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Introduction - researching Rosetsky, Dubosar(sky), Gerber, Fiffer #ukraine

leemark@...
 

Hello my name is Lee Markiewicz and I am new to this sig. I tried to e-mail once before but it didn't work right.

Trying again....

I have made major progress thus far in US records and pinned down correct names and cities (some) a name change, etc.

Looking for ANY help, links, etc for the following:

Rosetsky - Piaterer (Piatigory), near kiev

Dubosarsky (changed to Dubosar in USA) - Kiev area, one town on a record says "Saflaw", his wife was >from Piatigory

Gerber or Fiffer - Stanislowow (Ivano-Franksk)

The known US places for these folks were hartford & new britain, ct, san francisco, ca, new york city possibly also

Thanks in advance.

-Lee Markiewicz


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Introduction - researching Rosetsky, Dubosar(sky), Gerber, Fiffer #ukraine

leemark@...
 

Hello my name is Lee Markiewicz and I am new to this sig. I tried to e-mail once before but it didn't work right.

Trying again....

I have made major progress thus far in US records and pinned down correct names and cities (some) a name change, etc.

Looking for ANY help, links, etc for the following:

Rosetsky - Piaterer (Piatigory), near kiev

Dubosarsky (changed to Dubosar in USA) - Kiev area, one town on a record says "Saflaw", his wife was >from Piatigory

Gerber or Fiffer - Stanislowow (Ivano-Franksk)

The known US places for these folks were hartford & new britain, ct, san francisco, ca, new york city possibly also

Thanks in advance.

-Lee Markiewicz


Search for Cherkinsky ancestors and descendants #ukraine

Robert Sherins <rsherins@...>
 

Dear Genners,

Looking for descent of ancestors with these surnames >from Konotop,
Russia (Konotop is now located in
western Ukraine):
1. Cherkinsky
2. Fradkin
3. Castleman

My grandfather, Louis Cherkinsky, was born in Konotop, Russia, in 1875
(Konotop is now located in western Ukraine) and arrived in New York in
1896. He traveled with his sister, Miasha (Miasin/ Mariasya)
Cherkinsky. Miasha married a Fradkin in New York, but his given name is

unknown . Another sister, Ida Cherkinsky, also immigrated to New York,
but the exact date of her arrival is unknown. Ida Cherkinsky married a
Castleman in New York, but his given name is also unknown.

I have been unable to locate any U.S. records or descendants of either
Miasha Cherkinsky or Ida Cherkinsky. However, I do have their family
records >from Konotop. If you are related to either of these families
please contact me by e-mail.

Robert Sherins
Pacific Palisades, CA
rsherins@gte.net


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Search for Cherkinsky ancestors and descendants #ukraine

Robert Sherins <rsherins@...>
 

Dear Genners,

Looking for descent of ancestors with these surnames >from Konotop,
Russia (Konotop is now located in
western Ukraine):
1. Cherkinsky
2. Fradkin
3. Castleman

My grandfather, Louis Cherkinsky, was born in Konotop, Russia, in 1875
(Konotop is now located in western Ukraine) and arrived in New York in
1896. He traveled with his sister, Miasha (Miasin/ Mariasya)
Cherkinsky. Miasha married a Fradkin in New York, but his given name is

unknown . Another sister, Ida Cherkinsky, also immigrated to New York,
but the exact date of her arrival is unknown. Ida Cherkinsky married a
Castleman in New York, but his given name is also unknown.

I have been unable to locate any U.S. records or descendants of either
Miasha Cherkinsky or Ida Cherkinsky. However, I do have their family
records >from Konotop. If you are related to either of these families
please contact me by e-mail.

Robert Sherins
Pacific Palisades, CA
rsherins@gte.net


looking for information #ukraine

nmelman1004@...
 

I am trying to find information on a shtetl that has disappeard. Located
in the Volhyn Gubernia, not far >from Belarus and Poland was a small village
called KIPEL or KUPEL. This was an area that changed hands between Polish,
Russian and Ukrainian occupation over the centuries. I would appreciate
any information that anyone may have on the history, location, and names
of inhabitants form that town.

Neil Melman


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine looking for information #ukraine

nmelman1004@...
 

I am trying to find information on a shtetl that has disappeard. Located
in the Volhyn Gubernia, not far >from Belarus and Poland was a small village
called KIPEL or KUPEL. This was an area that changed hands between Polish,
Russian and Ukrainian occupation over the centuries. I would appreciate
any information that anyone may have on the history, location, and names
of inhabitants form that town.

Neil Melman


Seeking BURDMAN from Sokiryany in Brazil #general

Vladimir Sinayuk <sinayukv@...>
 

Dear Jewish Gen,

Thanks to some inspired guidance >from members of the Latin America SIG,
I was able to confirm that my great-uncle Menache BURDMAN did in fact
move to Brazil >from Sokiryany, Bessarabia (Romania in those days). I
got the following information >from the Jewish Burial Society of Sao
Paulo:

Deceased: Menache BURDMAN
Date of Death: March 19, 1960
Father: Israel
Mother: Chaja
Origin: Rumania
Wife: Sara
Children: Jaime, Valdemar, Adolfo and Clara.
He is buried in the Israelita Cemetery of Butanta, Sao Paulo in Block
34, Grave 97, Sector G.

Now, the question is how to track down his descendents based upon this
information. I was able to find several people with the surname
BURDMANN through Sao Paolo white pages on-line, but none of the first
names matched. However, I have none of the names of Menache's
grandchildren. I would appreciate any and all advice on how to get more
information on the family above. Also, would anyone happen to know how
to track down an immigration record >from Brazil?

Thanks,
Vlad

Vladimir Sinayuk | Bronx, NY | Email: sinayukv@yahoo.com | Seeking:

BANET >from Pabianice | BERMAN >from Cincinnati | BETIS >from Balta |
BRONFMAN >from Sokiryany | BURDMAN >from Sao Paulo| BURDMAN >from Chernovtsy |
BURDMAN >from Sokiryany | CHERNYAK >from Chernovtsy | DOSICK >from Zhitomir |
GORBACH >from Chernovtsy | HOCHBAUM >from Buenos Aires | JOSEPH >from Karlsruhe |
LERNER >from Chernovtsy | ROISMAN >from Sokiryany | SCHWAGER >from Bucuresti |
SHECHTER >from Falesti | SINAYUK >from Chernovtsy | SINAYUK >from Zhitomir |


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking BURDMAN from Sokiryany in Brazil #general

Vladimir Sinayuk <sinayukv@...>
 

Dear Jewish Gen,

Thanks to some inspired guidance >from members of the Latin America SIG,
I was able to confirm that my great-uncle Menache BURDMAN did in fact
move to Brazil >from Sokiryany, Bessarabia (Romania in those days). I
got the following information >from the Jewish Burial Society of Sao
Paulo:

Deceased: Menache BURDMAN
Date of Death: March 19, 1960
Father: Israel
Mother: Chaja
Origin: Rumania
Wife: Sara
Children: Jaime, Valdemar, Adolfo and Clara.
He is buried in the Israelita Cemetery of Butanta, Sao Paulo in Block
34, Grave 97, Sector G.

Now, the question is how to track down his descendents based upon this
information. I was able to find several people with the surname
BURDMANN through Sao Paolo white pages on-line, but none of the first
names matched. However, I have none of the names of Menache's
grandchildren. I would appreciate any and all advice on how to get more
information on the family above. Also, would anyone happen to know how
to track down an immigration record >from Brazil?

Thanks,
Vlad

Vladimir Sinayuk | Bronx, NY | Email: sinayukv@yahoo.com | Seeking:

BANET >from Pabianice | BERMAN >from Cincinnati | BETIS >from Balta |
BRONFMAN >from Sokiryany | BURDMAN >from Sao Paulo| BURDMAN >from Chernovtsy |
BURDMAN >from Sokiryany | CHERNYAK >from Chernovtsy | DOSICK >from Zhitomir |
GORBACH >from Chernovtsy | HOCHBAUM >from Buenos Aires | JOSEPH >from Karlsruhe |
LERNER >from Chernovtsy | ROISMAN >from Sokiryany | SCHWAGER >from Bucuresti |
SHECHTER >from Falesti | SINAYUK >from Chernovtsy | SINAYUK >from Zhitomir |


Fw: Warsaw marriage contract 1876 #warsaw #poland

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

We just got a similar document >from 1874-1875. I think I can answer the
question about the numbers out of context. The numbers seem to be house
numbers on one specific road or quarter and are the addesses of the various
witnesses and the families of the bride and groom. The name of quarter in
our document was Powazkow and we were able to find the road by that name
using Google.

Thanks to this wonderful project, my husband has found his great
grandparents marriage registry, and through that the names of all four of
his great great grandparents >from his grandmother's side and even the maiden
names of these two great great grandmothers.

Rose Feldman
Shalom and see you in Jerusalem!
The 24th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
July 4-9, 2004
www.jewishgen.org/jerusalem2004


Warszawa Research Group #Warsaw #Poland Fw: Warsaw marriage contract 1876 #warsaw #poland

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

We just got a similar document >from 1874-1875. I think I can answer the
question about the numbers out of context. The numbers seem to be house
numbers on one specific road or quarter and are the addesses of the various
witnesses and the families of the bride and groom. The name of quarter in
our document was Powazkow and we were able to find the road by that name
using Google.

Thanks to this wonderful project, my husband has found his great
grandparents marriage registry, and through that the names of all four of
his great great grandparents >from his grandmother's side and even the maiden
names of these two great great grandmothers.

Rose Feldman
Shalom and see you in Jerusalem!
The 24th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
July 4-9, 2004
www.jewishgen.org/jerusalem2004


Re: Wher is Vyzgorod or Vyshgorodok #general

Alexander Sharon
 

"Miky Skulsky" wrote

Dear Genners,

My great grand mother Sluva Sprecher, lived in Kozin in Volhynia Gubernia.
An acquaintance of her, >from the place she was born immigrated to Canada. In
the Jewish Post (a weekly paper) was a write-up of the Village / Town were
the family of this acquaintance came from, written by her grandson, he calls
it "Vishgorod in Ukraine".
Sluva had a sister Rachel, who was murdered in the Holocaust. In the pages
of testimony written by her son and daughter, they call her place of birth
Vishgorodok or Vishgorodek.

According to Ellis Island records:
Benjamin SPRECHER and his son Markus >from Vysygorow arrived on Jan 13, 1904,
Sluwe SPRECHER >from Vyzgord arrived on May 14, 1904,
Rachil SPRECHER >from Wisgorod arrived on 10 Dec, 1903,
all came to their son/brother Moses Sprecher, 26 Norfolk St. New York.

To add to the similarity of the names in these two families, Sluva's first
son was named Moshe.
In the JewishGen ShtetlSeeker there is both Vyshgorod, 10 miles >from Kiev,
and Vyshgorodok, 200 miles >from there - Next to Kremenets - in the area
where the family was living.

I am seeking advise of what type of conclusions can I draw, or any
information that will help me trace the family that came to New York.

Miky Skulsky

Hi Miky,

Researched by you town is currently known as Vyshgorodok, Ukraine. Other
known (an "alternative" names) for this Jewish shttel are: Wyzgrodek,
Vishegrodek, Vishogrudek, Vizhgorodok, Wyszogrodek, Wyzgrodek.

In several Slavic languages words: "grod", "gro'd", "gorod" identify a
"town", where "grodek", "gro'dek" or "gorodok" identify a "small town" or a
"township".
This is the main reason for a confusion between the towns identification
similarity.

Town name "Vyshgorodok" literally means "a township on the hill".

There are several reasons to confirm that "your" shtetl is indeed
Vyshgorodok near Lanivtsi (Polish: Lanowce) in Wolynia region, not the
Vyshgorod near Kiev.

You might check listings in 1929 Poland Business directory for Wyzgro'dek
at:

http://data.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/1929/loadtop.htm?2235

and for Kozin at:

http://data.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/1929/loadtop.htm?2175

B'hatzlaha,

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Canada


Galicia/Vohlyn/Podolia #general

ben-ari <yrcdi@...>
 

In a book about our family roots it is refered that they were from
"Galicia". On the other hand I have received replies to my previous messages
that the towns where my ancestors came from-Skalat, Starokonstantine,
Ostrog-were in Podolia or Vohlyn and not in Galicia.
Some 250-300 years ago they were also rabbis in Kremenetz.

Were Podolia and/or Vohlyn ever part of Galicia or did the family consider
themselves as Galicianerim, because of their strong Chassidic
indentification?

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Wher is Vyzgorod or Vyshgorodok #general

Alexander Sharon
 

"Miky Skulsky" wrote

Dear Genners,

My great grand mother Sluva Sprecher, lived in Kozin in Volhynia Gubernia.
An acquaintance of her, >from the place she was born immigrated to Canada. In
the Jewish Post (a weekly paper) was a write-up of the Village / Town were
the family of this acquaintance came from, written by her grandson, he calls
it "Vishgorod in Ukraine".
Sluva had a sister Rachel, who was murdered in the Holocaust. In the pages
of testimony written by her son and daughter, they call her place of birth
Vishgorodok or Vishgorodek.

According to Ellis Island records:
Benjamin SPRECHER and his son Markus >from Vysygorow arrived on Jan 13, 1904,
Sluwe SPRECHER >from Vyzgord arrived on May 14, 1904,
Rachil SPRECHER >from Wisgorod arrived on 10 Dec, 1903,
all came to their son/brother Moses Sprecher, 26 Norfolk St. New York.

To add to the similarity of the names in these two families, Sluva's first
son was named Moshe.
In the JewishGen ShtetlSeeker there is both Vyshgorod, 10 miles >from Kiev,
and Vyshgorodok, 200 miles >from there - Next to Kremenets - in the area
where the family was living.

I am seeking advise of what type of conclusions can I draw, or any
information that will help me trace the family that came to New York.

Miky Skulsky

Hi Miky,

Researched by you town is currently known as Vyshgorodok, Ukraine. Other
known (an "alternative" names) for this Jewish shttel are: Wyzgrodek,
Vishegrodek, Vishogrudek, Vizhgorodok, Wyszogrodek, Wyzgrodek.

In several Slavic languages words: "grod", "gro'd", "gorod" identify a
"town", where "grodek", "gro'dek" or "gorodok" identify a "small town" or a
"township".
This is the main reason for a confusion between the towns identification
similarity.

Town name "Vyshgorodok" literally means "a township on the hill".

There are several reasons to confirm that "your" shtetl is indeed
Vyshgorodok near Lanivtsi (Polish: Lanowce) in Wolynia region, not the
Vyshgorod near Kiev.

You might check listings in 1929 Poland Business directory for Wyzgro'dek
at:

http://data.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/1929/loadtop.htm?2235

and for Kozin at:

http://data.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/1929/loadtop.htm?2175

B'hatzlaha,

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Canada


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Galicia/Vohlyn/Podolia #general

ben-ari <yrcdi@...>
 

In a book about our family roots it is refered that they were from
"Galicia". On the other hand I have received replies to my previous messages
that the towns where my ancestors came from-Skalat, Starokonstantine,
Ostrog-were in Podolia or Vohlyn and not in Galicia.
Some 250-300 years ago they were also rabbis in Kremenetz.

Were Podolia and/or Vohlyn ever part of Galicia or did the family consider
themselves as Galicianerim, because of their strong Chassidic
indentification?

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel


JGSCT rescheduled program #general

Arthur Meyers <marciarthur@...>
 

Greetings,
The Jewish Genealogical Society of Connecticut has rescheduled our program
from January. JGSCT will meeting on Sunday, March 21,2004 at 2:00 p.m. The
meeting will be held at Godfrey Library in Middletown.
Jesse Nasta, a researcher and writer will speak on "Beyond the Obituary: Why
Every Genealogist should Take a Closer Look at Newspapers."
For further information contact Marcia Meyers at marciarthur@msn.com

Thank you,
Marcia Meyers
Vice President JGSCT


Starokonstantine and geography #general

ben-ari <yrcdi@...>
 

Firstly I would like to thank all of those who replied to my question
regarding Starokonstantine.

Secondly, is there a website which tells you which town was in which area at
which time in history.

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGSCT rescheduled program #general

Arthur Meyers <marciarthur@...>
 

Greetings,
The Jewish Genealogical Society of Connecticut has rescheduled our program
from January. JGSCT will meeting on Sunday, March 21,2004 at 2:00 p.m. The
meeting will be held at Godfrey Library in Middletown.
Jesse Nasta, a researcher and writer will speak on "Beyond the Obituary: Why
Every Genealogist should Take a Closer Look at Newspapers."
For further information contact Marcia Meyers at marciarthur@msn.com

Thank you,
Marcia Meyers
Vice President JGSCT


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Starokonstantine and geography #general

ben-ari <yrcdi@...>
 

Firstly I would like to thank all of those who replied to my question
regarding Starokonstantine.

Secondly, is there a website which tells you which town was in which area at
which time in history.

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel


Searching For Nellie Frieda ZACHTRAIGER FISHMAN #general

West24th <west24th@...>
 

I'm hitting a roadblock trying to find the death record or burial site for
Nellie Frieda FISHMAN who was born 1865 in Warsaw Poland with the maiden name
of ZACHTRAIGER. She was the widow of Samuel FISHMAN & was listed on the 1920 &
1930 Census as residing in Brooklyn NY at the time with her daughter Bessie
FISHMAN born 1885 in Warsaw. Have checked out the New York death index for both
these women for all boroughs >from 1930 to present & neither could be located.
Any living relatives do not have any recollections of their deaths & I have run
out of places to check for them. If there are any suggestrions or anybody
familiar with these women's names please write as any information or leads are
appreciated. Thank You,

Howard Sedlitz, New York
Also researching in Poland:
SEIDLECKI/SEDLETSKI, FRYMORGEN, STEINER (>from Bedzin), BOROWSKI


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching For Nellie Frieda ZACHTRAIGER FISHMAN #general

West24th <west24th@...>
 

I'm hitting a roadblock trying to find the death record or burial site for
Nellie Frieda FISHMAN who was born 1865 in Warsaw Poland with the maiden name
of ZACHTRAIGER. She was the widow of Samuel FISHMAN & was listed on the 1920 &
1930 Census as residing in Brooklyn NY at the time with her daughter Bessie
FISHMAN born 1885 in Warsaw. Have checked out the New York death index for both
these women for all boroughs >from 1930 to present & neither could be located.
Any living relatives do not have any recollections of their deaths & I have run
out of places to check for them. If there are any suggestrions or anybody
familiar with these women's names please write as any information or leads are
appreciated. Thank You,

Howard Sedlitz, New York
Also researching in Poland:
SEIDLECKI/SEDLETSKI, FRYMORGEN, STEINER (>from Bedzin), BOROWSKI