko
Star, Przemidstany, in Galicia, previously of Poland, on April 3,1907. His parents were Chana LEIVAND or LEIWAND and Abraham
ROTHSTEIN. They lived on Dzivinogrodzie Street, with my grandfather and
his brother Osias, born in 1908.

VIVIAN CERCA DE LVOV.
They lived near Lvov.

MI ABUELO SHIJE EMIGRO EN 1927 A LA ARGENTINA DONDE VIVIO HASTA EL A D1O 1980 EN QUE FALLECIO. SU HERMANO OSIAS EMIGRO ASI MISMO EN EL A D1O 1923 HACIA USA RESIDIENDO EN NEW YORK JUNTO A UN TIO DE APELLIDO LEINVAND O
LEINWAND,DESCONOZCO MAS DATOS DE EL A PARTIR DE ESE MOMENTO.
My uncle Shije emigrated in 1927 to Argentina, where he lived until 1980 in
Que Fallecio. His brother Osias emigrated also, in 1923, to the United
States, living in New York, with an uncle with the surname LEIVANDO or
LEIWAND. This is all the data I know to this moment.

DESEARIA DE SER POSIBLE ME OFRECIERAN DATOS SI ALGUIEN LOS CONOCE.
I desire that it is possible to receive information some of you may know.

EN FORMA PRIVADA A
Please reply privately.

SIN MAS SALUDO AFECTUOSAMENTE
With most affectionate regards,

LILIANA ROTHSTEIN FELMAN
BUENOS AIRES ARGENTINA


Fw: ARDITTI - Meaning Of Sephardic Names #general

Nessim Arditi <narditi@...>
 

Hi

The results of my research on the meaning and story of surname Arditi, can
be found under http://www.netvision.net.il/php/arditi76

Shalom

Nessim Arditi
Santiago-Chile

The Sephardic surname ARDITTI (and its variant, ARDITI) refers to caves=
in Jordan. This information comes >from the data bases located at
Sephardim.com < http://www.sephardim.com >

Harry Stein


Kusiel #ukraine

jaron@...
 

My gf's name was Kusiel and on his headstone is Yekusiel (1868 to 1941). Upon
arrival in 1904 he used the name Carl. He was named after his father who died
shortly before my gf was born. My ggf shared this name with some cousins and I
believe there were others.

Michael L. Jaron
Pittsburgh, PA
jaron@telerama.com

MODERATOR'S NOTE: The responses for the source of this name have been very kind & have covered all the avenues. This thread is now closed.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Fw: ARDITTI - Meaning Of Sephardic Names #general

Nessim Arditi <narditi@...>
 

Hi

The results of my research on the meaning and story of surname Arditi, can
be found under http://www.netvision.net.il/php/arditi76

Shalom

Nessim Arditi
Santiago-Chile

The Sephardic surname ARDITTI (and its variant, ARDITI) refers to caves=
in Jordan. This information comes >from the data bases located at
Sephardim.com < http://www.sephardim.com >

Harry Stein


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Kusiel #ukraine

jaron@...
 

My gf's name was Kusiel and on his headstone is Yekusiel (1868 to 1941). Upon
arrival in 1904 he used the name Carl. He was named after his father who died
shortly before my gf was born. My ggf shared this name with some cousins and I
believe there were others.

Michael L. Jaron
Pittsburgh, PA
jaron@telerama.com

MODERATOR'S NOTE: The responses for the source of this name have been very kind & have covered all the avenues. This thread is now closed.


Re: Discussion Group Archives #general

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 

All of the SIGs' messages ARE archived, and have been available to
>all for the last 4 years.
>
>Go to "The JewishGen SIG Lists message Archives" at
>http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~sigspop
>
>Select "Latvia" where it says "Select SIG", and press
>"Start Search". You can view ALL of the messages that
>were ever posted to the Latvia SIG mailing list there.
>
>Arlene Beare
>Archival Representative for Latvia SIG

Thank you, Arlene!! Martha
--
Martha Levinson Lev-Zion, Ph.D.
President, SIG Latvia


Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: Discussion Group Archives #latvia

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 

All of the SIGs' messages ARE archived, and have been available to
>all for the last 4 years.
>
>Go to "The JewishGen SIG Lists message Archives" at
>http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~sigspop
>
>Select "Latvia" where it says "Select SIG", and press
>"Start Search". You can view ALL of the messages that
>were ever posted to the Latvia SIG mailing list there.
>
>Arlene Beare
>Archival Representative for Latvia SIG

Thank you, Arlene!! Martha
--
Martha Levinson Lev-Zion, Ph.D.
President, SIG Latvia


Re: Pisha Paysha Hand Game Remembered #galicia

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz <idayosef@...>
 

You are describing a form of cats cradle. I had never heard of Pisha Peysha
except >from my cousin who told me it was a card game.
Ida


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Pisha Paysha Hand Game Remembered #general

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz <idayosef@...>
 

You are describing a form of cats cradle. I had never heard of Pisha Peysha
except >from my cousin who told me it was a card game.
Ida


Brest Litovsk articles #belarus

Eileen Price <eileen.price@...>
 

Dear SIG member,

In the Digest for Monday, February 17, there was a request for information
about Brest Litovsk.

I would suggest the following three articles that appeared in the On-line
Newsletter several years ago.

Brisk D'Lita: An Historical Review... by Avram Chani

A Town With Four Names: Recollections of life in Poland prior to WWII by Dr.
Samuel H. Chani

Brest Litovsk, an article >from the Jewish Encyclopedia.

Of course there are many more articles about this town, but I think this is
a good way to start.

Hope this helps.

Eileen Price
Denver, CO
eileen.price@worldnet.att.net


Belarus SIG #Belarus Brest Litovsk articles #belarus

Eileen Price <eileen.price@...>
 

Dear SIG member,

In the Digest for Monday, February 17, there was a request for information
about Brest Litovsk.

I would suggest the following three articles that appeared in the On-line
Newsletter several years ago.

Brisk D'Lita: An Historical Review... by Avram Chani

A Town With Four Names: Recollections of life in Poland prior to WWII by Dr.
Samuel H. Chani

Brest Litovsk, an article >from the Jewish Encyclopedia.

Of course there are many more articles about this town, but I think this is
a good way to start.

Hope this helps.

Eileen Price
Denver, CO
eileen.price@worldnet.att.net


Re: Appointment of Community Rabbis #rabbinic

MBernet@...
 

On 2003.02.18, Avraham Heschel <bict@safeaccess.com> writes:

Whenever practical a son or son-in-law was chosen to succeed the
previous rabbi. The larger cities would often invite a rabbi >from a
smaller town. The smaller towns would often ask the leading rabbis
of the time to "recommend" a star disciple.
I understand, also, that some rabbis were "appointed" by the civil
authorities and were named in Hebrew "Rav mita`am" --"rabbi in
behalf of."

Can someone tell us more about this practice. Also, how did the
community rabbis differ >from the Av Bet Din (AB"D), literally
"Father [superior] of the House of Law [court for Jewish law]" who
had been regarded as the senior rabbi in Jewish communities as far
back as the early middle ages?

Thanks

Michael Bernet,
New York


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: Appointment of Community Rabbis #rabbinic

MBernet@...
 

On 2003.02.18, Avraham Heschel <bict@safeaccess.com> writes:

Whenever practical a son or son-in-law was chosen to succeed the
previous rabbi. The larger cities would often invite a rabbi >from a
smaller town. The smaller towns would often ask the leading rabbis
of the time to "recommend" a star disciple.
I understand, also, that some rabbis were "appointed" by the civil
authorities and were named in Hebrew "Rav mita`am" --"rabbi in
behalf of."

Can someone tell us more about this practice. Also, how did the
community rabbis differ >from the Av Bet Din (AB"D), literally
"Father [superior] of the House of Law [court for Jewish law]" who
had been regarded as the senior rabbi in Jewish communities as far
back as the early middle ages?

Thanks

Michael Bernet,
New York