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INTRO - researching FRIEDLAND in Stettin, Breslau, and Berlin #germany

Paul Gordon <flash@...>
 

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Hello. My name is Paul Gordon, and I am new to the group.

I am researching three brothers named FRIEDLAND who were born around the
1840s-1850s. Born in the Russian town of Ariogala, near Kovno, they
emigrated to Germany as boys or as young men.

First brother - Herrman FRIEDLAND had a lumber yard in Stettin. He had at
least three children:
1. Lucy, who married Herrman LEVY in Stettin in 1902;
2. Emma, who married Adolf MARKUS in Stettin in 1919; and
3. Siegfried, who was born around 1888 in Stargard. He was a confectioner
and visited an uncle named Pagel KAUFMANN in New York in 1910.

Second brother - Siegmund or Shalom Tuviya FRIEDLAND was a cantor in
Breslau. He was apparently well-renowned. In the 1899 Breslau city
directory, he is listed as the cantor of the New Synagogue.

Third brother - Bernhard FRIEDLAND, the youngest brother, is the one I know
most abou. I am in contact with some of his descendants, who have told me a
great deal about his other descendants. Bernhard was living in Stargard in
the early 1880s, and he moved to Stettin around 1883. He eventually settled
in Berlin. He was married to Frederike Lipschitz, and I believe that they
had five children:
1. Martin, born in Stargard in 1881, was a famous musicologist.
2. Adalbert, born in Stettin in 1885, married Charlotte NEUFELD.
3. Else married Otto LIEBKNECHT.
4. Hans
5. Willi and his wife Herta were murdered at Aushwitz.

There was also a relative named Max FRIEDLAND who I believe lived in Elbing
(Elblad). I know nothing else about him. Possibly he was a son of Herrman
or Siegmund/Shalom Tuvia.

Because I know so little about brothers Herrman and Siegmund (Shalom Tuvia),
I am especially interested in finding out more about them and whether they
have any living descendants.

Although I have been doing genealogical research for many years and consider
myself relatively skilled at it, I don't have a lot of experience with
German genealogy. Unfortunately, I don't speak or read German. I have been
able to use some of the German resources available through the Family
History Center (e.g., Stettin marriage records, various city directories).
And, of course, the names are registered in the JGFF.

I'm hopeful that I'll be able to learn more about these three brothers.

Paul Gordon Silver Spring, Maryland (right outside Washington, DC)


German SIG #Germany INTRO - researching FRIEDLAND in Stettin, Breslau, and Berlin #germany

Paul Gordon <flash@...>
 

MOD NOTE: We encourage every new GerSig Member to send us a "Hello" and "INTRO"
message. This one is an excellent example:

Hello. My name is Paul Gordon, and I am new to the group.

I am researching three brothers named FRIEDLAND who were born around the
1840s-1850s. Born in the Russian town of Ariogala, near Kovno, they
emigrated to Germany as boys or as young men.

First brother - Herrman FRIEDLAND had a lumber yard in Stettin. He had at
least three children:
1. Lucy, who married Herrman LEVY in Stettin in 1902;
2. Emma, who married Adolf MARKUS in Stettin in 1919; and
3. Siegfried, who was born around 1888 in Stargard. He was a confectioner
and visited an uncle named Pagel KAUFMANN in New York in 1910.

Second brother - Siegmund or Shalom Tuviya FRIEDLAND was a cantor in
Breslau. He was apparently well-renowned. In the 1899 Breslau city
directory, he is listed as the cantor of the New Synagogue.

Third brother - Bernhard FRIEDLAND, the youngest brother, is the one I know
most abou. I am in contact with some of his descendants, who have told me a
great deal about his other descendants. Bernhard was living in Stargard in
the early 1880s, and he moved to Stettin around 1883. He eventually settled
in Berlin. He was married to Frederike Lipschitz, and I believe that they
had five children:
1. Martin, born in Stargard in 1881, was a famous musicologist.
2. Adalbert, born in Stettin in 1885, married Charlotte NEUFELD.
3. Else married Otto LIEBKNECHT.
4. Hans
5. Willi and his wife Herta were murdered at Aushwitz.

There was also a relative named Max FRIEDLAND who I believe lived in Elbing
(Elblad). I know nothing else about him. Possibly he was a son of Herrman
or Siegmund/Shalom Tuvia.

Because I know so little about brothers Herrman and Siegmund (Shalom Tuvia),
I am especially interested in finding out more about them and whether they
have any living descendants.

Although I have been doing genealogical research for many years and consider
myself relatively skilled at it, I don't have a lot of experience with
German genealogy. Unfortunately, I don't speak or read German. I have been
able to use some of the German resources available through the Family
History Center (e.g., Stettin marriage records, various city directories).
And, of course, the names are registered in the JGFF.

I'm hopeful that I'll be able to learn more about these three brothers.

Paul Gordon Silver Spring, Maryland (right outside Washington, DC)


INTRO - Searching: PONGER Elias, bur. Zentral Friedhof 1 Vienna #germany

John Ponger <johnp@...>
 

I have a request for a member who might soon be visiting Zentral Friedhof
1 TOR Vienna to do his/her own research.

I need extra details >from a specific grave there.
The known details are as follows. Grave of Elias PONGER
buried 22 August 1915 . His grave is at group 8 row 34 Grave 17 A . I need
to know what is the Hebrew name (or Latin) name of his father. It should be
written on his grave in Hebrew that he is the son of someone. Anyone who can
help me I would appreciate it. My Jewish Gen no is 106404 and I am
researching the PONGER family originally >from Moravia/Western Slovakia.
Thank you very much in advance and I look forward to hearing >from anyone.

Kind regards, John Ponger Jerusalem ISRAEL <johnp@...>


German SIG #Germany INTRO - Searching: PONGER Elias, bur. Zentral Friedhof 1 Vienna #germany

John Ponger <johnp@...>
 

I have a request for a member who might soon be visiting Zentral Friedhof
1 TOR Vienna to do his/her own research.

I need extra details >from a specific grave there.
The known details are as follows. Grave of Elias PONGER
buried 22 August 1915 . His grave is at group 8 row 34 Grave 17 A . I need
to know what is the Hebrew name (or Latin) name of his father. It should be
written on his grave in Hebrew that he is the son of someone. Anyone who can
help me I would appreciate it. My Jewish Gen no is 106404 and I am
researching the PONGER family originally >from Moravia/Western Slovakia.
Thank you very much in advance and I look forward to hearing >from anyone.

Kind regards, John Ponger Jerusalem ISRAEL <johnp@...>


Re: NATHAN and LEIDESDORF #germany

Jeanette R. Rosenberg <106503.3561@...>
 

Elsebeth Palkin cc Gersig List
You asked recently about people with the last names NATHAN and LEIDESDORF.
I own a copy of a useful but not always factually correct book by the late
Klaus Schulte entitled
"Familienbuch der Deutzer Juden". The book was published in 1972 by
Boehlau-Verlag Koeln. It is also publication 67 by the Stadtarchiv von Koeln,
ISBN 3412043923. The book is now out of print but is sometimes available
second hand >from antiquarian bookshops.

In the book you can find many mentions of well established Koeln area
families of these names. In particular the NATHAN family. Several LEUDESDORFs
appear as witnessesto marriages for my family members but I do not know if they
are the correct family.

I would be happy to continue this discussion with you off list if it is of
any use to you. with kind regards

Jeanette ROSENBERG London UK email 106503.3561@...

Successfully researching and locating the correct MEYER & HEUMANN families
in Koeln Muelheim! Also searching for families HORN NATHAN DAVID SIMON all in
Koeln Mulheim and many more families throughout Rhineland Germany.


German SIG #Germany RE: NATHAN and LEIDESDORF #germany

Jeanette R. Rosenberg <106503.3561@...>
 

Elsebeth Palkin cc Gersig List
You asked recently about people with the last names NATHAN and LEIDESDORF.
I own a copy of a useful but not always factually correct book by the late
Klaus Schulte entitled
"Familienbuch der Deutzer Juden". The book was published in 1972 by
Boehlau-Verlag Koeln. It is also publication 67 by the Stadtarchiv von Koeln,
ISBN 3412043923. The book is now out of print but is sometimes available
second hand >from antiquarian bookshops.

In the book you can find many mentions of well established Koeln area
families of these names. In particular the NATHAN family. Several LEUDESDORFs
appear as witnessesto marriages for my family members but I do not know if they
are the correct family.

I would be happy to continue this discussion with you off list if it is of
any use to you. with kind regards

Jeanette ROSENBERG London UK email 106503.3561@...

Successfully researching and locating the correct MEYER & HEUMANN families
in Koeln Muelheim! Also searching for families HORN NATHAN DAVID SIMON all in
Koeln Mulheim and many more families throughout Rhineland Germany.


A New Year's Gift! #general

Flo Elman
 

Dear Mitzvah Makers!

On Sept. 2nd, I wrote to our List & to the Jewishgen Digest in an effort to
locate Bella SPEIER, (last seen just after the Holocaust). It was on the
long, cold march >from Stutthof that Bella saved Mildred Greenspoon in a hay
wagon when Mildred became too ill to walk. Mildred is now elderly & ailing.
She remembered that Bella married a Rogers & moved to Australia after the
war. She is hoping to find this very special person & speak to her again. In
my message to the Lists, I mentioned how wonderful it would be if we could
perform a new year's mitzvah, & reunite these women before Rosh Hashonah. I
received a number of friendly suggestions, & to those writers, I say thank
you for your responses.

** The exciting break-through came in a letter >from Nigel Meinrath who
forwarded a family tree that "possibly" had the right information. I sent it
on to Mildred's daughter, my friend, & passed on the suggestion that she
call the Melbourne Chevra Kadisha. I was pretty sure Bella's husband was in
their records, & that we could pinpoint her whereabouts. Today, only *four*
days after beginning the search, I received an email >from my friend. It
read: "YES!!! I'm waiting to hear back >from Bella's son Myron. He is a
neuro-surgeon and currently in surgery. Hope I can talk to her as well! Will
keep you posted."

It appears that we really have performed our mitzvah!! (Many, many thanks
Nigel!!) I will follow up with an account of how their reunion proceeds from
here.

L'shana tova to all of you - health, peace, & the warmth of friendship ....
& not least, Happy Hunting Researchers!

Best regards,
Florence Elman
Ukraine SIG Coordinator
haflo@...

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen A New Year's Gift! #general

Flo Elman
 

Dear Mitzvah Makers!

On Sept. 2nd, I wrote to our List & to the Jewishgen Digest in an effort to
locate Bella SPEIER, (last seen just after the Holocaust). It was on the
long, cold march >from Stutthof that Bella saved Mildred Greenspoon in a hay
wagon when Mildred became too ill to walk. Mildred is now elderly & ailing.
She remembered that Bella married a Rogers & moved to Australia after the
war. She is hoping to find this very special person & speak to her again. In
my message to the Lists, I mentioned how wonderful it would be if we could
perform a new year's mitzvah, & reunite these women before Rosh Hashonah. I
received a number of friendly suggestions, & to those writers, I say thank
you for your responses.

** The exciting break-through came in a letter >from Nigel Meinrath who
forwarded a family tree that "possibly" had the right information. I sent it
on to Mildred's daughter, my friend, & passed on the suggestion that she
call the Melbourne Chevra Kadisha. I was pretty sure Bella's husband was in
their records, & that we could pinpoint her whereabouts. Today, only *four*
days after beginning the search, I received an email >from my friend. It
read: "YES!!! I'm waiting to hear back >from Bella's son Myron. He is a
neuro-surgeon and currently in surgery. Hope I can talk to her as well! Will
keep you posted."

It appears that we really have performed our mitzvah!! (Many, many thanks
Nigel!!) I will follow up with an account of how their reunion proceeds from
here.

L'shana tova to all of you - health, peace, & the warmth of friendship ....
& not least, Happy Hunting Researchers!

Best regards,
Florence Elman
Ukraine SIG Coordinator
haflo@...

MODERATOR'S NOTE:
You may wish to mark this success by making a financial contribution
to the work of JewishGen. For details of how you can support their work,
please go to www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity


Re: For our Ontario and Quebec experts #general

Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

Barry Spinner <bspinner@...> wrote:

Glen Eker of Hamilton, Ontario is publishing a series of books that detail
Jewish residents recorded in various Canadian censuses.
He is doing this through the Ontario Genea. Society (see Toronto). So far
there are two published.
http://www.ogs.on.ca/publications/search/index.php
Jews Resident in Ontario According to the 1851 to 1901 Censuses of Canada
The book on Quebec has recently been sent to the publisher.
Sounds like this may be very useful.

Any idea when volumes for Western Canada might appear?

Robert Israel israel@...
Vancouver, BC, Canada


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: For our Ontario and Quebec experts #general

Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

Barry Spinner <bspinner@...> wrote:

Glen Eker of Hamilton, Ontario is publishing a series of books that detail
Jewish residents recorded in various Canadian censuses.
He is doing this through the Ontario Genea. Society (see Toronto). So far
there are two published.
http://www.ogs.on.ca/publications/search/index.php
Jews Resident in Ontario According to the 1851 to 1901 Censuses of Canada
The book on Quebec has recently been sent to the publisher.
Sounds like this may be very useful.

Any idea when volumes for Western Canada might appear?

Robert Israel israel@...
Vancouver, BC, Canada


Yad Vashem Database #general

Denise Azbill <famaz1@...>
 

Does anyone know when the Yad Vashem database will go live?

Thanks,
Denise Weidenfeld Azbill
Las Vegas, NV


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Yad Vashem Database #general

Denise Azbill <famaz1@...>
 

Does anyone know when the Yad Vashem database will go live?

Thanks,
Denise Weidenfeld Azbill
Las Vegas, NV


Cemeteries #general

ms nodrog
 

Dear Genners,
I am searching for my husband's grandmother Broche(Barbara)DRABKIN
BAREN/BARRIN who I have been told died Feb. 29, 1928. What I need help
with is the names of cemeteries in the Bronx / Brooklyn / Queens area
that would have a computerized database of people who are buried there.

I have been to the Mt. Carmel Cemetery (old) and they have checked but
there is no one by that name. Lisa Dashman, a wonderful Genner, has
checked Cypress Hills Cemetery for me. Unfortunately, they have not
computerized their database.

I would appreciate any help that anyone can provide. My e-mail is
msnodrog@...

Thanks in advance and a Happy, Healthy New Yeaar to all.
Hope Gordon

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Burial Registry. For NY they have documented 199 cemeteries most in NYC.
Please go to: http://www2.jewishgen.org/databases/cemetery/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Cemeteries #general

ms nodrog
 

Dear Genners,
I am searching for my husband's grandmother Broche(Barbara)DRABKIN
BAREN/BARRIN who I have been told died Feb. 29, 1928. What I need help
with is the names of cemeteries in the Bronx / Brooklyn / Queens area
that would have a computerized database of people who are buried there.

I have been to the Mt. Carmel Cemetery (old) and they have checked but
there is no one by that name. Lisa Dashman, a wonderful Genner, has
checked Cypress Hills Cemetery for me. Unfortunately, they have not
computerized their database.

I would appreciate any help that anyone can provide. My e-mail is
msnodrog@...

Thanks in advance and a Happy, Healthy New Yeaar to all.
Hope Gordon

MODERATOR NOTE: A good place to look is the JewishGen Online Worldwide
Burial Registry. For NY they have documented 199 cemeteries most in NYC.
Please go to: http://www2.jewishgen.org/databases/cemetery/


Short Yiddish Translation Help Needed #general

Vladimir Sinayuk <sinayukv@...>
 

Dear Yiddish Speakers,

My cousin in Israel discovered a handwritten Yiddish note of my
grandmother's >from the last year of her life, by which point she had
advanced Alzheimer Disease. Needless to say, we are anxious to know
what it says. Would anyone be able to volunteer to translate it for me?
The note is 8 lines long, and I could either fax a copy, or e-mail a 2.5
mb filejpeg scan of it. Please e-mail me your responses privately.

Thanks,
Vlad

Vladimir Sinayuk | Bronx, NY | Email: sinayukv@... | Seeking:
BANET >from Pabianice | BERMAN >from Cincinnati | BETIS >from Balta |BRONFMAN >from
Sokiryany | BURDMAN >from Sokiryany | CHEJASNUWSKA >from Pabianice | CHERNYAK >from
Chernovtsy | DOSICK >from Zhitomir | GORBACH >from Chernovtsy | HOCHBAUM >from
Leszno | JOSEPH >from Karlsruhe | JOSEPH >from Untergrombach | LERNER >from
Chernovtsy | MEERAPFEL >from Karlsuhe |MEERAPFEL >from Untergrombach | ROISMAN from
Sokiryany | SCHWAGER >from Bucuresti | SHECHTER >from Falesti | SINAYUK >from
Zhitomir | VIDMAN >from Chernovtsy | WEINSTEIN >from Sokiryany | ZALTSMAN >from
Sokiryany |


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Short Yiddish Translation Help Needed #general

Vladimir Sinayuk <sinayukv@...>
 

Dear Yiddish Speakers,

My cousin in Israel discovered a handwritten Yiddish note of my
grandmother's >from the last year of her life, by which point she had
advanced Alzheimer Disease. Needless to say, we are anxious to know
what it says. Would anyone be able to volunteer to translate it for me?
The note is 8 lines long, and I could either fax a copy, or e-mail a 2.5
mb filejpeg scan of it. Please e-mail me your responses privately.

Thanks,
Vlad

Vladimir Sinayuk | Bronx, NY | Email: sinayukv@... | Seeking:
BANET >from Pabianice | BERMAN >from Cincinnati | BETIS >from Balta |BRONFMAN >from
Sokiryany | BURDMAN >from Sokiryany | CHEJASNUWSKA >from Pabianice | CHERNYAK >from
Chernovtsy | DOSICK >from Zhitomir | GORBACH >from Chernovtsy | HOCHBAUM >from
Leszno | JOSEPH >from Karlsruhe | JOSEPH >from Untergrombach | LERNER >from
Chernovtsy | MEERAPFEL >from Karlsuhe |MEERAPFEL >from Untergrombach | ROISMAN from
Sokiryany | SCHWAGER >from Bucuresti | SHECHTER >from Falesti | SINAYUK >from
Zhitomir | VIDMAN >from Chernovtsy | WEINSTEIN >from Sokiryany | ZALTSMAN >from
Sokiryany |


OPPENHEIM / SIMON / GOLDMAN(N) / CASSEL (CASSELLA) #general

Hanna Goldmann
 

Dear Readers,
 
Henriette Oppenheim b: 1786 in Frankfurt/Main, d: 1876
in Fauerbach?, married to Gottschalk Simon (1780 -
1857). Their son: Louis (Loew, Ludwig) Simon
(1818-1859) married to Henriette Goldman(n)
(1819-1881), daughter of M.L. Goldman(n). I'm looking
for the parents/origin of Mayer (Meyer, Meier, Majer)
Lazarus Goldman(n), b: 1788/1792?, d: 1879 in
Friedberg (Hessen) married to Bella Rachel Cassel
(Cassella) in 1814 and the parents of Henriette
Oppenheim in Frankfurt/Main, b: 1786.

I'll be glad to share my info. Any help is greatly
appreciated.

Hanna
 
Searching also for Cahn.

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen OPPENHEIM / SIMON / GOLDMAN(N) / CASSEL (CASSELLA) #general

Hanna Goldmann
 

Dear Readers,
 
Henriette Oppenheim b: 1786 in Frankfurt/Main, d: 1876
in Fauerbach?, married to Gottschalk Simon (1780 -
1857). Their son: Louis (Loew, Ludwig) Simon
(1818-1859) married to Henriette Goldman(n)
(1819-1881), daughter of M.L. Goldman(n). I'm looking
for the parents/origin of Mayer (Meyer, Meier, Majer)
Lazarus Goldman(n), b: 1788/1792?, d: 1879 in
Friedberg (Hessen) married to Bella Rachel Cassel
(Cassella) in 1814 and the parents of Henriette
Oppenheim in Frankfurt/Main, b: 1786.

I'll be glad to share my info. Any help is greatly
appreciated.

Hanna
 
Searching also for Cahn.

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enhanced if you register the name(s) you are searching for in
the JewishGen Family Finder. Go to www.jewishgen.org/jgff


WWI Alien Registration: Russian immigrants #general

scperkins <SPerkins@...>
 

Hello:

Russia required all male Russian immigrants in USA and Canada to register
at a Russian Consulate during WWI. Not sure if they did the same during
the Russo-Japanese War. These can be located through the American Society
of Germans >from Russia Historical Society. Under Russian law you were
elligible for Russian military service if a grandparent had been a Russian
citizen. This was the same rule for eligibility to vote in some recent
Russian elections. Not sure if it is still the law.

Regards,

Steven C. Perkins


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen WWI Alien Registration: Russian immigrants #general

scperkins <SPerkins@...>
 

Hello:

Russia required all male Russian immigrants in USA and Canada to register
at a Russian Consulate during WWI. Not sure if they did the same during
the Russo-Japanese War. These can be located through the American Society
of Germans >from Russia Historical Society. Under Russian law you were
elligible for Russian military service if a grandparent had been a Russian
citizen. This was the same rule for eligibility to vote in some recent
Russian elections. Not sure if it is still the law.

Regards,

Steven C. Perkins