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Re: The Central Zionist Archives #general

SharonV@...
 

Michael Bernet wrote:

-----Original =Can you give us a url for the Zionist
Archives so that we can learn about
the materials available? And a general e-mail address
for sending queries?
I think that would be elpful to many.

Michael Bernet, New York
-------------------------------------


Dear Genners,

Here is the url for the Central Zionist Archives.
http://www.wzo.org.il/cza/Default.htm

Our(general)e-mail address for sending queries is:
sharonv@...

Best wishes!

Sharon Visser-CZA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: The Central Zionist Archives #general

SharonV@...
 

Michael Bernet wrote:

-----Original =Can you give us a url for the Zionist
Archives so that we can learn about
the materials available? And a general e-mail address
for sending queries?
I think that would be elpful to many.

Michael Bernet, New York
-------------------------------------


Dear Genners,

Here is the url for the Central Zionist Archives.
http://www.wzo.org.il/cza/Default.htm

Our(general)e-mail address for sending queries is:
sharonv@...

Best wishes!

Sharon Visser-CZA


Re: Woman's mother's maiden name given as her own? #general

Sally M. Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

I have seen this in Russian records, where it is
presumed that there was no civil marriage. If
the parents did not (perhaps could not, depending on
variations in the laws restricting the Jews) marry
civilly but had a religious marriage. The children of
such a marriage were considered illigitimate by the
civil authority, although not by the Jews, so they used
the mother's maiden name in later records as
the child's surname..

It is also possible that the married couple used the
wife's family name, I have heard that this was sometimes
done. Perhaps the wife's parents were important in
the community and the husband 'married into' the
famous family.

Of course it is also possible that there was some
mixup and the record was wrong,

Sally Bruckheimer
Harrison, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Woman's mother's maiden name given as her own? #general

Sally M. Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

I have seen this in Russian records, where it is
presumed that there was no civil marriage. If
the parents did not (perhaps could not, depending on
variations in the laws restricting the Jews) marry
civilly but had a religious marriage. The children of
such a marriage were considered illigitimate by the
civil authority, although not by the Jews, so they used
the mother's maiden name in later records as
the child's surname..

It is also possible that the married couple used the
wife's family name, I have heard that this was sometimes
done. Perhaps the wife's parents were important in
the community and the husband 'married into' the
famous family.

Of course it is also possible that there was some
mixup and the record was wrong,

Sally Bruckheimer
Harrison, NY


Good Manners #general

Ury Link
 

Dear Genners,

I know it is not the first time that you hear about this
problem but I must repeat it again. Today I translated
for Manuella a document >from the VieuwMate and send it ,
after 30 minutes I get a message beck with her thanks,
few words with appreciation. This I called good manners.
But how much time I do the same and send translation
with no response ,not after a day or a week but never
never. it is only a few second work to replay the
same message with one word, no more is necessary ,
only the word Thanks.

Most of the genners know what are good manners and
give a response, but for the few that don't do it
is this letter.

Pleas give a response to a work that you asked to
do and a member of the JewishGen take the time to
help you with this.

We all are volunteers and do this work with pleasure,
pleas don't disappointed us.

Best regards
Ury Link
Amsterdam
Holland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Good Manners #general

Ury Link
 

Dear Genners,

I know it is not the first time that you hear about this
problem but I must repeat it again. Today I translated
for Manuella a document >from the VieuwMate and send it ,
after 30 minutes I get a message beck with her thanks,
few words with appreciation. This I called good manners.
But how much time I do the same and send translation
with no response ,not after a day or a week but never
never. it is only a few second work to replay the
same message with one word, no more is necessary ,
only the word Thanks.

Most of the genners know what are good manners and
give a response, but for the few that don't do it
is this letter.

Pleas give a response to a work that you asked to
do and a member of the JewishGen take the time to
help you with this.

We all are volunteers and do this work with pleasure,
pleas don't disappointed us.

Best regards
Ury Link
Amsterdam
Holland


auschwitz forced laborers database (jewishgen) #general

Ramon Pop <pop00020@...>
 

Hello,

On Jewishgen there's a holocaust database that you
probably all know. It includes a database of auschwitz
forced laborers, based on forms filed in the United
States Holocaust Memorial Museum. I read that
it's possible to order a copy.

I e-mailed the museum twice to get the form of my
great-uncle Arthur Wolf Pop, but, unfortunately,
no reactions.

Does anyone have an idea how to reach them? Maybe I e-
maild to the wrong museum section?

Thanks in advance,
Ramon Pop, Amsterdam


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen auschwitz forced laborers database (jewishgen) #general

Ramon Pop <pop00020@...>
 

Hello,

On Jewishgen there's a holocaust database that you
probably all know. It includes a database of auschwitz
forced laborers, based on forms filed in the United
States Holocaust Memorial Museum. I read that
it's possible to order a copy.

I e-mailed the museum twice to get the form of my
great-uncle Arthur Wolf Pop, but, unfortunately,
no reactions.

Does anyone have an idea how to reach them? Maybe I e-
maild to the wrong museum section?

Thanks in advance,
Ramon Pop, Amsterdam


Re: ukraine digest: August 13, 2003 #ukraine

rosinskyb
 

bs'd
Can someone tell me if the format for offering to share BOF research costs
is to just send surname and city to the list or is there so more
formal/organized thing going on?

Bernard


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: ukraine digest: August 13, 2003 #ukraine

rosinskyb
 

bs'd
Can someone tell me if the format for offering to share BOF research costs
is to just send surname and city to the list or is there so more
formal/organized thing going on?

Bernard


Please translate Russian passport on viewmate(VM2738). #general

arbe <docarbe@...>
 

Please translate Russian passport on viewmate.
please respond personally

vm2738

Abraham Cohen
Texas usa


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Please translate Russian passport on viewmate(VM2738). #general

arbe <docarbe@...>
 

Please translate Russian passport on viewmate.
please respond personally

vm2738

Abraham Cohen
Texas usa


Re: Need Help with very puzzling EIDB Discovery #general

Dolph Klein <kledolph@...>
 

Cindy,

Passenger manifests were prepared in advance to the
sailing schedule and used to record the arrival
of each passenger at the gangway. Look carefully
and you will see a thin line drawn through Jankel's
first manifest. He did not show up and sailed instead
on the SS Barcelona eight days later. The nice feature
about the EIDB database unlike NARA's, is that all
names are indexed whether or not the passenger was
on board. Occasionally, you will see the annotation,
N.O.B., written in addition to or absence of the
cross-out line.

I had a funny experience when I saw a line drawn
through my cousin's manifest and thought she had
missed the ship. It turned out that the line
was actually a scratch on the microfilm.

Dolph Klein
Chapel Hill, NC

From: Cindy Gallard <cmgcmg@...>

Can anyone offer me any insights into the following
very puzzling information I discovered on EIDB?

I found a Jankel Rothblat and a Jankel Rotblatt both of
whom arrived in NY eight days apart on August 25, 1906
aboard the SS Americk and September 2, 1906 aboard the
SS Barcelona. Both were 28 years old,the occupation of
both was listed as joiner, both were married, both were
joining their brother-in-law Jankel Berliner at the same
address and both were >from Pultusk. If they were the
same person and he was not allowed entry the first time
there is no way he could have gone all the way back
to Hamburg and returned in eight days. How likely could
it be that they were twins with the same given name?


Definition of BOF #ukraine

Carol Lieberman <carollieberman@...>
 

I confess I must have missed something in the reading. What is BOF? I am
also extremely interested in Vasilkov, if a new area of interest is being
formed. My two names of interest are MESTECHKIN ( or Mistachkin) and
SCHERBAKOV.

Carol Lieberman

carollieberman@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Need Help with very puzzling EIDB Discovery #general

Dolph Klein <kledolph@...>
 

Cindy,

Passenger manifests were prepared in advance to the
sailing schedule and used to record the arrival
of each passenger at the gangway. Look carefully
and you will see a thin line drawn through Jankel's
first manifest. He did not show up and sailed instead
on the SS Barcelona eight days later. The nice feature
about the EIDB database unlike NARA's, is that all
names are indexed whether or not the passenger was
on board. Occasionally, you will see the annotation,
N.O.B., written in addition to or absence of the
cross-out line.

I had a funny experience when I saw a line drawn
through my cousin's manifest and thought she had
missed the ship. It turned out that the line
was actually a scratch on the microfilm.

Dolph Klein
Chapel Hill, NC

From: Cindy Gallard <cmgcmg@...>

Can anyone offer me any insights into the following
very puzzling information I discovered on EIDB?

I found a Jankel Rothblat and a Jankel Rotblatt both of
whom arrived in NY eight days apart on August 25, 1906
aboard the SS Americk and September 2, 1906 aboard the
SS Barcelona. Both were 28 years old,the occupation of
both was listed as joiner, both were married, both were
joining their brother-in-law Jankel Berliner at the same
address and both were >from Pultusk. If they were the
same person and he was not allowed entry the first time
there is no way he could have gone all the way back
to Hamburg and returned in eight days. How likely could
it be that they were twins with the same given name?


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Definition of BOF #ukraine

Carol Lieberman <carollieberman@...>
 

I confess I must have missed something in the reading. What is BOF? I am
also extremely interested in Vasilkov, if a new area of interest is being
formed. My two names of interest are MESTECHKIN ( or Mistachkin) and
SCHERBAKOV.

Carol Lieberman

carollieberman@...


Resources pertaining to children saved from the holocaust by the U.S. #general

Iris Posner
 

For those interested in the history of the only unaccompanied children
rescued >from the Holocaust by the United States (of which there were
about one thousand children -- the "OTC children"), the following new
documentary has been released and other resources are also available to
teachers and researchers:

DCL Productions has released the documentary "Victim & Victor," produced
and directed by David C. Lewis which will be broadcast on WTTW-PBS
Channel 11 Chicago. The 58-minute program will air on Thursday,
September 4th at 8PM. It is the story of entrepreneur and
philanthropist, Manfred Steinfeld, one of the One Thousand Children. For
more information about the video contact: David C. Lewis.
Producer/Director, DCL Productions at email: lewis_nm@...


Websites and books pertaining to the OTC children:

For background information about the OTC rescues and the stories of
individual OTC children go to the website:
http://www.onethousandchildren.org

The most complete and important book containing the history of the OTC
rescues and why American did not save more children is Professor Judith
Baumel's book, Unfulfilled Promise, Denali Press, 1990.

http://barmitzvah.goldwein.net and http://1in1000.goldwein.net
Children will especially be interested in these sites -- the second of
which which was created by the teenage grandson of an OTC child who also
wrote his grandfather's biography which is included with many
illustrations.

Children and others will also be interested to know that the "father of
American rock and roll", Bill Graham, was one of the OTC children and
there is a lot about him on the internet including at:
http://www.billgrahamfoundation.org/bio.html. A good book about him,
including his rescue and childhood is Bill Graham Presents by Bill
Graham and Robert Greenfield, Delta, Dell Books, 1992.

Also the daughter of an OTC child, Fern Schumer Chapman, has written
about her Mom and herself called Motherland, Penguin, 2000, and a
website: http://www.fernschumerchapman.com which also has a study guide.

OTC child Ben Hirsch recounts his experiences as a young man in the U.S.
in his book, Hearing A Different Drummer, Mercer University Press, 2000.
He is an architect who designed the Holocaust Memorial in Atlanta,
Georgia.

You can also read the biography of an OTC child who got the Nobel Prize
for discovering new atomic particles, Jack Steinberger, at:
http://www.nobel.se/physics/laureates/1988/steinberger-autobio.html

The books of poems of OTC child Arthur Weil are listed on websites of
online booksellers.

In Lieu of Flowers, by Louis Maier, Ide House, 1995, describes Dr.
Maier's life in Europe and departure for the U.S.

Shattered Crystals by Mia Kanner, C.I.S. Publishers, 1997, describes the
experiences of the mother of an OTC child and her and her families'
escape to the U.S.

Chapters 8, 10, of The Mezuzah's Foot by Trudi Alexy, Harper Collins,
1994, describes the miraculous escape of two OTC children and their
families >from Europe to the U.S.

The story of OTC child Walter Reed's return to Europe as an adult can be
read (in German) at http://www.gunnet.de/stephani/step_p35.htm

OTC child Ralph Moratz's website can be accessed at
http://www.geocities.com/actor_extra/shoah.html

In early 2004, look for a new book written by Iris Posner and Phil Jason
which will be an anthology of first person accounts of OTC children and
rescuers.

Iris Posner
President
One Thousand Children, Inc. and Archives of the One Thousand Children
contact@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Resources pertaining to children saved from the holocaust by the U.S. #general

Iris Posner
 

For those interested in the history of the only unaccompanied children
rescued >from the Holocaust by the United States (of which there were
about one thousand children -- the "OTC children"), the following new
documentary has been released and other resources are also available to
teachers and researchers:

DCL Productions has released the documentary "Victim & Victor," produced
and directed by David C. Lewis which will be broadcast on WTTW-PBS
Channel 11 Chicago. The 58-minute program will air on Thursday,
September 4th at 8PM. It is the story of entrepreneur and
philanthropist, Manfred Steinfeld, one of the One Thousand Children. For
more information about the video contact: David C. Lewis.
Producer/Director, DCL Productions at email: lewis_nm@...


Websites and books pertaining to the OTC children:

For background information about the OTC rescues and the stories of
individual OTC children go to the website:
http://www.onethousandchildren.org

The most complete and important book containing the history of the OTC
rescues and why American did not save more children is Professor Judith
Baumel's book, Unfulfilled Promise, Denali Press, 1990.

http://barmitzvah.goldwein.net and http://1in1000.goldwein.net
Children will especially be interested in these sites -- the second of
which which was created by the teenage grandson of an OTC child who also
wrote his grandfather's biography which is included with many
illustrations.

Children and others will also be interested to know that the "father of
American rock and roll", Bill Graham, was one of the OTC children and
there is a lot about him on the internet including at:
http://www.billgrahamfoundation.org/bio.html. A good book about him,
including his rescue and childhood is Bill Graham Presents by Bill
Graham and Robert Greenfield, Delta, Dell Books, 1992.

Also the daughter of an OTC child, Fern Schumer Chapman, has written
about her Mom and herself called Motherland, Penguin, 2000, and a
website: http://www.fernschumerchapman.com which also has a study guide.

OTC child Ben Hirsch recounts his experiences as a young man in the U.S.
in his book, Hearing A Different Drummer, Mercer University Press, 2000.
He is an architect who designed the Holocaust Memorial in Atlanta,
Georgia.

You can also read the biography of an OTC child who got the Nobel Prize
for discovering new atomic particles, Jack Steinberger, at:
http://www.nobel.se/physics/laureates/1988/steinberger-autobio.html

The books of poems of OTC child Arthur Weil are listed on websites of
online booksellers.

In Lieu of Flowers, by Louis Maier, Ide House, 1995, describes Dr.
Maier's life in Europe and departure for the U.S.

Shattered Crystals by Mia Kanner, C.I.S. Publishers, 1997, describes the
experiences of the mother of an OTC child and her and her families'
escape to the U.S.

Chapters 8, 10, of The Mezuzah's Foot by Trudi Alexy, Harper Collins,
1994, describes the miraculous escape of two OTC children and their
families >from Europe to the U.S.

The story of OTC child Walter Reed's return to Europe as an adult can be
read (in German) at http://www.gunnet.de/stephani/step_p35.htm

OTC child Ralph Moratz's website can be accessed at
http://www.geocities.com/actor_extra/shoah.html

In early 2004, look for a new book written by Iris Posner and Phil Jason
which will be an anthology of first person accounts of OTC children and
rescuers.

Iris Posner
President
One Thousand Children, Inc. and Archives of the One Thousand Children
contact@...


MIELZINER #general

Elsebeth Paikin <ElsebethPaikin@...>
 

After a search in JewishGen Family Finder on MIELZINER
I found and wrote to researcher #66655 dmielziner@...
(>from 29 Dec 2001).

The e-mail is no longer valid, so I would greatly
appreciate if anyone can help me get in contact
with the person researching MIELZINER.

Best regards

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen MIELZINER #general

Elsebeth Paikin <ElsebethPaikin@...>
 

After a search in JewishGen Family Finder on MIELZINER
I found and wrote to researcher #66655 dmielziner@...
(>from 29 Dec 2001).

The e-mail is no longer valid, so I would greatly
appreciate if anyone can help me get in contact
with the person researching MIELZINER.

Best regards

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately