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Re: 1600's Firenze ITALY #general

Nardo Bonomi
 

Dear Israel and others,

Few resources survived about the Jews of Florence
of the 17th century: The oldest are:
1) six files "Acts and Decrees" (Atti e Decreti) years 1652-1722
2) seven files "Statements" (Comparse) years 1620-1749
3) eight files (Decreti, Sentenze) years 1720-1800
These registers are sored in the collection "Nazione Israelitica" at the
National Archive of Florence (Archivio di Stato di Firenze).

For genearal information on Italian resources for Jewish
genealogy you can
visit my temporary web page (
http://it.geocities.com/cittadinanzafattiva/jewit.html)
with part of the speech I gave in Jerusalem

Sincerely
Nardo Bonomi
Greve in Ch. - Firenze - Italy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Israel P" <IsraelP@pikholz.org>
To: "JewishGen Discussion Group" <jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 9:15 PM
Subject: 1600's Firenze ITALY

A neighbor of mine knows that his ancestor Salman LEVI (at least that what
he
assumes his surname was) moved >from Italy to Holland in about 1625, where
the
took the surname d'ITALIE. Family tradition has it that they lived in
Firenze.

Does anyone know anything about Jewish records in Firenze in the early
1600's?
I understand that leading up to that time there were maybe a hundred
Jewish
families in the city and I have no idea if there were more than one LEVI.

Israel Pickholtz


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: 1600's Firenze ITALY #general

Nardo Bonomi
 

Dear Israel and others,

Few resources survived about the Jews of Florence
of the 17th century: The oldest are:
1) six files "Acts and Decrees" (Atti e Decreti) years 1652-1722
2) seven files "Statements" (Comparse) years 1620-1749
3) eight files (Decreti, Sentenze) years 1720-1800
These registers are sored in the collection "Nazione Israelitica" at the
National Archive of Florence (Archivio di Stato di Firenze).

For genearal information on Italian resources for Jewish
genealogy you can
visit my temporary web page (
http://it.geocities.com/cittadinanzafattiva/jewit.html)
with part of the speech I gave in Jerusalem

Sincerely
Nardo Bonomi
Greve in Ch. - Firenze - Italy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Israel P" <IsraelP@pikholz.org>
To: "JewishGen Discussion Group" <jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 9:15 PM
Subject: 1600's Firenze ITALY

A neighbor of mine knows that his ancestor Salman LEVI (at least that what
he
assumes his surname was) moved >from Italy to Holland in about 1625, where
the
took the surname d'ITALIE. Family tradition has it that they lived in
Firenze.

Does anyone know anything about Jewish records in Firenze in the early
1600's?
I understand that leading up to that time there were maybe a hundred
Jewish
families in the city and I have no idea if there were more than one LEVI.

Israel Pickholtz


bounced e-mail #general

Edward Andelman <eandelman2@...>
 

Dear Genners,
an e-mail I sent to Peter Haas has bounced.
Does anyone know his current address?

Thanks for your help,

Jeanne Blitzer Andelman
eandelman2@earthlink.net
RESEARCHING:
Mielnitza-Mielnica,Galicia, now Mel'nitza Podolskay,
Ukraine
REITER-BLITZER-ZUKER-REINSTEIN
Tarnopol, Galicia, nowTerrnopil, Ukraine-FLEISCHMANN-REITER
Kudrynce, Galicia/Bukovina, nowKudrintsy, Ukraine:
BLITZER-REINSTEIN-ZUKER

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen bounced e-mail #general

Edward Andelman <eandelman2@...>
 

Dear Genners,
an e-mail I sent to Peter Haas has bounced.
Does anyone know his current address?

Thanks for your help,

Jeanne Blitzer Andelman
eandelman2@earthlink.net
RESEARCHING:
Mielnitza-Mielnica,Galicia, now Mel'nitza Podolskay,
Ukraine
REITER-BLITZER-ZUKER-REINSTEIN
Tarnopol, Galicia, nowTerrnopil, Ukraine-FLEISCHMANN-REITER
Kudrynce, Galicia/Bukovina, nowKudrintsy, Ukraine:
BLITZER-REINSTEIN-ZUKER

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately


The Seer of Lublin #rabbinic

Lawrence Litwin <theslice@...>
 

Dear Ravsig members.

I am looking for any information regarding "The Seer of Lublin" Jacob
Issac HUROWITZ. He wrote some pieces on the Devrie Emet and the Zot
Zickaron. I am also looking for a oil painting of him if there is one
around. My grandfather is a decendant of The Seer himself, a great
great grandson so any information would help.

Please email me at theslice@sympatico.ca

Thanking you in advance.

Lawrence Litwin

Shalom


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic The Seer of Lublin #rabbinic

Lawrence Litwin <theslice@...>
 

Dear Ravsig members.

I am looking for any information regarding "The Seer of Lublin" Jacob
Issac HUROWITZ. He wrote some pieces on the Devrie Emet and the Zot
Zickaron. I am also looking for a oil painting of him if there is one
around. My grandfather is a decendant of The Seer himself, a great
great grandson so any information would help.

Please email me at theslice@sympatico.ca

Thanking you in advance.

Lawrence Litwin

Shalom


Relatives of Herman Goliger in Israel #general

JELORRAINE
 

Dear Genners, My mother in laws' brother was >from what I understand a victim of
the Holocost.He Herman Goliger originally was >from Petlikowce, Galicia. His
daughter moved to Israel and died there. Possibly in Haifa. She was married I
don't know her marriage name. I would like to know if there were any children
of this marriage and perhaps someone may recognize the situation. Thanks for
any help you can give me. Jewel Glatzer jelorraine @aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Relatives of Herman Goliger in Israel #general

JELORRAINE
 

Dear Genners, My mother in laws' brother was >from what I understand a victim of
the Holocost.He Herman Goliger originally was >from Petlikowce, Galicia. His
daughter moved to Israel and died there. Possibly in Haifa. She was married I
don't know her marriage name. I would like to know if there were any children
of this marriage and perhaps someone may recognize the situation. Thanks for
any help you can give me. Jewel Glatzer jelorraine @aol.com


Searching: FINE #general

Mountain Club Landlord <mclub_apts@...>
 

Hello.

I am wondering if there is a singular website for the FINE surname.
Also, how can I get info on someone comming to Ellis Island/NYC in the
1800's as Ellis Island's website only lists data >from 1892?

Thanks.

Cindy Rosengarten

RESEARCHING:

Morris FINE b.1795 approx KOHANIM. Minsk or Vilana
origin says mother in law


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: FINE #general

Mountain Club Landlord <mclub_apts@...>
 

Hello.

I am wondering if there is a singular website for the FINE surname.
Also, how can I get info on someone comming to Ellis Island/NYC in the
1800's as Ellis Island's website only lists data >from 1892?

Thanks.

Cindy Rosengarten

RESEARCHING:

Morris FINE b.1795 approx KOHANIM. Minsk or Vilana
origin says mother in law


Re: Smolensk (belarus digest: August 08, 2004) #belarus

NFatouros@...
 

In a message dated 8/9/04 Alezandra Alznauer (petealznauer@earthlink.net)
writes:

Can anyone explain to me why Smolensk is listed in the Shtetls of
Belarus list although it actually appears to have been outside of The
Pale of Settlement on the maps I've seen? It is now in Russia, of
course, and I am trying to track down a Belarussian Jewish HOSENPUD
(GOSENPUD) family that came >from Smolensk.

I have also heard that Jews did not actually live in Smolensk but rather
outside it in shtetls. Is this true? Where might I find out the names
of these shtetls?

How does one go about researching one's ancestors in present-day Russia?
Are they any particular books I should read or sites I should visit?>>


The moderator rightly urged that people trying to find their ancestral
places and where they were located should consult Jewishgen's Shtetl Seeker. This
resource is useful for those who lack paper maps and atlases and who cannot
readily visit a library or bookstoroe to look at maps and atlases. Names of th
e shtetls or towns within the Smolensk oblast can be found by finding the
map coordinates for the city of Smolensk, then clicking on the map for Smolensk
and using the map's "zoom out" function.

In response to Ms. Alznauer Larry Guam was also helpful in his respone to
Ms. Alznauer although I think he may have erred in suggesting that in 1891
residents of Smolensk" may have been among those forced to live in the Pale. (As
was widely reported and reacted to with internation outcry, in 1891 many lower
class and some middle class Jews were expelled >from Moscow which but I am not
sure whether Smolensk Jews were also expelled >from Smolensk in 1891.)

Ms. Alznauer may want to read Professor Michael Hickey's online article on
the "Legal Status of the Jews of Smolensk," for which he did research in the
State Archives of Smolensk during June, 2004. She can find this article at:

http://www.irex.org/programs/stg/research/04/hickey.pdf.


Hickey has written several other articles on Smolensk Jews which are publis
hed in various scholarly reviews. At Hickey's website, she can find his email
address and ask him whether Jews were expelled >from Smolensk in 1891.

Ms Alznauer should also read the Encyclopedia Judaica article on the history
of the Jews of Smolensk at:

Also, at:

www.jewish encyclopedia.com

there is an article about Note (Nathan) Notkin, an army contractor and
financier and one of the relatively few Jews permitted to live permanently in St.
Petersburg. In the early part of the 19th century he dared to contest the
Tsar's plans to expel the Jews >from Kovno and Smolensk and through his tireless
intervention, succeeded in preventing these expulsions by getting the imperial
decree remedied in favor of the Jews.

(Throughout the nineteenth century it sometimes happened that provincial
governors petitioned for the return of Jews to their respective jurisdictions,
After some time had elapsed, the governors or mayors and their gentile
residents soon regretfully realized how important Jews had been to their economy.)

At:

http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/text/x30/xm3048.html


there is an Encyclopedia Judaica article about Smolensk. It does not mention
an 1891 expulsion.

Also of interest to Ms. Alznauer is Edward Victor's redaction of an
Encyclopedia Judaica article on Smolensk. On his website at:

http://www.edwardvictor.com/smolensk_main.htm

she can view a picture of the great synagogue of Smolensk city.

At:

http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Smolensk_Oblast

there is a list of the administrative districts of the Smolensk oblast. If
Ms. Alznauer's ancestors did not live in the city of Smolensk, then her
ancestral town may have been located in one of the listed districts.

It is true, however, that many people claimed they came >from this or that
city, when actually they came >from some place near that city. I still do know
know whether my paternal grandfather was born in the city of Pinsk, as he
stated on his naturalization papers, or whether he was born in some shtetl near
that city.


It is difficult to find a good researcher abroad and expensive to hire
one. But I have read that the Mormons (Latter Day Saints) recently have been
busy photographing and microfilming hitherto unknown records in the Ukraine and
Russia so maybe someday we will be able to find our ancestors' old records on
LDS microfilms.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
BELKOWSKY,BIELKOWSKY, BILKOWSKI, Odessa,St. Petersburg,Berdichev,
Kiev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug;FRASCH,Kiev;LIBERMAN,Moscow;FELDMAN, Pinsk;
SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets;LEVY, WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS/SASS,Podwolochisk;
RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Podwolochisk, RADOMYSL?; BEHAM, Salok, Kharkov;
WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Smolensk (belarus digest: August 08, 2004) #belarus

NFatouros@...
 

In a message dated 8/9/04 Alezandra Alznauer (petealznauer@earthlink.net)
writes:

Can anyone explain to me why Smolensk is listed in the Shtetls of
Belarus list although it actually appears to have been outside of The
Pale of Settlement on the maps I've seen? It is now in Russia, of
course, and I am trying to track down a Belarussian Jewish HOSENPUD
(GOSENPUD) family that came >from Smolensk.

I have also heard that Jews did not actually live in Smolensk but rather
outside it in shtetls. Is this true? Where might I find out the names
of these shtetls?

How does one go about researching one's ancestors in present-day Russia?
Are they any particular books I should read or sites I should visit?>>


The moderator rightly urged that people trying to find their ancestral
places and where they were located should consult Jewishgen's Shtetl Seeker. This
resource is useful for those who lack paper maps and atlases and who cannot
readily visit a library or bookstoroe to look at maps and atlases. Names of th
e shtetls or towns within the Smolensk oblast can be found by finding the
map coordinates for the city of Smolensk, then clicking on the map for Smolensk
and using the map's "zoom out" function.

In response to Ms. Alznauer Larry Guam was also helpful in his respone to
Ms. Alznauer although I think he may have erred in suggesting that in 1891
residents of Smolensk" may have been among those forced to live in the Pale. (As
was widely reported and reacted to with internation outcry, in 1891 many lower
class and some middle class Jews were expelled >from Moscow which but I am not
sure whether Smolensk Jews were also expelled >from Smolensk in 1891.)

Ms. Alznauer may want to read Professor Michael Hickey's online article on
the "Legal Status of the Jews of Smolensk," for which he did research in the
State Archives of Smolensk during June, 2004. She can find this article at:

http://www.irex.org/programs/stg/research/04/hickey.pdf.


Hickey has written several other articles on Smolensk Jews which are publis
hed in various scholarly reviews. At Hickey's website, she can find his email
address and ask him whether Jews were expelled >from Smolensk in 1891.

Ms Alznauer should also read the Encyclopedia Judaica article on the history
of the Jews of Smolensk at:

Also, at:

www.jewish encyclopedia.com

there is an article about Note (Nathan) Notkin, an army contractor and
financier and one of the relatively few Jews permitted to live permanently in St.
Petersburg. In the early part of the 19th century he dared to contest the
Tsar's plans to expel the Jews >from Kovno and Smolensk and through his tireless
intervention, succeeded in preventing these expulsions by getting the imperial
decree remedied in favor of the Jews.

(Throughout the nineteenth century it sometimes happened that provincial
governors petitioned for the return of Jews to their respective jurisdictions,
After some time had elapsed, the governors or mayors and their gentile
residents soon regretfully realized how important Jews had been to their economy.)

At:

http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/text/x30/xm3048.html


there is an Encyclopedia Judaica article about Smolensk. It does not mention
an 1891 expulsion.

Also of interest to Ms. Alznauer is Edward Victor's redaction of an
Encyclopedia Judaica article on Smolensk. On his website at:

http://www.edwardvictor.com/smolensk_main.htm

she can view a picture of the great synagogue of Smolensk city.

At:

http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Smolensk_Oblast

there is a list of the administrative districts of the Smolensk oblast. If
Ms. Alznauer's ancestors did not live in the city of Smolensk, then her
ancestral town may have been located in one of the listed districts.

It is true, however, that many people claimed they came >from this or that
city, when actually they came >from some place near that city. I still do know
know whether my paternal grandfather was born in the city of Pinsk, as he
stated on his naturalization papers, or whether he was born in some shtetl near
that city.


It is difficult to find a good researcher abroad and expensive to hire
one. But I have read that the Mormons (Latter Day Saints) recently have been
busy photographing and microfilming hitherto unknown records in the Ukraine and
Russia so maybe someday we will be able to find our ancestors' old records on
LDS microfilms.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
BELKOWSKY,BIELKOWSKY, BILKOWSKI, Odessa,St. Petersburg,Berdichev,
Kiev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug;FRASCH,Kiev;LIBERMAN,Moscow;FELDMAN, Pinsk;
SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets;LEVY, WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS/SASS,Podwolochisk;
RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Podwolochisk, RADOMYSL?; BEHAM, Salok, Kharkov;
WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


Dachau records #germany

Joyce Field
 

I wish to respond to Doug Mason's comment that some records are
missing >from the online database of Dachau records. Only about half
of the records are online at this point, unfortunately. The data
entry is complete, but the second level of proofreading is still being done.

Joyce Field jfield@jewishgen.org


German SIG #Germany Dachau records #germany

Joyce Field
 

I wish to respond to Doug Mason's comment that some records are
missing >from the online database of Dachau records. Only about half
of the records are online at this point, unfortunately. The data
entry is complete, but the second level of proofreading is still being done.

Joyce Field jfield@jewishgen.org


Seeking UFFENHEIMER cousins #germany

Adam Yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

One of my mother's ancestors was Hale (Helene) SPRINGER. She had a sister
Nanette SPRINGER (20 May 1824 - 12 May 1909) who married Daniel Gedalya EHRMANN.

One of their daughters Babette (1848-1919) married
Heimann Hermann UFFENHEIMER (1843-1911).
They had 5 children including amongst them: Gustav (born 21 Nov 1871),
Albert (born 24 may 1876 and Karoline (born june 1879, died 1936).

Gustav UFFENHEIMER seems to have gone at some stage to London, UK.
Albert UFFENHEIMER was almost certainly Prof. Dr. Albert UFFENHEIMER, born in
Fuerth, who worked in a hospital in Magdeburg before fleeing to the USA via London.
Karoline UFFENHEIMER married Max ELLERN-EICHMANN, and they had a son,
Max Hans EICHMANN (b about 1905).

It would help me greatly if anyone is able to supply me with more information
about the descendants of Babette and Heiman Hermann UFFENHEIMER.

Adam Yamey, London, UK <adamandlopa@yahoo.co.uk>


German SIG #Germany Seeking UFFENHEIMER cousins #germany

Adam Yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

One of my mother's ancestors was Hale (Helene) SPRINGER. She had a sister
Nanette SPRINGER (20 May 1824 - 12 May 1909) who married Daniel Gedalya EHRMANN.

One of their daughters Babette (1848-1919) married
Heimann Hermann UFFENHEIMER (1843-1911).
They had 5 children including amongst them: Gustav (born 21 Nov 1871),
Albert (born 24 may 1876 and Karoline (born june 1879, died 1936).

Gustav UFFENHEIMER seems to have gone at some stage to London, UK.
Albert UFFENHEIMER was almost certainly Prof. Dr. Albert UFFENHEIMER, born in
Fuerth, who worked in a hospital in Magdeburg before fleeing to the USA via London.
Karoline UFFENHEIMER married Max ELLERN-EICHMANN, and they had a son,
Max Hans EICHMANN (b about 1905).

It would help me greatly if anyone is able to supply me with more information
about the descendants of Babette and Heiman Hermann UFFENHEIMER.

Adam Yamey, London, UK <adamandlopa@yahoo.co.uk>


Re: August issue of Sharsheret Hadorot #germany

Kahn <denmor@...>
 

Is it possible:
1. To buy a single copy of the August issue of Sharsheret Hadorot.
If so, how does payment take place.
2. If not, can the issue be read on the www. or elsewhere.

Sincerely,

Dennis Kahn
Amsterdam

----- Original Message -----
From: "martha" <martha@bgumail.bgu.ac.il>
Subject: [latvia] August issue of Sharsheret Hadorot

The August issue of Sharsheret Hadorot, published by the Israel
Genealogical Society will soon be in the mail.
Sharsheret Hadorot is a bilingual (Hebrew and English) quarterly.
Below is the list of articles in this issue.
...snip...


Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: August issue of Sharsheret Hadorot #latvia

Kahn <denmor@...>
 

Is it possible:
1. To buy a single copy of the August issue of Sharsheret Hadorot.
If so, how does payment take place.
2. If not, can the issue be read on the www. or elsewhere.

Sincerely,

Dennis Kahn
Amsterdam

----- Original Message -----
From: "martha" <martha@bgumail.bgu.ac.il>
Subject: [latvia] August issue of Sharsheret Hadorot

The August issue of Sharsheret Hadorot, published by the Israel
Genealogical Society will soon be in the mail.
Sharsheret Hadorot is a bilingual (Hebrew and English) quarterly.
Below is the list of articles in this issue.
...snip...


Intro - H. & C. TIETZ in Chemnitz, Erich JACOBY #scandinavia

Dr. Juergen Nitsche <JuNitsche@...>
 

I seek information about the department store H.& C. TIETZ in
Chemnitz (celebrating 100 years). The original firm was founded
by Markus TIETZ in Bamberg , one of the brothers. In the building
project were included the brother Sali and Leopold KAUFMANN. The
later owner was Gustav GERST. The only known manager was Hermann
FUERSTENHEIM, killed November 10, 1938.

I am trying to reconstruct parts of the family tree of the well-known
family TIETZ. I have been doing so for about a year, but there are
still some gaps I would like to fill. The book will be published in
some weeks. I have contacted a lot of institutions, companies and
researchers, but the results were mostly the same. Could you recommend
somebody who might be able and willing to help me?

I am also looking for names of earlier employees. I know, Erich Richard
JACOBY was one of the buyers, he was murdered in Auschwitz. His son
Gerhard, born 1925 in Berlin, has left Chemnitz in 1939 and lived in
Sweden. His last know address was in 1960:

G. JACOBY c/o Lavenius Vanadisvägen 42, II Stockholm Va -
Who knew him? Who knows his recent address?
Thank you very much in advance!

Juergen Nitsche, Chemnitz, Germany, JuNitsche@web.de -

Researching:
TIETZ - Birnbaum (Posen), Prenzlau, Berlin, Gera, Bamberg,
GERST - Bamberg, Frankfurt (Main), Sweden, New York,
FUERSTENHEIM - Bahn (Pommern), Berlin, Chemnitz, England, Sweden,
Denmark, USA
KAUFMANN - Frankfurt (Main)
JACOBY - Glogau (Silesia), Berlin, Chemnitz


Scandinavia SIG #Scandinavia Intro - H. & C. TIETZ in Chemnitz, Erich JACOBY #scandinavia

Dr. Juergen Nitsche <JuNitsche@...>
 

I seek information about the department store H.& C. TIETZ in
Chemnitz (celebrating 100 years). The original firm was founded
by Markus TIETZ in Bamberg , one of the brothers. In the building
project were included the brother Sali and Leopold KAUFMANN. The
later owner was Gustav GERST. The only known manager was Hermann
FUERSTENHEIM, killed November 10, 1938.

I am trying to reconstruct parts of the family tree of the well-known
family TIETZ. I have been doing so for about a year, but there are
still some gaps I would like to fill. The book will be published in
some weeks. I have contacted a lot of institutions, companies and
researchers, but the results were mostly the same. Could you recommend
somebody who might be able and willing to help me?

I am also looking for names of earlier employees. I know, Erich Richard
JACOBY was one of the buyers, he was murdered in Auschwitz. His son
Gerhard, born 1925 in Berlin, has left Chemnitz in 1939 and lived in
Sweden. His last know address was in 1960:

G. JACOBY c/o Lavenius Vanadisvägen 42, II Stockholm Va -
Who knew him? Who knows his recent address?
Thank you very much in advance!

Juergen Nitsche, Chemnitz, Germany, JuNitsche@web.de -

Researching:
TIETZ - Birnbaum (Posen), Prenzlau, Berlin, Gera, Bamberg,
GERST - Bamberg, Frankfurt (Main), Sweden, New York,
FUERSTENHEIM - Bahn (Pommern), Berlin, Chemnitz, England, Sweden,
Denmark, USA
KAUFMANN - Frankfurt (Main)
JACOBY - Glogau (Silesia), Berlin, Chemnitz