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Opatow and Bodzentyn- GRINBLAT #general

Sid Greenberg <sid.greenberg@...>
 

Dear Genners:

First of all, I would like to thank David Price and Dolores Ring for
extracting the Opatow and Bodzentyn records, and for the Kielce-Radom SIG
journal for publishing them.

I have new names that I would like to offer for other Grinblats to consider-

1870- b. Nusen Dawid- father Michal, mother Rykla WALBERG- my
gggrandparents.

1873-b. Berek- father Hersz Lieb, mother Maria BEKERMAN- my ggrandparents
Hersz Lieb was the son of Michal and his first wife Maryem.

1883-b. Kajla- father Hersz Lieb, mother Maria Bekerman

Marriages- these are half-sisters to Hersz Lieb-
1874- Perla Grinblat, 16, parents Michal and Rykla
married- Izrael Ber Perel, 19, parents Zysio and Rajcla

1880- Maria Sura Grinblat, 16, parents Michal and Rykla ( Ruchla)
married- Szmul Szmerel RAJCHCAIG, 18, parents Wigdor ( deceased) and Rywka
Ruchla

There are other Grinblat names, but I haven't been able to match them yet.

I would like to hear >from anyone who is a descendant of the above, or knows
anything about them.

Many thanks.

Sid Greenberg
Richmond Hill, Ontario, Canada
sid.greenberg@sympatico.ca

GRINBLAT, GREENBLATT, GREENBERG, WAGMAN
GLUCKSTEIN, BERMAN, NAMOVITZ- or various spellings


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Opatow and Bodzentyn- GRINBLAT #general

Sid Greenberg <sid.greenberg@...>
 

Dear Genners:

First of all, I would like to thank David Price and Dolores Ring for
extracting the Opatow and Bodzentyn records, and for the Kielce-Radom SIG
journal for publishing them.

I have new names that I would like to offer for other Grinblats to consider-

1870- b. Nusen Dawid- father Michal, mother Rykla WALBERG- my
gggrandparents.

1873-b. Berek- father Hersz Lieb, mother Maria BEKERMAN- my ggrandparents
Hersz Lieb was the son of Michal and his first wife Maryem.

1883-b. Kajla- father Hersz Lieb, mother Maria Bekerman

Marriages- these are half-sisters to Hersz Lieb-
1874- Perla Grinblat, 16, parents Michal and Rykla
married- Izrael Ber Perel, 19, parents Zysio and Rajcla

1880- Maria Sura Grinblat, 16, parents Michal and Rykla ( Ruchla)
married- Szmul Szmerel RAJCHCAIG, 18, parents Wigdor ( deceased) and Rywka
Ruchla

There are other Grinblat names, but I haven't been able to match them yet.

I would like to hear >from anyone who is a descendant of the above, or knows
anything about them.

Many thanks.

Sid Greenberg
Richmond Hill, Ontario, Canada
sid.greenberg@sympatico.ca

GRINBLAT, GREENBLATT, GREENBERG, WAGMAN
GLUCKSTEIN, BERMAN, NAMOVITZ- or various spellings


Regina WEIZ -- in Palestine in the 1940s #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

My cousin Dora TELMAN was born in Radomsko, Poland. She survived the war,
and was rescued >from Ravensbruck and taken to Sweden. In a 1940s survivor
document in Sweden, she listed a family member named Regina WEIZ, in
Palestine:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0310.TelmanDora.jpg

Of course, I wish I had more information! But in case "Regina WEIZ, in
Palestine" stirs your memories or imagination, please let me know if have
any ideas for my further searching. Or perhaps do you know of such a
person?

Dan

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@wittenberg.edu>
Springfield, Ohio USA
TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK, BRODA, SZEWCZYK,
RAYZMAN, LEWKOWICZ, SZPALTYN, OFMAN, ZYLBERBERG, KRZEPICKI, LUKS,
MOSZKOWICZ, STROZ, SZWIMER, GUTMAN, PESACH, FEYNER/FEINER/FAYNER,
BORZYKOWSKI, SZEWCZYK, SZWARCBERG, HILLER, FEDERMAN
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/englander/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Regina WEIZ -- in Palestine in the 1940s #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

My cousin Dora TELMAN was born in Radomsko, Poland. She survived the war,
and was rescued >from Ravensbruck and taken to Sweden. In a 1940s survivor
document in Sweden, she listed a family member named Regina WEIZ, in
Palestine:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0310.TelmanDora.jpg

Of course, I wish I had more information! But in case "Regina WEIZ, in
Palestine" stirs your memories or imagination, please let me know if have
any ideas for my further searching. Or perhaps do you know of such a
person?

Dan

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@wittenberg.edu>
Springfield, Ohio USA
TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK, BRODA, SZEWCZYK,
RAYZMAN, LEWKOWICZ, SZPALTYN, OFMAN, ZYLBERBERG, KRZEPICKI, LUKS,
MOSZKOWICZ, STROZ, SZWIMER, GUTMAN, PESACH, FEYNER/FEINER/FAYNER,
BORZYKOWSKI, SZEWCZYK, SZWARCBERG, HILLER, FEDERMAN
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/englander/


Looking for THAL descendants #general

bgephart@...
 

I am looking for descendants of Moshe and Sarah THAL >from Sassmacken,
Courland, now Valdemarpils, Latvia. Specifically, I would like to find
descendants of four of their nine children: Leba THAL (ca.1830-1902) and
his wife Rachel, Scheine THAL (b. ca. 1843) and her husband
Samuel/Shulem KRAMER >from Talsen, Shimon THAL (ca.1846-1893) and his
wife Doris FRIEDMAN, and Rachel THAL (ca.1852-1881) and her husband
Elias LEVY who lived in Riga. Further information is available at
http://home.comcast.net/~bgephart/thal.html. If you have any
information, please contact Betsy Thal Gephart at bgephart@comcast.net.

Sincerely,
Betsy Thal Gephart
bgephart@comcast.net
Fort Wayne, Indiana
USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for THAL descendants #general

bgephart@...
 

I am looking for descendants of Moshe and Sarah THAL >from Sassmacken,
Courland, now Valdemarpils, Latvia. Specifically, I would like to find
descendants of four of their nine children: Leba THAL (ca.1830-1902) and
his wife Rachel, Scheine THAL (b. ca. 1843) and her husband
Samuel/Shulem KRAMER >from Talsen, Shimon THAL (ca.1846-1893) and his
wife Doris FRIEDMAN, and Rachel THAL (ca.1852-1881) and her husband
Elias LEVY who lived in Riga. Further information is available at
http://home.comcast.net/~bgephart/thal.html. If you have any
information, please contact Betsy Thal Gephart at bgephart@comcast.net.

Sincerely,
Betsy Thal Gephart
bgephart@comcast.net
Fort Wayne, Indiana
USA


Witz -- a town in the old Russian Empire #general

Alice Josephs
 

Does anybody know what the present day name is of a place called Witz,
a place of birth noted in British naturalization papers of a former
citizen of the Russian Empire? I've had a go with the Daitch Mokotoff
search on the Shtetlseeker but obviously there are quite a few
contenders. I was wondering if anyone knew this as an anglicized or old
name of a town. I do realize it is also the ending of many surnames but
this is definitely a place.

I would appreciate the answer sent to me privately as well as to the
list as I receive the digest version.

Alice Josephs
UK


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Witz -- a town in the old Russian Empire #general

Alice Josephs
 

Does anybody know what the present day name is of a place called Witz,
a place of birth noted in British naturalization papers of a former
citizen of the Russian Empire? I've had a go with the Daitch Mokotoff
search on the Shtetlseeker but obviously there are quite a few
contenders. I was wondering if anyone knew this as an anglicized or old
name of a town. I do realize it is also the ending of many surnames but
this is definitely a place.

I would appreciate the answer sent to me privately as well as to the
list as I receive the digest version.

Alice Josephs
UK


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Russian "Gerim" #general

Mervyn Doobov <mdoobov@...>
 

urban1@iinet.net.au (John & Michelle Urban) wrote

We received a query >from a lady of 91 and was wondering whether you can help.
She had been told that : In the late 1800s a large group of Russians
converted en-masse to Judaism and were known as 'Gerim'.
They went to Palestine and then in the early 1900s many of them migrated
to Perth, Western Australia.

Is this correct?
If so, does anyone have any information at all.

Thank you.

Michelle & John Urban
Perth, Western Australia
jhgs@iinet.net.au

This does not appply particulary to gerim >from Russia but, in the years
1920 - 1931, 40% of the Jewish immigrants >from Palestine to Australia
settled in Perth, probably because it was the first port of call (see
Suzanne D. Rutland, "Edge of the Disapora", Collins 1988).

-- Mervyn Doobov, Jerusalem, Israel.


Re: Russian "Gerim" #general

Mervyn Doobov <mdoobov@...>
 

urban1@iinet.net.au (John & Michelle Urban) wrote

We received a query >from a lady of 91 and was wondering whether you can help.
She had been told that : In the late 1800s a large group of Russians
converted en-masse to Judaism and were known as 'Gerim'.
They went to Palestine and then in the early 1900s many of them migrated
to Perth, Western Australia.

Is this correct?
If so, does anyone have any information at all.

Thank you.

Michelle & John Urban
Perth, Western Australia
jhgs@iinet.net.au

This does not appply particulary to gerim >from Russia but, in the years
1920 - 1931, 40% of the Jewish immigrants >from Palestine to Australia
settled in Perth, probably because it was the first port of call (see
Suzanne D. Rutland, "Edge of the Disapora", Collins 1988).

-- Mervyn Doobov, Jerusalem, Israel.


Re: names Dina and Diana #general

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dinah is a Biblical name, she was one of Jacob's daughter. It roots
from the Hebrew word 'din' (judgement).
In modern days it has been used as a variant of Diana. However Diana
originates >from Greek-Roman mythology. She was the goddess of hunting
and the moon. Seemingly the roots of the Greek name are 'Dio' meaning
'god' this being the denomination of the supreme good Zeus.


My grandmother was born in Lithuania in 1868, she was always called Dina;
I have found some recods that call her Diana. What is the origin of this
name?

Harlow Franklin
--

Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: names Dina and Diana #general

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dinah is a Biblical name, she was one of Jacob's daughter. It roots
from the Hebrew word 'din' (judgement).
In modern days it has been used as a variant of Diana. However Diana
originates >from Greek-Roman mythology. She was the goddess of hunting
and the moon. Seemingly the roots of the Greek name are 'Dio' meaning
'god' this being the denomination of the supreme good Zeus.


My grandmother was born in Lithuania in 1868, she was always called Dina;
I have found some recods that call her Diana. What is the origin of this
name?

Harlow Franklin
--

Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Rabbi Alter ABELSON #general

Zemanlf@...
 

I am looking for information about my grandfather, Rabbi Alter Abelson who graduated >from the Jewish Theological Seminary in 1903. He was rabbi in Helena, Montana at the first Jewish congregation, in Akron, Ohio, in Roanoke, VA where he was run out of town by the KKK for preaching integration, and at the Truro Synogogue in Newport, RI. I am specifically interested in finding a list of synagogues where he served as the rabbi and the years he served. If you have any information, please contact me via e-mail at
Zemanlf@aol.com
Thank you
Linda Zeman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rabbi Alter ABELSON #general

Zemanlf@...
 

I am looking for information about my grandfather, Rabbi Alter Abelson who graduated >from the Jewish Theological Seminary in 1903. He was rabbi in Helena, Montana at the first Jewish congregation, in Akron, Ohio, in Roanoke, VA where he was run out of town by the KKK for preaching integration, and at the Truro Synogogue in Newport, RI. I am specifically interested in finding a list of synagogues where he served as the rabbi and the years he served. If you have any information, please contact me via e-mail at
Zemanlf@aol.com
Thank you
Linda Zeman


Birth of "Jack Leslie Noon" in September 1901 using FreeBMD #general

Barry Spinner <bspinner@...>
 

A Genner sought information.

Birth of "Jack Leslie Noon" in September 1901 using FreeBMD,
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

FreeBMD is a volunteer effort to index all Birth, Marriage, and Death
registry data in England >from the date of mandatory registration -1837-
onward. (There is a commercial site doing the same.)

Not all years have been indexed into FreeBMD: many years have however been
completely entered. It is important to keep this in mind. (As they say
"read the instructions before use.")

There is no person so-named "Jack Leslie Noon" born in England in the time
range 1895 -1905.
NOON is a somewhat common surname in England. This made searching a little
difficult, and required limiting the searches in geographical and given name
strategies.

I did search on J*, and L* in the NOON files with no direct result. It is
extremely unlikely that the birth was NOT registered. In this era only
still-births were registered problematically.

Given that the search of the 1901 census - discussed earlier- shows the
parents are living in Bethnal Green, a London administrative unit on Census
night in the Spring of 1901, a search of all NOON births in Bethnal Green
was helpful. Three Bethnal Green births worthy of further research are
Benjamin 1899, Lazarus 1900, and Martha Sarah 1901.

It is very likely that at least one of these is a sibling of the aforesaid
"Jack". Possibly Lazarus is "Jack".

The enquirer now needs to order birth certificates >from England. This can
be done on-line.

The enquirer can reach me privately if he seeks further guidance. There
are a plethora of records in the UK that may help identify the shtetl if
the BC does not.

Good luck.

Barry Spinner
Searching Betterspinner in Galicia, etc.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Birth of "Jack Leslie Noon" in September 1901 using FreeBMD #general

Barry Spinner <bspinner@...>
 

A Genner sought information.

Birth of "Jack Leslie Noon" in September 1901 using FreeBMD,
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

FreeBMD is a volunteer effort to index all Birth, Marriage, and Death
registry data in England >from the date of mandatory registration -1837-
onward. (There is a commercial site doing the same.)

Not all years have been indexed into FreeBMD: many years have however been
completely entered. It is important to keep this in mind. (As they say
"read the instructions before use.")

There is no person so-named "Jack Leslie Noon" born in England in the time
range 1895 -1905.
NOON is a somewhat common surname in England. This made searching a little
difficult, and required limiting the searches in geographical and given name
strategies.

I did search on J*, and L* in the NOON files with no direct result. It is
extremely unlikely that the birth was NOT registered. In this era only
still-births were registered problematically.

Given that the search of the 1901 census - discussed earlier- shows the
parents are living in Bethnal Green, a London administrative unit on Census
night in the Spring of 1901, a search of all NOON births in Bethnal Green
was helpful. Three Bethnal Green births worthy of further research are
Benjamin 1899, Lazarus 1900, and Martha Sarah 1901.

It is very likely that at least one of these is a sibling of the aforesaid
"Jack". Possibly Lazarus is "Jack".

The enquirer now needs to order birth certificates >from England. This can
be done on-line.

The enquirer can reach me privately if he seeks further guidance. There
are a plethora of records in the UK that may help identify the shtetl if
the BC does not.

Good luck.

Barry Spinner
Searching Betterspinner in Galicia, etc.


NOONs in England 1901 onward. Using Census decoder recently described at JewishGen list. #general

Barry Spinner <bspinner@...>
 

Recently I described a powerful tool for searching and codifying results
from the 1901 British census to the List.
http://www.censusdecoder.com/

A query today >from South Africa ably demonstrated the power of this tool.

According to the querier, a family named NOON was in England when a child
was born in Sept. 1901. What great timing! Just six months after the
census.

I used the 1901 Decoder to find Morris NOON in Bethnal Green, London.. He
is with Esther. Both are aged thirty. Both are born in "Russia NK".

In Bethnal Green there are three heads of household: Morris, Ann (aged 67)
, and James (aged 39).
There are also ten children with names such as Lazarus, Leah, John, Hyman,
George, Bingham!, Alice, and Walter.

I would not like to take away all the surprise, so I leave it to the
original enquirer to play with the Decoder (remembering to change the
display setting to 20) to see the exact family relationships.

All this information was produced without spending a sheqel (or a Rand).
However at the U.K. PRO census site, for a trivial investment of five
Pounds, one can actually see the census pages of each and every family.

Later, if time permits, I'll give guidance on finding records or indices of
the 1901 child's birth!

Barry Spinner

Searching Betterspinner in Galicia, Friedman in Connecticut, and Knapp in
Hampshire and Berkshire.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen NOONs in England 1901 onward. Using Census decoder recently described at JewishGen list. #general

Barry Spinner <bspinner@...>
 

Recently I described a powerful tool for searching and codifying results
from the 1901 British census to the List.
http://www.censusdecoder.com/

A query today >from South Africa ably demonstrated the power of this tool.

According to the querier, a family named NOON was in England when a child
was born in Sept. 1901. What great timing! Just six months after the
census.

I used the 1901 Decoder to find Morris NOON in Bethnal Green, London.. He
is with Esther. Both are aged thirty. Both are born in "Russia NK".

In Bethnal Green there are three heads of household: Morris, Ann (aged 67)
, and James (aged 39).
There are also ten children with names such as Lazarus, Leah, John, Hyman,
George, Bingham!, Alice, and Walter.

I would not like to take away all the surprise, so I leave it to the
original enquirer to play with the Decoder (remembering to change the
display setting to 20) to see the exact family relationships.

All this information was produced without spending a sheqel (or a Rand).
However at the U.K. PRO census site, for a trivial investment of five
Pounds, one can actually see the census pages of each and every family.

Later, if time permits, I'll give guidance on finding records or indices of
the 1901 child's birth!

Barry Spinner

Searching Betterspinner in Galicia, Friedman in Connecticut, and Knapp in
Hampshire and Berkshire.


Noon family research #general

Jill Anderson <jill.anderson@...>
 

In reply to Barry's query below, I had a look at this site:
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com and found two children born in 1901 called
John Noon. Since Jack is a nickname for John, maybe one of these is the
correct person, but see below. You would need to order the
certificates to find out. Here's a link >from the site
http://www.oz.net/~markhow/ukbirths.htm

On the 1901 census, http://www.census.pro.gov.uk/index.html I found an
entry for Esther Noon, aged 30, born in Russia and living in Bethnal
Green. I also searched for Morris and found one - also in Bethnal
Green, aged 30, a cabinet maker. You can search for other people at the
same address, but that means paying a few pounds.

Good luck
Jill Anderson
London


I am trying desperately to trace my relatives on my father's father side
(i.e. my grandfather on my father's side). All I know about my father's
father is his full name: Jack Leslie Noon. I also know that he was born
somewhere in England on September 1901.

I also have some information about his mother and father. His father's name
was Morris Noon and mother was Esther Noon (maiden name was Michael). I also
know that Esther originates >from Minsk Russia (I assume then that so does
Morris?).

Jack, Esther and Morris eventually immigrated to South Africa (where I am
currently), but I have no other information concerning them.

Any information would be very helpful. Unfortunately, I suspect that Noon
was anglicised, but I have no idea what the original surname would be.

If anyone would like more information or has information to share, please
email barry (bnoon@mweb.co.za).

Thank-you in advance
Barry Steyn


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Noon family research #general

Jill Anderson <jill.anderson@...>
 

In reply to Barry's query below, I had a look at this site:
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com and found two children born in 1901 called
John Noon. Since Jack is a nickname for John, maybe one of these is the
correct person, but see below. You would need to order the
certificates to find out. Here's a link >from the site
http://www.oz.net/~markhow/ukbirths.htm

On the 1901 census, http://www.census.pro.gov.uk/index.html I found an
entry for Esther Noon, aged 30, born in Russia and living in Bethnal
Green. I also searched for Morris and found one - also in Bethnal
Green, aged 30, a cabinet maker. You can search for other people at the
same address, but that means paying a few pounds.

Good luck
Jill Anderson
London


I am trying desperately to trace my relatives on my father's father side
(i.e. my grandfather on my father's side). All I know about my father's
father is his full name: Jack Leslie Noon. I also know that he was born
somewhere in England on September 1901.

I also have some information about his mother and father. His father's name
was Morris Noon and mother was Esther Noon (maiden name was Michael). I also
know that Esther originates >from Minsk Russia (I assume then that so does
Morris?).

Jack, Esther and Morris eventually immigrated to South Africa (where I am
currently), but I have no other information concerning them.

Any information would be very helpful. Unfortunately, I suspect that Noon
was anglicised, but I have no idea what the original surname would be.

If anyone would like more information or has information to share, please
email barry (bnoon@mweb.co.za).

Thank-you in advance
Barry Steyn