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Stammbaum magazine #germany

Peter Zimmer <Zimmer-Luedinghausen@...>
 

Hi,
I am trying to order latest edition of "Stammbaum" but don't seem to be
very successful. Can anybody tell me what to do? Thank you,

Peter Zimmer Muenster Germany

MODERATOR NOTE: The latest edition of "Stammbaum" has not yet been sent
to subscribers. The following is >from the Stammbaum home page at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/stammbaum/

"Back issues:
Individual issues: US$ 10.00, international US$ 12.00
All back issues (17 items: 1-19): US$ 160.00, international US$ 170.00
Checks should be made payable to "Leo Baeck Institute". Send all
correspondence regarding Stammbaum to:

Stammbaum
Leo Baeck Institute
4th Floor
15 W 16th St
New York, NY 10011
e-mail: kfranklin@lbi.cjh.org "


German SIG #Germany Stammbaum magazine #germany

Peter Zimmer <Zimmer-Luedinghausen@...>
 

Hi,
I am trying to order latest edition of "Stammbaum" but don't seem to be
very successful. Can anybody tell me what to do? Thank you,

Peter Zimmer Muenster Germany

MODERATOR NOTE: The latest edition of "Stammbaum" has not yet been sent
to subscribers. The following is >from the Stammbaum home page at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/stammbaum/

"Back issues:
Individual issues: US$ 10.00, international US$ 12.00
All back issues (17 items: 1-19): US$ 160.00, international US$ 170.00
Checks should be made payable to "Leo Baeck Institute". Send all
correspondence regarding Stammbaum to:

Stammbaum
Leo Baeck Institute
4th Floor
15 W 16th St
New York, NY 10011
e-mail: kfranklin@lbi.cjh.org "


special thanks #general

Sara Lynns
 

to Genealogy Forum of Oregon
if any of you are having difficulty in making progress
with your family research, I recommend the Genealogy
Forum.

I attended this group last week
asked questions at the roundtable

they made suggestions like:
searching for neighbors on the census records
of LERNER family

WWI draft registration search for my paternal
grandfather
I did not consider that, as he was about 35 years of
age in 1917/18.

I also want to thank JGSO (in Oregon) for their help
and support.

I've not given up!

Hang in there
Jackie Lerner-Aderman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen special thanks #general

Sara Lynns
 

to Genealogy Forum of Oregon
if any of you are having difficulty in making progress
with your family research, I recommend the Genealogy
Forum.

I attended this group last week
asked questions at the roundtable

they made suggestions like:
searching for neighbors on the census records
of LERNER family

WWI draft registration search for my paternal
grandfather
I did not consider that, as he was about 35 years of
age in 1917/18.

I also want to thank JGSO (in Oregon) for their help
and support.

I've not given up!

Hang in there
Jackie Lerner-Aderman


Trying to locate a town in Russia (1915) #general

Dixie Halber <dhalber@...>
 

Genners,
I am trying to locate the town that my husband's greatgrandfather, Yankiel
(Jacob) Rechter, is from. Here's the information we have, perhaps someone
can help us unravel the mystery.

He arrived at the port of Philadelphia in 1910. The manifest listed his
city of birth as Szranetz Russia and last residence as Valetchish. He
listed his father as the relative in Russia in the town of Moloczok
(possibly, it was hard to make out on the manifest and I neglected to copy
it). On his naturalization papers (which I do have a copy of) also list
the cities as Szranetz and Valetchish.

On the 1920 Philadelphia census he is listed as being >from Russia. In the
1930 census, it says he is >from Poland. Presumably this is because the
area he was >from was then under the ruling of Poland.

I have checked ShtetlSeeker and can find no exact match and the soundex
matches are too numerous to even begin. I have poured over a 1915 map of
Poland and Russia and can't find anything that seems likely. Has anyone
ever heard of this place? There isn't much information on this side of the
family and I'm having trouble narrowing down where it might be.

Dixie Halber
dhalber@sigecom.net
Researching: HALBER, RECHTER, BRING, WIDRO, PHILLIPS, TAUBER


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Trying to locate a town in Russia (1915) #general

Dixie Halber <dhalber@...>
 

Genners,
I am trying to locate the town that my husband's greatgrandfather, Yankiel
(Jacob) Rechter, is from. Here's the information we have, perhaps someone
can help us unravel the mystery.

He arrived at the port of Philadelphia in 1910. The manifest listed his
city of birth as Szranetz Russia and last residence as Valetchish. He
listed his father as the relative in Russia in the town of Moloczok
(possibly, it was hard to make out on the manifest and I neglected to copy
it). On his naturalization papers (which I do have a copy of) also list
the cities as Szranetz and Valetchish.

On the 1920 Philadelphia census he is listed as being >from Russia. In the
1930 census, it says he is >from Poland. Presumably this is because the
area he was >from was then under the ruling of Poland.

I have checked ShtetlSeeker and can find no exact match and the soundex
matches are too numerous to even begin. I have poured over a 1915 map of
Poland and Russia and can't find anything that seems likely. Has anyone
ever heard of this place? There isn't much information on this side of the
family and I'm having trouble narrowing down where it might be.

Dixie Halber
dhalber@sigecom.net
Researching: HALBER, RECHTER, BRING, WIDRO, PHILLIPS, TAUBER


NUSBAUM family #general

Sara Lynns
 

I'm looking for Sam OR Nathan NUSBAUM (or descendants)
Sam born 1899 or thereabouts) Nathan born 1867
lived in the Bronx as of 1930 census.

please respond privately
saralynn7@yahoo.com

Jackie Lerner-Aderman
Portland, OR


Re: Certel #general

Roger Lustig <trovato@...>
 

Dear Israel:
If the 'C' is to be pronounced like the TZ in Tzaddik, then what you
have is a form of Zaertel, a diminutive of Zart, meaning "tender." In
the records I have (>from Upper Silesia), the name appears several times;
sometimes along with Sara, sometimes simply as the Hebrew name. Some
women named Charlotte had Zaertel as their "Hebrew" names; over half the
Charlottes were Sara. So Sara isn't unlikely; but Zartel or Zertel
showed up on tombstones too.

Best,
Roger Lustig
Princeton, NJ

Can anyone tell me the root of the female name Certel? Is it a form of
Sarah? We have two Certel born near Tarnopol in the 1890's.

Israel Pickholtz


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen NUSBAUM family #general

Sara Lynns
 

I'm looking for Sam OR Nathan NUSBAUM (or descendants)
Sam born 1899 or thereabouts) Nathan born 1867
lived in the Bronx as of 1930 census.

please respond privately
saralynn7@yahoo.com

Jackie Lerner-Aderman
Portland, OR


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Certel #general

Roger Lustig <trovato@...>
 

Dear Israel:
If the 'C' is to be pronounced like the TZ in Tzaddik, then what you
have is a form of Zaertel, a diminutive of Zart, meaning "tender." In
the records I have (>from Upper Silesia), the name appears several times;
sometimes along with Sara, sometimes simply as the Hebrew name. Some
women named Charlotte had Zaertel as their "Hebrew" names; over half the
Charlottes were Sara. So Sara isn't unlikely; but Zartel or Zertel
showed up on tombstones too.

Best,
Roger Lustig
Princeton, NJ

Can anyone tell me the root of the female name Certel? Is it a form of
Sarah? We have two Certel born near Tarnopol in the 1890's.

Israel Pickholtz


Re: Kovishansky-Kovechensky B. Collins #17114 #general

rokoco1@...
 

Dear Genners,

I am sorry to send this to the entire group. My e mails to Barbara Collins
researcher #17114 keep bouncing.

Dear Barbara,

I found your listing in JGFF. I am researcher #27856.

Since our names are spelled similarly and pronounced about the same, I am
sending you the information I have on:

My KOVISHANSKY/KOVIN family

Possible original spelling could be KAVUSHANSKIJ

Reb Yisroel Yakov was my pgggf
Isaac/Jacob b. about 1859 in Kishinev was my pggf. He died Aug. 1906 in
Chicago, Il . At the time of his death he was living at 355 Maxwell St. He
was a store keeper (possibly a grocer).

He was survived by his wife Ethel (Yetta/Etta) ACHENBLUT (any spelling).
She died in Chicago on April 17, 1931. She was about 66 years old. She
came >from Soroki near Kishinev. She may have been born in Kishinev.
The informant on her death certificate was SAMUEL D. HACKEN living at 3527
W Van Buren, Chgo.I am assuming that some Achenblut's changed their name
to Hacken. It makes very good sense. At the time of her death she was
living at 1141S Springfield Av. Chicago, Il.

They had 9 children, some of which were born in Kishinev and the rest in
Chicago ,IL.

Abe b 1884 d 1923, was married to Mollie Molshansky/Molshavsky
Sam was married to Sadie ?
Bessie was married to Adolph Kohler
Rebecca was married to Abe Jacobs
Sarah was married to Harry Freed/Fried
David (my pgf) was married to Florence Marks
Henrietta was married to Irving Covan
Mildred was married to Jack Seigal
Rose b. 1903 was married to Jack Kramer & Charles Cohen

All the children and spouses are now deceased.

In 1918, their son Dave changed the family name to KOVIN, but I understand
that some kept the KOVISHANSKY name.


Does any of this info ring a bell, or is their anyone in your family to
check with?

Looking forward to hearing >from you
Regards,
Bobbi Cohen
San Diego, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Kovishansky-Kovechensky B. Collins #17114 #general

rokoco1@...
 

Dear Genners,

I am sorry to send this to the entire group. My e mails to Barbara Collins
researcher #17114 keep bouncing.

Dear Barbara,

I found your listing in JGFF. I am researcher #27856.

Since our names are spelled similarly and pronounced about the same, I am
sending you the information I have on:

My KOVISHANSKY/KOVIN family

Possible original spelling could be KAVUSHANSKIJ

Reb Yisroel Yakov was my pgggf
Isaac/Jacob b. about 1859 in Kishinev was my pggf. He died Aug. 1906 in
Chicago, Il . At the time of his death he was living at 355 Maxwell St. He
was a store keeper (possibly a grocer).

He was survived by his wife Ethel (Yetta/Etta) ACHENBLUT (any spelling).
She died in Chicago on April 17, 1931. She was about 66 years old. She
came >from Soroki near Kishinev. She may have been born in Kishinev.
The informant on her death certificate was SAMUEL D. HACKEN living at 3527
W Van Buren, Chgo.I am assuming that some Achenblut's changed their name
to Hacken. It makes very good sense. At the time of her death she was
living at 1141S Springfield Av. Chicago, Il.

They had 9 children, some of which were born in Kishinev and the rest in
Chicago ,IL.

Abe b 1884 d 1923, was married to Mollie Molshansky/Molshavsky
Sam was married to Sadie ?
Bessie was married to Adolph Kohler
Rebecca was married to Abe Jacobs
Sarah was married to Harry Freed/Fried
David (my pgf) was married to Florence Marks
Henrietta was married to Irving Covan
Mildred was married to Jack Seigal
Rose b. 1903 was married to Jack Kramer & Charles Cohen

All the children and spouses are now deceased.

In 1918, their son Dave changed the family name to KOVIN, but I understand
that some kept the KOVISHANSKY name.


Does any of this info ring a bell, or is their anyone in your family to
check with?

Looking forward to hearing >from you
Regards,
Bobbi Cohen
San Diego, CA


Photo Archive #unitedkingdom

judithghert <judithghert@...>
 

Does anyone know of a photo archive in England or elsewhere that would have
very early views of the east end of London.?I am interested in a commercial
thoroughfare SHADWELL HIGH STREET in the 19th century.I believe the area was
bombed during WW11 and is now part of the Docklands Development.

Judith Ghert
Toronto, Canada
judithghert@rogers.com


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Photo Archive #unitedkingdom

judithghert <judithghert@...>
 

Does anyone know of a photo archive in England or elsewhere that would have
very early views of the east end of London.?I am interested in a commercial
thoroughfare SHADWELL HIGH STREET in the 19th century.I believe the area was
bombed during WW11 and is now part of the Docklands Development.

Judith Ghert
Toronto, Canada
judithghert@rogers.com


Jewish Records Indexing - Poland 'Research Guide' #general

Stanley Diamond
 

An updated version of the Jewish Records Indexing Poland
Research Guide is now available for downloading >from the
JRI-Poland home page at www.jri-poland.org. Once again
we thank fellow researcher, Morris Spector of Hamden, CT,
for his generous help with the graphic design of the guide.

The Research Guide is distributed each year to attendees
at the International Conference on Jewish Genealogy and
then made available on the website for the benefit of all
researchers with an interest in Jewish records of Poland.

JRI-Poland would like to make the guide available in other
languages, particularly French, Spanish, Hebrew and Russian.
We invite our supporters and researchers to download the
guide and provide text in these or other languages that
may be of interest to genealogists around the world.

Please let us know if you are interested in providing a
translation. If you would like to work with the original
WORD document, that will be provided on request.

Stanley Diamond
Jewish Records Indexing - Poland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish Records Indexing - Poland 'Research Guide' #general

Stanley Diamond
 

An updated version of the Jewish Records Indexing Poland
Research Guide is now available for downloading >from the
JRI-Poland home page at www.jri-poland.org. Once again
we thank fellow researcher, Morris Spector of Hamden, CT,
for his generous help with the graphic design of the guide.

The Research Guide is distributed each year to attendees
at the International Conference on Jewish Genealogy and
then made available on the website for the benefit of all
researchers with an interest in Jewish records of Poland.

JRI-Poland would like to make the guide available in other
languages, particularly French, Spanish, Hebrew and Russian.
We invite our supporters and researchers to download the
guide and provide text in these or other languages that
may be of interest to genealogists around the world.

Please let us know if you are interested in providing a
translation. If you would like to work with the original
WORD document, that will be provided on request.

Stanley Diamond
Jewish Records Indexing - Poland


Re: English name for Ima #general

L. <sscarlett30@...>
 

Merv,

I'm not sure that I understand what your question is. Or I am just
having a dense day.

Lara Clark
Houston, Texas


mglow@dc.rr.com wrote:

I have secured Canadian Naturalization papers for my uncle. In it he lists
as one of his children "Ima." I know, in Hebrew ima means mother. Can
anyone help solve this mystery?
Merv Glow
Palm Springs
mglow@dc.rr.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: English name for Ima #general

L. <sscarlett30@...>
 

Merv,

I'm not sure that I understand what your question is. Or I am just
having a dense day.

Lara Clark
Houston, Texas


mglow@dc.rr.com wrote:

I have secured Canadian Naturalization papers for my uncle. In it he lists
as one of his children "Ima." I know, in Hebrew ima means mother. Can
anyone help solve this mystery?
Merv Glow
Palm Springs
mglow@dc.rr.com


Was Ira Jewish? #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 8/2/2003 9:55:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
sallybru@wdcunet.net very gracious acknowledged an unfortunate
misunderstanding, in a previous message

<< Well, I learned something today. I have extracted many Polish and
Lithuanian records for different towns and had never seen the name Ira.
I didn't know it was a Yiddish name or a Hebrew name as various people
have pointed out-or that it was in the Bible.

She continues with:
However, it was certainly not a common Hebrew/Yiddish name in the areas
I am familiar with, and I would stick by the point of my previous
posting:
it was probably an 'American' version of some more common
Hebrew/Yiddish name made up for someone who never was in the US. >>

No, Ira has never been as popular a name among Jews as Isaac or Jacob.
Anyone not fully aware of the genealogy and history of that area can
certainly be excused for not knowing that it was recorded in the areas of
greater Russia (incl Poland and Podolia) as early at 1765.

Sally's last assumption that Ira "was probably an 'American' version"
is difficult to support. True, there was Ira Gershwin in America, but he
was Jewish. There have been some 19th century non-Jews named Ira who were
born in the USA, notably Ira Remsen, co-inventor of saccharine, and Ira
Frederick Aldridge, a Black actor famous for tragic roles--but he lived
mostly in Europe (and, coincidence? died in Lodz).

Ira became an "American" name only after it became popular with the
influx of Jewish immigrants >from Eastern Europe.

The Random House Dictionary lists Ira as "a male given name: >from a
Hebrew word meaning 'watchful'. That would be spelled with an initial
`ayin, not with the initial aleph as is the East European Jewish name
derived >from Uri. (Beider also gives an Ira with the `ayin initial.)

To claim that a Jew in Eastern Europe who was called Ira, and never came
to the USA, actually had a different name in the old country and that an
American relative simply "Americanized" his name to Ira, would be akin to
claiming that Michael could not be a Jew and is really an Irishman living
in Dublin, or that Sally's name must have been imposed on her
retroactively by a relative living in Salonika.

Ira was a Jewish name in Europe in the 18th and 19th century. There can
be no doubt about that. There is no need or reason to suppose it was
really an American name imposed retroactively on his ancestor by some
Jewish immigrant in the USA who couldn't think of a better name.

Michael Bernet, New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Was Ira Jewish? #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 8/2/2003 9:55:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
sallybru@wdcunet.net very gracious acknowledged an unfortunate
misunderstanding, in a previous message

<< Well, I learned something today. I have extracted many Polish and
Lithuanian records for different towns and had never seen the name Ira.
I didn't know it was a Yiddish name or a Hebrew name as various people
have pointed out-or that it was in the Bible.

She continues with:
However, it was certainly not a common Hebrew/Yiddish name in the areas
I am familiar with, and I would stick by the point of my previous
posting:
it was probably an 'American' version of some more common
Hebrew/Yiddish name made up for someone who never was in the US. >>

No, Ira has never been as popular a name among Jews as Isaac or Jacob.
Anyone not fully aware of the genealogy and history of that area can
certainly be excused for not knowing that it was recorded in the areas of
greater Russia (incl Poland and Podolia) as early at 1765.

Sally's last assumption that Ira "was probably an 'American' version"
is difficult to support. True, there was Ira Gershwin in America, but he
was Jewish. There have been some 19th century non-Jews named Ira who were
born in the USA, notably Ira Remsen, co-inventor of saccharine, and Ira
Frederick Aldridge, a Black actor famous for tragic roles--but he lived
mostly in Europe (and, coincidence? died in Lodz).

Ira became an "American" name only after it became popular with the
influx of Jewish immigrants >from Eastern Europe.

The Random House Dictionary lists Ira as "a male given name: >from a
Hebrew word meaning 'watchful'. That would be spelled with an initial
`ayin, not with the initial aleph as is the East European Jewish name
derived >from Uri. (Beider also gives an Ira with the `ayin initial.)

To claim that a Jew in Eastern Europe who was called Ira, and never came
to the USA, actually had a different name in the old country and that an
American relative simply "Americanized" his name to Ira, would be akin to
claiming that Michael could not be a Jew and is really an Irishman living
in Dublin, or that Sally's name must have been imposed on her
retroactively by a relative living in Salonika.

Ira was a Jewish name in Europe in the 18th and 19th century. There can
be no doubt about that. There is no need or reason to suppose it was
really an American name imposed retroactively on his ancestor by some
Jewish immigrant in the USA who couldn't think of a better name.

Michael Bernet, New York