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JGSofMI Program - Sunday, April 11th #general

Marc D. Manson <mdmcousa@...>
 

Sunday, April 11, 2004 at 2:00 pm
Adat Shalom Synagogue
(Middlebelt Rd. between 13 Mile & Northwestern)

The JGS of Michigan would like you to join us as our members,
Barbara and Gerald Cook, tell us what they found on their
recent trip to the Ukraine. Jerry traveled to the small
villages of Zhivotiv, Tetiev, and Zashkiv where he
went to the remains of Jewish cemeteries, to the old Jewish
sections and visited with some of the remaining Jews living
there today. Then Barbara will take us with her to Kiev,
where she met with Jewish college students, Hillel
activists and Zionist Youth Groups as a delegate >from
Federation's Israel and Overseas Committee. She worked with
Meals on Wheels and other Senior Citizens
programs on behalf of Federation to help the Jewish community there.
Hear about the extreme contrasts between the farming
communities that haven't changed much since our grandparents
left and the modern city of Kiev. Their story and
photos are an adventure that shouldn't be missed!

Members and Guests are welcome to this exciting event.

Members of JGS, JHS or Adat Shalom Synagogue - Free
Guests $5

Marc D. Manson
JGS of Michigan
MAN'SKIJ > MANSON (Volkovysk; Slonim; NY NY; Detroit MI; Buhl MN)
WAGNER (Drogobych, Austria; South Bend, IN; Toledo, OH)
MAC > MATZ (Skaryszew, Radom, Poland)
POMERANTZ (Brest-Litovsk, Belarus)
TURUFF > TUREFF (Russia; New York) BROCK (New York)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGSofMI Program - Sunday, April 11th #general

Marc D. Manson <mdmcousa@...>
 

Sunday, April 11, 2004 at 2:00 pm
Adat Shalom Synagogue
(Middlebelt Rd. between 13 Mile & Northwestern)

The JGS of Michigan would like you to join us as our members,
Barbara and Gerald Cook, tell us what they found on their
recent trip to the Ukraine. Jerry traveled to the small
villages of Zhivotiv, Tetiev, and Zashkiv where he
went to the remains of Jewish cemeteries, to the old Jewish
sections and visited with some of the remaining Jews living
there today. Then Barbara will take us with her to Kiev,
where she met with Jewish college students, Hillel
activists and Zionist Youth Groups as a delegate >from
Federation's Israel and Overseas Committee. She worked with
Meals on Wheels and other Senior Citizens
programs on behalf of Federation to help the Jewish community there.
Hear about the extreme contrasts between the farming
communities that haven't changed much since our grandparents
left and the modern city of Kiev. Their story and
photos are an adventure that shouldn't be missed!

Members and Guests are welcome to this exciting event.

Members of JGS, JHS or Adat Shalom Synagogue - Free
Guests $5

Marc D. Manson
JGS of Michigan
MAN'SKIJ > MANSON (Volkovysk; Slonim; NY NY; Detroit MI; Buhl MN)
WAGNER (Drogobych, Austria; South Bend, IN; Toledo, OH)
MAC > MATZ (Skaryszew, Radom, Poland)
POMERANTZ (Brest-Litovsk, Belarus)
TURUFF > TUREFF (Russia; New York) BROCK (New York)


Re: Seeking Zonenberg & Kujawski descendants: U.S. & Belgium #general

Naidia Woolf <rnwoolf@...>
 

I just learned that the two sisters of my paternal grandfather
(who came >from the environs of Lodz, Poland) emigrated to the
U.S. and Belgium. (Don't know which of the two sisters went
to which country, however.) My grandfather's name was Simon Wolf
(originally known as Szija Wolf KUJAWSKI). Since grandpa left
Poland for England in the mid-1890's, I'm assuming that his
2 sisters also left around the turn of the 20th century.
(This is purely conjecture on my part, however.)

The older of the 2 sisters, named Kaza Jenta (or) Jenwa
KUJAWSKA was born in Lodz in 1874. In 1897 (at age 23) she
married a Michail ZONENBERG age 27 (again, in Lodz).

The younger of the 2 sisters, named Trajdla Ryfka (KUJAWSKA)
was born in Lodz in 1878. (I have no record of her marrying
-- i.e., in Lodz.)

I have copies of the relevant birth and (the one marriage) entries.
Obviously both of the sisters must be long deceased.
I am now seeking the (hopefully living) descendants of
Michail and Kaza Jenta (nee KUJAWSKA) ZONENBERG and of Trajdla Ryfka
KUJAWSKA. I should add that although I have tried to locate
descendants of my KUJAWSKI ancestors (using many if not all
of the resources available) but so far have been unsuccessful.
My father traveled around Poland after the 2nd world war
(hoping to find surviving relatives) but found none.

If anyone can help me find these members of my family --
in the U.S. Belgium, or elsewhere, please get in touch.

Please respond privately.

Naidia Woolf
San Francisco, CA
formerly >from Birmingham, England
rnwoolf@...

RESEARCHING:
KUJAWSKI (Szija Wolf and others): Lodz, Poland
ISAACS (family of Solomon & Sarah): Poland/England
MORRIS: Poland/England
DROZDIASZ (or variants): Karczew, Poland/Preston, England
SAFIRSTEIN (or variant): Karczew, Poland/Preston, England
SHORN (Morris & Yetta): Poland?/London, England


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Seeking Zonenberg & Kujawski descendants: U.S. & Belgium #general

Naidia Woolf <rnwoolf@...>
 

I just learned that the two sisters of my paternal grandfather
(who came >from the environs of Lodz, Poland) emigrated to the
U.S. and Belgium. (Don't know which of the two sisters went
to which country, however.) My grandfather's name was Simon Wolf
(originally known as Szija Wolf KUJAWSKI). Since grandpa left
Poland for England in the mid-1890's, I'm assuming that his
2 sisters also left around the turn of the 20th century.
(This is purely conjecture on my part, however.)

The older of the 2 sisters, named Kaza Jenta (or) Jenwa
KUJAWSKA was born in Lodz in 1874. In 1897 (at age 23) she
married a Michail ZONENBERG age 27 (again, in Lodz).

The younger of the 2 sisters, named Trajdla Ryfka (KUJAWSKA)
was born in Lodz in 1878. (I have no record of her marrying
-- i.e., in Lodz.)

I have copies of the relevant birth and (the one marriage) entries.
Obviously both of the sisters must be long deceased.
I am now seeking the (hopefully living) descendants of
Michail and Kaza Jenta (nee KUJAWSKA) ZONENBERG and of Trajdla Ryfka
KUJAWSKA. I should add that although I have tried to locate
descendants of my KUJAWSKI ancestors (using many if not all
of the resources available) but so far have been unsuccessful.
My father traveled around Poland after the 2nd world war
(hoping to find surviving relatives) but found none.

If anyone can help me find these members of my family --
in the U.S. Belgium, or elsewhere, please get in touch.

Please respond privately.

Naidia Woolf
San Francisco, CA
formerly >from Birmingham, England
rnwoolf@...

RESEARCHING:
KUJAWSKI (Szija Wolf and others): Lodz, Poland
ISAACS (family of Solomon & Sarah): Poland/England
MORRIS: Poland/England
DROZDIASZ (or variants): Karczew, Poland/Preston, England
SAFIRSTEIN (or variant): Karczew, Poland/Preston, England
SHORN (Morris & Yetta): Poland?/London, England


Re: Jewish Graves in Vienna - question #general

Tamar <leizerov@...>
 

Rony, thank you .
I found family members in the Zentralfriedhof I. Tor Cemetery.
can anyone tell me

1. where is this cemetery.
2. who do i get more information


Thank you.
Tamar Leizerowitz
Herzlia, Istael

Subject: Re: Jewish Graves in Vienna
From: Rony <golanron@...>
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 00:31:11 +0200
X-Message-Number: 12

Although Asher asked for private replies, the following
link may be of interest for others:

http://friedhof.ikg-wien.at/search.asp?lang=en

You'll be able to search 153,623 records of Jewish graves
in Austria, among them Vienna cemeteries, of people
deceased prior to May 5, 1945.

Rony Golan
Ramat Hasharon, Israel
--


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Jewish Graves in Vienna - question #general

Tamar <leizerov@...>
 

Rony, thank you .
I found family members in the Zentralfriedhof I. Tor Cemetery.
can anyone tell me

1. where is this cemetery.
2. who do i get more information


Thank you.
Tamar Leizerowitz
Herzlia, Istael

Subject: Re: Jewish Graves in Vienna
From: Rony <golanron@...>
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 00:31:11 +0200
X-Message-Number: 12

Although Asher asked for private replies, the following
link may be of interest for others:

http://friedhof.ikg-wien.at/search.asp?lang=en

You'll be able to search 153,623 records of Jewish graves
in Austria, among them Vienna cemeteries, of people
deceased prior to May 5, 1945.

Rony Golan
Ramat Hasharon, Israel
--


1900 Census - 195 Henry Street NYC #general

A. E. Jordan
 

I am trying to figure out who was living at 195 Henry Street,
Manhattan, New York City in 1900. Can anyone help me figure out
the ED number so I can find it in the Census?

I found a death certificate for Bernard MINDLIN and he died in
1902 living at 195 Henry Street. But when I tried various
commercial sites and searched the 1900 Census it does not
find Bernard Mindlin in the index. Hence the idea to see if
he is on the actually Census but was skipped by the
various indexes.

Thanks if you can offer up the approrpiate ED number as it
will save me a lot of search time.

Allan Jordan


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 1900 Census - 195 Henry Street NYC #general

A. E. Jordan
 

I am trying to figure out who was living at 195 Henry Street,
Manhattan, New York City in 1900. Can anyone help me figure out
the ED number so I can find it in the Census?

I found a death certificate for Bernard MINDLIN and he died in
1902 living at 195 Henry Street. But when I tried various
commercial sites and searched the 1900 Census it does not
find Bernard Mindlin in the index. Hence the idea to see if
he is on the actually Census but was skipped by the
various indexes.

Thanks if you can offer up the approrpiate ED number as it
will save me a lot of search time.

Allan Jordan


Looking for Bubbles Kalin ? New Jersey #general

Merv & Naomi Barnett
 

I'm trying to locate a lady by the name of Bubbles Kalin.
Her last known address (which may be current, but I'm
not certain) is South Orange, New Jersey. If anyone
can help be I'd be very grateful.

Many thanks.

Naomi Barnett
Melbourne, Australia

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for Bubbles Kalin ? New Jersey #general

Merv & Naomi Barnett
 

I'm trying to locate a lady by the name of Bubbles Kalin.
Her last known address (which may be current, but I'm
not certain) is South Orange, New Jersey. If anyone
can help be I'd be very grateful.

Many thanks.

Naomi Barnett
Melbourne, Australia

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately


Noordam ---Sailing 1916 from Rotterdam #general

RoniKrinsky <ronikrinsky@...>
 

I recently found out my grandmother and my father sailed on
Ocober 16th,1916,>from Rotterdam on the Noordam. Does anyone
know what the conditions were like on the ship or
have any pictures?

Does anyone have relatives that might have been
on that ship?

Roni Krinsky
Queens,NY
Email: RoniKrinsky@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Noordam ---Sailing 1916 from Rotterdam #general

RoniKrinsky <ronikrinsky@...>
 

I recently found out my grandmother and my father sailed on
Ocober 16th,1916,>from Rotterdam on the Noordam. Does anyone
know what the conditions were like on the ship or
have any pictures?

Does anyone have relatives that might have been
on that ship?

Roni Krinsky
Queens,NY
Email: RoniKrinsky@...


Re: NYC Barge Office records #belarus

Michael Herzlich
 

My grandfather immigrated to NYC in 1891, the image
was online at Ancestry.com (an additional paid
subscription). It was also recorded at the point of
departure (Hamburg web site).

Michael Herzlich
Boca Raton, FL

HERZLICH, POLLACK, TREIBER, HELFAND, WACHTELBERG
Przemysl, Sambor, Slutsk


Barge Office Records #belarus

Ilene Murray <ilenemurray@...>
 

Laura Katz asked about Barge Office Records >from 1890-92.

Laura, the records >from the Barge Office were U. S. Customs Lists and
then Immigration Passenger Lists. The "new" Immigration forms really
were not in widespread use till 1893, although the precursor to the INS,
the Dept. of Immigration, began in 1891. These forms were turned over to
the federal government and microfilmed, just as the later Immigration
Passenger Lists were, and copies are widely available.

As you know, 1890 and 1891 are part of the port of New York's unindexed
years. You might check periodically at Ancestry.com, since they are in
the process of indexing those years online. If you don't have a
subscription, check with your local library.

As for the "Russians to America" series, they, too, are widely available
at libraries with genealogical departments. The first few volumes in the
series were in book form. They are a useful tool, but you must remember
that you are looking at names that were indexed by people who were not
familiar with YOUR family and YOUR spelling.

I did find my great-grandfather in one volume and it DID save me a lot
of searching, BUT I only found him in the book after I had located him
on a ship out of Hamburg. That gave me an approximate date of arrival in
New York and a boat. When I found him in the book, his name was spelled
so strangely that I knew I never would have recognized it. To complicate
things, he must have parroted the response of whoever was in front of
him because he gave his city of origin as Hamburg and his occupation as
"painter," just as the young man before him did. Both pieces of
information were incorrect for my great-grandfather.

I guess that's a long way of saying that it's certainly worth looking in
the books or on the CDs, but if you don't find your person, don't assume
he wasn't there.

(As I looked at your husband's ancestor's name again, I wondered if you
have thought to look for him as "Grunberg"? I have cousins named
Greenbaum, and on their manifests, they are "Grunbaum.")

Hope this is helpful.

Ilene Kanfer Murray
St. Louis, Missouri

Searching: ZEITLIN in Minsk; WEISBERG in Vitebsk


mamtze #belarus

Botwinick@...
 

My ggm >from Odessa married in Minsk.
How would she have a Hungarian nickname for Margaret?=Mamtze

Milton E. Botwinick
botwinick@...
Phila., PA USA


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: NYC Barge Office records #belarus

Michael Herzlich
 

My grandfather immigrated to NYC in 1891, the image
was online at Ancestry.com (an additional paid
subscription). It was also recorded at the point of
departure (Hamburg web site).

Michael Herzlich
Boca Raton, FL

HERZLICH, POLLACK, TREIBER, HELFAND, WACHTELBERG
Przemysl, Sambor, Slutsk


Belarus SIG #Belarus Barge Office Records #belarus

Ilene Murray <ilenemurray@...>
 

Laura Katz asked about Barge Office Records >from 1890-92.

Laura, the records >from the Barge Office were U. S. Customs Lists and
then Immigration Passenger Lists. The "new" Immigration forms really
were not in widespread use till 1893, although the precursor to the INS,
the Dept. of Immigration, began in 1891. These forms were turned over to
the federal government and microfilmed, just as the later Immigration
Passenger Lists were, and copies are widely available.

As you know, 1890 and 1891 are part of the port of New York's unindexed
years. You might check periodically at Ancestry.com, since they are in
the process of indexing those years online. If you don't have a
subscription, check with your local library.

As for the "Russians to America" series, they, too, are widely available
at libraries with genealogical departments. The first few volumes in the
series were in book form. They are a useful tool, but you must remember
that you are looking at names that were indexed by people who were not
familiar with YOUR family and YOUR spelling.

I did find my great-grandfather in one volume and it DID save me a lot
of searching, BUT I only found him in the book after I had located him
on a ship out of Hamburg. That gave me an approximate date of arrival in
New York and a boat. When I found him in the book, his name was spelled
so strangely that I knew I never would have recognized it. To complicate
things, he must have parroted the response of whoever was in front of
him because he gave his city of origin as Hamburg and his occupation as
"painter," just as the young man before him did. Both pieces of
information were incorrect for my great-grandfather.

I guess that's a long way of saying that it's certainly worth looking in
the books or on the CDs, but if you don't find your person, don't assume
he wasn't there.

(As I looked at your husband's ancestor's name again, I wondered if you
have thought to look for him as "Grunberg"? I have cousins named
Greenbaum, and on their manifests, they are "Grunbaum.")

Hope this is helpful.

Ilene Kanfer Murray
St. Louis, Missouri

Searching: ZEITLIN in Minsk; WEISBERG in Vitebsk


Belarus SIG #Belarus mamtze #belarus

Botwinick@...
 

My ggm >from Odessa married in Minsk.
How would she have a Hungarian nickname for Margaret?=Mamtze

Milton E. Botwinick
botwinick@...
Phila., PA USA


Searching for the family of Nina LEVY from England #general

Daniel Gee <DanielGee@...>
 

Dear Genners,
If you have the name LEVY in your family files,
please can you help? Can you check your notes to see if any
of the following names appear...
I am looking for the daughters of Alf and Jessie Levy;
Nina, Norma & Barbara.
The siblings would have been born in the mid to late
1930s in London, so they would now be in their mid 60s.
The problem, is that their surnames will have changed
if they married.
Any of advice would be much appreciated.
Happy Pesach!
Daniel Gleek in London


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching for the family of Nina LEVY from England #general

Daniel Gee <DanielGee@...>
 

Dear Genners,
If you have the name LEVY in your family files,
please can you help? Can you check your notes to see if any
of the following names appear...
I am looking for the daughters of Alf and Jessie Levy;
Nina, Norma & Barbara.
The siblings would have been born in the mid to late
1930s in London, so they would now be in their mid 60s.
The problem, is that their surnames will have changed
if they married.
Any of advice would be much appreciated.
Happy Pesach!
Daniel Gleek in London