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Help Needed to Locate Family in Israel #general

Sharen Hogarth
 

I previously posted re locating my cousin Shmulik DOKTOROV/DOCTOROV in
Kiryat-Shmona & a kind Genner provided a telephone number for his wife, Klara. The
number unfortunately was no longer in service. I then decided to write to an
address that I was given for them... that was in July & as yet I have had no
response.

Therefore, I am wondering if there is anyone in the group who knows of the family
or lives in the Kiryat-Shmona area & would be able to contact them for me.

I would be most grateful for any assistance.

Please respond privately to mailto:sjhogarth@cogeco.ca

Sharen Hogarth
Ontario, Canada


Re: adoption and conversion #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 11/1/2004 9:27:39 AM Eastern Standard Time,
DebWE308@aol.com writes:

< A distant relative married a women who was adopted and grew up in a Jewish
Conservative home in NJ. Her parents told her that the biological mother was
Jewish. She grew up and married my relative by a Conservative Rabbi. They have 2
children. Now when the oldest child is to become a Bar Mitzvah, the Orthodox
Rabbi is demanding proof of the mother being Jewish.>

==I am not a rabbi nor a scholar and can speak only as a layman about the
experiences of others in similar situations that have come to my attention.

==You need to use a little caution. Rabbis, like judges, are reluctant to overrule
a colleague. I suggest you find a rabbi you really trust, whom you're not
expecting to perform the "conversion," and ask him to ask around in confidence to
find someone who will perform the ceremony. It shouldn't be difficult since the
boys have been studying and observing Judaism all their lives: they will need to
be questioned briefly on what they know of Judaism, will be asked to accept
Judaism, and will be required to immerse in the mikveh. Sometimes it may also be
necessary to draw a drop of blood >from the stump of the foreskin.

==You may even find a rabbi who will rule that infant circumcision by a
God-fearing mohel constituted a "milah leshem giyur", i.e. the circmcision
automatically converted the infant. As for "converting" a Jew, that shouldn't be
much of a problem; the Israeli rabbinate frequently arranges symbolic conversions
for immigrnts ">from the lost tribes," whose Jewishness may be uncertain.

Michael Bernet, New York
***
MODERATOR NOTE: Further responses should be sent privately.


Harry SEVEL #general

Sandra Yoder
 

The name of Harry SEVEL appears as a witness on my gparent's marriage certificate.
They married in the Bronx in 1915.
Harry is listed in the 1930 census in SanYsidro, CA at age 42, coming to America
in 1905 (born about 1888). His father was born in Latvia and mother in Germany.
If you know of him, please contact me.
Thank you
Sandra Yoder
Goshen IN


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help Needed to Locate Family in Israel #general

Sharen Hogarth
 

I previously posted re locating my cousin Shmulik DOKTOROV/DOCTOROV in
Kiryat-Shmona & a kind Genner provided a telephone number for his wife, Klara. The
number unfortunately was no longer in service. I then decided to write to an
address that I was given for them... that was in July & as yet I have had no
response.

Therefore, I am wondering if there is anyone in the group who knows of the family
or lives in the Kiryat-Shmona area & would be able to contact them for me.

I would be most grateful for any assistance.

Please respond privately to mailto:sjhogarth@cogeco.ca

Sharen Hogarth
Ontario, Canada


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: adoption and conversion #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 11/1/2004 9:27:39 AM Eastern Standard Time,
DebWE308@aol.com writes:

< A distant relative married a women who was adopted and grew up in a Jewish
Conservative home in NJ. Her parents told her that the biological mother was
Jewish. She grew up and married my relative by a Conservative Rabbi. They have 2
children. Now when the oldest child is to become a Bar Mitzvah, the Orthodox
Rabbi is demanding proof of the mother being Jewish.>

==I am not a rabbi nor a scholar and can speak only as a layman about the
experiences of others in similar situations that have come to my attention.

==You need to use a little caution. Rabbis, like judges, are reluctant to overrule
a colleague. I suggest you find a rabbi you really trust, whom you're not
expecting to perform the "conversion," and ask him to ask around in confidence to
find someone who will perform the ceremony. It shouldn't be difficult since the
boys have been studying and observing Judaism all their lives: they will need to
be questioned briefly on what they know of Judaism, will be asked to accept
Judaism, and will be required to immerse in the mikveh. Sometimes it may also be
necessary to draw a drop of blood >from the stump of the foreskin.

==You may even find a rabbi who will rule that infant circumcision by a
God-fearing mohel constituted a "milah leshem giyur", i.e. the circmcision
automatically converted the infant. As for "converting" a Jew, that shouldn't be
much of a problem; the Israeli rabbinate frequently arranges symbolic conversions
for immigrnts ">from the lost tribes," whose Jewishness may be uncertain.

Michael Bernet, New York
***
MODERATOR NOTE: Further responses should be sent privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Harry SEVEL #general

Sandra Yoder
 

The name of Harry SEVEL appears as a witness on my gparent's marriage certificate.
They married in the Bronx in 1915.
Harry is listed in the 1930 census in SanYsidro, CA at age 42, coming to America
in 1905 (born about 1888). His father was born in Latvia and mother in Germany.
If you know of him, please contact me.
Thank you
Sandra Yoder
Goshen IN


Re: Chil #general

Dorothy Kohanski <dkohanski@...>
 

I don't know what the name means, but my daughter in law's grandfather was named
Chil, and he was >from Osarow, Poland and lived later in Aruba.
Dorothy Kohanski
Laguna Woods, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Chil #general

Dorothy Kohanski <dkohanski@...>
 

I don't know what the name means, but my daughter in law's grandfather was named
Chil, and he was >from Osarow, Poland and lived later in Aruba.
Dorothy Kohanski
Laguna Woods, CA


Hello #yizkorbooks

Berneman Lazare <lazare.berneman@...>
 

Hello to all of you
I need help to find details on the village SKIDEL i think Russia
Regards and thank you
Lazare
__________________________________________________________________
Lazare Berneman
Lazareke >from KOZIENICE


Yizkor Books #YizkorBooks Hello #yizkorbooks

Berneman Lazare <lazare.berneman@...>
 

Hello to all of you
I need help to find details on the village SKIDEL i think Russia
Regards and thank you
Lazare
__________________________________________________________________
Lazare Berneman
Lazareke >from KOZIENICE


Re: New Birth & Death Records for Mogilev and Rokov #belarus

Tsinman Lara <lara@...>
 

I was delighted to find immediately two birth records of my relatives
among the new added Mogilev records. Unfortunately they do not lead me to
new discoveries.

Lara Tsinman, Israel
Researching Mogilev and Vorotinschina: SHAPIRA, VITKIN, EMDIN, MOROZ,
ROZIN, GENKIN


On Tue, 2 Nov 2004, David M. Fox wrote:

I am happy to report that the following records were just added to the
Belarus Static Index (BSI) <http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/dido/dido.ph=
p>.
These same records will be added to the All Belarus Database (ABD)
<http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/belarus/> during the next quarterly
update.

Hope that some ofyou find your families in these new records. If you do,
please share your successes with the Discussion Group.

Dave
--
David Fox
Mail to: davefox73@earthlink.net
Belarus SIG Coordinator
Arnold, MDUSA
http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus




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Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: New Birth & Death Records for Mogilev and Rokov #belarus

Tsinman Lara <lara@...>
 

I was delighted to find immediately two birth records of my relatives
among the new added Mogilev records. Unfortunately they do not lead me to
new discoveries.

Lara Tsinman, Israel
Researching Mogilev and Vorotinschina: SHAPIRA, VITKIN, EMDIN, MOROZ,
ROZIN, GENKIN


On Tue, 2 Nov 2004, David M. Fox wrote:

I am happy to report that the following records were just added to the
Belarus Static Index (BSI) <http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/dido/dido.ph=
p>.
These same records will be added to the All Belarus Database (ABD)
<http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/belarus/> during the next quarterly
update.

Hope that some ofyou find your families in these new records. If you do,
please share your successes with the Discussion Group.

Dave
--
David Fox
Mail to: davefox73@earthlink.net
Belarus SIG Coordinator
Arnold, MDUSA
http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus




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JGS Greater Miami Nov. 7, Olga Guttman #general

Barbara Musikar <bmusikar@...>
 

When: November 7, 2004 at 10 am

Where: Greater Miami Jewish Federation Building
4200 Biscayne Blvd.
Miami, FL 33137

Program: Olga Guttman will talk about her life as a young girl born in Hungary to
a middle class Orthodox Jewish family. Mrs. Guttman is a Holocaust survivior.
Recently she represented Florida's survivor community at the U.S. Holocaust
Memorial Museum for its tenth anniversary commemoration.

For further information, please contact bar945@hotmail.com.

Barbara Musikar
President JGS of Greater Miami, Inc.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS Greater Miami Nov. 7, Olga Guttman #general

Barbara Musikar <bmusikar@...>
 

When: November 7, 2004 at 10 am

Where: Greater Miami Jewish Federation Building
4200 Biscayne Blvd.
Miami, FL 33137

Program: Olga Guttman will talk about her life as a young girl born in Hungary to
a middle class Orthodox Jewish family. Mrs. Guttman is a Holocaust survivior.
Recently she represented Florida's survivor community at the U.S. Holocaust
Memorial Museum for its tenth anniversary commemoration.

For further information, please contact bar945@hotmail.com.

Barbara Musikar
President JGS of Greater Miami, Inc.


JGS of Georgia November Meeting #general

Sandi Goldsmith
 

Researching Unmarried Ancestors

When: Wednesday, November 10, 2004

Time: 7:30pm

Where: William Breman Museum
1440 Spring Street NW
Atlanta, GA 30309


Ken Thomas, freelance genealogical columnist for the Atlanta Journal Constitution,
will speak about researching unmarried ancestors using his one-of-a-kind
presentation with specific examples based on actual research experience.


Breman members: Free
Non-members: $5. (Please pay at the door.)

Please check our web site for directions and additional information.
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgsg/


Sandi Goldsmith
Alpharetta, GA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS of Georgia November Meeting #general

Sandi Goldsmith
 

Researching Unmarried Ancestors

When: Wednesday, November 10, 2004

Time: 7:30pm

Where: William Breman Museum
1440 Spring Street NW
Atlanta, GA 30309


Ken Thomas, freelance genealogical columnist for the Atlanta Journal Constitution,
will speak about researching unmarried ancestors using his one-of-a-kind
presentation with specific examples based on actual research experience.


Breman members: Free
Non-members: $5. (Please pay at the door.)

Please check our web site for directions and additional information.
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgsg/


Sandi Goldsmith
Alpharetta, GA


SNERCHURSKYs from Pereyaslav, Ukraine #general

Mark and Tamara Shofron
 

My grandmother, Tessie SCHIFF (later SHOFRON), arrived
in the US (NYC) in April of 1906 with her parents
(Avrum SCHIFF and Jenny LEMBERG), several sisters and
a brother. I just received her 1936 naturalization
papers and was surprised to see that the original
family name was not Schiff but SNERCHURSKY!

I would be grateful if anyone is familiar with this
surname or has a connection to Pereyaslav.

Thanks,

Mark Shofron
Mesa, Arizona, USA
SHIFF/SHOFRON/SNERCHURSKY
AARONSON/ROTHSCHILD/STERN


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen SNERCHURSKYs from Pereyaslav, Ukraine #general

Mark and Tamara Shofron
 

My grandmother, Tessie SCHIFF (later SHOFRON), arrived
in the US (NYC) in April of 1906 with her parents
(Avrum SCHIFF and Jenny LEMBERG), several sisters and
a brother. I just received her 1936 naturalization
papers and was surprised to see that the original
family name was not Schiff but SNERCHURSKY!

I would be grateful if anyone is familiar with this
surname or has a connection to Pereyaslav.

Thanks,

Mark Shofron
Mesa, Arizona, USA
SHIFF/SHOFRON/SNERCHURSKY
AARONSON/ROTHSCHILD/STERN


Tweendeck #general

Barbara Zimmer <bravo.zulu@...>
 

Subject: Viewmate #4935
From: "ilyaz" <ilyaz@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 22:16:08 GMT
X-Message-Number: 38

I have posted a fragment of a Passenger list on Viewmate. It's a notation
that such and such passengers are "Tweendeck". What that means? Never before
have I seen or heard about such notation in the passenger lists.
The image is VM 4935 and the direct URLs to it is
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=4935

Thank you for your suggestions.
----
Ilya Zeldes
Fort Myers, Florida


Definition found on line: Tweendeck
Cargo-carrying surface below the main deck dividing a hold
horizontally in an upper and a lower compartment.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Tweendeck #general

Barbara Zimmer <bravo.zulu@...>
 

Subject: Viewmate #4935
From: "ilyaz" <ilyaz@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 22:16:08 GMT
X-Message-Number: 38

I have posted a fragment of a Passenger list on Viewmate. It's a notation
that such and such passengers are "Tweendeck". What that means? Never before
have I seen or heard about such notation in the passenger lists.
The image is VM 4935 and the direct URLs to it is
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=4935

Thank you for your suggestions.
----
Ilya Zeldes
Fort Myers, Florida


Definition found on line: Tweendeck
Cargo-carrying surface below the main deck dividing a hold
horizontally in an upper and a lower compartment.