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Zarasai Lists for Research Groups #lithuania

Maria Krane
 

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Maria Krane
Zarasai Research Coordinator


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Zarasai Lists for Research Groups #lithuania

Maria Krane
 

Four lists were sent to Zarasai Research Group participants.
If you are part of the research group and have not received these lists, please contact me. Thank you.

Maria Krane
Zarasai Research Coordinator


Re: Kortz Russia? #general

Dr.Josef ASH
 

Shalom, Shawn.
You ask:
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 6:41 PM
Subject: Kortz Russia?
My mother's birth certificate lists her father's place of birth as Kortz
Russia. Unfortunatly, I'm not able to find any references to this city.
Any assistance here would be greatly appreciated. Bye the way, he was
born in 1902.
Shawn Harris
Everett, WA
It could be Kerch in Crimea.
But I think, that prefairable is Korets, 66 km East to Rovno, on the road
from Rovno to Zhitomir, Ukraine.
Dr. Josef ASH


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Kortz Russia? #general

Dr.Josef ASH
 

Shalom, Shawn.
You ask:
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 6:41 PM
Subject: Kortz Russia?
My mother's birth certificate lists her father's place of birth as Kortz
Russia. Unfortunatly, I'm not able to find any references to this city.
Any assistance here would be greatly appreciated. Bye the way, he was
born in 1902.
Shawn Harris
Everett, WA
It could be Kerch in Crimea.
But I think, that prefairable is Korets, 66 km East to Rovno, on the road
from Rovno to Zhitomir, Ukraine.
Dr. Josef ASH


Question on travel frm Riga to Seattle in 1916 #general

Leslie Weinberg <lbw@...>
 

I apologize if this is a double post, but I posted yesterday and it has not
appeared on the group. Roadrunner is infamous for this!

I am being told by my husband's family that my late father-in-law left Riga
in 1916, by train, hopping on and off cars as soldiers checked the train,
since he had no papers. He wound up in Japan. We have found a couple of
tickets, one >from Darien (looks like that >from the handwriting) to Kobe,
and then one >from Kobe, Japan, on the "Canada", leaving Japan Dec 27 1916
and arriving Seattle Jan 18, I think - tickets are marked "third
class/steerage". The tickets have his brother's first name on them, not
his. His brother and his father had left some time before for South
Africa, and I do not believe they ever returned to Riga. He had always
claimed that he was joined by a group of young men. also >from Riga, and
also in a "similar situation" in Japan and they had to write to the
President of the U.S. for "permission" to come here. He told the family
that when the ship arrived, there were "people" waiting for them.

I have a number of questions:
1) Where is Darien? How would he have traveled >from Riga to Kobe, Japan?
2) Why would a number of young men have had to petition the U.S. President
for permission to come here?
3) I can not find a ship called the Canada, except for a transport ship.
Also, do the tickets imply steerage?
4) On one of the tickets there is the word "quarantine". was this usual,
and for how long would this have lasted?
5) What facility, like Ellis Island, if any, would have existed in Seattle
at that time, and where would the records be?
6) We found a certificate of citizenship for 1935, but no declaration of
intent, which I would have to send for to get further information on his
arrival here. Since he lived in Brooklyn NY at the time, would those
records be there or in Manhattan?

Thank you in advance, Leslie Weinberg

Searching Reiss, November, Iram, Gran, April, Danskoy, Weinberg, Sominsky,
Mischinsky.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Question on travel frm Riga to Seattle in 1916 #general

Leslie Weinberg <lbw@...>
 

I apologize if this is a double post, but I posted yesterday and it has not
appeared on the group. Roadrunner is infamous for this!

I am being told by my husband's family that my late father-in-law left Riga
in 1916, by train, hopping on and off cars as soldiers checked the train,
since he had no papers. He wound up in Japan. We have found a couple of
tickets, one >from Darien (looks like that >from the handwriting) to Kobe,
and then one >from Kobe, Japan, on the "Canada", leaving Japan Dec 27 1916
and arriving Seattle Jan 18, I think - tickets are marked "third
class/steerage". The tickets have his brother's first name on them, not
his. His brother and his father had left some time before for South
Africa, and I do not believe they ever returned to Riga. He had always
claimed that he was joined by a group of young men. also >from Riga, and
also in a "similar situation" in Japan and they had to write to the
President of the U.S. for "permission" to come here. He told the family
that when the ship arrived, there were "people" waiting for them.

I have a number of questions:
1) Where is Darien? How would he have traveled >from Riga to Kobe, Japan?
2) Why would a number of young men have had to petition the U.S. President
for permission to come here?
3) I can not find a ship called the Canada, except for a transport ship.
Also, do the tickets imply steerage?
4) On one of the tickets there is the word "quarantine". was this usual,
and for how long would this have lasted?
5) What facility, like Ellis Island, if any, would have existed in Seattle
at that time, and where would the records be?
6) We found a certificate of citizenship for 1935, but no declaration of
intent, which I would have to send for to get further information on his
arrival here. Since he lived in Brooklyn NY at the time, would those
records be there or in Manhattan?

Thank you in advance, Leslie Weinberg

Searching Reiss, November, Iram, Gran, April, Danskoy, Weinberg, Sominsky,
Mischinsky.


Numbers of arriivals at Seattle/ #general

Leslie Weinberg <lbw@...>
 

Does anyone have statistics about the numbers of East Europeans who arrived
at Seattle via Japan?

Leslie Weinberg


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Numbers of arriivals at Seattle/ #general

Leslie Weinberg <lbw@...>
 

Does anyone have statistics about the numbers of East Europeans who arrived
at Seattle via Japan?

Leslie Weinberg


Re: "Gaditsch., Russia" #general

Mike Posnick
 

I appreciate Naomi's response to my inquiry about "Gaditch," but I am not
a novice researcher. In addition, I looked at the sources Naomi mentions
in her reply, as well as several others, before posting my question. I
was hoping that someone else previously might have sought the same town
and was successful in identifying it.

Hodiatch or Gadac, more properly known as Gadyach, Ukraine, is the obvious
answer to my question. Sometimes, however, an answer is too obvious to be
believed. That is the case here.

My reason for doubting the obvious answer is that Gadyach simply is
located too far >from where this family's lore says they lived and in the
wrong direction. The parents are known to have been born in what is now
Novyy Sverzhen, Belarus. Other information >from the family indicates that
the children all were born in what is now Pinsk, Belarus. Pinsk is
located 95.6 miles SSW of Novyy Sverzhen. There are no known family
connections to any territory east of Kiev, which itself is located 263.2
miles SE of Novyy Sverzhen. Gadyach is located an additional 153.4 miles
E of Kiev!

I cannot categorically state that Gadyach is not the correct answer, but I
also am not prepared to accept it uncritically. Based upon what little I
do know and my experience as a researcher, I still would expect to find
that "Gaditch" is a place in the former Minsk, Grodno. or Volhynia
provinces, most likely a very small town in the vicinity of Pinsk.

Mike Posnick
Minneapolis, Minnesota
e-mail: mpoz@...

In her JewishGen message of 6/7/2003, Naomi Fatouros wrote:

Despite Mr. Poznick belief that his relative' mystery town might be in the
vicinity of Pinsk or Novyy Sverzhen, I am suggesting that "Gaditch" could
be Hodiatch, also known as Gadac. But some other Jewihsgenner might write
to say that I should have sat on my hands rather than type this response!

Hodiatch is east of Kiev and north of Polatava. Chester G. Cohen's
"Shtetl" Finder Gazetter has an entry for it, and so does "Where We Once
Walked"(WWOW). WWOW offers no information about Hodiatch (or Gadec) and
says only that it could not be found under the given spelling in the
gazetteers of the US Board on Geographic Naomes.

Mr. Posnick should try Jewishgen's ShtetlSeeker to see whether there
are closer matches, and also try to find his relative's ship manifest to
see how the EIDB volunteers spelled it in transcription and to see how
the mystery town was spelled on the manifest itself.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: "Gaditsch., Russia" #general

Mike Posnick
 

I appreciate Naomi's response to my inquiry about "Gaditch," but I am not
a novice researcher. In addition, I looked at the sources Naomi mentions
in her reply, as well as several others, before posting my question. I
was hoping that someone else previously might have sought the same town
and was successful in identifying it.

Hodiatch or Gadac, more properly known as Gadyach, Ukraine, is the obvious
answer to my question. Sometimes, however, an answer is too obvious to be
believed. That is the case here.

My reason for doubting the obvious answer is that Gadyach simply is
located too far >from where this family's lore says they lived and in the
wrong direction. The parents are known to have been born in what is now
Novyy Sverzhen, Belarus. Other information >from the family indicates that
the children all were born in what is now Pinsk, Belarus. Pinsk is
located 95.6 miles SSW of Novyy Sverzhen. There are no known family
connections to any territory east of Kiev, which itself is located 263.2
miles SE of Novyy Sverzhen. Gadyach is located an additional 153.4 miles
E of Kiev!

I cannot categorically state that Gadyach is not the correct answer, but I
also am not prepared to accept it uncritically. Based upon what little I
do know and my experience as a researcher, I still would expect to find
that "Gaditch" is a place in the former Minsk, Grodno. or Volhynia
provinces, most likely a very small town in the vicinity of Pinsk.

Mike Posnick
Minneapolis, Minnesota
e-mail: mpoz@...

In her JewishGen message of 6/7/2003, Naomi Fatouros wrote:

Despite Mr. Poznick belief that his relative' mystery town might be in the
vicinity of Pinsk or Novyy Sverzhen, I am suggesting that "Gaditch" could
be Hodiatch, also known as Gadac. But some other Jewihsgenner might write
to say that I should have sat on my hands rather than type this response!

Hodiatch is east of Kiev and north of Polatava. Chester G. Cohen's
"Shtetl" Finder Gazetter has an entry for it, and so does "Where We Once
Walked"(WWOW). WWOW offers no information about Hodiatch (or Gadec) and
says only that it could not be found under the given spelling in the
gazetteers of the US Board on Geographic Naomes.

Mr. Posnick should try Jewishgen's ShtetlSeeker to see whether there
are closer matches, and also try to find his relative's ship manifest to
see how the EIDB volunteers spelled it in transcription and to see how
the mystery town was spelled on the manifest itself.


Re: Introducing Myself #lithuania

ewilson4@...
 

Dear Wolf::

Thank you,
Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wolf Bergoltz" <wolfbe@...>
To: "Keidan SIG" <keidan@...>
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 11:43 PM
Subject: Re: Introducing Myself


Look in the possibility of Klibanski, I think I saw this last name in
Keidan
documents.
Wolf Bergoltz


-----Original Message-----
From: shelcohe@... <shelcohe@...>
To: Keidan SIG <keidan@...>
Date: Saturday, June 07, 2003 12:07 AM
Subject: Introducing Myself


I am researching grandparent/ggrandparent KLIVANSKY family relatives who
emigrated
from Keidan in the 1890 - 1900 period and settled in Cambria County, PA.
Eli Klivansky 1849 - 1941
Children:
Anna (Chana) Klivansky 1879 - 1944 Married to Myer Charleston
(Americanized)
>from Neistot-Tavrg, Lithuania
and Dora, Louis, Morris, Phil, Sam, Ida, Gertrude Klivansky

Also researching nearby Neistot-Tavrig, Lithuania. Surname unknown -
Americanized to
Charleston (Charlson)

Open to any help >from fellow researchers.

Sheldon Cohen
Marietta, GA

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Keidan Jews #Keidan #Lithuania Re: Introducing Myself #lithuania

ewilson4@...
 

Dear Wolf::

Thank you,
Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wolf Bergoltz" <wolfbe@...>
To: "Keidan SIG" <keidan@...>
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 11:43 PM
Subject: Re: Introducing Myself


Look in the possibility of Klibanski, I think I saw this last name in
Keidan
documents.
Wolf Bergoltz


-----Original Message-----
From: shelcohe@... <shelcohe@...>
To: Keidan SIG <keidan@...>
Date: Saturday, June 07, 2003 12:07 AM
Subject: Introducing Myself


I am researching grandparent/ggrandparent KLIVANSKY family relatives who
emigrated
from Keidan in the 1890 - 1900 period and settled in Cambria County, PA.
Eli Klivansky 1849 - 1941
Children:
Anna (Chana) Klivansky 1879 - 1944 Married to Myer Charleston
(Americanized)
>from Neistot-Tavrg, Lithuania
and Dora, Louis, Morris, Phil, Sam, Ida, Gertrude Klivansky

Also researching nearby Neistot-Tavrig, Lithuania. Surname unknown -
Americanized to
Charleston (Charlson)

Open to any help >from fellow researchers.

Sheldon Cohen
Marietta, GA

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Re: Birth/Death Records in the Ghetto #lodz #poland

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

On 2005.06.05, Joachim Modern <joachim.modern@...> wrote:

Is there a way to obtain death or birth records of people who where
in the Ghetto? I'm interested in finding the birth record of a
person who was born in December 1942 in the Lodz's Ghetto.
Maybe it's difficult because it's not over 100 years?
In response to the above message: I doubt that birth or death
records were kept in 1942. But the Lodz Ghetto Register, which
lists over 250,000 names, might be a good source of information.
In that source, 605 persons are listed who were born in 1942; and 12
were born in December 1942.

Dan

Daniel Kazez
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/fam-ent/
mailto:dkazez@...

Poland: TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK,
BRODA, SZEWCZYK, RAYZMAN, LEWKOWICZ, SZPALTYN, OFMAN, ZYLBERBERG,
KRZEPICKI, LUKS, MOSZKOWICZ, STROZ, SZWIMER, GUTMAN, PESACH,
FEYNER/FEINER/FAYNER, BORZYKOWSKI
Ukraine: OBERMAN-HOBERMAN-GUBERMAN, LISS, SOBLE-SOBEL, STEIN,
AKSMAN-AXMAN
Turkey: KAZEZ-KAZES, ALHADEF-ELHADEF, FRESKO-FRESCO, HABIB, DEVIDAS-DE
VIDAS


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Re: Birth/Death Records in the Ghetto #lodz #poland

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

On 2005.06.05, Joachim Modern <joachim.modern@...> wrote:

Is there a way to obtain death or birth records of people who where
in the Ghetto? I'm interested in finding the birth record of a
person who was born in December 1942 in the Lodz's Ghetto.
Maybe it's difficult because it's not over 100 years?
In response to the above message: I doubt that birth or death
records were kept in 1942. But the Lodz Ghetto Register, which
lists over 250,000 names, might be a good source of information.
In that source, 605 persons are listed who were born in 1942; and 12
were born in December 1942.

Dan

Daniel Kazez
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/fam-ent/
mailto:dkazez@...

Poland: TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK,
BRODA, SZEWCZYK, RAYZMAN, LEWKOWICZ, SZPALTYN, OFMAN, ZYLBERBERG,
KRZEPICKI, LUKS, MOSZKOWICZ, STROZ, SZWIMER, GUTMAN, PESACH,
FEYNER/FEINER/FAYNER, BORZYKOWSKI
Ukraine: OBERMAN-HOBERMAN-GUBERMAN, LISS, SOBLE-SOBEL, STEIN,
AKSMAN-AXMAN
Turkey: KAZEZ-KAZES, ALHADEF-ELHADEF, FRESKO-FRESCO, HABIB, DEVIDAS-DE
VIDAS


BECK / TEMKIN from Ukraine to Providence #general

RUTH Beck <rbeck49@...>
 

I am looking for info on Harry BECK and Lizzie TEMKIN. Both came >from the
Ukraine. Dvorah Bolotow and Noah Temkin were Lizzie's parents, I think
they came >from Ludavitch, 1890's or so. Thanks for any information. RB

Ruth Beck


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen BECK / TEMKIN from Ukraine to Providence #general

RUTH Beck <rbeck49@...>
 

I am looking for info on Harry BECK and Lizzie TEMKIN. Both came >from the
Ukraine. Dvorah Bolotow and Noah Temkin were Lizzie's parents, I think
they came >from Ludavitch, 1890's or so. Thanks for any information. RB

Ruth Beck


Re: "Gaditsch., Russia" #general

NFatouros@...
 

On June 6, 03 Mike Posnick (mpoz@...) wrote:

<<A relative's Petition for Naturalization recites his children's
birthplace as "Gaditch, Russia." I have been unable to locate the town.
Does anyone know where it is, possibly in the vicinity of Pinsk or Novyy
Sverzhen, Belarus, and its current name?>>

Despite Mr. Poznick belief that his relative' mystery town might be in
the vicinity of Pinsk or Novyy Sverzhen, I am suggesting that "Gaditch"
could be Hodiatch, also known as Gadac. But some other Jewihsgenner might
write to say that I should have sat on my hands rather than type this
response!

Hodiatch is east of Kiev and north of Polatava. Chester G. Cohen's
"Shtetl" Finder Gazetter has an entry for it, and so does "Where We Once
Walked" (WWOW). WWOW offers no information about Hodiatch (or Gadec) and
says only that it could not be found under the given spelling in the
gazetteers of the US Board on Geographic Naomes.

Mr. Posnick should try Jewishgen's ShtetlSeeker to see whether there are
closer matches, and also try to find his relative's ship manifest to see
how the EIDB volunteers spelled it in transcription and to see how the
mystery town was spelled on the manifest itself.


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@...
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN,
Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY,
Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev;
BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.

MODERATOR NOTE: The ShtetlSeeker can be searched at
<http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/>.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: "Gaditsch., Russia" #general

NFatouros@...
 

On June 6, 03 Mike Posnick (mpoz@...) wrote:

<<A relative's Petition for Naturalization recites his children's
birthplace as "Gaditch, Russia." I have been unable to locate the town.
Does anyone know where it is, possibly in the vicinity of Pinsk or Novyy
Sverzhen, Belarus, and its current name?>>

Despite Mr. Poznick belief that his relative' mystery town might be in
the vicinity of Pinsk or Novyy Sverzhen, I am suggesting that "Gaditch"
could be Hodiatch, also known as Gadac. But some other Jewihsgenner might
write to say that I should have sat on my hands rather than type this
response!

Hodiatch is east of Kiev and north of Polatava. Chester G. Cohen's
"Shtetl" Finder Gazetter has an entry for it, and so does "Where We Once
Walked" (WWOW). WWOW offers no information about Hodiatch (or Gadec) and
says only that it could not be found under the given spelling in the
gazetteers of the US Board on Geographic Naomes.

Mr. Posnick should try Jewishgen's ShtetlSeeker to see whether there are
closer matches, and also try to find his relative's ship manifest to see
how the EIDB volunteers spelled it in transcription and to see how the
mystery town was spelled on the manifest itself.


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@...
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN,
Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY,
Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev;
BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.

MODERATOR NOTE: The ShtetlSeeker can be searched at
<http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/>.


Kortz Russia? #general

Shawn Harris <mail@...>
 

My mother's birth certificate lists her father's place of birth as Kortz
Russia. Unfortunatly, I'm not able to find any references to this city.
Any assistance here would be greatly appreciated. Bye the way, he was born
in 1902.

Thank you,
--
Shawn Harris
Everett, WA
mail@...
If you reply, be sure and remove the '-NOSPAM-' >from my email address.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Kortz Russia? #general

Shawn Harris <mail@...>
 

My mother's birth certificate lists her father's place of birth as Kortz
Russia. Unfortunatly, I'm not able to find any references to this city.
Any assistance here would be greatly appreciated. Bye the way, he was born
in 1902.

Thank you,
--
Shawn Harris
Everett, WA
mail@...
If you reply, be sure and remove the '-NOSPAM-' >from my email address.