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Searching: Martin & Anita SCHICK; Frank & Marie (nee SCHICK) KLEIN) ; Viktor & Hedwig (nee ADLER) SCHICK #general

Peter Lowe <Peter.Lowe@...>
 

In connection both with my research into the family tree of the ADLERs of
Amschelberg (Kosova Hora) and into the heirs of dormant Swiss Bank
accounts in the names of Hedwig SCHICK and Helene SGALITZER (nee ADLER),
I am keen to contact descendants of Viktor and Hedwig (nee ADLER) SCHICK.

I believe Viktor SCHICK was a bank manager in Prague, married to Hedwig
ADLER, daughter of Wilhelm ADLER & Laura BENEDIKT. Their children were:
Martin SCHICK, married to Anita: Lived in LOng Island, NY in the 1990s,
with children Victor & Barbara SCHICK
Marie KLEIN (nee SCHICK), married to Frank KLEIN, with children Ernest &
Ann KLEIN.

Any information on Dr. Max & Helene (nee ADLER) SGALITZER would be of
great value.

Please can anyone contact me directly if they can help to put me in
contact with descendants or anyone who knows of this family.

Thank you

Peter Lowe
Hertford, England
Email: Peter.Lowe@Bigfoot.Com
Web Site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pnlowe/index.htm
Researching: LOEWENHEIM, WANGENHEIM, DEWITZ, JERUSALEM, BEYKOVSKY, HERZ &
KROHN (West & East Prussia), JARUSLAWSKY, ADLER & EISNER (Bohemia)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: Martin & Anita SCHICK; Frank & Marie (nee SCHICK) KLEIN) ; Viktor & Hedwig (nee ADLER) SCHICK #general

Peter Lowe <Peter.Lowe@...>
 

In connection both with my research into the family tree of the ADLERs of
Amschelberg (Kosova Hora) and into the heirs of dormant Swiss Bank
accounts in the names of Hedwig SCHICK and Helene SGALITZER (nee ADLER),
I am keen to contact descendants of Viktor and Hedwig (nee ADLER) SCHICK.

I believe Viktor SCHICK was a bank manager in Prague, married to Hedwig
ADLER, daughter of Wilhelm ADLER & Laura BENEDIKT. Their children were:
Martin SCHICK, married to Anita: Lived in LOng Island, NY in the 1990s,
with children Victor & Barbara SCHICK
Marie KLEIN (nee SCHICK), married to Frank KLEIN, with children Ernest &
Ann KLEIN.

Any information on Dr. Max & Helene (nee ADLER) SGALITZER would be of
great value.

Please can anyone contact me directly if they can help to put me in
contact with descendants or anyone who knows of this family.

Thank you

Peter Lowe
Hertford, England
Email: Peter.Lowe@Bigfoot.Com
Web Site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pnlowe/index.htm
Researching: LOEWENHEIM, WANGENHEIM, DEWITZ, JERUSALEM, BEYKOVSKY, HERZ &
KROHN (West & East Prussia), JARUSLAWSKY, ADLER & EISNER (Bohemia)


Boat "Roma" 1927 #general

Merv & Naomi Barnett
 

Hello List

I am looking for information regarding the boat "Roma". I have received
information that my mother arrived in Jaffa, Palestine on 15 December
1927. It departed >from Constanza on 16 November 1927. Is there
anywhere I can see a picture of this vessel, and is it possible to find
a passenger list?

L'shana Tova

Naomi Barnett
Melbourne, Australia

Researching
BARNETT Vilna, Leeds, Rhodesia, Australia
BRZINSKI/ROSE Leeds, Australia
COHEN Manchester, Australia
REIZER, Grodno, Palestine, Israel, New Zealand, Australia, California
ROSE Leeds, Australia
VOLSHTEIN, Zelve (Grodno gubernia), Palestine, New Zealand, Australia


mailto:barnett@netspace.net.au


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Boat "Roma" 1927 #general

Merv & Naomi Barnett
 

Hello List

I am looking for information regarding the boat "Roma". I have received
information that my mother arrived in Jaffa, Palestine on 15 December
1927. It departed >from Constanza on 16 November 1927. Is there
anywhere I can see a picture of this vessel, and is it possible to find
a passenger list?

L'shana Tova

Naomi Barnett
Melbourne, Australia

Researching
BARNETT Vilna, Leeds, Rhodesia, Australia
BRZINSKI/ROSE Leeds, Australia
COHEN Manchester, Australia
REIZER, Grodno, Palestine, Israel, New Zealand, Australia, California
ROSE Leeds, Australia
VOLSHTEIN, Zelve (Grodno gubernia), Palestine, New Zealand, Australia


mailto:barnett@netspace.net.au


Re: marriages of first cousins. #general

Jonathan Goldmacher <jgoldmacher@...>
 

They still could have been first cousins if he were the son of DROZDOWITZ
and she were the daughter of a ROSENBERG nee DROZDOWITZ. That is to say
perhaps your great grandfather's father had a sister who married a
ROSENBERG. In this case both your great grandfather and his wife are
first cousins even though they have different surnames.

Jonathan Goldmacher
New York, NY

I have stumbled across an interesting contradiction, and I
wonder if anyone can shed light onto the situation. It is
my family's belief that my ggparents, Samuel and Sara
DROZDOWITZ, were first cousins. Other evidence confirms
this, including the obituary of her father, whose last name
(DROZDOWITZ) is the same as her husband.

However, we have come across a marriage certificate for
Samuel DROZDOWITZ and Sara ROSENBERG. The dates and places
all match. The only thing which baffles us is her maiden
name. Would it have been a problem in the US in 1891 for
the two spouses to have the same last name? Might she have
given a false name for this reason? Are there other reasons
for this that any of you could think of?

Confused,

Annemarie Jutel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: marriages of first cousins. #general

Jonathan Goldmacher <jgoldmacher@...>
 

They still could have been first cousins if he were the son of DROZDOWITZ
and she were the daughter of a ROSENBERG nee DROZDOWITZ. That is to say
perhaps your great grandfather's father had a sister who married a
ROSENBERG. In this case both your great grandfather and his wife are
first cousins even though they have different surnames.

Jonathan Goldmacher
New York, NY

I have stumbled across an interesting contradiction, and I
wonder if anyone can shed light onto the situation. It is
my family's belief that my ggparents, Samuel and Sara
DROZDOWITZ, were first cousins. Other evidence confirms
this, including the obituary of her father, whose last name
(DROZDOWITZ) is the same as her husband.

However, we have come across a marriage certificate for
Samuel DROZDOWITZ and Sara ROSENBERG. The dates and places
all match. The only thing which baffles us is her maiden
name. Would it have been a problem in the US in 1891 for
the two spouses to have the same last name? Might she have
given a false name for this reason? Are there other reasons
for this that any of you could think of?

Confused,

Annemarie Jutel


GenAmi 25, articles and documents #general

Association GenAmi <asso.genami@...>
 

GenAmi meetings : new sources, methods of research
-Lorraine : sunday 26 October a 5,30 pm
-South Ouest (Bordeaux, Bayonne) and
-Comtat-Venaissin : saturday 15 November a 4 pm
-Eastern Europe : sunday 7 December 5 pm

- GenAmi website has been several times updated.
It is possible to find new documents, especially members
who can send and look at new files.
Among the new documents : lists of Jewish electors in France
in 1744 (Many departements)

-The name of streets and the numbering of houses
of Paris by Mireille Pailleux

-The CERF family of Mittelbronn and the abolition
of the "pro more judaico" serment, by Jean THEODORE
-The descendants of Jacob Moyse CERF of Mittelbronn
by Micheline GUTMANN

-The Jewish upper class and the Bottin Mondain
by Cyril GRANGE

-Belgium : some generalities about Jewish cemeteries
Biography and genealogy of the Belgian general
Louis Isaac Henri Bernheim, by Claude GEUDEVERT and
Micheline GUTMANN

-The tree of the family El HAIK of Tunis,
an original genealogical tree in Hebrew.
Descendants of Yosef El HAIK, by Monique SAVY

-Acquisitions : many books concerning Bayonne and Bordeaux

Reviews of genealogy
Some communications
Questions and answers and
Descendants of Moyse-Gerschon of Gunstett
by Micheline GUTMANN

Micheline GUTMANN, Paris, France
asso.genami@free.fr
Site GenAmi : http://asso.genami.free.fr


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen GenAmi 25, articles and documents #general

Association GenAmi <asso.genami@...>
 

GenAmi meetings : new sources, methods of research
-Lorraine : sunday 26 October a 5,30 pm
-South Ouest (Bordeaux, Bayonne) and
-Comtat-Venaissin : saturday 15 November a 4 pm
-Eastern Europe : sunday 7 December 5 pm

- GenAmi website has been several times updated.
It is possible to find new documents, especially members
who can send and look at new files.
Among the new documents : lists of Jewish electors in France
in 1744 (Many departements)

-The name of streets and the numbering of houses
of Paris by Mireille Pailleux

-The CERF family of Mittelbronn and the abolition
of the "pro more judaico" serment, by Jean THEODORE
-The descendants of Jacob Moyse CERF of Mittelbronn
by Micheline GUTMANN

-The Jewish upper class and the Bottin Mondain
by Cyril GRANGE

-Belgium : some generalities about Jewish cemeteries
Biography and genealogy of the Belgian general
Louis Isaac Henri Bernheim, by Claude GEUDEVERT and
Micheline GUTMANN

-The tree of the family El HAIK of Tunis,
an original genealogical tree in Hebrew.
Descendants of Yosef El HAIK, by Monique SAVY

-Acquisitions : many books concerning Bayonne and Bordeaux

Reviews of genealogy
Some communications
Questions and answers and
Descendants of Moyse-Gerschon of Gunstett
by Micheline GUTMANN

Micheline GUTMANN, Paris, France
asso.genami@free.fr
Site GenAmi : http://asso.genami.free.fr


JGS of Cleveland -- October meeting #general

C&V <proprius@...>
 

The October meeting of the Jewish Genealogy Society of Cleveland
will be held on Wednesday, October 1, at 7:30 p.m. at Menorah Park on
Cedar Rd. Cynthia Turk of the Northeast Ohio Computer Assisted
Genealogy group will speak about the Sanborn Fire Insurance Maps which
can be accessed online.
Guests are welcome to attend the meeting.

Cynthia Spikell
1st V.P.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS of Cleveland -- October meeting #general

C&V <proprius@...>
 

The October meeting of the Jewish Genealogy Society of Cleveland
will be held on Wednesday, October 1, at 7:30 p.m. at Menorah Park on
Cedar Rd. Cynthia Turk of the Northeast Ohio Computer Assisted
Genealogy group will speak about the Sanborn Fire Insurance Maps which
can be accessed online.
Guests are welcome to attend the meeting.

Cynthia Spikell
1st V.P.


Happy Holidays #usa

RecordsAccess@...
 

Dear Fellow Yankee Doodle Genealogists,

On behalf of all Early American SIG members, I
wish you a Happy and Healthy New Year in 5765

Marvin Calo Weinberg Early American Sig Coordinator.


Early American SIG #USA Happy Holidays #usa

RecordsAccess@...
 

Dear Fellow Yankee Doodle Genealogists,

On behalf of all Early American SIG members, I
wish you a Happy and Healthy New Year in 5765

Marvin Calo Weinberg Early American Sig Coordinator.


Success Stories #belarus

Alan Tapper <sabaalan@...>
 

First of all let me wish all of you L'Shana Tovah

Then I want to tell you of two success stories that could not have happened
without all of your help.

The most recent happened in the Ukraine SIG where I sent our a request to
try and find cousins who left Tulchin for Sao Paulo, Brazil. I know that my
grandmother had visited them in the 1930's and that they had visited my
parents in 1947 never to be heard >from until last week.

Thanks to Alberto Seltzer >from Sao Paula who recalled that his mother had a
friend of the same last name that I was looking for. He did some
investigating and not only found the cousin but provided me with e-mail
addresses of her grandchildren, one of whom is very interested in genealogy.
We have been exchanging information for several days now. Most importantly
I now know why the family left Russia ( the Ukraine) and when.

With some additional help we may be able to locate another lost relative. A
woman who was studying at Harvard about three years ago set me a e-mail
because her grand father was ELI BURDMAN >from Tulchin and she noticed that I
was looking for BURDMAN family >from Tulchin. Unfortunately I do not have
her address and with this new information I believe that we are indeed
cousins. ELI BURDMAN would be about 94 if he was still alive. He was
living in Tel Aviv.

The second success story came about because someone again saw that I was
researching the Mendelovich family >from Byten. He was also researching a
family with a different spelling, Mendelevitch. His history went back to
1650 based on information told to his great uncle before he left Byten in
1901. The family history was told to him by my wife's great great
grandfather who had been the family scribe.

The year 1650 is a strange coincidence because I was talking with someone
who's wife was a direct descendant of the Cardoza family >from Spain and
their history seems to start in 1650. I forgot to mention that the
Mendelovich family had changed their name in 1771 when they moved to Byten.
It had been Mendoza.

Anyway, I want to wish you all a healthy and Happy New Year and hope some of
you have as much succes in the coming year as I did in this year.

Al Tapper
Fairfax, VA.

Searching:
NEMIROVSKY >from Lipovets,
TAPPER >from Snitkov
BURDMAN, DUCKLER and STUCKLEMAN >from Tulchin
MENDOZA >from Kobryn
MENDELEWICZ, MENDELOVICH, MENDELOVITCH >from Byten
HOCHBERG >from Iasi
GORMAN >from Baronovich


looking for family #belarus

Shirley Hager <shirleyhager@...>
 

Grodna-Amdur/Amdor /Indura family names
Bund--Bablansky-Farb- Meyerwitz-Friedman


Belarus SIG #Belarus Success Stories #belarus

Alan Tapper <sabaalan@...>
 

First of all let me wish all of you L'Shana Tovah

Then I want to tell you of two success stories that could not have happened
without all of your help.

The most recent happened in the Ukraine SIG where I sent our a request to
try and find cousins who left Tulchin for Sao Paulo, Brazil. I know that my
grandmother had visited them in the 1930's and that they had visited my
parents in 1947 never to be heard >from until last week.

Thanks to Alberto Seltzer >from Sao Paula who recalled that his mother had a
friend of the same last name that I was looking for. He did some
investigating and not only found the cousin but provided me with e-mail
addresses of her grandchildren, one of whom is very interested in genealogy.
We have been exchanging information for several days now. Most importantly
I now know why the family left Russia ( the Ukraine) and when.

With some additional help we may be able to locate another lost relative. A
woman who was studying at Harvard about three years ago set me a e-mail
because her grand father was ELI BURDMAN >from Tulchin and she noticed that I
was looking for BURDMAN family >from Tulchin. Unfortunately I do not have
her address and with this new information I believe that we are indeed
cousins. ELI BURDMAN would be about 94 if he was still alive. He was
living in Tel Aviv.

The second success story came about because someone again saw that I was
researching the Mendelovich family >from Byten. He was also researching a
family with a different spelling, Mendelevitch. His history went back to
1650 based on information told to his great uncle before he left Byten in
1901. The family history was told to him by my wife's great great
grandfather who had been the family scribe.

The year 1650 is a strange coincidence because I was talking with someone
who's wife was a direct descendant of the Cardoza family >from Spain and
their history seems to start in 1650. I forgot to mention that the
Mendelovich family had changed their name in 1771 when they moved to Byten.
It had been Mendoza.

Anyway, I want to wish you all a healthy and Happy New Year and hope some of
you have as much succes in the coming year as I did in this year.

Al Tapper
Fairfax, VA.

Searching:
NEMIROVSKY >from Lipovets,
TAPPER >from Snitkov
BURDMAN, DUCKLER and STUCKLEMAN >from Tulchin
MENDOZA >from Kobryn
MENDELEWICZ, MENDELOVICH, MENDELOVITCH >from Byten
HOCHBERG >from Iasi
GORMAN >from Baronovich


Belarus SIG #Belarus looking for family #belarus

Shirley Hager <shirleyhager@...>
 

Grodna-Amdur/Amdor /Indura family names
Bund--Bablansky-Farb- Meyerwitz-Friedman


Bryna GLUCKSTEIN #general

Sid Greenberg <sid.greenberg@...>
 

Dear Genners:

I had posted an inquiry on September 21/03, about Bryna Gluckstein and
family.

Shortly afterwards, I had two viruses enter my computer.

After it was cleaned, there were several incoming messages that had bounced.

If anyone replied to me about Bryna Gluckstein, please resend your message.

Thank you.

Sid Greenberg # 45041
sid.greenberg@sympatico.ca

GLUCKSTEIN, BERMAN, NAMOVITZ- ALL SPELLINGS
GRINBLAT, GREENBLAT, GREENBERG, WAGMAN, FINEGOLD


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Bryna GLUCKSTEIN #general

Sid Greenberg <sid.greenberg@...>
 

Dear Genners:

I had posted an inquiry on September 21/03, about Bryna Gluckstein and
family.

Shortly afterwards, I had two viruses enter my computer.

After it was cleaned, there were several incoming messages that had bounced.

If anyone replied to me about Bryna Gluckstein, please resend your message.

Thank you.

Sid Greenberg # 45041
sid.greenberg@sympatico.ca

GLUCKSTEIN, BERMAN, NAMOVITZ- ALL SPELLINGS
GRINBLAT, GREENBLAT, GREENBERG, WAGMAN, FINEGOLD


Re: Publishing on line - does it go away? #general

Andrew Blumberg <andrew.blumberg@...>
 

Google will obey a no archive meta tag. So, if your site contains the meta
tag < meta name="robots" content="noarchive" > then Google will show the
site in its index but it will not store a copy of the site in its cache.
See www.google.com/webmasters/3.html for more information. I believe that
this is a web standard, however indexes and directories are not obligated
to obey all of these types of web site tags.

Regards,

Andrew Blumberg

< barrychernick@juno.com > wrote

I have read the postings on this topic with interest, as I am getting
ready to "publish" on the web. I respect all the opinions I have read
but I would like to add one caution. Anything you publish on the web is
in the public domain. You essentially loose control over it. Anyone can
copy what you have published. The code used to generate the page can be
copied as well as the pictures. Google has an Images search section and
you might be surprised (or maybe not) on what can be found there, new,
old and extinct web site pictures.
One point to make to the Genners who say they remove info when
asked - it may be too late. Web pages search engines may have already
stored your data before you removed it. Take a look at
http://web.archive.org/collections/web/advanced.html. I recently found a
web site in this archive that has not been on the Internet for many
years. It had a family picture I had been looking for since 2001- the
picture and all the family genealogy was still intact - a great find for
me. But if you think your web site is going away when you take it down
it just might not.
I hope someone who knows a lot more about this subject can offer
comments about what I have said - most of which comes >from recent
experience rater than an educated knowledge of the subject.
Barry Chernick
Bellevue, WA
MODERATOR NOTE: This thread is veering away >from genealogy. Only
genealogy relevant messages will be posted.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Publishing on line - does it go away? #general

Andrew Blumberg <andrew.blumberg@...>
 

Google will obey a no archive meta tag. So, if your site contains the meta
tag < meta name="robots" content="noarchive" > then Google will show the
site in its index but it will not store a copy of the site in its cache.
See www.google.com/webmasters/3.html for more information. I believe that
this is a web standard, however indexes and directories are not obligated
to obey all of these types of web site tags.

Regards,

Andrew Blumberg

< barrychernick@juno.com > wrote

I have read the postings on this topic with interest, as I am getting
ready to "publish" on the web. I respect all the opinions I have read
but I would like to add one caution. Anything you publish on the web is
in the public domain. You essentially loose control over it. Anyone can
copy what you have published. The code used to generate the page can be
copied as well as the pictures. Google has an Images search section and
you might be surprised (or maybe not) on what can be found there, new,
old and extinct web site pictures.
One point to make to the Genners who say they remove info when
asked - it may be too late. Web pages search engines may have already
stored your data before you removed it. Take a look at
http://web.archive.org/collections/web/advanced.html. I recently found a
web site in this archive that has not been on the Internet for many
years. It had a family picture I had been looking for since 2001- the
picture and all the family genealogy was still intact - a great find for
me. But if you think your web site is going away when you take it down
it just might not.
I hope someone who knows a lot more about this subject can offer
comments about what I have said - most of which comes >from recent
experience rater than an educated knowledge of the subject.
Barry Chernick
Bellevue, WA
MODERATOR NOTE: This thread is veering away >from genealogy. Only
genealogy relevant messages will be posted.