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Viewmate help #general

Fran Segall <FranSegall@...>
 

I just want to thank everyone who responded to my request re: Viewmate
photos #3357 & 3358. I started to thank everyone individually but, as
usual, there are just far too many helpful people on JewishGen for
that!!

Thank you all!

Fran
Manassas, VA
FranSegall@comcast.net
**********
Doing research on:
Galicia, Poland: STRICK (Wielopole)
Galicia, Ukraine: LICHTMANN (Stanislavov/Ivano-Frankovs'k and
Bolszowce/Bol'shovtsy)
Belarus: BROUDA/BREWDA/BREVDA/BREWDI (Amstibove/Mstibovo)
Ukraine: KLETZEL/KLETSEL (Volhynia region)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate help #general

Fran Segall <FranSegall@...>
 

I just want to thank everyone who responded to my request re: Viewmate
photos #3357 & 3358. I started to thank everyone individually but, as
usual, there are just far too many helpful people on JewishGen for
that!!

Thank you all!

Fran
Manassas, VA
FranSegall@comcast.net
**********
Doing research on:
Galicia, Poland: STRICK (Wielopole)
Galicia, Ukraine: LICHTMANN (Stanislavov/Ivano-Frankovs'k and
Bolszowce/Bol'shovtsy)
Belarus: BROUDA/BREWDA/BREVDA/BREWDI (Amstibove/Mstibovo)
Ukraine: KLETZEL/KLETSEL (Volhynia region)


ZUCKERMAN - REINHARTZ , Makow Mazowiecki Poland #general

Eden Joachim <esjoachim@...>
 

I am in possession of a birth record which is not mine.

If anyone is researching this family, please let me know so I can send it to
you.

Birth of Nachuma ZUCKERMAN, October 1901 to Shmuel Gershon ZUCKERMAN and
Esther Rivka REINHARTZ
Reported in Makow Mazowiecki, November 1902

Eden Joachim
Pomona, New York
esjoachim@optonline.net

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ZUCKERMAN - REINHARTZ , Makow Mazowiecki Poland #general

Eden Joachim <esjoachim@...>
 

I am in possession of a birth record which is not mine.

If anyone is researching this family, please let me know so I can send it to
you.

Birth of Nachuma ZUCKERMAN, October 1901 to Shmuel Gershon ZUCKERMAN and
Esther Rivka REINHARTZ
Reported in Makow Mazowiecki, November 1902

Eden Joachim
Pomona, New York
esjoachim@optonline.net

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately


Bais Hamedrash Hagodol #general

Rabbi Ben-Zion Saydman <ravbenzi@...>
 

If you have roots in or have information about Congregation Bais Hamedrash
Hagodol located at 60 Norfolk Street in NYC, or if you have a connection to
or information about the Montefiore Hebrew Free School (Montefyore Talmud
Toyreh), which was located at 40 Gouverneur Street, NYC, please contact me.
Thank you.

Rabbi Ben-Zion Saydman
California

MAYPER, MELTSNER, WERNER, RAPHAEL, ROMM, SATINSKY, BAYER, NEVIAZHSKY,
CHIPKIN, NEWMAN
Rumsiskes, New York, Philadelphia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Bais Hamedrash Hagodol #general

Rabbi Ben-Zion Saydman <ravbenzi@...>
 

If you have roots in or have information about Congregation Bais Hamedrash
Hagodol located at 60 Norfolk Street in NYC, or if you have a connection to
or information about the Montefiore Hebrew Free School (Montefyore Talmud
Toyreh), which was located at 40 Gouverneur Street, NYC, please contact me.
Thank you.

Rabbi Ben-Zion Saydman
California

MAYPER, MELTSNER, WERNER, RAPHAEL, ROMM, SATINSKY, BAYER, NEVIAZHSKY,
CHIPKIN, NEWMAN
Rumsiskes, New York, Philadelphia


Rosenhayn #general

Rabbi Ben-Zion Saydman <ravbenzi@...>
 

Shalom Genners:

My MAYPER and CHIPKIN relatives immigrated to New York in the late 1880's
and early 1890's. Shortly after their arrival, they moved to Rosenhayn, New
Jersey and became part of the Baron de Hirsch agricultural settlement.

I would like to know how my relatives became Hirschian farmers. Were they
recruited while still in Lithuania or did an agent entice them to join the
agricultural settlement after they arrived in New York? Does anyone else
have a connection to Rosenhayn? Does anyone know if historical records have
survived >from the Rosenhayn colony?

Thank you and my thanks to all of those who responded to my earlier 1900
census question. You are the greatest!

Rabbi Ben-Zion Saydman
California

MAYPER, MELTSNER, WERNER, RAPHAEL, ROMM, SATINSKY, BAYER, NEVIAZHSKY,
CHIPKIN, NEWMAN
Rumsiskes, New York, Philadelphia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rosenhayn #general

Rabbi Ben-Zion Saydman <ravbenzi@...>
 

Shalom Genners:

My MAYPER and CHIPKIN relatives immigrated to New York in the late 1880's
and early 1890's. Shortly after their arrival, they moved to Rosenhayn, New
Jersey and became part of the Baron de Hirsch agricultural settlement.

I would like to know how my relatives became Hirschian farmers. Were they
recruited while still in Lithuania or did an agent entice them to join the
agricultural settlement after they arrived in New York? Does anyone else
have a connection to Rosenhayn? Does anyone know if historical records have
survived >from the Rosenhayn colony?

Thank you and my thanks to all of those who responded to my earlier 1900
census question. You are the greatest!

Rabbi Ben-Zion Saydman
California

MAYPER, MELTSNER, WERNER, RAPHAEL, ROMM, SATINSKY, BAYER, NEVIAZHSKY,
CHIPKIN, NEWMAN
Rumsiskes, New York, Philadelphia


Naturalization Question? #general

Charles F. Printz <cfphrai@...>
 

Hi Fellow Researchers,

In a previous digest, Barbara Meyers <babycat3@aol.com> asked -

If someone began the naturalization process and died before the actual
naturalization or oath took effect, does anyone know what would happen to the
preliminary paperwork ie:Declaration of Intent and Petition for Naturalization?

My relative arrived in the US in 1902 and died in 1923. I am wondering if he
might have begun the process at some point in time and if so, where I might
find the paperwork, that is, if this kind of unfinished business would have
been archived, and if so, where?

Replying to an earlier immigration question, I made mention of the fact that the
Immigration Bureau (as it was known in the early part of the 20th century) did not
have any uniform procedures for the collection, retention, or general processing
of applications and petitions until around 1926. Given that fact, the likelihood
that BCI (formerly INS) archives contain any helpful information on "incomplete"
or "partially completed" cases filed between 1902 and 1923 seems remote. It is
more likely that the local court having jurisdiction over the petitioner's place
of residence in the cited time period might have the Declaration of Intent
information in their old records.

Today, one would expect to find copies of the vast majority of applications a/o
petitions put on record with BCI, even if no action was later taken to complete
the petition or application, or the action had been abandoned. Under appropriate
procedures (i.e. Freedom of Information Act (FOIA)), a properly recognized
requester is able to secure the person's file and likely find copies or
references to filings made by the petitioner or applicant. In Barbara's case,
however, I would start with the state court/s in the appropriate jurisdiction.
One note of warning, in some cases, it can even take those of us who practice
immigration law one year or more to receive >from BCI a FOIA response on a client.

All the best,

Chuck Printz,
Elizabeth, NJ/USA
New York, NY/USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Naturalization Question? #general

Charles F. Printz <cfphrai@...>
 

Hi Fellow Researchers,

In a previous digest, Barbara Meyers <babycat3@aol.com> asked -

If someone began the naturalization process and died before the actual
naturalization or oath took effect, does anyone know what would happen to the
preliminary paperwork ie:Declaration of Intent and Petition for Naturalization?

My relative arrived in the US in 1902 and died in 1923. I am wondering if he
might have begun the process at some point in time and if so, where I might
find the paperwork, that is, if this kind of unfinished business would have
been archived, and if so, where?

Replying to an earlier immigration question, I made mention of the fact that the
Immigration Bureau (as it was known in the early part of the 20th century) did not
have any uniform procedures for the collection, retention, or general processing
of applications and petitions until around 1926. Given that fact, the likelihood
that BCI (formerly INS) archives contain any helpful information on "incomplete"
or "partially completed" cases filed between 1902 and 1923 seems remote. It is
more likely that the local court having jurisdiction over the petitioner's place
of residence in the cited time period might have the Declaration of Intent
information in their old records.

Today, one would expect to find copies of the vast majority of applications a/o
petitions put on record with BCI, even if no action was later taken to complete
the petition or application, or the action had been abandoned. Under appropriate
procedures (i.e. Freedom of Information Act (FOIA)), a properly recognized
requester is able to secure the person's file and likely find copies or
references to filings made by the petitioner or applicant. In Barbara's case,
however, I would start with the state court/s in the appropriate jurisdiction.
One note of warning, in some cases, it can even take those of us who practice
immigration law one year or more to receive >from BCI a FOIA response on a client.

All the best,

Chuck Printz,
Elizabeth, NJ/USA
New York, NY/USA


Does anyone have information on the Kelme cemetery? #general

Roy Ogus <ogus@...>
 

I noticed on the JewishGen IAJGS Cemetery Project web page, the
following is written about the Jewish Cemetery in Kelme, Lithuania:

"KELME:
Large cemetery with several hundred stones in varying condition.
Alternate names: Kelem, Kelmy (Russian), Kelem or Kelm (Yiddish)."

Does anyone know if these gravestones have been photographed, or whether
the information >from the stones has been collected?

And, if so, where this information would be available?

Thanks for any input.

Roy Ogus
Palo Alto, California, USA
ogus@impact.xerox.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Does anyone have information on the Kelme cemetery? #general

Roy Ogus <ogus@...>
 

I noticed on the JewishGen IAJGS Cemetery Project web page, the
following is written about the Jewish Cemetery in Kelme, Lithuania:

"KELME:
Large cemetery with several hundred stones in varying condition.
Alternate names: Kelem, Kelmy (Russian), Kelem or Kelm (Yiddish)."

Does anyone know if these gravestones have been photographed, or whether
the information >from the stones has been collected?

And, if so, where this information would be available?

Thanks for any input.

Roy Ogus
Palo Alto, California, USA
ogus@impact.xerox.com


Re: Searching for ADLER, WEINREB, MUNK in SLOVAKIA #hungary

Peter S. Wyant <p.wyant@...>
 

Evelyn,

have you tried the ADLER List on RootsWeb? No charge. Go to:

http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/a/adler.html

Regards,

Peter Wyant
Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada

EPAILAS@aol.com wrote:

I am searching for decendants of my relatives with family names
ADLER, WEINREB and MUNK. They lived in the areas of
Zlate Moravce (Aranysmarot), Volkovce (Valkocs) and
Vrable (Verebely), Slovakia (formerly Hungary).

If you have any information you could share please
contact me privately at epailas@aol.com

Evelyn Pailas
Randolph, New Jersey, USA

---
mailto:EPAILAS@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Searching for ADLER, WEINREB, MUNK in SLOVAKIA #general

Peter S. Wyant <p.wyant@...>
 

Evelyn,

have you tried the ADLER List on RootsWeb? No charge. Go to:

http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/a/adler.html

Regards,

Peter Wyant
Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada

EPAILAS@aol.com wrote:

I am searching for decendants of my relatives with family names
ADLER, WEINREB and MUNK. They lived in the areas of
Zlate Moravce (Aranysmarot), Volkovce (Valkocs) and
Vrable (Verebely), Slovakia (formerly Hungary).

If you have any information you could share please
contact me privately at epailas@aol.com

Evelyn Pailas
Randolph, New Jersey, USA

---
mailto:EPAILAS@aol.com


1884 Arrival In Halifax - where do I find? #general

A. E. Jordan
 

I am looking for the arrival records for a family member who I guess
first stepped foot in North America in Halifax in August 1884. Where would
I look for records? Are there passenger lists?

The situation is very confusing, but here goes the full tale. The
Holland-America Line ship Amsterdam left Holland for New York in July
1884 and the ship ran around on Sable Island off Canada. The passengers
were stranded on Sable Island and later picked up by another ship and
carried to Halifax.

from Halifax, the picture is not very clear. One report says the
passengers went sent by overnight steamer (not an ocean going liner)
to New York. A second says they were sent by train to New York.
But the on The Ship List page it has a note >from Canada saying the
German consul intervened on behalf of the immigrant passengers and
asked that they be sent directly via train >from Halifax to their destination.

So where did my family go >from Halifax and how? All I know is that they
ultimately made their way to Bay City, Michigan, where they settled.
On board the wrecked ship, as the family legend goes, was mother Fanny
LAMPKE and her son Louis and daughters Rose and Minnie. Minnie, the infant,
as the family story goes, died as a result of either exposure or bad food
they feed her while on Sable Island.

I am hoping that I can find a list of the immigrant passengers >from this ship
to confirm this wonderful story.

It appears the Holland America passenger records only go back to 1900 (
from the info file). The St. Albans lists only start later (I think).
Any ideas genners?

Thanks for your thoughts.

Allan Jordan
aejordan@(nospam)aol.com -- remove the no space to reply please


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 1884 Arrival In Halifax - where do I find? #general

A. E. Jordan
 

I am looking for the arrival records for a family member who I guess
first stepped foot in North America in Halifax in August 1884. Where would
I look for records? Are there passenger lists?

The situation is very confusing, but here goes the full tale. The
Holland-America Line ship Amsterdam left Holland for New York in July
1884 and the ship ran around on Sable Island off Canada. The passengers
were stranded on Sable Island and later picked up by another ship and
carried to Halifax.

from Halifax, the picture is not very clear. One report says the
passengers went sent by overnight steamer (not an ocean going liner)
to New York. A second says they were sent by train to New York.
But the on The Ship List page it has a note >from Canada saying the
German consul intervened on behalf of the immigrant passengers and
asked that they be sent directly via train >from Halifax to their destination.

So where did my family go >from Halifax and how? All I know is that they
ultimately made their way to Bay City, Michigan, where they settled.
On board the wrecked ship, as the family legend goes, was mother Fanny
LAMPKE and her son Louis and daughters Rose and Minnie. Minnie, the infant,
as the family story goes, died as a result of either exposure or bad food
they feed her while on Sable Island.

I am hoping that I can find a list of the immigrant passengers >from this ship
to confirm this wonderful story.

It appears the Holland America passenger records only go back to 1900 (
from the info file). The St. Albans lists only start later (I think).
Any ideas genners?

Thanks for your thoughts.

Allan Jordan
aejordan@(nospam)aol.com -- remove the no space to reply please


Re: MANILEVICH 1906 Kiev Gubernia Duma List #ukraine

Prof. G. L. Esterson <jerry@...>
 

Shirley Manuel posted as follows:

"I was very happy to have read the 1906 Kiev Gubernia
Duma Voter's List where I read my paternal
grandfather's name and discovered his father's name,
also. However, what does remain a mystery is that
grandfather's name appears twice on the List as:
Yankel Manilevich Vasilkov, and
Kopel Manilevich Vasilkov

Does anyone know a reason why his name would be listed
twice? In Yiddish, Kopel is the diminutive for
Jacob/Yankel. "

The Yiddish name Kopl/Kopil is not a diminutive for the Hebrew name Yaakov,
but rather a KINUI for Yaakov. That is, in an official legal Jewish
document, such as a Get (Jewish divorce document), the name for a person
having both names is required by Jewish law to be written as Yaakov
haMechune Kopl (in Hebrew characters, of course). Otherwise, the divorce
might later be declared to be invalid, with all of the bad implications for
any children subsequently born to either of the parties to the
"divorce". Of course, it is assumed that the two names do in fact
represent the same person.

It was not uncommon for Jews to use one or the other of their double names
in different venues, for reasons which later appear to be obscure. This
may be such a case.

Prof. G. L. Esterson, Ra'anana, Israel


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: MANILEVICH 1906 Kiev Gubernia Duma List #ukraine

Prof. G. L. Esterson <jerry@...>
 

Shirley Manuel posted as follows:

"I was very happy to have read the 1906 Kiev Gubernia
Duma Voter's List where I read my paternal
grandfather's name and discovered his father's name,
also. However, what does remain a mystery is that
grandfather's name appears twice on the List as:
Yankel Manilevich Vasilkov, and
Kopel Manilevich Vasilkov

Does anyone know a reason why his name would be listed
twice? In Yiddish, Kopel is the diminutive for
Jacob/Yankel. "

The Yiddish name Kopl/Kopil is not a diminutive for the Hebrew name Yaakov,
but rather a KINUI for Yaakov. That is, in an official legal Jewish
document, such as a Get (Jewish divorce document), the name for a person
having both names is required by Jewish law to be written as Yaakov
haMechune Kopl (in Hebrew characters, of course). Otherwise, the divorce
might later be declared to be invalid, with all of the bad implications for
any children subsequently born to either of the parties to the
"divorce". Of course, it is assumed that the two names do in fact
represent the same person.

It was not uncommon for Jews to use one or the other of their double names
in different venues, for reasons which later appear to be obscure. This
may be such a case.

Prof. G. L. Esterson, Ra'anana, Israel


eMail for N. Moderick #general

Carol Raspler
 

Hello All: my eMails to Naomi Moderick are bouncing, Would appreciate
receiving her new address, but please respond privately.
Thanks, Carol Raspler, Delray Beach, FL


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen eMail for N. Moderick #general

Carol Raspler
 

Hello All: my eMails to Naomi Moderick are bouncing, Would appreciate
receiving her new address, but please respond privately.
Thanks, Carol Raspler, Delray Beach, FL