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WEISSBLUM Lizjensker Chasidic Dynasty [was: The Tauber Review - Feb-21-03] #rabbinic

Yaron Rotman <yarotman@...>
 

On 2003.02.21, Larry Tauber <Ltauber@ctswlaw.com> wrote:

This week's Machberes column [...] There is a
discussion of the Lizjensker Chasidic Dynasty, beginning with
R. Elimelech WEISSBLUM (1717-1787) [...]
I am interested in Rabbi Elimelech's son, Yakow (Jacob) WEISSBLUM,
ABD Mogielnica, Poland. I wasn't able to find any data on his
descendants. Family tradition states that he escaped to Mogielnica
and also changed his name to ROJTMAN. There is a reference to Yakow
ROJTMAN in the Mogielnica civil records (mentioned in the death
record of his son Szlama ROJTMAN in 1847) but no proof of the
connection. Can someone corroborate this information?

Yaron Rotman
mailto:yarotman@bezeqint.net

Researching:
ROJTMAN, ROZEN - Chelm, Mogielnica; CHELMENER, ZILBERTSAN - Poland;
RUSZINEK, BANKIER, HERBET, BERLINSKI - Pilica; SZYDLOWSKI, GROSNACHT
- Stopnica; GLATMAN - Goraj; GRUNER - Essen, Germany, Rzeszow,
Poland; SPERBER - Sokal/Chechanov, Poland; PRUSKI - Novvy Dvor,
Lithuania - Belarus; FRENKIEL - Lithuania Belarus; KRONGRAD -
Brzeziny, Poland; ROSENBERG - Lodz, Poland; ELSTER - Chelm, Poland &
Kovel, Ukraine; also: Rebbe David of Lelow, Rebbe Elimeleh of
Lejazsk, Rabbi David Halevy (TaZ), Rebbe Yakow Isaac of Przysucha,
Rebbe Yakow Kopel of Lukow, Rebbes Israel & Shimon of Jaroslaw
SCHOR - HABERKASTEN Families #rabbinic

Tomer Brunner <tomerbr@...>
 

Dear friends,

Among the families I research is the SCHOR family. My
g-g-grandfather, Rabbi Moshe Katz MARTON (born 1842, in Fekete-Ardo,
Hungary (now Chernotisov, Ukraine. d. 1926 Szombathely, Hungary) was
son of Feige SCHOR, a descendant of Rabbi Alexander Sender SCHOR
(died 1736, Zolkiew, Ukr) author of the book Tevuot Schor.

While searching for sources on this family, I came accross a list of
rabbis >from Brisk (today Brest, Belarus) (1470-1939). A photo of
this list can be found in at least 2 Hebrew books (1 of them is
'Encyclopedia shel galuiot'/Polin/Vol. 2 page 36). Its heading says
it was writen in 1883, but later rabbis are also mentioned (probably
added later).

Rabbi Klonimus SCHOR is mentioned as Av-Beit-Din in 1573. However
I couldn't find any source about this rabbi in other books such
as 'Toldot Mishpachat SCHOR' (Origins of the SCHOR Family) by
Friedberg, 1901.

The index of the encyclopedia (mentioned above) says that a Klonimus
SCHOR is mentioed on page 36, where the list is, and on page 28.
Page 28 gives information about a Rabbi Klonimus (the name SCHOR is
not mentioned!), which was the father in law of the MaHaRSHaL, Rabbi
Shlomo LURIA.

Different sources give the name of the MaHarSHaL's father in law as
Rabbi Klonimus Kalman HABERKASTEN, Rosh-Yeshiva in Ostraha and later
Rosh-Yeshiva in Brisk.

Was this Rabbi HABERKASTEN related to the SCHOR family?

I don't know how accurate this list of Brisk rabbis is but I can say
that it doesn't mention the MaHarSHaL, who, as far as I know, was
the rabbi there for a short time. Also, the list gives the name of
Rabbi Mordechai REIS as Rosh-Yeshiva in the same year (1573) when
Rabbi 'Klonimus SCHOR' is listed as AV-Beit-Din.

So any details about SCHOR-HABERKASTEN connections (if any) and the
origin of the list of rabbis will be greatly appreciated!

Also SCHOR details are most welcome.

Thanks very much for any help!

Tomer Brunner
Natanya/Beer-Sheva, Israel
Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic WEISSBLUM Lizjensker Chasidic Dynasty [was: The Tauber Review - Feb-21-03] #rabbinic

Yaron Rotman <yarotman@...>
 

On 2003.02.21, Larry Tauber <Ltauber@ctswlaw.com> wrote:

This week's Machberes column [...] There is a
discussion of the Lizjensker Chasidic Dynasty, beginning with
R. Elimelech WEISSBLUM (1717-1787) [...]
I am interested in Rabbi Elimelech's son, Yakow (Jacob) WEISSBLUM,
ABD Mogielnica, Poland. I wasn't able to find any data on his
descendants. Family tradition states that he escaped to Mogielnica
and also changed his name to ROJTMAN. There is a reference to Yakow
ROJTMAN in the Mogielnica civil records (mentioned in the death
record of his son Szlama ROJTMAN in 1847) but no proof of the
connection. Can someone corroborate this information?

Yaron Rotman
mailto:yarotman@bezeqint.net

Researching:
ROJTMAN, ROZEN - Chelm, Mogielnica; CHELMENER, ZILBERTSAN - Poland;
RUSZINEK, BANKIER, HERBET, BERLINSKI - Pilica; SZYDLOWSKI, GROSNACHT
- Stopnica; GLATMAN - Goraj; GRUNER - Essen, Germany, Rzeszow,
Poland; SPERBER - Sokal/Chechanov, Poland; PRUSKI - Novvy Dvor,
Lithuania - Belarus; FRENKIEL - Lithuania Belarus; KRONGRAD -
Brzeziny, Poland; ROSENBERG - Lodz, Poland; ELSTER - Chelm, Poland &
Kovel, Ukraine; also: Rebbe David of Lelow, Rebbe Elimeleh of
Lejazsk, Rabbi David Halevy (TaZ), Rebbe Yakow Isaac of Przysucha,
Rebbe Yakow Kopel of Lukow, Rebbes Israel & Shimon of Jaroslaw
Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic SCHOR - HABERKASTEN Families #rabbinic

Tomer Brunner <tomerbr@...>
 

Dear friends,

Among the families I research is the SCHOR family. My
g-g-grandfather, Rabbi Moshe Katz MARTON (born 1842, in Fekete-Ardo,
Hungary (now Chernotisov, Ukraine. d. 1926 Szombathely, Hungary) was
son of Feige SCHOR, a descendant of Rabbi Alexander Sender SCHOR
(died 1736, Zolkiew, Ukr) author of the book Tevuot Schor.

While searching for sources on this family, I came accross a list of
rabbis >from Brisk (today Brest, Belarus) (1470-1939). A photo of
this list can be found in at least 2 Hebrew books (1 of them is
'Encyclopedia shel galuiot'/Polin/Vol. 2 page 36). Its heading says
it was writen in 1883, but later rabbis are also mentioned (probably
added later).

Rabbi Klonimus SCHOR is mentioned as Av-Beit-Din in 1573. However
I couldn't find any source about this rabbi in other books such
as 'Toldot Mishpachat SCHOR' (Origins of the SCHOR Family) by
Friedberg, 1901.

The index of the encyclopedia (mentioned above) says that a Klonimus
SCHOR is mentioed on page 36, where the list is, and on page 28.
Page 28 gives information about a Rabbi Klonimus (the name SCHOR is
not mentioned!), which was the father in law of the MaHaRSHaL, Rabbi
Shlomo LURIA.

Different sources give the name of the MaHarSHaL's father in law as
Rabbi Klonimus Kalman HABERKASTEN, Rosh-Yeshiva in Ostraha and later
Rosh-Yeshiva in Brisk.

Was this Rabbi HABERKASTEN related to the SCHOR family?

I don't know how accurate this list of Brisk rabbis is but I can say
that it doesn't mention the MaHarSHaL, who, as far as I know, was
the rabbi there for a short time. Also, the list gives the name of
Rabbi Mordechai REIS as Rosh-Yeshiva in the same year (1573) when
Rabbi 'Klonimus SCHOR' is listed as AV-Beit-Din.

So any details about SCHOR-HABERKASTEN connections (if any) and the
origin of the list of rabbis will be greatly appreciated!

Also SCHOR details are most welcome.

Thanks very much for any help!

Tomer Brunner
Natanya/Beer-Sheva, Israel
Liverpool Jewish families #unitedkingdom

Jill Whitehead
 

The Jewish community in Liverpool has received a lottery grant (via the =
local library) to put together family trees of Liverpool Jewish =
families. I will contribute mine soon. If anyone has any they would =
like to contribute they can send them to Maurice Hesselberg at Rosary =
Cottage, Green Lane, Liverpool L18 2EP. BY the same token I would be =
interested in the whereabouts of my Liverpool Jewish family in the USA - =
some of my Servians went to Detroit and Chicago in the late 19th and =
early 20th centuries. Please contact me if you can help or supply me =
with a local JGS name in those areas.

Jill Whitehead
SERVIAN/SERWIANSKI of Augustow area of Poland/Liverpool
BROWN/BRIN of Vishtinetz/Vistytis, Lithuania/Edinburgh
GUTTENBERG/GRAHAM of Rajgrod, Poland/Sheffield
ABRAHAMS/ABRAMS of Suwalki, Poland (?)/Manchester
JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Liverpool Jewish families #unitedkingdom

Jill Whitehead
 

The Jewish community in Liverpool has received a lottery grant (via the =
local library) to put together family trees of Liverpool Jewish =
families. I will contribute mine soon. If anyone has any they would =
like to contribute they can send them to Maurice Hesselberg at Rosary =
Cottage, Green Lane, Liverpool L18 2EP. BY the same token I would be =
interested in the whereabouts of my Liverpool Jewish family in the USA - =
some of my Servians went to Detroit and Chicago in the late 19th and =
early 20th centuries. Please contact me if you can help or supply me =
with a local JGS name in those areas.

Jill Whitehead
SERVIAN/SERWIANSKI of Augustow area of Poland/Liverpool
BROWN/BRIN of Vishtinetz/Vistytis, Lithuania/Edinburgh
GUTTENBERG/GRAHAM of Rajgrod, Poland/Sheffield
ABRAHAMS/ABRAMS of Suwalki, Poland (?)/Manchester
BEIRNSTEIN to BURNETT #unitedkingdom

Miriam Margolyes <75342.3217@...>
 

While searching the fantastically useful
website, http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveSearch.asp?WebType=3D2

for the archives of the London Gazette
I found a Name Change notice:
=

Gazette Issue 31391 published on the 6 June 1919. =

Page 67 of 88

Percy Vivian BIERNSTEIN (yes, correct spelling)
changing his name to:

Pervy Vivian Burnett (British Subject)
18 Radcliffe Gardens =

Kensington, London SW

March 28 1919

Thought it might be of use to someone.

Best-Miriam MARGOLYES

Sydney, Australia,

searching: SANDEMAN (& variants) MICHAELS
OSTROWSKY, MORRIS, FRANKLIN, TURIANSKY
JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom BEIRNSTEIN to BURNETT #unitedkingdom

Miriam Margolyes <75342.3217@...>
 

While searching the fantastically useful
website, http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveSearch.asp?WebType=3D2

for the archives of the London Gazette
I found a Name Change notice:
=

Gazette Issue 31391 published on the 6 June 1919. =

Page 67 of 88

Percy Vivian BIERNSTEIN (yes, correct spelling)
changing his name to:

Pervy Vivian Burnett (British Subject)
18 Radcliffe Gardens =

Kensington, London SW

March 28 1919

Thought it might be of use to someone.

Best-Miriam MARGOLYES

Sydney, Australia,

searching: SANDEMAN (& variants) MICHAELS
OSTROWSKY, MORRIS, FRANKLIN, TURIANSKY
Help- NYC/Brooklyn adoptions, 1928-1930 #general

Jerry Krassner
 

My great uncle in Brooklyn, NY had 2 adopted daughters, born 1920 and 1928
(according to the 1930 census). It is possible one or both is still
living. Is there some way of accessing NYC adoption records for the
younger daughter (which would cover 1928-1930)? I don't have any
additional information other than what is on the 1930 census (ie their
first names, and the fact that their father(s?) were Russian born but my
great uncle was born in NYC). Thanks for any advice-- Jerry Krassner
N Potomac, MD
Re: Viennese Meldezettel (Registration Records) #general

Bud484BG@...
 

First, I want to thank all of you wonderful people for your prompt and
generous response and help with regard to the question of the number of
surname records on each of the FHC library catalog microfilm reels.

Once again, this Group came through with flying colors.

The response I'm going with is an estimated 500 cards on each reel,
allowing 15 minutes to go through each reel. I hope to give a report to
the Group on this search once I get the reels.

Again, my thanks to all of you.

Beatrice Markel
Redondo Beach, California
SZACHER / SCHACHER-Poland #general

Lilli Sprintz <spri0037@...>
 

It has come to my attention recently that my mother's mother's mother's
family, >from Ciechanow, Poland, were originally named SZACHER (SCHACHER
in English). When they came to the United States, one of the brothers,
probably during the naturalization process, renamed the family SOLOMON.

Is there anyone who has come across family in Ciechanow named SZACHER /
SCHACHER?

Thanks.

Lilli Sprintz

spri0037@tc.umn.edu
JGFF Researcher #37068 - Ronn LIPKIN #general

R.L. Zunk <nockbockle@...>
 

Ronn LIPKIN, if you are still with JewishGen and if you are still looking
for information on the BEARINT family, please contact me privately at
nockbockle@mindspring.com Messages posted to the email address you have
on the JGFF have bounced back as "undeliverable."

Thank you,

Ricki Zunk
South Florida

nockbockle@mindspring.com

MODERATOR NOTE: You may also contact the LostNFound Desk
for help locating missing JGFFers. Their e-mail is
<LostnFound@jewishgen.org>.
Help! Lost immigrant! #general

rosinskyb
 

Hi
My grandfather, Pesach/Philip POZHEZHINSKI was born in Brest-Litovsk in
1897 to his parents Aaron (Leib)/Arky and Sara Hinde/ Annie RABINOWITZ.
In 1893 Aaron traveled on his own to join his Uncle Oscar/Usher ROZENBERG
in the US. He is recorded as leaving Hamburg and arriving in Ellis Island.
He returned to Brest-Litovsk and married Sara Hinde having two children-
my grandfather and his sister Chana Zelda/Anna. They then returned to
America, sometime between 1899-1902.
My great-aunt Gussie was born in 1902-03 in NY. On arrival (or soon after)
the name was changed to ROZINSKI/ROZINSKY/ROSINSKI.
I cannot find the arrival of these individuals in EIDB. I've checked all
the combinations I can think of for family names. I've even tried general
searches, "Starting with P" and "Starting with R" etc.
What could I possibly do next?????
Bernard Rosinsky
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help- NYC/Brooklyn adoptions, 1928-1930 #general

Jerry Krassner
 

My great uncle in Brooklyn, NY had 2 adopted daughters, born 1920 and 1928
(according to the 1930 census). It is possible one or both is still
living. Is there some way of accessing NYC adoption records for the
younger daughter (which would cover 1928-1930)? I don't have any
additional information other than what is on the 1930 census (ie their
first names, and the fact that their father(s?) were Russian born but my
great uncle was born in NYC). Thanks for any advice-- Jerry Krassner
N Potomac, MD
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re:Viennese Meldezettel (Registration Records) #general

Bud484BG@...
 

First, I want to thank all of you wonderful people for your prompt and
generous response and help with regard to the question of the number of
surname records on each of the FHC library catalog microfilm reels.

Once again, this Group came through with flying colors.

The response I'm going with is an estimated 500 cards on each reel,
allowing 15 minutes to go through each reel. I hope to give a report to
the Group on this search once I get the reels.

Again, my thanks to all of you.

Beatrice Markel
Redondo Beach, California
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen SZACHER / SCHACHER-Poland #general

Lilli Sprintz <spri0037@...>
 

It has come to my attention recently that my mother's mother's mother's
family, >from Ciechanow, Poland, were originally named SZACHER (SCHACHER
in English). When they came to the United States, one of the brothers,
probably during the naturalization process, renamed the family SOLOMON.

Is there anyone who has come across family in Ciechanow named SZACHER /
SCHACHER?

Thanks.

Lilli Sprintz

spri0037@tc.umn.edu
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGFF Researcher #37068 - Ronn LIPKIN #general

R.L. Zunk <nockbockle@...>
 

Ronn LIPKIN, if you are still with JewishGen and if you are still looking
for information on the BEARINT family, please contact me privately at
nockbockle@mindspring.com Messages posted to the email address you have
on the JGFF have bounced back as "undeliverable."

Thank you,

Ricki Zunk
South Florida

nockbockle@mindspring.com

MODERATOR NOTE: You may also contact the LostNFound Desk
for help locating missing JGFFers. Their e-mail is
<LostnFound@jewishgen.org>.
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help! Lost immigrant! #general

rosinskyb
 

Hi
My grandfather, Pesach/Philip POZHEZHINSKI was born in Brest-Litovsk in
1897 to his parents Aaron (Leib)/Arky and Sara Hinde/ Annie RABINOWITZ.
In 1893 Aaron traveled on his own to join his Uncle Oscar/Usher ROZENBERG
in the US. He is recorded as leaving Hamburg and arriving in Ellis Island.
He returned to Brest-Litovsk and married Sara Hinde having two children-
my grandfather and his sister Chana Zelda/Anna. They then returned to
America, sometime between 1899-1902.
My great-aunt Gussie was born in 1902-03 in NY. On arrival (or soon after)
the name was changed to ROZINSKI/ROZINSKY/ROSINSKI.
I cannot find the arrival of these individuals in EIDB. I've checked all
the combinations I can think of for family names. I've even tried general
searches, "Starting with P" and "Starting with R" etc.
What could I possibly do next?????
Bernard Rosinsky
Re: Letters in French #france

Annemarie Jutel <jutel@...>
 

I am happy to help French SIG digest readers to write requests in French
if required.

Annemarie Jutel

MODERATOR: please enter your location after your name <City, State/Country>
French SIG #France RE: Letters in French #france

Annemarie Jutel <jutel@...>
 

I am happy to help French SIG digest readers to write requests in French
if required.

Annemarie Jutel

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