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Re: Cygany #poland

Mark Halpern <willie46@...>
 

Steven:

There was a town named Cygany in eastern Galicia, now WESTERN
Ukraine, during the period of Austrian and Polish rule over that
territory. The town, now in Ukraine, is Rudka (not Rudki), also
called Tsygany. It can be located at coordinates 4852 and 2606.
It is about 5 miles WNW of Skala Podolskaya (Skala) and 5 miles
NNE of Borshchev (Borszczow).

The Austrian era records for this town were registered in Skala.
Skala is one of 86 towns in eastern Galicia whose vital records
are being indexed by JRI-Poland as part of the AGAD Archives
indexing project. The records being indexed are:
1872-82, 1886-97 births and 1839-92 deaths. The indexing of the
Skala records will start sometime this Spring.

In addition, AGAD has received 1882-1901 marriages and 1893-1900
deaths for Skala. Additional contributions are needed before
these newer records can be indexed. Please support this
worthwhile project with a contribution. Instruction for making
contributions are shown below. With a contribution of $75 or
more, the donor qualifies to receive the full Excel files of all
the indices. The advantages of acquiring the Excel spreadsheets
are: 1) the ability to sort and analyze entries in ways that
cannot be done when searching the JRI-Poland online database; and
2) the donor will receive the Excel file before the indices are
placed online.

If you have any further questions. please contact me or the Skala
Town Leader, Denise Azbill at Famaz1@hotmail.com

Mark Halpern
AGAD Archive Coordinator

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Butler" <SButler284@worldnet.att.net>
To: "JRI-Poland" <jri-pl@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 4:50 PM
Subject: [jri-pl] Cygany


Looking for the old town of Cygany. I believe it is now in the
Eastern
Ukraine.
Steve


JRI Poland #Poland Re: Cygany #poland

Mark Halpern <willie46@...>
 

Steven:

There was a town named Cygany in eastern Galicia, now WESTERN
Ukraine, during the period of Austrian and Polish rule over that
territory. The town, now in Ukraine, is Rudka (not Rudki), also
called Tsygany. It can be located at coordinates 4852 and 2606.
It is about 5 miles WNW of Skala Podolskaya (Skala) and 5 miles
NNE of Borshchev (Borszczow).

The Austrian era records for this town were registered in Skala.
Skala is one of 86 towns in eastern Galicia whose vital records
are being indexed by JRI-Poland as part of the AGAD Archives
indexing project. The records being indexed are:
1872-82, 1886-97 births and 1839-92 deaths. The indexing of the
Skala records will start sometime this Spring.

In addition, AGAD has received 1882-1901 marriages and 1893-1900
deaths for Skala. Additional contributions are needed before
these newer records can be indexed. Please support this
worthwhile project with a contribution. Instruction for making
contributions are shown below. With a contribution of $75 or
more, the donor qualifies to receive the full Excel files of all
the indices. The advantages of acquiring the Excel spreadsheets
are: 1) the ability to sort and analyze entries in ways that
cannot be done when searching the JRI-Poland online database; and
2) the donor will receive the Excel file before the indices are
placed online.

If you have any further questions. please contact me or the Skala
Town Leader, Denise Azbill at Famaz1@hotmail.com

Mark Halpern
AGAD Archive Coordinator

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Butler" <SButler284@worldnet.att.net>
To: "JRI-Poland" <jri-pl@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 4:50 PM
Subject: [jri-pl] Cygany


Looking for the old town of Cygany. I believe it is now in the
Eastern
Ukraine.
Steve


IAJGS Meeting #general

Tony Hausner
 

I am wondering how much interest there is in a meeting of persons
interested in Skala Podolskaya and/or the Lviv area at the IAJGS Meeting
this July 20-25 in the DC area.

I have been informed that meeting space is available.

Please let me know your interest or whether such meetings are being planned.

Tony Hausner
Silver Spring, MD

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen IAJGS Meeting #general

Tony Hausner
 

I am wondering how much interest there is in a meeting of persons
interested in Skala Podolskaya and/or the Lviv area at the IAJGS Meeting
this July 20-25 in the DC area.

I have been informed that meeting space is available.

Please let me know your interest or whether such meetings are being planned.

Tony Hausner
Silver Spring, MD

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


translating #lodz #poland

Snowbird65@...
 

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I would appreciate it if someone could translate the following for me. They
are in JewishGen ViewMate:

VM2132 >from Russian
VM2133 >from Russian
VM2135 >from Russian
VM2136 >from Polish
VM2137 >from Polish

Please reply directly to me: Arlene Radansky, Snowbird65@aol.com.

Thank you for your help.

RYS, SPIEGELMAN, ZAJDERMAN, SZTATLENDER >from Sulejow and Belchatow, Poland

KALB/KARP >from Lodz, Poland

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ollowing for me.&nbsp; They are in JewishGen ViewMate:<BR>
<BR>
VM2132 >from Russian<BR>
VM2133 >from Russian<BR>
VM2135 >from Russian<BR>
VM2136 >from Polish<BR>
VM2137 >from Polish<BR>
<BR>
Please reply directly to me: Arlene Radansky, Snowbird65@aol.com.<BR>
<BR>
Thank you for your help.<BR>
<BR>
RYS, SPIEGELMAN, ZAJDERMAN, SZTATLENDER >from Sulejow and Belchatow, Poland<B=
R>
<BR>
KALB/KARP >from Lodz, Poland</FONT></HTML>

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Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland translating #lodz #poland

Snowbird65@...
 

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I would appreciate it if someone could translate the following for me. They
are in JewishGen ViewMate:

VM2132 >from Russian
VM2133 >from Russian
VM2135 >from Russian
VM2136 >from Polish
VM2137 >from Polish

Please reply directly to me: Arlene Radansky, Snowbird65@aol.com.

Thank you for your help.

RYS, SPIEGELMAN, ZAJDERMAN, SZTATLENDER >from Sulejow and Belchatow, Poland

KALB/KARP >from Lodz, Poland

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Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=
=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">I would appreciate it if someone could translate the f=
ollowing for me.&nbsp; They are in JewishGen ViewMate:<BR>
<BR>
VM2132 >from Russian<BR>
VM2133 >from Russian<BR>
VM2135 >from Russian<BR>
VM2136 >from Polish<BR>
VM2137 >from Polish<BR>
<BR>
Please reply directly to me: Arlene Radansky, Snowbird65@aol.com.<BR>
<BR>
Thank you for your help.<BR>
<BR>
RYS, SPIEGELMAN, ZAJDERMAN, SZTATLENDER >from Sulejow and Belchatow, Poland<B=
R>
<BR>
KALB/KARP >from Lodz, Poland</FONT></HTML>

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Re: Naturalization information pre- and post-1906 #general

Mark Jacobson
 

--- Barry Edwin Sieger <BarryEdwin@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
Prior to the passage of the Basic Naturalization Act of
June 29, 1906 very little personal information was collected
during the naturalization process. The only information you
receive is the relative's name, date of naturalization,
address, occupation, birth date, former nationality,
port of arrival, and date of arrival, and names and address
and occupation of witnesses to naturalization.
The above is actually a best case scenario. Many
naturalizations before 1906 had much less information.
My g-grandfather's naturalization petition in District
Court in Philadelphia in 1900 only has his name, date
of naturalization, nationality, and age. No
occupation, birthdate, or the important arrival
information which I still cannot find anywhere. It
doesn't even say anything about his declaration.

Also, NARA does *not* have an index of *all* pre 1906
naturalizations in the US. They do for New York, but
not for many other places. Before 1906 any court in
any city or town could naturalize people and many of
these records only exist unindexed on dusty shelves in
old courthouses.

Mark Jacobson
Boca Raton, FL


DOGULOV - Belaya Tserkov/Kiev Ukraine;
COHEN/KANA/KAHAN - Belaya Tserkov, Ukraine;
JACOBSON - Polotsk, Belarus; COBLENTZ - Polotsk, Belarus;
KAMERMAN - Drohobycz, Galicia; KOPPEL - Stebnik/Drohobycz, Galicia;
JACOBI - Stratyn/Rohatyn, Galicia; ROTHLEIN - Stratyn/Rohatyn, Galicia;
TUCHFELD - Brzozow/Stryj/Lvov, Galicia


Ft Lauderdale shooting 1983 #general

IsraelP <zach4v6@...>
 

Is there someone in the Ft Lauderdale Florida area who can help us find
a newspaper clipping or other record of a shooting death in 1983? I am
interested in anything about the victim, whose name I know.

Thank you.

Israel Pickholtz


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Naturalization information pre- and post-1906 #general

Mark Jacobson
 

--- Barry Edwin Sieger <BarryEdwin@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
Prior to the passage of the Basic Naturalization Act of
June 29, 1906 very little personal information was collected
during the naturalization process. The only information you
receive is the relative's name, date of naturalization,
address, occupation, birth date, former nationality,
port of arrival, and date of arrival, and names and address
and occupation of witnesses to naturalization.
The above is actually a best case scenario. Many
naturalizations before 1906 had much less information.
My g-grandfather's naturalization petition in District
Court in Philadelphia in 1900 only has his name, date
of naturalization, nationality, and age. No
occupation, birthdate, or the important arrival
information which I still cannot find anywhere. It
doesn't even say anything about his declaration.

Also, NARA does *not* have an index of *all* pre 1906
naturalizations in the US. They do for New York, but
not for many other places. Before 1906 any court in
any city or town could naturalize people and many of
these records only exist unindexed on dusty shelves in
old courthouses.

Mark Jacobson
Boca Raton, FL


DOGULOV - Belaya Tserkov/Kiev Ukraine;
COHEN/KANA/KAHAN - Belaya Tserkov, Ukraine;
JACOBSON - Polotsk, Belarus; COBLENTZ - Polotsk, Belarus;
KAMERMAN - Drohobycz, Galicia; KOPPEL - Stebnik/Drohobycz, Galicia;
JACOBI - Stratyn/Rohatyn, Galicia; ROTHLEIN - Stratyn/Rohatyn, Galicia;
TUCHFELD - Brzozow/Stryj/Lvov, Galicia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ft Lauderdale shooting 1983 #general

IsraelP <zach4v6@...>
 

Is there someone in the Ft Lauderdale Florida area who can help us find
a newspaper clipping or other record of a shooting death in 1983? I am
interested in anything about the victim, whose name I know.

Thank you.

Israel Pickholtz


Searching: Genners researching LEDER #general

Carol Raspler
 

If any of you are familiar with the below named Genners, listed in the
JGFF but with bouncing addresses, please contact me. Thanks, Carol
Raspler, Delray Beach, FL (Yes, I have already listed them with
LostNFound)

Jill Bashein (#1848), Rockville, MD
Carolyn Kaplan Harris (#2040), Los Angeles, CA
Bea Cohen (#2851), Easton, PA

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: Genners researching LEDER #general

Carol Raspler
 

If any of you are familiar with the below named Genners, listed in the
JGFF but with bouncing addresses, please contact me. Thanks, Carol
Raspler, Delray Beach, FL (Yes, I have already listed them with
LostNFound)

Jill Bashein (#1848), Rockville, MD
Carolyn Kaplan Harris (#2040), Los Angeles, CA
Bea Cohen (#2851), Easton, PA

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


ViewMate: Photo Identification #general

David Sandler <yelena_se@...>
 

Shalom to all
Do you recognize anyone on this photo ?
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2162

Please, response me privetly
Regards,
David Sandler
yelena_se@bezeqint.net


COBE and FRANKS #general

unicorn.one <unicorn.one@...>
 

Hi

I am researching the COBE family in UK and US and the FRANKS family in the
UK.

In the UK the Cobe family was based in Manchester - my great-grandfather
Louis Cobe started a cap making factory there. Before that he came from
Krotoszyn (Krotochin) in Prussia (now in Poland). I am also looking for
anyone who knows about the William, Meyer and Mark Henry Cobe families in
Boston, Massachusetts, US as well.

My great-great-great grandfather was Jacob Franks - an optician in
Manchester in the late 18th century. He had 24 children who may have moved
anywhere in the UK or the US. I would be particularly interested if anyone
can link the UK and US Franks families.

If anyone knows any information on these families please let me know.

Dawn Cobe


Zamot #lithuania

Stanley Judd <stanleyjudd@...>
 

Not long ago, I asked for help in identifying the region of Zamot. I
received a number of helpful replies, particular thanks to Len Yodaiken. I
have put everything together and present it here for your information.

1 Zamot

Zamot was mainly occupied by the Samogitians, a Lithuanian tribe whose
members remained heathens until the early 15th century. Zamot (Samogitia or Zamogitie) included all of Lithuania west of the Nevezha (Nevez'is) river (flowing south >from Vilkomir Province above Panevezys and ending in the Nieman river). In the early days, the land was mostly marshy. It was
divided into Western Samogitia whose Eastern boundary was the Dubisa river
(rising in the mountains around Bobya in Siauliai Province and ending in the Nieman river near Sardnik) and Eastern Samogitia which included the area between the Dubisa and the Nevezha. Zamot extended north to the border of Kurland in Latvia, south to the Nieman river (rising west of Minsk, flowing west, then due north to Kaunas and then west to Koenigsberg) and into the Baltic Sea.

Samogitia is English for the Lithuanian Zhemaitiya (the H replaces the
little half circle over the Z). Jews shortened the name into Yiddish.
Zhemaitiya became Zhamo or Zamot. In Russian it is Zhmud. Zamot was the
last part of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania to be settled by Jews. In the
18th century Jews moved there in large numbers, in part because they had been driven out of the large towns of Grodno, Brest-Litovsk and Vilnius by the local non Jewish populations, especially middle class Germans who were
organized in Guilds closed to the Jews. However, with the backing of the
nobility who wanted to bring down prices, the Jews managed to compete.

Many of the largely Jewish shtetls and towns in Zamot were first settled at
that time The border between Lithuania and Kurland was always a subject of
disputes and disagreements. The Russian Imperial Government repeatedly
changed borders between Kovno province and Kurland province. The border
with the Baltic Sea has also changed repeatedly. The Memel area to the west of the border was part of the German province of East Prussia which became part of the German Empire in 1871. Lithuania became independent following WW I.

In 1923, a strip of land along the Baltic, sometimes known as the
Memel Territory, was added to Lithuania. This strip, including the city of Memel, ran south to the Nemunas River (known in German as the Russ River
and Memel River, and in Russian as the Niemen). Memel was renamed
Klaipeda. Germany seized the strip in 1939 and Klaipeda again became
Memel. The Soviet Union annexed the rest of Lithuania in 1940. Following
World War II, the strip became part of Russia and Memel again became
Klaipeda. The strip became part of Lithuania in 1990 when Lithuania became
independent of Russia.

Stanley H. Judd Los Altos Hills, CA
Searching JUDELOWITZ/YUDELOWITZ, BRILLIANT, JANKOWSKY, ROTCHILD, BAER
Locations northern Lithuania and Latvia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate: Photo Identification #general

David Sandler <yelena_se@...>
 

Shalom to all
Do you recognize anyone on this photo ?
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2162

Please, response me privetly
Regards,
David Sandler
yelena_se@bezeqint.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen COBE and FRANKS #general

unicorn.one <unicorn.one@...>
 

Hi

I am researching the COBE family in UK and US and the FRANKS family in the
UK.

In the UK the Cobe family was based in Manchester - my great-grandfather
Louis Cobe started a cap making factory there. Before that he came from
Krotoszyn (Krotochin) in Prussia (now in Poland). I am also looking for
anyone who knows about the William, Meyer and Mark Henry Cobe families in
Boston, Massachusetts, US as well.

My great-great-great grandfather was Jacob Franks - an optician in
Manchester in the late 18th century. He had 24 children who may have moved
anywhere in the UK or the US. I would be particularly interested if anyone
can link the UK and US Franks families.

If anyone knows any information on these families please let me know.

Dawn Cobe


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Zamot #lithuania

Stanley Judd <stanleyjudd@...>
 

Not long ago, I asked for help in identifying the region of Zamot. I
received a number of helpful replies, particular thanks to Len Yodaiken. I
have put everything together and present it here for your information.

1 Zamot

Zamot was mainly occupied by the Samogitians, a Lithuanian tribe whose
members remained heathens until the early 15th century. Zamot (Samogitia or Zamogitie) included all of Lithuania west of the Nevezha (Nevez'is) river (flowing south >from Vilkomir Province above Panevezys and ending in the Nieman river). In the early days, the land was mostly marshy. It was
divided into Western Samogitia whose Eastern boundary was the Dubisa river
(rising in the mountains around Bobya in Siauliai Province and ending in the Nieman river near Sardnik) and Eastern Samogitia which included the area between the Dubisa and the Nevezha. Zamot extended north to the border of Kurland in Latvia, south to the Nieman river (rising west of Minsk, flowing west, then due north to Kaunas and then west to Koenigsberg) and into the Baltic Sea.

Samogitia is English for the Lithuanian Zhemaitiya (the H replaces the
little half circle over the Z). Jews shortened the name into Yiddish.
Zhemaitiya became Zhamo or Zamot. In Russian it is Zhmud. Zamot was the
last part of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania to be settled by Jews. In the
18th century Jews moved there in large numbers, in part because they had been driven out of the large towns of Grodno, Brest-Litovsk and Vilnius by the local non Jewish populations, especially middle class Germans who were
organized in Guilds closed to the Jews. However, with the backing of the
nobility who wanted to bring down prices, the Jews managed to compete.

Many of the largely Jewish shtetls and towns in Zamot were first settled at
that time The border between Lithuania and Kurland was always a subject of
disputes and disagreements. The Russian Imperial Government repeatedly
changed borders between Kovno province and Kurland province. The border
with the Baltic Sea has also changed repeatedly. The Memel area to the west of the border was part of the German province of East Prussia which became part of the German Empire in 1871. Lithuania became independent following WW I.

In 1923, a strip of land along the Baltic, sometimes known as the
Memel Territory, was added to Lithuania. This strip, including the city of Memel, ran south to the Nemunas River (known in German as the Russ River
and Memel River, and in Russian as the Niemen). Memel was renamed
Klaipeda. Germany seized the strip in 1939 and Klaipeda again became
Memel. The Soviet Union annexed the rest of Lithuania in 1940. Following
World War II, the strip became part of Russia and Memel again became
Klaipeda. The strip became part of Lithuania in 1990 when Lithuania became
independent of Russia.

Stanley H. Judd Los Altos Hills, CA
Searching JUDELOWITZ/YUDELOWITZ, BRILLIANT, JANKOWSKY, ROTCHILD, BAER
Locations northern Lithuania and Latvia


Name "IRAM"? #general

LR <lreich@...>
 

Subject: Name "IRAM"?
From: Leslie Reich
Sent: 20 Feb 2003

Leslie Weinberg enquired recently:-

"Can anyone tell me what country the name IRAM might have
originated? Great-grandmother seems to have been named "Schewa Iram" -
doesn't sound very Polish to me, or Jewish, for that matter..........."

I wonder if he is sure that this is a family name. Could it be the Jewish
place name "Sheva Arim", which, I think, was the popular translation of
Sibenburgen, the German name for the the Hungarian province of Erdely, or
Romanian Transilvania (Dracula territory!) ?

Leslie Reich Manchester UK


Re: "City Hall" (USC), Poland - Quite a Difference in Pricing #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

I sent a note of 'apology' to USC Sosnowiec for my 'misunderstanding'. I
would not have requested the documents at 35USD each had I known they
were that costly. They were helpful and provided me with
birthdates/document references of three of my great grandmother's
children which I did not have previously. I thought also that perhaps
the documents had been 'certified' which accounted such a price.

Apparently I am not the only one surprised at the cost as they responded:

"Your certificates in Poland cost (5x15 PLN )+5 PLN = 80 PLN ( 20,50
USD for all )."
In response to the message above:

In Poland, at about 10 different USCs (town family-registry office),
I have paid >from 2 cents up to a maximum of 1.50 dollars for documents.
(This is not a rule or a suggestion. It is just my personal experience,
which may or may not be of relevant to the personal experience of other
people.)

Dan

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@wittenberg.edu>
Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland: TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK, BRODA,
SZEWCZYK, LEWKOWICZ, SZPALTYN, OFMAN, ZYLBERBERG, KRZEPICKI, LUKS,
MOSZKOWICZ, STROZ, SZWIMER, GUTMAN, PESACH
Poland: Czestochowa-Przyrow-Mstow-Janow-Plawno-Radomsko-Piotrkow-Zgierz-Lodz
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/talman/
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/englander/