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Re: ytandv digest: February 27, 2003 #yiddish

PeterM3369@...
 

Hi. I'm new to the list. My greatgranduncle Joseph Edelstein was a
business partner of Boris Thomashevsky. His wife, Paulina Edelstein , was
in the Yiddish theatre. Their son Isidore married Anna Thomashevky. My
grandmothers brother Michael Edelstein managed RKO theatres throughout
Manhattan.

Peter Myers


Yiddish Theatre and Vadeville #YiddishTheatre Re: ytandv digest: February 27, 2003 #yiddish

PeterM3369@...
 

Hi. I'm new to the list. My greatgranduncle Joseph Edelstein was a
business partner of Boris Thomashevsky. His wife, Paulina Edelstein , was
in the Yiddish theatre. Their son Isidore married Anna Thomashevky. My
grandmothers brother Michael Edelstein managed RKO theatres throughout
Manhattan.

Peter Myers


Re: Snoalk - what town is this and where would I find it? #general

Carlos Glikson
 

Julie Shapero-Rogerson asked about "Snoalk", Poland - a place of birth
obtained >from the 1901 -Census for England and Wales.

If Julie has access to the handwritten "Snoalk" and for lack of additional
information, I would suggest trying to see if it could be a misread
"Suvalk", for present Suwalki in NE Poland, close to the Lithuanian border.

Carlos GLIKSON
Buenos Aires, Argentina
e-Mail cglikson@ciudad.com.ar

Searching for

GLIKSON, GLICKSON, GLUCKSOHN, GLUECKSOHN: Marijampole, Suwalki, Augustow,
Sejny,Sopotkin,Koenigsberg. POKROISKY, POKROJSKI, POKROY: Suwalki, Seirijai.
Lomza. ALPEROVICH, ALPEROWICZ: Kremenchug, Vilnius. HOLLANDERSKY,
HOLLENDERSKI, HOLLANDER: Suwalki, Seirijai, Lomza. TARNOPOLSKY, TARNOPOL:
Kremenchug, Kharkov. FELCHINSKY: Kremenchug, Vilnius, Felschtin?. KARP:
Grodno. SMELIENSKY(?),KRASNAPOLSKY(?), BLUMIGDAL (?), GOLUMBIEWSKY,
GOLOMB(?)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Julie Shapero-Rogerson" <julibill@mweb.co.za>
To: "JewishGen Discussion Group" <jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 4:33 PM
Subject: Snoalk - what town is this and where would I find it & & &
Looking for Descendants & Ancestors of Jacob and Sara LIVINGSTONE

1. Can anyone tell me what Town name I would look under to find "Snoalk"
(I found this as the town in Poland, as their place of
birth, in the 1901 -Census for England and Whales) So that I can try and
find more about my great grandparents and their lost, children.
2. Also a suggestion of Hebrew or Jewish names to research for
LIVINGSTONE, Lily, Percy and Mary.

MODERATOR NOTE:
Original message edited for length


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Snoalk - what town is this and where would I find it? #general

Carlos Glikson
 

Julie Shapero-Rogerson asked about "Snoalk", Poland - a place of birth
obtained >from the 1901 -Census for England and Wales.

If Julie has access to the handwritten "Snoalk" and for lack of additional
information, I would suggest trying to see if it could be a misread
"Suvalk", for present Suwalki in NE Poland, close to the Lithuanian border.

Carlos GLIKSON
Buenos Aires, Argentina
e-Mail cglikson@ciudad.com.ar

Searching for

GLIKSON, GLICKSON, GLUCKSOHN, GLUECKSOHN: Marijampole, Suwalki, Augustow,
Sejny,Sopotkin,Koenigsberg. POKROISKY, POKROJSKI, POKROY: Suwalki, Seirijai.
Lomza. ALPEROVICH, ALPEROWICZ: Kremenchug, Vilnius. HOLLANDERSKY,
HOLLENDERSKI, HOLLANDER: Suwalki, Seirijai, Lomza. TARNOPOLSKY, TARNOPOL:
Kremenchug, Kharkov. FELCHINSKY: Kremenchug, Vilnius, Felschtin?. KARP:
Grodno. SMELIENSKY(?),KRASNAPOLSKY(?), BLUMIGDAL (?), GOLUMBIEWSKY,
GOLOMB(?)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Julie Shapero-Rogerson" <julibill@mweb.co.za>
To: "JewishGen Discussion Group" <jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 4:33 PM
Subject: Snoalk - what town is this and where would I find it & & &
Looking for Descendants & Ancestors of Jacob and Sara LIVINGSTONE

1. Can anyone tell me what Town name I would look under to find "Snoalk"
(I found this as the town in Poland, as their place of
birth, in the 1901 -Census for England and Whales) So that I can try and
find more about my great grandparents and their lost, children.
2. Also a suggestion of Hebrew or Jewish names to research for
LIVINGSTONE, Lily, Percy and Mary.

MODERATOR NOTE:
Original message edited for length


Re: Kibbutz Ein Hashofet #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 3/7/2003 11:01:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,
mrl@bellsouth.net writes:

<< CAn someone in Israel please tell me how I can contact Kibbutz Ein
Hashofet?
I would appreciate the telephone number and address. >>

==Israel is a small place. The post office has no
problem finding a kibbutz by name.

==If you can't find a more detailed address just address
your letter to

Mazkirut (secretary)
Kibbutz Ein Hashofet
Israel

-------------------------------------
Michael Bernet New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Kibbutz Ein Hashofet #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 3/7/2003 11:01:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,
mrl@bellsouth.net writes:

<< CAn someone in Israel please tell me how I can contact Kibbutz Ein
Hashofet?
I would appreciate the telephone number and address. >>

==Israel is a small place. The post office has no
problem finding a kibbutz by name.

==If you can't find a more detailed address just address
your letter to

Mazkirut (secretary)
Kibbutz Ein Hashofet
Israel

-------------------------------------
Michael Bernet New York


JGS of Montreal - Monday, March 24th, 2003 - 7:30 P.M. - Next in our lecture series #general

Merle Kastner <merlek@...>
 

JEWISH GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY OF MONTREAL,
in association with the Jewish Public Library,
presents the latest in our lecture series:

Monday, March 24th , 7:30 pm
Gelber Conference Center, 5151 Cote St. Catherine Rd.

"WRITING YOUR FAMILY HISTORY . . . as easy or as challenging as
you want to make it!"

There are many ways of presenting your family history: it can be as simple
as copying your family tree generated by a program, or as challenging as
writing a book for submission to a publisher . . . or anything in between!
It’s all about evaluating your own talents and knowing the audience you are
addressing. This lecture will be a starting point for those contemplating
what to do with the precious research material about their ancestors.

Lorraine Gosselin is a former information systems director. She returned
to
University upon her retirement and graduated >from Concordia with a BA
Honours in English and Creative Writing and a minor in Quebec history. She
is an amateur genealogist and writes the Internet column for Connections,
the Quebec Family History Society’s journal. The seminars she has given
include use of the Internet for writers, for genealogists, and workshops
at the QFHS on Writing Your Family History.

Question period will follow the lecture.
Please join us for a most interesting topic and speaker.

Next Scholar-in-Residence Workshop:
Sunday, April 6th at the Jewish Public Library
Greenberg Board Room, lower level
10:00 am to Noon

JGS of Montreal HOT-LINE: 484-0969
For details of the next meeting and the monthly Scholar-in-Residence,
call the JGS of Montreal Hot-Line at 484-0969…anytime!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS of Montreal - Monday, March 24th, 2003 - 7:30 P.M. - Next in our lecture series #general

Merle Kastner <merlek@...>
 

JEWISH GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY OF MONTREAL,
in association with the Jewish Public Library,
presents the latest in our lecture series:

Monday, March 24th , 7:30 pm
Gelber Conference Center, 5151 Cote St. Catherine Rd.

"WRITING YOUR FAMILY HISTORY . . . as easy or as challenging as
you want to make it!"

There are many ways of presenting your family history: it can be as simple
as copying your family tree generated by a program, or as challenging as
writing a book for submission to a publisher . . . or anything in between!
It’s all about evaluating your own talents and knowing the audience you are
addressing. This lecture will be a starting point for those contemplating
what to do with the precious research material about their ancestors.

Lorraine Gosselin is a former information systems director. She returned
to
University upon her retirement and graduated >from Concordia with a BA
Honours in English and Creative Writing and a minor in Quebec history. She
is an amateur genealogist and writes the Internet column for Connections,
the Quebec Family History Society’s journal. The seminars she has given
include use of the Internet for writers, for genealogists, and workshops
at the QFHS on Writing Your Family History.

Question period will follow the lecture.
Please join us for a most interesting topic and speaker.

Next Scholar-in-Residence Workshop:
Sunday, April 6th at the Jewish Public Library
Greenberg Board Room, lower level
10:00 am to Noon

JGS of Montreal HOT-LINE: 484-0969
For details of the next meeting and the monthly Scholar-in-Residence,
call the JGS of Montreal Hot-Line at 484-0969…anytime!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Brooklyn Eagle 1841-1902 online #usa

Sandi Goldsmith
 

There's a great new site for New York reseachers who have an interest in early Brooklyn.

The Brooklyn Public Libary has a beta edition of the Brooklyn Eagle online and it is word-searchable.

The BPL presently has the Eagle >from 1841 to 1902 ready for use and they
will be adding later years as the OCR work is done.

Here is the URL:

http://eagle.brooklynpubliclibrary.org

I understand that you must use Internet Explorer for the search functions to work.

Have fun!

Sandi Goldsmith
Alpharetta, GA


Early American SIG #USA Brooklyn Eagle 1841-1902 online #usa

Sandi Goldsmith
 

There's a great new site for New York reseachers who have an interest in early Brooklyn.

The Brooklyn Public Libary has a beta edition of the Brooklyn Eagle online and it is word-searchable.

The BPL presently has the Eagle >from 1841 to 1902 ready for use and they
will be adding later years as the OCR work is done.

Here is the URL:

http://eagle.brooklynpubliclibrary.org

I understand that you must use Internet Explorer for the search functions to work.

Have fun!

Sandi Goldsmith
Alpharetta, GA


SALSUNDERSKA #lithuania

apexsa <apexsa@...>
 

SALSUNDERSKA - Would somebody be able to hint at a possible plausible
Shtetl name in Lithuania for the Shetl Salsunderska - remembered by a
great aunt but which does not sound quite right?

Many thanks

Shana Mink Katz
Email: apexsa@global.co.za


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania SALSUNDERSKA #lithuania

apexsa <apexsa@...>
 

SALSUNDERSKA - Would somebody be able to hint at a possible plausible
Shtetl name in Lithuania for the Shetl Salsunderska - remembered by a
great aunt but which does not sound quite right?

Many thanks

Shana Mink Katz
Email: apexsa@global.co.za


Updates to the Levanda Index #lithuania

Michael Steinore
 

Several new translations of Czarist decrees concerning Jews have been added
to the Levanda Index website. Topics include Courland, Rezhitsa,
conscription, and trade. Perhaps the most notable though, is Levanda #354,
an 1837 decree detailing the administration
of Jewish agricultural colonies in Kherson gubernia, to which many Jews >from the northern gubernias migrated.

The Levanda Index website is at

www.angelfire.com/ms2/belaroots/levanda.htm

Michael Steinore
San Mateo, CA


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Updates to the Levanda Index #lithuania

Michael Steinore
 

Several new translations of Czarist decrees concerning Jews have been added
to the Levanda Index website. Topics include Courland, Rezhitsa,
conscription, and trade. Perhaps the most notable though, is Levanda #354,
an 1837 decree detailing the administration
of Jewish agricultural colonies in Kherson gubernia, to which many Jews >from the northern gubernias migrated.

The Levanda Index website is at

www.angelfire.com/ms2/belaroots/levanda.htm

Michael Steinore
San Mateo, CA


Re: Subject: Day of birth not stated on official record. #galicia

Mark Jacobson
 

It was not at all unusual for someone to not know
their exact date of birth. There was no TV or radio
or even newspapers in most towns to remind people of
the date of an event. There were no western calendars.
People did not celebrate birthdays. They did not
generally have to fill out forms with their date of
birth. Many were illiterate. Events were often
remembered as to how they related to holidays and the
Jewish calendar.

My grandfather, born in Drohobycz in Galicia, only
knew his birthday was in 1898 on one of the days of
Chanukah. He used to celebrate it on December 15th,
a day he randomly picked. Only when I examined his
copy of his birth record did I realize he was born
December 2nd. I told him (he was in his 80's at the
time), and he was very surprised. He thought it might
actually have been the 9th which was the date of his
bris.

My g-grandmother's US naturalization petition in
1927 lists birthdays for all her children. All are
listed wrong. Many even have the wrong year.

My grandmother born in Stryj Galicia always used
different years of birth. Her day of birth she never
knew. She used her mother's date of birth just to
have a birthdate to list, and I do not know if that is
even her mother's correct day.

It seems that birthdays were quite irrelevant to our
Galician ancestors.

Mark Jacobson
Boca Raton, FL


=====
DOGULOV - Belaya Tserkov/Kiev Ukraine;
COHEN/KANA/KAHAN - Belaya Tserkov, Ukraine;
JACOBSON - Polotsk, Belarus; COBLENTZ - Polotsk, Belarus;
KAMERMAN - Drohobycz, Galicia;
KOPPEL - Stebnik/Drohobycz, Galicia;
JACOBI - Stratyn/Rohatyn, Galicia; ROTHLEIN - Stratyn/Rohatyn, Galicia;
TUCHFELD - Brzozow/Stryj/Lvov, Galicia


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Subject: Day of birth not stated on official record. #galicia

Mark Jacobson
 

It was not at all unusual for someone to not know
their exact date of birth. There was no TV or radio
or even newspapers in most towns to remind people of
the date of an event. There were no western calendars.
People did not celebrate birthdays. They did not
generally have to fill out forms with their date of
birth. Many were illiterate. Events were often
remembered as to how they related to holidays and the
Jewish calendar.

My grandfather, born in Drohobycz in Galicia, only
knew his birthday was in 1898 on one of the days of
Chanukah. He used to celebrate it on December 15th,
a day he randomly picked. Only when I examined his
copy of his birth record did I realize he was born
December 2nd. I told him (he was in his 80's at the
time), and he was very surprised. He thought it might
actually have been the 9th which was the date of his
bris.

My g-grandmother's US naturalization petition in
1927 lists birthdays for all her children. All are
listed wrong. Many even have the wrong year.

My grandmother born in Stryj Galicia always used
different years of birth. Her day of birth she never
knew. She used her mother's date of birth just to
have a birthdate to list, and I do not know if that is
even her mother's correct day.

It seems that birthdays were quite irrelevant to our
Galician ancestors.

Mark Jacobson
Boca Raton, FL


=====
DOGULOV - Belaya Tserkov/Kiev Ukraine;
COHEN/KANA/KAHAN - Belaya Tserkov, Ukraine;
JACOBSON - Polotsk, Belarus; COBLENTZ - Polotsk, Belarus;
KAMERMAN - Drohobycz, Galicia;
KOPPEL - Stebnik/Drohobycz, Galicia;
JACOBI - Stratyn/Rohatyn, Galicia; ROTHLEIN - Stratyn/Rohatyn, Galicia;
TUCHFELD - Brzozow/Stryj/Lvov, Galicia


JGSLA March 16 Meeting with Peter Lande on Holocaust Research #galicia

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

JGSLA March 16 meeting with Peter Landé on Holocaust Research:

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Los Angeles (JGSLA) and the Simon
Wiesenthal Center's Museum of Tolerance (MOT) jointly present: "Holocaust
Genealogical Research: Opportunities and Obstacles." The speaker is Peter
W.
Landé, a retired U.S. State Department Foreign Service Officer, who has
traveled widely in Europe collecting lists of Holocaust victims and
survivors
primarily for the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum. Through his efforts,
uncounted names of Holocaust victims have been rescued >from anonymity. In
July 2001 he received the Lifetime Achievement Award >from the International
Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies (IAJGS).

Mr. Landé will discuss the importance of doing Holocaust research and the
opportunities and obstacles to obtaining Holocaust information, including
lack of cooperation with international organizations and various
governments.

Due to the Museum's security requirements, advance reservations a must!
Call
MOT by March 11 (310) 772-2528. This is an automated phone line where you
only leave your name and number of people in your party,

The date and time of the meeting is Sunday, March 16, 2003, 1:00 p.m. Due
to
MOT parking restrictions and security, plan to arrive at least 30 minutes
before the meeting. A photo ID of each person in the party is required for
entrance to museum

The Museum of Tolerance (MOT) is located at 9786 West Pico Blvd., Los
Angeles, CA 90035 . Exit the San Diego Fwy (405) at Pico and drive east to
Roxbury. Park in the garage at 1399 South Roxbury Drive (on the northwest
corner of Roxbury and Pico, diagonally across >from the Museum) . Parking is
limited. If you can carpool, please do!

There is no fee for the meeting. Non-members are welcome.

For more information on the JGSLA including future meetings, please visit
our
website: www.JGSLA.org.

Pamela Weisberger, JGSLA
Santa Monica, CA

pweisberger@hotmail.com


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia JGSLA March 16 Meeting with Peter Lande on Holocaust Research #galicia

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

JGSLA March 16 meeting with Peter Landé on Holocaust Research:

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Los Angeles (JGSLA) and the Simon
Wiesenthal Center's Museum of Tolerance (MOT) jointly present: "Holocaust
Genealogical Research: Opportunities and Obstacles." The speaker is Peter
W.
Landé, a retired U.S. State Department Foreign Service Officer, who has
traveled widely in Europe collecting lists of Holocaust victims and
survivors
primarily for the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum. Through his efforts,
uncounted names of Holocaust victims have been rescued >from anonymity. In
July 2001 he received the Lifetime Achievement Award >from the International
Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies (IAJGS).

Mr. Landé will discuss the importance of doing Holocaust research and the
opportunities and obstacles to obtaining Holocaust information, including
lack of cooperation with international organizations and various
governments.

Due to the Museum's security requirements, advance reservations a must!
Call
MOT by March 11 (310) 772-2528. This is an automated phone line where you
only leave your name and number of people in your party,

The date and time of the meeting is Sunday, March 16, 2003, 1:00 p.m. Due
to
MOT parking restrictions and security, plan to arrive at least 30 minutes
before the meeting. A photo ID of each person in the party is required for
entrance to museum

The Museum of Tolerance (MOT) is located at 9786 West Pico Blvd., Los
Angeles, CA 90035 . Exit the San Diego Fwy (405) at Pico and drive east to
Roxbury. Park in the garage at 1399 South Roxbury Drive (on the northwest
corner of Roxbury and Pico, diagonally across >from the Museum) . Parking is
limited. If you can carpool, please do!

There is no fee for the meeting. Non-members are welcome.

For more information on the JGSLA including future meetings, please visit
our
website: www.JGSLA.org.

Pamela Weisberger, JGSLA
Santa Monica, CA

pweisberger@hotmail.com


SCHECHTER, KRUMHOLZ from Ivanovtse, Kolomyya #galicia

Michael Press <press@...>
 

I am researching the family of my great-great-grandfather Jacob SCHECHTER.
I know that he was living in Iwanowce in 1907 but died by 1912. Until
recently I knew of only two of his children, Dora (Dwora, my
great-grandmother, born 1878) and Rose (born 1887). Dora married Chaim
VOGEL >from Peczenizyn and had four children: Moshe (born 1900), Rose (born
1901), Benny/Ber (born 1906), and Jack/Ya'akov (my grandfather, born
1912). Chaim came to the U.S. in 1913, but the rest of the family did not
join him until 1923 in New York.

Rose came to the U.S. in 1907, and married Abraham KESTENBLATT. They had
one son, Jack, born 1923 in San Francisco, but the family spent most of
their lives on the Lower East Side.

When I finally discovered the passenger manifest with Dora and her
children, I found that their nearest relative in Poland was listed as a
brother, Perel KUMHOLC. I imagine that this is in fact a sister of Dora
and Rose (Dora's son Moshe is listed in the manifest as a woman!), and
that her name was probably KRUMHOLC (KRUMHOLZ). Perel is listed as living
at Legjonow 20 in Kolomyja.

If you are related to this family, or have any information regarding any
of these people, please respond to me privately.


Michael Press,
Somerville, Massachusetts
Respond to: <press@fas.harvard.edu>


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia SCHECHTER, KRUMHOLZ from Ivanovtse, Kolomyya #galicia

Michael Press <press@...>
 

I am researching the family of my great-great-grandfather Jacob SCHECHTER.
I know that he was living in Iwanowce in 1907 but died by 1912. Until
recently I knew of only two of his children, Dora (Dwora, my
great-grandmother, born 1878) and Rose (born 1887). Dora married Chaim
VOGEL >from Peczenizyn and had four children: Moshe (born 1900), Rose (born
1901), Benny/Ber (born 1906), and Jack/Ya'akov (my grandfather, born
1912). Chaim came to the U.S. in 1913, but the rest of the family did not
join him until 1923 in New York.

Rose came to the U.S. in 1907, and married Abraham KESTENBLATT. They had
one son, Jack, born 1923 in San Francisco, but the family spent most of
their lives on the Lower East Side.

When I finally discovered the passenger manifest with Dora and her
children, I found that their nearest relative in Poland was listed as a
brother, Perel KUMHOLC. I imagine that this is in fact a sister of Dora
and Rose (Dora's son Moshe is listed in the manifest as a woman!), and
that her name was probably KRUMHOLC (KRUMHOLZ). Perel is listed as living
at Legjonow 20 in Kolomyja.

If you are related to this family, or have any information regarding any
of these people, please respond to me privately.


Michael Press,
Somerville, Massachusetts
Respond to: <press@fas.harvard.edu>