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SITE CITE - early passenger ships to America - Transcribers Guild #usa

Edward Frank <edlfrank@...>
 

This may be old news; if it is I apologize for wasting everyone's time.
There is a web site that lists the passengers on immigrant ships,
including those arriving in the US prior to 1850. There are seven "tabs"
on the home page.

Under "PASSENGERS" there are listed six "Volumes", "German departures",
"NY Arrivals", "Last updates" In the "volumes", you find the same years,
but different ships and lists, in each.

The volumes are arranged by year, so that if you know the year your
ancestor arrived, you can look for that year in each volume.

The names of the ships are listed under each year. Make sure that you
explore the other six "tabs."

The volumes make it eash to find people. You can look by, Port of
Departure, Port of Arrival (New Orleans, Baltimore, NYC, etc.),
Captain's Names, Surnames of Captains AND PASSENGERS. This last one gives
all ships that the surname was found on. For common names, such as FRANK,
there are a lot of ships. WARNING: Remember that the spelling of
surnames cannot be checked by SOUNDEX.

A caveat: The entries are by volunteers who were doing there own
research.

The entries are random by ship; a person may list a bunch of ships for a
given year but only those leaving Liverpool, for instance. The quality of
each list varies as does the information that they contain. BUT, if you
are looking for 2 Germans who arrived in 1839 and 1845, respectively, as I
am, "Germans to America" only starts in 1850. I haven't found anyone yet,
but I think that it is a worthwhile place for our SIG members to look, if
all else has failed.

They state that they have 5000 ships and 1/2 a million passengers listed.

http://immigrantships.net

Is the name of the site for the Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild.

An example:
The ship BAYARD >from Havre, France to NY in Sep 1828 lists many passengers
from "BADDEN" and "BARDEN". I believe the transcriber either didn't think
that the preparer of the list meant BADEN, or that the original preparer
wrote like me.

I would appreciate hearing >from anyone who's helped by this. Happy hunting!

Ed Frank Sun City Center, FL edlfrank@msn.com


Early American SIG #USA SITE CITE - early passenger ships to America - Transcribers Guild #usa

Edward Frank <edlfrank@...>
 

This may be old news; if it is I apologize for wasting everyone's time.
There is a web site that lists the passengers on immigrant ships,
including those arriving in the US prior to 1850. There are seven "tabs"
on the home page.

Under "PASSENGERS" there are listed six "Volumes", "German departures",
"NY Arrivals", "Last updates" In the "volumes", you find the same years,
but different ships and lists, in each.

The volumes are arranged by year, so that if you know the year your
ancestor arrived, you can look for that year in each volume.

The names of the ships are listed under each year. Make sure that you
explore the other six "tabs."

The volumes make it eash to find people. You can look by, Port of
Departure, Port of Arrival (New Orleans, Baltimore, NYC, etc.),
Captain's Names, Surnames of Captains AND PASSENGERS. This last one gives
all ships that the surname was found on. For common names, such as FRANK,
there are a lot of ships. WARNING: Remember that the spelling of
surnames cannot be checked by SOUNDEX.

A caveat: The entries are by volunteers who were doing there own
research.

The entries are random by ship; a person may list a bunch of ships for a
given year but only those leaving Liverpool, for instance. The quality of
each list varies as does the information that they contain. BUT, if you
are looking for 2 Germans who arrived in 1839 and 1845, respectively, as I
am, "Germans to America" only starts in 1850. I haven't found anyone yet,
but I think that it is a worthwhile place for our SIG members to look, if
all else has failed.

They state that they have 5000 ships and 1/2 a million passengers listed.

http://immigrantships.net

Is the name of the site for the Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild.

An example:
The ship BAYARD >from Havre, France to NY in Sep 1828 lists many passengers
from "BADDEN" and "BARDEN". I believe the transcriber either didn't think
that the preparer of the list meant BADEN, or that the original preparer
wrote like me.

I would appreciate hearing >from anyone who's helped by this. Happy hunting!

Ed Frank Sun City Center, FL edlfrank@msn.com


Tauber Report - October 3, 2003 #rabbinic

Larry Tauber <Ltauber@...>
 

Dear RavSiggers:

A roundup of recent genealogical information >from the Jewish Press's
Machberes Column:

1. August 29, 2003 - Mentions the Spinka Rebbe, R. Yissochor Dov
Berish HOROWITZ, son of R. Shmuel Zvi HOROWITZ (1921-1997), son of
R. Avrohom Abish HOROWITZ (1897-1944), son-in-law of R. Yitzchak
Isaac WEISS (1875-1944).

2. September 19, 2003 - Mentions R. Dovid Zvi Shlomo Naftali
BIDERMAN, Lelover Rebbe in Boro Park [son-in-law of R. Avrohom
Yitzchak COHEN (1914-1996)], son of R. Alter Elazar Menachem
BIDERMAN, son of R. Moshe Mordechai BIDERMAN (1904-1987).

3. October 3, 2003 - Mentions R. Yitzchok Meir FLITENSTEIN, grandson
of R. Avrohom Yehoshua HESCHEL (1888-1969), son of R. Yitzchok Meir
HESCHEL (1861-1935), son of R. Avrohom Yehoshua HESCHEL (1832-1880),
son of R. Meshulem Zusia HESCHEL (1832-1863), son of R. Yitzchok
Meir HESCHEL (1813-1863), son of R. Avrohom Yehoshua HESCHEL
(1748-1825), known as the Apter Rebbe. The ancestry of the Apter
Rebbe and many of his descendants are listed in The Unbroken Chain.

Shabbat Shalom,
Larry Tauber


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Tauber Report - October 3, 2003 #rabbinic

Larry Tauber <Ltauber@...>
 

Dear RavSiggers:

A roundup of recent genealogical information >from the Jewish Press's
Machberes Column:

1. August 29, 2003 - Mentions the Spinka Rebbe, R. Yissochor Dov
Berish HOROWITZ, son of R. Shmuel Zvi HOROWITZ (1921-1997), son of
R. Avrohom Abish HOROWITZ (1897-1944), son-in-law of R. Yitzchak
Isaac WEISS (1875-1944).

2. September 19, 2003 - Mentions R. Dovid Zvi Shlomo Naftali
BIDERMAN, Lelover Rebbe in Boro Park [son-in-law of R. Avrohom
Yitzchak COHEN (1914-1996)], son of R. Alter Elazar Menachem
BIDERMAN, son of R. Moshe Mordechai BIDERMAN (1904-1987).

3. October 3, 2003 - Mentions R. Yitzchok Meir FLITENSTEIN, grandson
of R. Avrohom Yehoshua HESCHEL (1888-1969), son of R. Yitzchok Meir
HESCHEL (1861-1935), son of R. Avrohom Yehoshua HESCHEL (1832-1880),
son of R. Meshulem Zusia HESCHEL (1832-1863), son of R. Yitzchok
Meir HESCHEL (1813-1863), son of R. Avrohom Yehoshua HESCHEL
(1748-1825), known as the Apter Rebbe. The ancestry of the Apter
Rebbe and many of his descendants are listed in The Unbroken Chain.

Shabbat Shalom,
Larry Tauber


ABRAM GOODMAN/ISADORE KRIGSMAN #poland

Susan Tait Porcaro <suetaitporcaro@...>
 

Hello,
This is my first posting to this list. I am researching my husband's
side, but do not know where they came from. Their naturalization papers
listed Poland, but that's pretty vague! They were:

Isador Krigsman - born January 1868 in Poland (?) married Yetta Goodman
about 1893, lived in Boston, Mass. Their son Samuel Philip Krigsman is
my husband's grandfather.

Abram Goodman - father of Yetta, born about 1853 in Poland, wife name
Lillian (NLN) lived in Boston - listed in 1900 census

Any info or advice is greatly appreciated. I just don't know where to go
with these people. Thank you

Sue Tait Porcaro
Windsor, CT

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


JRI Poland #Poland ABRAM GOODMAN/ISADORE KRIGSMAN #poland

Susan Tait Porcaro <suetaitporcaro@...>
 

Hello,
This is my first posting to this list. I am researching my husband's
side, but do not know where they came from. Their naturalization papers
listed Poland, but that's pretty vague! They were:

Isador Krigsman - born January 1868 in Poland (?) married Yetta Goodman
about 1893, lived in Boston, Mass. Their son Samuel Philip Krigsman is
my husband's grandfather.

Abram Goodman - father of Yetta, born about 1853 in Poland, wife name
Lillian (NLN) lived in Boston - listed in 1900 census

Any info or advice is greatly appreciated. I just don't know where to go
with these people. Thank you

Sue Tait Porcaro
Windsor, CT

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


ZUCKERMAN / REINHARTZ in Makow Mazowiecki #poland

Eden Joachim <esjoachim@...>
 

I have (inadvertently) acquired the birth record for Nachuma ZUCKERMAN,
daughter of Shmuel Gershon ZUCKERMAN and Esther Rivka REINHARTZ of Makow
Mazowiecki Poland. The event occurred in October 1901.

If this record is pertinent to your research, please contact me privately,
so that I may forward it to you.

Thanks,
Eden Joachim
Pomona, New York
esjoachim@optonline.net


JRI Poland #Poland ZUCKERMAN / REINHARTZ in Makow Mazowiecki #poland

Eden Joachim <esjoachim@...>
 

I have (inadvertently) acquired the birth record for Nachuma ZUCKERMAN,
daughter of Shmuel Gershon ZUCKERMAN and Esther Rivka REINHARTZ of Makow
Mazowiecki Poland. The event occurred in October 1901.

If this record is pertinent to your research, please contact me privately,
so that I may forward it to you.

Thanks,
Eden Joachim
Pomona, New York
esjoachim@optonline.net


GREENBAUM and ACKEREISEN families, Warsaw #general

RM Hoffman <rmhoffman@...>
 

Sarah ACKEREISEN and Isaac GREENBAUM (GRUENBAUM), married about 1885. Had
a dairy store at #17 or #19 Starego Miasto, Warsaw. Any information about
them or their families will be appreciated. E-mail reply to
RMHoffman@aol.com.

RM Hoffman


Re: Clandestine Immigration to Israel, May-June 1948 #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 10/1/2003 7:53:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
jerry.schneider@verizon.net writes:

<<
I am looking for the name of one of the "clandestine immigration" ships
that brought people >from Europe to Israel in the months prior to its
Independence. In particular, I am looking for a ship whose name sounds
something like "Nachshon Kaftelle". The ship was intercepted outside
Haifa by British forces and its passengers were sent to internment camps
in Cyprus.

. . . . I am looking for the ship and especially a passenger list. Any
other
information about this journey, where I might look for additional
information, or offices or organizations that should be contacted would
also be greatly appreciated. >>

==I doubt there was a passenger list and if there was, I doubt that all
the names on it would have been genuine.

==I suggest you write to the Immigration Museum in Haifa, and to the
Jewish Agency in Jerusalem for information about the ship, ots fate and
its passenger. The Jewish Agency (I think it's POB 92, Jerusalem) has
pretty accurate records of all clandestine immigrants. Yoiu can google for
the addresses, or look them up in jewishgen archives.

Michael Bernet, New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen GREENBAUM and ACKEREISEN families, Warsaw #general

RM Hoffman <rmhoffman@...>
 

Sarah ACKEREISEN and Isaac GREENBAUM (GRUENBAUM), married about 1885. Had
a dairy store at #17 or #19 Starego Miasto, Warsaw. Any information about
them or their families will be appreciated. E-mail reply to
RMHoffman@aol.com.

RM Hoffman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Clandestine Immigration to Israel, May-June 1948 #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 10/1/2003 7:53:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
jerry.schneider@verizon.net writes:

<<
I am looking for the name of one of the "clandestine immigration" ships
that brought people >from Europe to Israel in the months prior to its
Independence. In particular, I am looking for a ship whose name sounds
something like "Nachshon Kaftelle". The ship was intercepted outside
Haifa by British forces and its passengers were sent to internment camps
in Cyprus.

. . . . I am looking for the ship and especially a passenger list. Any
other
information about this journey, where I might look for additional
information, or offices or organizations that should be contacted would
also be greatly appreciated. >>

==I doubt there was a passenger list and if there was, I doubt that all
the names on it would have been genuine.

==I suggest you write to the Immigration Museum in Haifa, and to the
Jewish Agency in Jerusalem for information about the ship, ots fate and
its passenger. The Jewish Agency (I think it's POB 92, Jerusalem) has
pretty accurate records of all clandestine immigrants. Yoiu can google for
the addresses, or look them up in jewishgen archives.

Michael Bernet, New York


Head of Household #general

Joel Weintraub <jweintraub@...>
 

A question was raised about "Head of Household" for the 1910 census. I
checked the 1910 census enumerator instructions at:
http://www.ipums.umn.edu/usa/voliii/inst1910.html
and could not find specific instructions as to which family member was
picked as the "Head" of the family. Perhaps the one that paid the rent?
...but I've seen strange things on the census sheets including a designated
"Head" of family of a list of 18 bodies in a morgue (1920, San Francisco,
ED 258 Sheet 2B). Why the enumerator listed these people whose residence
when they were alive on Census Date (January 1) was obviously not the
morgue (and many of the 18 had already been buried by the enumeration date
of Jan. 5 and some were counted in other EDs) is unclear. Perhaps an
example like dead people voting but in this case providing a basis for
federal representation and funds. Joel Weintraub, Dana Point, CA.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Head of Household #general

Joel Weintraub <jweintraub@...>
 

A question was raised about "Head of Household" for the 1910 census. I
checked the 1910 census enumerator instructions at:
http://www.ipums.umn.edu/usa/voliii/inst1910.html
and could not find specific instructions as to which family member was
picked as the "Head" of the family. Perhaps the one that paid the rent?
...but I've seen strange things on the census sheets including a designated
"Head" of family of a list of 18 bodies in a morgue (1920, San Francisco,
ED 258 Sheet 2B). Why the enumerator listed these people whose residence
when they were alive on Census Date (January 1) was obviously not the
morgue (and many of the 18 had already been buried by the enumeration date
of Jan. 5 and some were counted in other EDs) is unclear. Perhaps an
example like dead people voting but in this case providing a basis for
federal representation and funds. Joel Weintraub, Dana Point, CA.


Re: London phone help #general

Jason Hallgarten <Jasonh@...>
 

The numbers changed. you need to dial 44 207 679 7373

regards

Jason Hallgarten

< I have the fax number of the Univ. College in London 020-7679-7373.
Do I dial 011-171 or 181 first? >


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: London phone help #general

Jason Hallgarten <Jasonh@...>
 

The numbers changed. you need to dial 44 207 679 7373

regards

Jason Hallgarten

< I have the fax number of the Univ. College in London 020-7679-7373.
Do I dial 011-171 or 181 first? >


Russian prisoner #general

Philippe & Maria Lichtenberg <licht@...>
 

Hi,

My grand-father was a russian prisoner in Germany during the WW1. He may
have worked in a farm. Do you know if some informations about russian
war-prisoners are available somewhere ?

Thanks a lot.

Philippe Lichtenberg
licht@club-internet.fr


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Russian prisoner #general

Philippe & Maria Lichtenberg <licht@...>
 

Hi,

My grand-father was a russian prisoner in Germany during the WW1. He may
have worked in a farm. Do you know if some informations about russian
war-prisoners are available somewhere ?

Thanks a lot.

Philippe Lichtenberg
licht@club-internet.fr


1890's travel across Europe #general

David Wallace
 

1890's travel across Europe

My grandparents traveled >from Ukraine to the East End of London, England in
the 1890's. What type of transport would they have been likely to use,
would refugees have traveled in groups or alone. Would most have ended up
in Hamburg before heading to England, and how would they have been treated
on the way. I found one book on life in Eastern Europe "Life is with
People" but nothing on trevel >from there at the turn of the century.
Can anyone help me with information on this subject.
Thankyou
David Wallace
Sydney
Australia
dwphoto@zip.com.au
Thankyou


Re: London phone help #general

Nick Landau <N.Landau@...>
 

I don't think that this is correct. >from the US to the UK the code is 44 so
the number is 0044 20 7679 7373.

The codes are given on http://www.kropla.com/dialcode.htm.

Nick Landau
London, UK

If you are calling >from the US then dial 011 20 7679 7373