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IAJGS PARIS 2012 - last news #austria-czech

Congrès Paris 2012 Généaloj
 

Thanks to all those who registered yesterday.
Given the success we have decided to extend the opening of online
registration (www.paris2012.eu) until tomorrow Thursday noon - Paris time

Merci à tous ceux, tres nombreux, qui se sont inscrits hier : devant ce
succes, nous avons decide de prolonger l'ouverture des inscriptions sur le
Site (www.paris2012.eu) jusqu'à demain jeudi - heure de Paris !

The committee


New to Czech Research--need help with a couple of issues re: Krnov, CZ #austria-czech

Deborah Dworski
 

from interviewing numerous relatives a decade ago, I knew that my gggm
had fled >from her village (in eastern Galicia) during WWI and had
subsequently died while on the run. I was told that she was buried on
the spot, but nothing more was known. I thought that was the end of
the story, but much to my surprise, she recently appeared in the JOWBR
database. She died in Krnov, CZ in 1916. A niece also appeared in
the JOWBR database, and she died in the same town of Krnov a few weeks
later. It's a highly unusual surname and every detail fits perfectly,
so I am certain this is my gggm. With that in mind:

1) Can anyone offer an explanation as to why two poor women >from the
eastern edge of Galicia (a village near the larger town of Horodenka)
would have gone to Krnov during WWI?

2) Does anyone know if Krnov death records for 1916 are available?
(I followed instructions posted here a few weeks ago for accessing the
Badatelna.cz website, but I did not see any death records listed for
this particular town.) Could someone with more experience please
confirm this information?

3) If death records for this town during this time period did exist,
would they definitely be listed at the Badatelna.cz website, or might
they be available >from another source?

4) With the deaths of the two women occurring within weeks of each
other, perhaps an epidemic swept through the town. Would there be any
epidemiological data available for Czech towns to check out this
theory (if individual death records are not available)?

Thanks so much for your patience with these very basic questions!

Sincerely,
Deborah Dworski
(State of Virginia, U.S.A.)


Anna BRYK (1852-?) #austria-czech

oliverbryk@...
 

My widowed great-grandfather Adolf BRYK married Anna JELENKIEWICZ in
1880 in Vienna. She was born on 18 November 1852.

After Adolf died in Vienna in 1912, Anna lived with her daughter Ella
LEIMDORFER's family in Durdenovac, a small town near Nasice, west of
Zagreb.

Ella moved to Zagreb after her husband Aladar LEIMDORFER died in 1936.
As far as I know Anna - then about 85 years old - did not move to Zagreb
with Ella but supposedly returned to Vienna where the widow of her son
Walter BRYK (1882-1930) lived. (Walter's twin brother Felix BRYK lived
in Sweden.)

Anna BRYK may have lived in a home for Seniors (Altersheim) in Mauer. I
do not have any evidence that Anna ever lived or died in Mauer.

Anna BRYK is not listed among the victims of the Shoah. The Jewish
Community in Zagreb has no record of her.

I shall be most grateful for information about where and when Anna BRYK
died.

Oliver Bryk, San Francisco (oliverbryk@...)


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech IAJGS PARIS 2012 - last news #austria-czech

Congrès Paris 2012 Généaloj
 

Thanks to all those who registered yesterday.
Given the success we have decided to extend the opening of online
registration (www.paris2012.eu) until tomorrow Thursday noon - Paris time

Merci à tous ceux, tres nombreux, qui se sont inscrits hier : devant ce
succes, nous avons decide de prolonger l'ouverture des inscriptions sur le
Site (www.paris2012.eu) jusqu'à demain jeudi - heure de Paris !

The committee


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech New to Czech Research--need help with a couple of issues re: Krnov, CZ #austria-czech

Deborah Dworski
 

from interviewing numerous relatives a decade ago, I knew that my gggm
had fled >from her village (in eastern Galicia) during WWI and had
subsequently died while on the run. I was told that she was buried on
the spot, but nothing more was known. I thought that was the end of
the story, but much to my surprise, she recently appeared in the JOWBR
database. She died in Krnov, CZ in 1916. A niece also appeared in
the JOWBR database, and she died in the same town of Krnov a few weeks
later. It's a highly unusual surname and every detail fits perfectly,
so I am certain this is my gggm. With that in mind:

1) Can anyone offer an explanation as to why two poor women >from the
eastern edge of Galicia (a village near the larger town of Horodenka)
would have gone to Krnov during WWI?

2) Does anyone know if Krnov death records for 1916 are available?
(I followed instructions posted here a few weeks ago for accessing the
Badatelna.cz website, but I did not see any death records listed for
this particular town.) Could someone with more experience please
confirm this information?

3) If death records for this town during this time period did exist,
would they definitely be listed at the Badatelna.cz website, or might
they be available >from another source?

4) With the deaths of the two women occurring within weeks of each
other, perhaps an epidemic swept through the town. Would there be any
epidemiological data available for Czech towns to check out this
theory (if individual death records are not available)?

Thanks so much for your patience with these very basic questions!

Sincerely,
Deborah Dworski
(State of Virginia, U.S.A.)


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Anna BRYK (1852-?) #austria-czech

oliverbryk@...
 

My widowed great-grandfather Adolf BRYK married Anna JELENKIEWICZ in
1880 in Vienna. She was born on 18 November 1852.

After Adolf died in Vienna in 1912, Anna lived with her daughter Ella
LEIMDORFER's family in Durdenovac, a small town near Nasice, west of
Zagreb.

Ella moved to Zagreb after her husband Aladar LEIMDORFER died in 1936.
As far as I know Anna - then about 85 years old - did not move to Zagreb
with Ella but supposedly returned to Vienna where the widow of her son
Walter BRYK (1882-1930) lived. (Walter's twin brother Felix BRYK lived
in Sweden.)

Anna BRYK may have lived in a home for Seniors (Altersheim) in Mauer. I
do not have any evidence that Anna ever lived or died in Mauer.

Anna BRYK is not listed among the victims of the Shoah. The Jewish
Community in Zagreb has no record of her.

I shall be most grateful for information about where and when Anna BRYK
died.

Oliver Bryk, San Francisco (oliverbryk@...)


Jews in Goellheim: seeking article #germany

Peter Straus
 

Dear GerSIGgers--

I continue to research the STRAUS family of Goellheim, among others. I have
recently learned of an article by Mathias Korz, titled "Juden in Goellheim"
(o-umlaut of course), which appeared in Donnersberg-Jahrbuch 6 (1983), pp.
173 - 177. Does anyone in the GerSIG community know of an electronic link
to this document, or, alternatively, does anyone have access to this article
who would be willing to scan it and transmit it to me by email? Many thanks
to anyone who can assist.

Peter Straus, San Francisco pstrausSF@...


German SIG #Germany Jews in Goellheim: seeking article #germany

Peter Straus
 

Dear GerSIGgers--

I continue to research the STRAUS family of Goellheim, among others. I have
recently learned of an article by Mathias Korz, titled "Juden in Goellheim"
(o-umlaut of course), which appeared in Donnersberg-Jahrbuch 6 (1983), pp.
173 - 177. Does anyone in the GerSIG community know of an electronic link
to this document, or, alternatively, does anyone have access to this article
who would be willing to scan it and transmit it to me by email? Many thanks
to anyone who can assist.

Peter Straus, San Francisco pstrausSF@...


"Newman" as given name #germany

Judith Berlowitz <jberlowitz331@...>
 

Dear GerSIGgers,
If any of you have males in your families whose first name is
"Newman" , I'd like to know for whom these people were named. The
name is rampant in my LEVINSON family >from "Prussia." They were
possibly >from the Poznan area; the only birthplace I've been able to
document definitely is that of my g-g-g-grandmother, Elisheva
(Jeannette)LEVINSOHN / LEVINSON / LOEWENBERG, born 1787 in Rogasen (Rogozno) &
died in Chicago in 1888 (yes!). None of her sons were named "Newman."
Besides Newman David LEVINSON, born in 1835 in "Prussia" and died in
1899 in Indianapolis, there are four Newman LEVINSONs, all born
between 1853-1855 in either Shelbyville, IN, or Cincinnati, OH. I am
researching this naming practice in the effort to link their fathers
as brothers or cousins. The only ancestral given name of which I am
certain is "Menachem." The fathers of these Newman males were (in
order of birth) Jacob, Joseph, Meyer L., and Philip.

Judith Berlowitz, Oakland, CA


German SIG #Germany "Newman" as given name #germany

Judith Berlowitz <jberlowitz331@...>
 

Dear GerSIGgers,
If any of you have males in your families whose first name is
"Newman" , I'd like to know for whom these people were named. The
name is rampant in my LEVINSON family >from "Prussia." They were
possibly >from the Poznan area; the only birthplace I've been able to
document definitely is that of my g-g-g-grandmother, Elisheva
(Jeannette)LEVINSOHN / LEVINSON / LOEWENBERG, born 1787 in Rogasen (Rogozno) &
died in Chicago in 1888 (yes!). None of her sons were named "Newman."
Besides Newman David LEVINSON, born in 1835 in "Prussia" and died in
1899 in Indianapolis, there are four Newman LEVINSONs, all born
between 1853-1855 in either Shelbyville, IN, or Cincinnati, OH. I am
researching this naming practice in the effort to link their fathers
as brothers or cousins. The only ancestral given name of which I am
certain is "Menachem." The fathers of these Newman males were (in
order of birth) Jacob, Joseph, Meyer L., and Philip.

Judith Berlowitz, Oakland, CA


Information Available From Moscow Central Archives #general

Howard Margol
 

I appreciate Marilyn's efforts in finding records in the Moscow archives.
However, actually obtaining the records is the major problem. I have tried
contacting the archive in past years, without success. I located someone in
Moscow who agreed to find and translate Lithuanian Jewish records, for a
fee, and that did not work. She said the regulations, restrictions, etc.
with the Moscow archives were too difficult to deal with.

If anyone can tell me how to obtain the records, I would greatly
appreciate it. Perhaps someone has succeeded where I have failed.

Howard Margol
Litvak SIG Coordinator for Records Acquisition

<<From: Marilyn Robinson marilyn4622r@...
Information can be found at the Russian language site at:
http://www.mosarchiv.mos.ru/images/Putevoditel-5/carhmos5-1.htm#n or
http://tinyurl.com/6rfvj6p regarding:

Moscow Synagogue records (1869-1892) for Jews >from Moscow and the district
towns
of Moscow province (CIAM, f. 2372, 33 units. Mts., 1870-1915)--births,
marriages,
deaths, divorces

Moscow Jewish Community (1866-1919) (CIAM, f. 1455, 112 units. Mts.,
1904-1927)--deals with socio-economic, fiscal, legal, cultural, educational,
religious, statistical data--such as information regarding "Jewish Income Tax",
food aid to Jewish refugees, Jewish organizations, schools, libraries, guided
tours and children's parties, civil disputes, polling cards for elections,
brochures in Hebrew, lists of candidates for election, committee to assist
Jewish victims of pogroms, photos of children, etc.

Moscow Public Rabbi (CIAM, f. 1457, 76 units. Mts., 1893-1918)--some info.about
Rabbi Frenkel Maze--evidence for the burial of Jews, registration cards for
newborns (1899-1910), certificates and licenses issued for marriage,petitions
filed for divorce, birth registration, marriage (1902-1917), birth certificates
(1901-1909), conversion (?) of Jews to Orthodox faith, correspondence with
rabbis regarding rights of inheritance, soldiers holiday leave,naming rites
(1905-08), information related to prison & prisoners, review of "Jewish Dept."
libraries by Rabbi Frenkel.

Utility Board For Jewish Prayer Institutions (1894-1929) (CIAM, f. 1456,
331 units. Mts., 1870-1929) Parish registers Abelskaya Jewish Society at
Novo-Alexandrov, Kovno gubernia, births, deaths (1881-1907, 1915), lists
of Jewish deportees (1924), info. related to the poor & needy, etc.>>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Information Available From Moscow Central Archives #general

Howard Margol
 

I appreciate Marilyn's efforts in finding records in the Moscow archives.
However, actually obtaining the records is the major problem. I have tried
contacting the archive in past years, without success. I located someone in
Moscow who agreed to find and translate Lithuanian Jewish records, for a
fee, and that did not work. She said the regulations, restrictions, etc.
with the Moscow archives were too difficult to deal with.

If anyone can tell me how to obtain the records, I would greatly
appreciate it. Perhaps someone has succeeded where I have failed.

Howard Margol
Litvak SIG Coordinator for Records Acquisition

<<From: Marilyn Robinson marilyn4622r@...
Information can be found at the Russian language site at:
http://www.mosarchiv.mos.ru/images/Putevoditel-5/carhmos5-1.htm#n or
http://tinyurl.com/6rfvj6p regarding:

Moscow Synagogue records (1869-1892) for Jews >from Moscow and the district
towns
of Moscow province (CIAM, f. 2372, 33 units. Mts., 1870-1915)--births,
marriages,
deaths, divorces

Moscow Jewish Community (1866-1919) (CIAM, f. 1455, 112 units. Mts.,
1904-1927)--deals with socio-economic, fiscal, legal, cultural, educational,
religious, statistical data--such as information regarding "Jewish Income Tax",
food aid to Jewish refugees, Jewish organizations, schools, libraries, guided
tours and children's parties, civil disputes, polling cards for elections,
brochures in Hebrew, lists of candidates for election, committee to assist
Jewish victims of pogroms, photos of children, etc.

Moscow Public Rabbi (CIAM, f. 1457, 76 units. Mts., 1893-1918)--some info.about
Rabbi Frenkel Maze--evidence for the burial of Jews, registration cards for
newborns (1899-1910), certificates and licenses issued for marriage,petitions
filed for divorce, birth registration, marriage (1902-1917), birth certificates
(1901-1909), conversion (?) of Jews to Orthodox faith, correspondence with
rabbis regarding rights of inheritance, soldiers holiday leave,naming rites
(1905-08), information related to prison & prisoners, review of "Jewish Dept."
libraries by Rabbi Frenkel.

Utility Board For Jewish Prayer Institutions (1894-1929) (CIAM, f. 1456,
331 units. Mts., 1870-1929) Parish registers Abelskaya Jewish Society at
Novo-Alexandrov, Kovno gubernia, births, deaths (1881-1907, 1915), lists
of Jewish deportees (1924), info. related to the poor & needy, etc.>>


Five images posted requesting German translation #galicia

Carol Sicherman <csicher@...>
 


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Five images posted requesting German translation #galicia

Carol Sicherman <csicher@...>
 


Re: Term in synagogue statute #germany

Heinz Radde <radde@...>
 

Olaf Ruhl [mailto:Olaf.Ruhl@...] wrote:
the yiddish term "noende/noente" (the vowels o and e to be spoken
separately) means something like "close, familiar, nearby".
In the context of the synagogue statute this may relate to the front
row(s) of seats; does this make sense to you?
Thank you, Olaf and other off-list answers, for your contributions.
It seems, the term really means "Stande" (a Umlaut), although the very
clear handwriting in Old German (Kurrantschrift) looks like N.
I'm not sure, whether you could that translate it with "booths" in this
case. However, it's a topic for a group of seats in a synagogue.

Regards, Heinz Radde, Switzerland, radde@...


German SIG #Germany Re: Term in synagogue statute #germany

Heinz Radde <radde@...>
 

Olaf Ruhl [mailto:Olaf.Ruhl@...] wrote:
the yiddish term "noende/noente" (the vowels o and e to be spoken
separately) means something like "close, familiar, nearby".
In the context of the synagogue statute this may relate to the front
row(s) of seats; does this make sense to you?
Thank you, Olaf and other off-list answers, for your contributions.
It seems, the term really means "Stande" (a Umlaut), although the very
clear handwriting in Old German (Kurrantschrift) looks like N.
I'm not sure, whether you could that translate it with "booths" in this
case. However, it's a topic for a group of seats in a synagogue.

Regards, Heinz Radde, Switzerland, radde@...


Brick wall help: ROSENFELD #general

Lisa Cohn
 

I've been trying to get around a brick wall regarding my great-grandmother,
Charlotte (Sharlotta) Rosenfeld COHN. I know she married into the Cohn family
of Botosani, Romania, but it appears she's not >from there. I'd like to know
more about the Rosenfelds, where they were from, etc. I have a couple of leads:

A couple of years ago, I found a Page of Testimony at Yad Vashem for her
daughter, Rosika Cohn LITMAN. The Page of Testimony was filled out by a Rivka
GRUENBERG who was living in Bat Yam, Israel, in 1957. Rivka said she was a
cousin. I searched a little further to see who else Rivka filled out Pages of
Testimony for. She also filled one out for Marcel Rosenfeld, listing him as a
cousin as well. Marcel Rosenfeld died on the Struma.

If I can find out where Marcel or Rivka came from, maybe I can find some hints
for Charlotte. I've considered perhaps finding a biography of the Struma victims
that might be able to tell me where Marcel Rosenfeld was from.
Or perhaps some immigration records regarding Rivka Gruenberg of Bat Yam,
Israel, that might say where she was from.

I'm not sure how to proceed. Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks,
Lisa Cohn
ROSENFELD, LITMAN, COHN - Romania (Botosani, Novoselitsa, Chernovitz)
COHEN, SWOFF - Zagare, Lithuania


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Brick wall help: ROSENFELD #general

Lisa Cohn
 

I've been trying to get around a brick wall regarding my great-grandmother,
Charlotte (Sharlotta) Rosenfeld COHN. I know she married into the Cohn family
of Botosani, Romania, but it appears she's not >from there. I'd like to know
more about the Rosenfelds, where they were from, etc. I have a couple of leads:

A couple of years ago, I found a Page of Testimony at Yad Vashem for her
daughter, Rosika Cohn LITMAN. The Page of Testimony was filled out by a Rivka
GRUENBERG who was living in Bat Yam, Israel, in 1957. Rivka said she was a
cousin. I searched a little further to see who else Rivka filled out Pages of
Testimony for. She also filled one out for Marcel Rosenfeld, listing him as a
cousin as well. Marcel Rosenfeld died on the Struma.

If I can find out where Marcel or Rivka came from, maybe I can find some hints
for Charlotte. I've considered perhaps finding a biography of the Struma victims
that might be able to tell me where Marcel Rosenfeld was from.
Or perhaps some immigration records regarding Rivka Gruenberg of Bat Yam,
Israel, that might say where she was from.

I'm not sure how to proceed. Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks,
Lisa Cohn
ROSENFELD, LITMAN, COHN - Romania (Botosani, Novoselitsa, Chernovitz)
COHEN, SWOFF - Zagare, Lithuania


Re: Ship records #general

ron arons
 

I would recommend several approaches:

-look for detailed historic maps of that area in the David Rumsey collection
at www.davidrumsey.com.

-look for detailed historic maps of the area in the map section of the NYPL
website:
http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/dgdivisionbrowseresult.cfm?div_id=hm

-go in person to the Map Division of the NYPL on 42nd St. to look at Sanborn
Maps. Better yet, find a library closer to you which subscribes to ProQuest's
Sanborn Maps Geo Edition. (This service is not available to individuals, only
available to institutions.)
http://www.proquest.com/en-US/catalogs/databases/detail/gsm.shtml

Ron Arons
Oakland, CA
www.ronarons.com

From: ESLVIV@...
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 17:27:23 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 3

I was looking at a ship record in the year 1902 that had information about
my wife's grandfather. What caught my eye was that the list of names on
this page were almost all bracketed together as going to 410 E 5th street in
New York.
Would anyone know what was at this address and how it affected the new
arrivals.

Errol Schneegurt NY


Re: Ship records #general

ron arons
 

I went a bit further than in my last response...

I found the following NYPL website which has links to numerous atlases and
Sanborn Maps for NYC.

I then selected the Bromley Atlas for the City of New York for 1898-1899.
This brought me to a set of plates (maps). I browsed until I found the
correct one: Plate 28 (on page 2)

I then double-clicked on the map which opened up a new window which allowed
me to zoom in and pan.

410 E. 5th St was east of 1st Avenue. Just to the west, on the southeast
corner of 1st Avenue and E.. 5th Street there was a NYPD precinct station.
Just west of there (on E. 5th and E. 4th Sts, were PS 25 and PS 26, respectively.

Ron Arons
Oakland, CA
www.ronarons.com