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Malynka and Juszkowy Grod #poland

Zalman Usiskin
 

I would be interested in learning about any people who came >from
either of two very small places, Malynka and Juszkowy Grod, quite
near Bialystok. Malynka is halfway between Michalowo and Zabludow.
(All the "l"s in these three places are written with a slash and
pronounced like "w".) Juszkowy Grod is 10 km southeast of Michalowo.
For most of the 19th century, these places may have been no more than
landed estates. Both Malynka and Juszkowy Grod exist today and can
be found on maps of Poland.

Here is the reason for my interest: My maternal grandfather's
parents were Libby (Leiba) GARBER [b. c1840, d. 1916, Chicago] and
Avrohom Yitzchak (Avromch'k) CUKIERMAN(sp?) [b. c1825?, d. c1900?].
Libby's father Velvel (also called Wolf and Zev) was an innkeeper in
Malynka. It is not clear that Velvel ever took a last name, for one
child took the last name ECHT, the other children took the last name
GARBER, and his descendants all called him "Velvel MARINKER", after
Malynka. Some of Avromch'k's children were born in Juszkowy Grod;
others were born in Grodek. His children took the last names
ZUKERMAN, ZUCKERMAN, or CHUKERMAN.

I have an extensive tree of the descendants of Velvel and might be
able to connect with any others >from these two small places or their
environs.

Zalman Usiskin
Winnetka, IL, USA


BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland Malynka and Juszkowy Grod #poland

Zalman Usiskin
 

I would be interested in learning about any people who came >from
either of two very small places, Malynka and Juszkowy Grod, quite
near Bialystok. Malynka is halfway between Michalowo and Zabludow.
(All the "l"s in these three places are written with a slash and
pronounced like "w".) Juszkowy Grod is 10 km southeast of Michalowo.
For most of the 19th century, these places may have been no more than
landed estates. Both Malynka and Juszkowy Grod exist today and can
be found on maps of Poland.

Here is the reason for my interest: My maternal grandfather's
parents were Libby (Leiba) GARBER [b. c1840, d. 1916, Chicago] and
Avrohom Yitzchak (Avromch'k) CUKIERMAN(sp?) [b. c1825?, d. c1900?].
Libby's father Velvel (also called Wolf and Zev) was an innkeeper in
Malynka. It is not clear that Velvel ever took a last name, for one
child took the last name ECHT, the other children took the last name
GARBER, and his descendants all called him "Velvel MARINKER", after
Malynka. Some of Avromch'k's children were born in Juszkowy Grod;
others were born in Grodek. His children took the last names
ZUKERMAN, ZUCKERMAN, or CHUKERMAN.

I have an extensive tree of the descendants of Velvel and might be
able to connect with any others >from these two small places or their
environs.

Zalman Usiskin
Winnetka, IL, USA


Adolph Ullman Aid Society #general

Michael Hall <michael@...>
 

Hello,

My great-grandfather was buried in the "Adolph Ullman Aid Society"
section of Beth David Cemetery in Elmont, New York. I've seen "Adolph
Ullman Aid Society" sections in other cemeteries as well. I've been
unable to find out anything about this group.

A web search turns up nothing.

Does anyone have an idea or insight?

Michael Hall
michael@...
New York


Wolochisk/Yachnovich #general

Sy Scheinberg <sscheinberg@...>
 

Can anyone on the list tell me what, if any, realtionship there is
between the two shtetls (?) Wolochisk and Yachnovich. One source
(marriage certificate) lists the former as my father,s birth place,
while another source (ship passenger list) identifies the other.
Sy Scheinberg


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Wolochisk/Yachnovich #general

Sy Scheinberg <sscheinberg@...>
 

Can anyone on the list tell me what, if any, realtionship there is
between the two shtetls (?) Wolochisk and Yachnovich. One source
(marriage certificate) lists the former as my father,s birth place,
while another source (ship passenger list) identifies the other.
Sy Scheinberg


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Adolph Ullman Aid Society #general

Michael Hall <michael@...>
 

Hello,

My great-grandfather was buried in the "Adolph Ullman Aid Society"
section of Beth David Cemetery in Elmont, New York. I've seen "Adolph
Ullman Aid Society" sections in other cemeteries as well. I've been
unable to find out anything about this group.

A web search turns up nothing.

Does anyone have an idea or insight?

Michael Hall
michael@...
New York


Re: Need current email address of member #general

Naidia Woolf <rnwoolf@...>
 

If Cathy Glatt is still a member of this newsgroup, please get in touch
with me. (Or if anyone knows her new email address, please let me know.)

Please be sure to reply privately.

Naidia Woolf
(formerly >from Birmingham, England), now in San Francisco, CA
rnwoolf@...

Researching:
DROZDIASZ, Karczew, Poland/Preston, England
SAFIRSTEIN (or variants), Karczew, Poland/Preston, England
ISAACS (family of Solomon and Sarah nee MORRIS) >from Poland/Birmingham,
England
KUJAWSKI (or variants), Lodz, Poland/Birmingham, England


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Need current email address of member #general

Naidia Woolf <rnwoolf@...>
 

If Cathy Glatt is still a member of this newsgroup, please get in touch
with me. (Or if anyone knows her new email address, please let me know.)

Please be sure to reply privately.

Naidia Woolf
(formerly >from Birmingham, England), now in San Francisco, CA
rnwoolf@...

Researching:
DROZDIASZ, Karczew, Poland/Preston, England
SAFIRSTEIN (or variants), Karczew, Poland/Preston, England
ISAACS (family of Solomon and Sarah nee MORRIS) >from Poland/Birmingham,
England
KUJAWSKI (or variants), Lodz, Poland/Birmingham, England


Re: SULZBACH #germany

Association GenAmi <asso.genami@...>
 

A SULZBACH family was in Frankfurt in 1812 : Abraham (1777 - 1865),
son of Seligmann SULZBACH of Fuerth married Sara BEYFUS.

Micheline GUTMANN asso.genami@...
Site GenAmi : http://asso.genami.free.fr


German SIG #Germany Re: SULZBACH #germany

Association GenAmi <asso.genami@...>
 

A SULZBACH family was in Frankfurt in 1812 : Abraham (1777 - 1865),
son of Seligmann SULZBACH of Fuerth married Sara BEYFUS.

Micheline GUTMANN asso.genami@...
Site GenAmi : http://asso.genami.free.fr


Re: Hesse links page #germany

Carol Baird <sbaird@...>
 

I must also add my congratulations to Judith Goldsmith for:

http://www.well.com/~mareev/genealogy/hesse_links.html

At the Washington DC conference we had discussed creating a Hessian BOF,
but this does whatever that BOF could do and more. We all talk about what
we want, but few ever take up the cause and lead the way. The Hessian
database is wonderful as well but Judith did a real mitzvah for German
genealogists and I, for one, would like to add my thanks.

Carol Davidson Baird Solana Beach, CA sbaird@...

Researching Hessen names: ROTHSCHILD >from Schluechtern, BORNLAENDER from
Hammelburg (Gelnhausen), FRANKENTHAL and LOEWENSTERN >from Alten Lotheim,
MILDENBERG and PLAUT >from Rauschenberg.


German SIG #Germany RE: Hesse links page #germany

Carol Baird <sbaird@...>
 

I must also add my congratulations to Judith Goldsmith for:

http://www.well.com/~mareev/genealogy/hesse_links.html

At the Washington DC conference we had discussed creating a Hessian BOF,
but this does whatever that BOF could do and more. We all talk about what
we want, but few ever take up the cause and lead the way. The Hessian
database is wonderful as well but Judith did a real mitzvah for German
genealogists and I, for one, would like to add my thanks.

Carol Davidson Baird Solana Beach, CA sbaird@...

Researching Hessen names: ROTHSCHILD >from Schluechtern, BORNLAENDER from
Hammelburg (Gelnhausen), FRANKENTHAL and LOEWENSTERN >from Alten Lotheim,
MILDENBERG and PLAUT >from Rauschenberg.


Re: Searching for Moritz and Julius WALLACH and their #germany

Fritz Neubauer
 

Gunther Steinberg schrieb:
I am also looking for relatives of Moritz or Julius WALLACH in Munich ...
The Theresienstadt Memorial Book has an entry for:

WALLACH Luise, born 08 Oct 1875, deported >from Munich/Nuremberg,

let me know if you think you are related to her, with kind regards

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany fritz.neubauer@...


German SIG #Germany Re: Searching for Moritz and Julius WALLACH and their #germany

Fritz Neubauer
 

Gunther Steinberg schrieb:
I am also looking for relatives of Moritz or Julius WALLACH in Munich ...
The Theresienstadt Memorial Book has an entry for:

WALLACH Luise, born 08 Oct 1875, deported >from Munich/Nuremberg,

let me know if you think you are related to her, with kind regards

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany fritz.neubauer@...


Re: french ship isla de france RESOURCE CITE #germany

Joseph Fibel <JFibel@...>
 

Dear Jimmy,
There are two books that apply here. The first is the Morton Allen
Directory.(of European Passenger Steamship Arrivals) This book lists every
passenger ship arrival in NY >from 1890 to 1930 and Philadelphia >from 1904
to 1926. I went through >from 1903 to 1909 and did not find a ship with a
name similar to yours.

The second book is:
Ships of our Ancestors by Michael J Anuta.
This book lists and shows pictures of many (900) of the ships bringing our
ancestors to the U S. Again there is no ship near 1903 with the name you
describe. There are two ships with the name of France.

The first was built and had its first voyage in 1865. It was surplanted
by another ship with the same name in 1912.

There is of course, the very famous Isle de France which was only built in
1926. Is it possible that your relatives came here in 1926 or afterward?
The first voyage of this ship I see was in 1927. All of these were owned
by the French Line.

Unfortunately, this is all the data that I can find and it is not very
helpful. Regards and keep looking.

Joe Fibel New Rochelle, NYTo: "German Jewish SIG"

Tuesday, August 05, 2003 Subject: [gersig] french ship isla de france

Dear Gersig members,
We have a question concerning our family that came >from Alsace, between
1903-19xx. Several of my family SCHMITT / TIEKE were aboard the Isla de
France, the spelling may not be correct.

I am a novice at research, and I have tried Ellis Island with no luck.
Would any members have any sites that may hold ship names from
Germany/France during this time. ............
Jimmy S. and Abraham Tieke Sacramento, Ca callydude@...


German SIG #Germany Re: french ship isla de france RESOURCE CITE #germany

Joseph Fibel <JFibel@...>
 

Dear Jimmy,
There are two books that apply here. The first is the Morton Allen
Directory.(of European Passenger Steamship Arrivals) This book lists every
passenger ship arrival in NY >from 1890 to 1930 and Philadelphia >from 1904
to 1926. I went through >from 1903 to 1909 and did not find a ship with a
name similar to yours.

The second book is:
Ships of our Ancestors by Michael J Anuta.
This book lists and shows pictures of many (900) of the ships bringing our
ancestors to the U S. Again there is no ship near 1903 with the name you
describe. There are two ships with the name of France.

The first was built and had its first voyage in 1865. It was surplanted
by another ship with the same name in 1912.

There is of course, the very famous Isle de France which was only built in
1926. Is it possible that your relatives came here in 1926 or afterward?
The first voyage of this ship I see was in 1927. All of these were owned
by the French Line.

Unfortunately, this is all the data that I can find and it is not very
helpful. Regards and keep looking.

Joe Fibel New Rochelle, NYTo: "German Jewish SIG"

Tuesday, August 05, 2003 Subject: [gersig] french ship isla de france

Dear Gersig members,
We have a question concerning our family that came >from Alsace, between
1903-19xx. Several of my family SCHMITT / TIEKE were aboard the Isla de
France, the spelling may not be correct.

I am a novice at research, and I have tried Ellis Island with no luck.
Would any members have any sites that may hold ship names from
Germany/France during this time. ............
Jimmy S. and Abraham Tieke Sacramento, Ca callydude@...


Re: Was Ira Jewish? #general

Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

In article <140.16af90e2.2c6027a3@...>, <MBernet@...> wrote:

In a message dated 8/2/2003 9:55:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
sallybru@... very gracious acknowledged an unfortunate
misunderstanding, in a previous message
<< Well, I learned something today. I have extracted many Polish and
Lithuanian records for different towns and had never seen the name Ira.
I didn't know it was a Yiddish name or a Hebrew name as various people
have pointed out-or that it was in the Bible.
No, Ira has never been as popular a name among Jews as Isaac or Jacob.
Anyone not fully aware of the genealogy and history of that area can
certainly be excused for not knowing that it was recorded in the areas of
greater Russia (incl Poland and Podolia) as early at 1765.
For some statistics, I tried entering "Ira" in the Global Text Search
of Jewishgen's All Poland Database at
<http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Poland/>. It found
1 entry in the Brest Ghetto Passport Archive
4 in the Index of 1890 and 1891 NY Immigrants >from Austria, Poland and
Galicia (of which 2 were for Ira as a last name)
1 in the JewishGen Yizkor Book Necrology Database (Poland)
2 in the Lwow Ghetto
1 in Borislav-Drohobycz Delinquent Water Bills 1941-1942
5 in Pinkas HaNitzolim II
1 in Czestochowa Forced Laborers
3 in Galician Forced Laborers >from Lviv (but referring to the same person)

and several for burial records in various US states and US State
Department files. Note that the only 19th century records were two
NY Immigrants.

For comparison, "Ida" had 694 total matches excluding the US burials and
US State Department files.

So it appears that although the name Ira did exist in Poland, it was rare
there, and very rare before the 20th century.

Sally's last assumption that Ira "was probably an 'American' version"
is difficult to support. True, there was Ira Gershwin in America, but he
was Jewish. There have been some 19th century non-Jews named Ira who
were born in the USA, notably Ira Remsen, co-inventor of saccharine, and
Ira Frederick Aldridge, a Black actor famous for tragic roles--but he
lived mostly in Europe (and, coincidence? died in Lodz).
Other early American Iras include Ira Allen, 1751-1814, younger brother
of the more famous Ethan Allen and an important figure in the history of
Vermont, and Ira David Sankey, 1840-1908, composer of gospel music.

Robert Israel israel@...
Vancouver, BC, Canada V6T 1Z2


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Was Ira Jewish? #general

Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

In article <140.16af90e2.2c6027a3@...>, <MBernet@...> wrote:

In a message dated 8/2/2003 9:55:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
sallybru@... very gracious acknowledged an unfortunate
misunderstanding, in a previous message
<< Well, I learned something today. I have extracted many Polish and
Lithuanian records for different towns and had never seen the name Ira.
I didn't know it was a Yiddish name or a Hebrew name as various people
have pointed out-or that it was in the Bible.
No, Ira has never been as popular a name among Jews as Isaac or Jacob.
Anyone not fully aware of the genealogy and history of that area can
certainly be excused for not knowing that it was recorded in the areas of
greater Russia (incl Poland and Podolia) as early at 1765.
For some statistics, I tried entering "Ira" in the Global Text Search
of Jewishgen's All Poland Database at
<http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Poland/>. It found
1 entry in the Brest Ghetto Passport Archive
4 in the Index of 1890 and 1891 NY Immigrants >from Austria, Poland and
Galicia (of which 2 were for Ira as a last name)
1 in the JewishGen Yizkor Book Necrology Database (Poland)
2 in the Lwow Ghetto
1 in Borislav-Drohobycz Delinquent Water Bills 1941-1942
5 in Pinkas HaNitzolim II
1 in Czestochowa Forced Laborers
3 in Galician Forced Laborers >from Lviv (but referring to the same person)

and several for burial records in various US states and US State
Department files. Note that the only 19th century records were two
NY Immigrants.

For comparison, "Ida" had 694 total matches excluding the US burials and
US State Department files.

So it appears that although the name Ira did exist in Poland, it was rare
there, and very rare before the 20th century.

Sally's last assumption that Ira "was probably an 'American' version"
is difficult to support. True, there was Ira Gershwin in America, but he
was Jewish. There have been some 19th century non-Jews named Ira who
were born in the USA, notably Ira Remsen, co-inventor of saccharine, and
Ira Frederick Aldridge, a Black actor famous for tragic roles--but he
lived mostly in Europe (and, coincidence? died in Lodz).
Other early American Iras include Ira Allen, 1751-1814, younger brother
of the more famous Ethan Allen and an important figure in the history of
Vermont, and Ira David Sankey, 1840-1908, composer of gospel music.

Robert Israel israel@...
Vancouver, BC, Canada V6T 1Z2


Re: Was Ira Jewish? #general

Elise Teitelbaum <eliseteitelbaum@...>
 

b's'd
Shalom everyone,
I for one am enjoying this thread, especially because my brother, of
blessed memory, was named "Joseph Ira".

Does anyone remember a Yosef Yira Hecht on the radio? My personal theory
is that the name "Ira" is really pronounced "Yira", which would be the
Hebrew word for "fear", as in "fear of heaven".

Elise Teitelbaum
eliseteitelbaum@...

I'm enjoying all this attention, but I also think we've discussed my
name enough. Given its rarity, I don't think too many people are that
fascinated with it, although the general genealogical principles certainly
apply.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Was Ira Jewish? #general

Elise Teitelbaum <eliseteitelbaum@...>
 

b's'd
Shalom everyone,
I for one am enjoying this thread, especially because my brother, of
blessed memory, was named "Joseph Ira".

Does anyone remember a Yosef Yira Hecht on the radio? My personal theory
is that the name "Ira" is really pronounced "Yira", which would be the
Hebrew word for "fear", as in "fear of heaven".

Elise Teitelbaum
eliseteitelbaum@...

I'm enjoying all this attention, but I also think we've discussed my
name enough. Given its rarity, I don't think too many people are that
fascinated with it, although the general genealogical principles certainly
apply.