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Re: What documents were necessary for Russian emigration? #general

Peter Zavon <PZavon@...>
 

Prior to the establishment of immigration controls and visa requirements
after WWI, passports and other travel documents were not required for one
to board a vessel heading to the US. Immigration inspection took place
upon arrival (that is what Ellis Island was all about). The steamship
company was required to return to port of origin those found unsuitable
for entry into the US. That return was at no additional charge to the
passenger and is one reason the companies came, in time, to do a more or
less careful inspection of their own before departing Europe.

--
Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY 14526

PZavon@...

"Daniel Feldman" <df8@...> wrote in message

For historical background, I am most interested in learning more about
the documentation and the process for an immigrant >from Russia,
1880-1920, to come to the US. Books that I have read on the general
subject of Jewish
immigration do not directly address this issue. I have read that valid
"papers" or passports were required for legal border crossings at the
German or Austrian frontier. But I believe a number of immigrants crossed
borders at points chosen to evade border authorities. This implies a lack
of papers, or at least valid or acceptable ones. Also, could one board a
steamship bound for the US without travel documents?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: What documents were necessary for Russian emigration? #general

Peter Zavon <PZavon@...>
 

Prior to the establishment of immigration controls and visa requirements
after WWI, passports and other travel documents were not required for one
to board a vessel heading to the US. Immigration inspection took place
upon arrival (that is what Ellis Island was all about). The steamship
company was required to return to port of origin those found unsuitable
for entry into the US. That return was at no additional charge to the
passenger and is one reason the companies came, in time, to do a more or
less careful inspection of their own before departing Europe.

--
Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY 14526

PZavon@...

"Daniel Feldman" <df8@...> wrote in message

For historical background, I am most interested in learning more about
the documentation and the process for an immigrant >from Russia,
1880-1920, to come to the US. Books that I have read on the general
subject of Jewish
immigration do not directly address this issue. I have read that valid
"papers" or passports were required for legal border crossings at the
German or Austrian frontier. But I believe a number of immigrants crossed
borders at points chosen to evade border authorities. This implies a lack
of papers, or at least valid or acceptable ones. Also, could one board a
steamship bound for the US without travel documents?


3 translations needed on Viewmate #general

Paul Silverstone
 

I have posted three items on Viewmate for translation >from Yiddish,
which are writings on the back of three snapshots taken in 1927.
Numbers 2588, 2589, 2590.
see:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html

or specifically:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2588
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2589
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2590

These were taken when my grandparents returned to visit their hometown
of Makow in Poland. Please reply directly to me and not the whole
list. to paulh@...
Thank you.

--
Paul Silverstone
New York
please reply to paulh@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 3 translations needed on Viewmate #general

Paul Silverstone
 

I have posted three items on Viewmate for translation >from Yiddish,
which are writings on the back of three snapshots taken in 1927.
Numbers 2588, 2589, 2590.
see:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html

or specifically:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2588
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2589
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2590

These were taken when my grandparents returned to visit their hometown
of Makow in Poland. Please reply directly to me and not the whole
list. to paulh@...
Thank you.

--
Paul Silverstone
New York
please reply to paulh@...


haRav HaGoan R' Zvi Hacohen #general

Avrum Lapin <avrum113@...>
 

Who was Zvi Cohen and why was a newspaper clipping of his photo with
a black border retained by my grandmother? I found it in a pile of
pictures of her family members which were in my fathers house


The caption in Yiddish translates
HaRav HaGoan R' Zvi HaCohen Zil

I know that Zvi Cohen might as well be John Doe but....

The picture was obviously published at the time of his death. He was
elderly, had a long white beard, wore a yarlmuka and his "jacket" has
patterned swirls on it (I have seen pictures of Chassidics wearing
this type of coat).

The back of the clipping contains want ads for what I think are rooms
for rent with street names and phone exchanges that existed in
Montreal. (it looks strange to see St Urbain St. spelt out in
Yiddish. Telephone exchanges such as Talon, Dollard Calumet and
Atlantic are also rendered in Yiddish).

Hint: My grandmother, who was definitely not shomer Orthodox, came
from Bialistok where her father was alternately a Yeshiva Bocker or a
Maggid depending on who is asked. The picture predates 1954 (the year
my Grandmother passed away). It was a year when a furnished room on
what looks like Maplewood rented for $28/mo
--
Avrum Lapin, of Upland, CA
avrum113@...

Researching:
LAPIN Grodno
LAPUNSKI Grodno,Indura and Sokolka
KATZ,Abraham Bialystok and Sokolka
LUBELSKY Bialystok
RODIN Winnipeg and Gomel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen haRav HaGoan R' Zvi Hacohen #general

Avrum Lapin <avrum113@...>
 

Who was Zvi Cohen and why was a newspaper clipping of his photo with
a black border retained by my grandmother? I found it in a pile of
pictures of her family members which were in my fathers house


The caption in Yiddish translates
HaRav HaGoan R' Zvi HaCohen Zil

I know that Zvi Cohen might as well be John Doe but....

The picture was obviously published at the time of his death. He was
elderly, had a long white beard, wore a yarlmuka and his "jacket" has
patterned swirls on it (I have seen pictures of Chassidics wearing
this type of coat).

The back of the clipping contains want ads for what I think are rooms
for rent with street names and phone exchanges that existed in
Montreal. (it looks strange to see St Urbain St. spelt out in
Yiddish. Telephone exchanges such as Talon, Dollard Calumet and
Atlantic are also rendered in Yiddish).

Hint: My grandmother, who was definitely not shomer Orthodox, came
from Bialistok where her father was alternately a Yeshiva Bocker or a
Maggid depending on who is asked. The picture predates 1954 (the year
my Grandmother passed away). It was a year when a furnished room on
what looks like Maplewood rented for $28/mo
--
Avrum Lapin, of Upland, CA
avrum113@...

Researching:
LAPIN Grodno
LAPUNSKI Grodno,Indura and Sokolka
KATZ,Abraham Bialystok and Sokolka
LUBELSKY Bialystok
RODIN Winnipeg and Gomel


Re: Concerning a Jewish community or Jews in Pakistan #general

יונתן בן-ארי <yonatan@...>
 

According to the World Jewish Committee in Jerusalem, they are not aware
of any Jewish community in Pakistan.

Yonatan Ben-Ari
Jerusalem

-----Original Message-----

I have got to know there's maybe a Jewish community or a Jews in
Pakistan town Lahore. If anyone have this information I really want to
have it. I have a Jewish friend >from Pakistan who wants to know it
and I'm helping him.
My e-mail: kristyp16@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Concerning a Jewish community or Jews in Pakistan #general

יונתן בן-ארי <yonatan@...>
 

According to the World Jewish Committee in Jerusalem, they are not aware
of any Jewish community in Pakistan.

Yonatan Ben-Ari
Jerusalem

-----Original Message-----

I have got to know there's maybe a Jewish community or a Jews in
Pakistan town Lahore. If anyone have this information I really want to
have it. I have a Jewish friend >from Pakistan who wants to know it
and I'm helping him.
My e-mail: kristyp16@...


Re: Wills in Butte, Montana #general

Mike Posnick
 

To John Phillips and the list:

Butte, Montana, is located in Silver Bow County. The city and county
governments were consolidated in 1977 (see
<http://www.co.silverbow.mt.us/>).

The Clerk of Courts, whose name presently is Lori Maloney, is responsible
for will and court records. The office address is:

Clerk of Courts
Courthouse, Room 313
155 West Granite Street
Butte, Montana 59701

The e-mail address is <clkofcourt@...> and the office
telephone number is (406) 497-6350.

Mike Posnick
Minneapolis, Minesota
e-mail: mpoz@...

In his JewishGen message of 7/6/2003 -0500, John Phillips
<garranuk@...> wrote:

I wonder whether someone in the US can point mem in
the right direction. I'd like to see whether my gt
uncle who died in 1923 in Butte, Montana left a Will.
Which authority should I write to. I have a photo of
his grave in the Jewish cemetery in Butte, and know he
was a US citizen. Any suggestions?


ViewMate Posts #general

kenandi <kenandi@...>
 

A sincere "thankyou", to all that responded to my request for translation
and help with my posts.

Your responses were appreciated, and extremely helpful.

As a first time user of this list, I was amazed at the amount of
information and help that was offered.

I have gained more knowledge, regarding my ancestors - and even found
another branch of my tree.

Once again, "thankyou" all.

Regards,
Dianne Duncanson - Clark

Researching: BARNETT / AARONS / JOSEPH


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Wills in Butte, Montana #general

Mike Posnick
 

To John Phillips and the list:

Butte, Montana, is located in Silver Bow County. The city and county
governments were consolidated in 1977 (see
<http://www.co.silverbow.mt.us/>).

The Clerk of Courts, whose name presently is Lori Maloney, is responsible
for will and court records. The office address is:

Clerk of Courts
Courthouse, Room 313
155 West Granite Street
Butte, Montana 59701

The e-mail address is <clkofcourt@...> and the office
telephone number is (406) 497-6350.

Mike Posnick
Minneapolis, Minesota
e-mail: mpoz@...

In his JewishGen message of 7/6/2003 -0500, John Phillips
<garranuk@...> wrote:

I wonder whether someone in the US can point mem in
the right direction. I'd like to see whether my gt
uncle who died in 1923 in Butte, Montana left a Will.
Which authority should I write to. I have a photo of
his grave in the Jewish cemetery in Butte, and know he
was a US citizen. Any suggestions?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate Posts #general

kenandi <kenandi@...>
 

A sincere "thankyou", to all that responded to my request for translation
and help with my posts.

Your responses were appreciated, and extremely helpful.

As a first time user of this list, I was amazed at the amount of
information and help that was offered.

I have gained more knowledge, regarding my ancestors - and even found
another branch of my tree.

Once again, "thankyou" all.

Regards,
Dianne Duncanson - Clark

Researching: BARNETT / AARONS / JOSEPH


Re: Long-Distance acquaintance & marriage #general

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

The answer to question has so many possible answers and I can cite a few:

1. The husband was a businessman and travelled to Indianapolis where he
either knew or met the girl or her family.

2. The husband lived in Indianapolis prior to moving to New Mexico.

3. The wife met her husband on vacation.

And many more possibilities . . . . including my favorite long distance
family story: my aunt was travelling with her father and my mother when
she met her husband on a train between Manchester and Leeds in 1928. He
was a businessman >from Leeds and she was going to her sister's engagement
party in Leeds. He struck up a conversation with my grandfather who
invited him to visit when he was next in Manchester and that was
that . . . and my aunt's daughter, later married someone she met at a
family friend's wedding in Dublin.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Long-Distance acquaintance & marriage #general

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

The answer to question has so many possible answers and I can cite a few:

1. The husband was a businessman and travelled to Indianapolis where he
either knew or met the girl or her family.

2. The husband lived in Indianapolis prior to moving to New Mexico.

3. The wife met her husband on vacation.

And many more possibilities . . . . including my favorite long distance
family story: my aunt was travelling with her father and my mother when
she met her husband on a train between Manchester and Leeds in 1928. He
was a businessman >from Leeds and she was going to her sister's engagement
party in Leeds. He struck up a conversation with my grandfather who
invited him to visit when he was next in Manchester and that was
that . . . and my aunt's daughter, later married someone she met at a
family friend's wedding in Dublin.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...


The HINSTIN family #france

georges <georges.graner@...>
 

Dear Siggers,
I believe, but I am not sure, that all HINSTIN are a single family. But
where and when did they take this surname? I have not been able to find
this name in the 1808 tables. I would especially like to know whether
Joseph HINSTIN who married after 1808 Jeannette BRUNSCHVICG (b. 18.1.1792
at Luemschwiller) is the father or the brother of Samuel HINSTIN who
married Madeleine BENEDICK ?

georges.graner@...
Webmaster of the Website of "Cercle de Généalogie Juive"
www.genealoj.org
Paris, France


French SIG #France The HINSTIN family #france

georges <georges.graner@...>
 

Dear Siggers,
I believe, but I am not sure, that all HINSTIN are a single family. But
where and when did they take this surname? I have not been able to find
this name in the 1808 tables. I would especially like to know whether
Joseph HINSTIN who married after 1808 Jeannette BRUNSCHVICG (b. 18.1.1792
at Luemschwiller) is the father or the brother of Samuel HINSTIN who
married Madeleine BENEDICK ?

georges.graner@...
Webmaster of the Website of "Cercle de Généalogie Juive"
www.genealoj.org
Paris, France


Re: Rabbi Joseph GRUNBLATT #rabbinic

Sebastian Wain <sebastian_wain@...>
 

On 2003.07.04, "Yisrael Asper" <yisraelasper@...> wrote:

I am the son of a second cousin of Rabbi Joseph GRUNBLATT, who
worked with OU for Kashrus and was for a while Vice President of the
Rabbinical Council of America, which is the rabbinical branch of OU.
Does anyone have any information on his ancestry?
Dear Yisrael Asper,

I think you can follow your research about GRUNBLATT contacting
Jabad Lubavitch Argentina http://www.jabad.org.ar/ or e-mailing
jabarg@...

There are many GRUNBLATT Rabbis there, two important contacts are:

- Tzvi Grunblatt
- Natán Grunblatt

You can see more details at:
http://www.jabad.org.ar/consultas.asp?rebe=14

Regards,

Sebastian Wain

Researching: WAIN, WAJN(Byalistok); STAROBINSKY/I, (Gornostaypol);
HOCHBERG (Gliniany); LATRINSKI/Y, LATARINSKI/Y, LATARINSKA
(Byalistok); SCHLOSSER(Gliniany); [RABBINIC]MEN (Gornostaypol);
BLAUSTEIN (Gliniany); SIEBERT (Gliniany).


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: Rabbi Joseph GRUNBLATT #rabbinic

Sebastian Wain <sebastian_wain@...>
 

On 2003.07.04, "Yisrael Asper" <yisraelasper@...> wrote:

I am the son of a second cousin of Rabbi Joseph GRUNBLATT, who
worked with OU for Kashrus and was for a while Vice President of the
Rabbinical Council of America, which is the rabbinical branch of OU.
Does anyone have any information on his ancestry?
Dear Yisrael Asper,

I think you can follow your research about GRUNBLATT contacting
Jabad Lubavitch Argentina http://www.jabad.org.ar/ or e-mailing
jabarg@...

There are many GRUNBLATT Rabbis there, two important contacts are:

- Tzvi Grunblatt
- Natán Grunblatt

You can see more details at:
http://www.jabad.org.ar/consultas.asp?rebe=14

Regards,

Sebastian Wain

Researching: WAIN, WAJN(Byalistok); STAROBINSKY/I, (Gornostaypol);
HOCHBERG (Gliniany); LATRINSKI/Y, LATARINSKI/Y, LATARINSKA
(Byalistok); SCHLOSSER(Gliniany); [RABBINIC]MEN (Gornostaypol);
BLAUSTEIN (Gliniany); SIEBERT (Gliniany).


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine FTM, a simple question, follow up #ukraine

Ron Goldman
 

Subject: FTM, a simple question


Thanks to all who have so quickly responded
I have the answer.

Thank you all, so much.

Ron Goldman,FL.
preshtek@...

Can someone tell me if installing an updated version (CD) of FTM
will automatically override an earlier installed version and SAVE
all the previously entered data?

I need no other product info, just this simple answer. Please answer
privately.

Thanks,

Ron Goldman, FL.
preshtek@...


FTM, a simple question, follow up #ukraine

Ron Goldman
 

Subject: FTM, a simple question


Thanks to all who have so quickly responded
I have the answer.

Thank you all, so much.

Ron Goldman,FL.
preshtek@...

Can someone tell me if installing an updated version (CD) of FTM
will automatically override an earlier installed version and SAVE
all the previously entered data?

I need no other product info, just this simple answer. Please answer
privately.

Thanks,

Ron Goldman, FL.
preshtek@...