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Re: Berlin Addressbook for various years - LEBURG #germany

pirlau@...
 

Not a logical explanation, but there are simply many errors in the
directories. I have often come accross people "disappearing" for one or
more years.

If I remember correctly, >from some point on the telephone numbers
weren't included any more in the address directories but only in the
telephone directories. You can find out by comparing "your" entries with
other entries with telephone numbers.

The findings >from the Berlin address directories always need some
interpretation based on experience and other sources.

Markus Röhling, Berlin pirlau@gmx.net

A & B Algaze wrote:

A fellow Gersigger has found the name of my grandmother (Ella LEBURG) in the
online Berlin Addressbook http://adressbuch.zlb.de/ for the years of
1925 through 1932 living at W 50, Pragerstrasse 8. For the years of 1933
and 1934 there is no listing and then she reappears in the years of 1935
through 1939 at the same address.
The only difference in the listings is that in the earlier years her
telephone number was listed, and in the later years there is only a capital
"T" listed, with no number.
Does anyone have a logical explanation for this phenomenon? Any suggestions
will be entertained. Thank you.


German SIG #Germany Re: Berlin Addressbook for various years - LEBURG #germany

pirlau@...
 

Not a logical explanation, but there are simply many errors in the
directories. I have often come accross people "disappearing" for one or
more years.

If I remember correctly, >from some point on the telephone numbers
weren't included any more in the address directories but only in the
telephone directories. You can find out by comparing "your" entries with
other entries with telephone numbers.

The findings >from the Berlin address directories always need some
interpretation based on experience and other sources.

Markus Röhling, Berlin pirlau@gmx.net

A & B Algaze wrote:

A fellow Gersigger has found the name of my grandmother (Ella LEBURG) in the
online Berlin Addressbook http://adressbuch.zlb.de/ for the years of
1925 through 1932 living at W 50, Pragerstrasse 8. For the years of 1933
and 1934 there is no listing and then she reappears in the years of 1935
through 1939 at the same address.
The only difference in the listings is that in the earlier years her
telephone number was listed, and in the later years there is only a capital
"T" listed, with no number.
Does anyone have a logical explanation for this phenomenon? Any suggestions
will be entertained. Thank you.


PESHA 'S Karanavicen NEXT STEP- searching a SALAKAS relative #lithuania

shapie@...
 

I want to thank although who translated the envelope sent to my
grandmother . it seems to read
Pes(h)e Karanavicene
Salakas zarasu apt
Baznegcu gve
Letuvai

this is very inserting since my grandmother's first cousin was also
Pesha. Obviously they were cousins. Besides checking JGFF want other
information can I gain via the web to trace this family??/

Yisroel Yonasan SHAPIRO

searching >from Lithuania
GORDON, MUNITZ, STERN


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania PESHA 'S Karanavicen NEXT STEP- searching a SALAKAS relative #lithuania

shapie@...
 

I want to thank although who translated the envelope sent to my
grandmother . it seems to read
Pes(h)e Karanavicene
Salakas zarasu apt
Baznegcu gve
Letuvai

this is very inserting since my grandmother's first cousin was also
Pesha. Obviously they were cousins. Besides checking JGFF want other
information can I gain via the web to trace this family??/

Yisroel Yonasan SHAPIRO

searching >from Lithuania
GORDON, MUNITZ, STERN


2005 conference #france

Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@...>
 

SUBJECT: The 2005 IAJGS Conference

Under the direction of our chairman, Michael Brenner, the JGS of
Southern Nevada is proud to announce that we will be on line with
information on the coming conference. As of November 7th, our web site
will be up and running and on November 25th, the registration form will
also be available on line and in downloadable format.

Carole Montello, the program chairman and her committee have lined up an
outstanding program with many new faces and subjects. She is working
closely with Davida Noyek Handler who is our SIG Coordinator and is also
doing the Daily Planner.

Carole will be issuing a call for papers on Nov. 15th. Information will
be available on our web site.

Go to www.jgssn.org and click on the link to Conference information and
a link to web registration, hotel registration


French SIG #France 2005 conference #france

Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@...>
 

SUBJECT: The 2005 IAJGS Conference

Under the direction of our chairman, Michael Brenner, the JGS of
Southern Nevada is proud to announce that we will be on line with
information on the coming conference. As of November 7th, our web site
will be up and running and on November 25th, the registration form will
also be available on line and in downloadable format.

Carole Montello, the program chairman and her committee have lined up an
outstanding program with many new faces and subjects. She is working
closely with Davida Noyek Handler who is our SIG Coordinator and is also
doing the Daily Planner.

Carole will be issuing a call for papers on Nov. 15th. Information will
be available on our web site.

Go to www.jgssn.org and click on the link to Conference information and
a link to web registration, hotel registration


Re: litvaksig digest: November 01, 2004 #lithuania

ROBERT WEISS
 

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In a message dated 11/1/04 10:45:02 PM, Joel Ratner writes:



Vital Records Lectures

Bergen County, New Jersey ; in discussion

Any amplification on this item? Years? Vital Records or stories? Data
source(s)?

Thanks,

Bob Weiss
Researching WOLPERT Family of Bergen County 1910-


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: litvaksig digest: November 01, 2004 #lithuania

ROBERT WEISS
 

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In a message dated 11/1/04 10:45:02 PM, Joel Ratner writes:



Vital Records Lectures

Bergen County, New Jersey ; in discussion

Any amplification on this item? Years? Vital Records or stories? Data
source(s)?

Thanks,

Bob Weiss
Researching WOLPERT Family of Bergen County 1910-


Hello #poland

Berneman Lazare <lazare.berneman@...>
 

Hello to all of you
I need help to find details on the village SKIDEL i think Russia
Regards and thank you
Lazare
__________________________________________________________________
Lazare Berneman
Lazareke >from KOZIENICE
__________________________________________________________________


JRI Poland #Poland Hello #poland

Berneman Lazare <lazare.berneman@...>
 

Hello to all of you
I need help to find details on the village SKIDEL i think Russia
Regards and thank you
Lazare
__________________________________________________________________
Lazare Berneman
Lazareke >from KOZIENICE
__________________________________________________________________


Re: RECOGIZING 2 TOWN NAMES #poland

Hadassah Lipsius <kesher@...>
 

I vote (the second time I voted today), that Janischok is Joniskis,
Lithuania. My great-grandmother was born there and she pronounced it as
Yanischok. It is near Siauliai.

Hadassah Lipsius
Kew Gardens Hills, NY

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


The Hamburg ship lists had 1891 records giving as the place of original
residence for one relative as Bobransk and for another his place of
original residence as Janischok.

Any ideas? Thanks.

Stephen Denker
Brookline, MA


JRI Poland #Poland RE: RE:RECOGIZING 2 TOWN NAMES #poland

Hadassah Lipsius <kesher@...>
 

I vote (the second time I voted today), that Janischok is Joniskis,
Lithuania. My great-grandmother was born there and she pronounced it as
Yanischok. It is near Siauliai.

Hadassah Lipsius
Kew Gardens Hills, NY

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


The Hamburg ship lists had 1891 records giving as the place of original
residence for one relative as Bobransk and for another his place of
original residence as Janischok.

Any ideas? Thanks.

Stephen Denker
Brookline, MA


Hamburg Passenger Lists 1867 arriving Britain #poland

Robin J. McCaig <robin.mccaig@...>
 

Can anyone tell me where I should apply for a copy of this list.

Many thanks.

Helen P McCaig

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately, since this topic is
not within the scope of JRI-Poland's list.


JRI Poland #Poland Hamburg Passenger Lists 1867 arriving Britain #poland

Robin J. McCaig <robin.mccaig@...>
 

Can anyone tell me where I should apply for a copy of this list.

Many thanks.

Helen P McCaig

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately, since this topic is
not within the scope of JRI-Poland's list.


Help Needed to Locate Family in Israel #general

Sharen Hogarth
 

I previously posted re locating my cousin Shmulik DOKTOROV/DOCTOROV in
Kiryat-Shmona & a kind Genner provided a telephone number for his wife, Klara. The
number unfortunately was no longer in service. I then decided to write to an
address that I was given for them... that was in July & as yet I have had no
response.

Therefore, I am wondering if there is anyone in the group who knows of the family
or lives in the Kiryat-Shmona area & would be able to contact them for me.

I would be most grateful for any assistance.

Please respond privately to mailto:sjhogarth@cogeco.ca

Sharen Hogarth
Ontario, Canada


Re: adoption and conversion #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 11/1/2004 9:27:39 AM Eastern Standard Time,
DebWE308@aol.com writes:

< A distant relative married a women who was adopted and grew up in a Jewish
Conservative home in NJ. Her parents told her that the biological mother was
Jewish. She grew up and married my relative by a Conservative Rabbi. They have 2
children. Now when the oldest child is to become a Bar Mitzvah, the Orthodox
Rabbi is demanding proof of the mother being Jewish.>

==I am not a rabbi nor a scholar and can speak only as a layman about the
experiences of others in similar situations that have come to my attention.

==You need to use a little caution. Rabbis, like judges, are reluctant to overrule
a colleague. I suggest you find a rabbi you really trust, whom you're not
expecting to perform the "conversion," and ask him to ask around in confidence to
find someone who will perform the ceremony. It shouldn't be difficult since the
boys have been studying and observing Judaism all their lives: they will need to
be questioned briefly on what they know of Judaism, will be asked to accept
Judaism, and will be required to immerse in the mikveh. Sometimes it may also be
necessary to draw a drop of blood >from the stump of the foreskin.

==You may even find a rabbi who will rule that infant circumcision by a
God-fearing mohel constituted a "milah leshem giyur", i.e. the circmcision
automatically converted the infant. As for "converting" a Jew, that shouldn't be
much of a problem; the Israeli rabbinate frequently arranges symbolic conversions
for immigrnts ">from the lost tribes," whose Jewishness may be uncertain.

Michael Bernet, New York
***
MODERATOR NOTE: Further responses should be sent privately.


Harry SEVEL #general

Sandra Yoder
 

The name of Harry SEVEL appears as a witness on my gparent's marriage certificate.
They married in the Bronx in 1915.
Harry is listed in the 1930 census in SanYsidro, CA at age 42, coming to America
in 1905 (born about 1888). His father was born in Latvia and mother in Germany.
If you know of him, please contact me.
Thank you
Sandra Yoder
Goshen IN


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help Needed to Locate Family in Israel #general

Sharen Hogarth
 

I previously posted re locating my cousin Shmulik DOKTOROV/DOCTOROV in
Kiryat-Shmona & a kind Genner provided a telephone number for his wife, Klara. The
number unfortunately was no longer in service. I then decided to write to an
address that I was given for them... that was in July & as yet I have had no
response.

Therefore, I am wondering if there is anyone in the group who knows of the family
or lives in the Kiryat-Shmona area & would be able to contact them for me.

I would be most grateful for any assistance.

Please respond privately to mailto:sjhogarth@cogeco.ca

Sharen Hogarth
Ontario, Canada


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: adoption and conversion #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 11/1/2004 9:27:39 AM Eastern Standard Time,
DebWE308@aol.com writes:

< A distant relative married a women who was adopted and grew up in a Jewish
Conservative home in NJ. Her parents told her that the biological mother was
Jewish. She grew up and married my relative by a Conservative Rabbi. They have 2
children. Now when the oldest child is to become a Bar Mitzvah, the Orthodox
Rabbi is demanding proof of the mother being Jewish.>

==I am not a rabbi nor a scholar and can speak only as a layman about the
experiences of others in similar situations that have come to my attention.

==You need to use a little caution. Rabbis, like judges, are reluctant to overrule
a colleague. I suggest you find a rabbi you really trust, whom you're not
expecting to perform the "conversion," and ask him to ask around in confidence to
find someone who will perform the ceremony. It shouldn't be difficult since the
boys have been studying and observing Judaism all their lives: they will need to
be questioned briefly on what they know of Judaism, will be asked to accept
Judaism, and will be required to immerse in the mikveh. Sometimes it may also be
necessary to draw a drop of blood >from the stump of the foreskin.

==You may even find a rabbi who will rule that infant circumcision by a
God-fearing mohel constituted a "milah leshem giyur", i.e. the circmcision
automatically converted the infant. As for "converting" a Jew, that shouldn't be
much of a problem; the Israeli rabbinate frequently arranges symbolic conversions
for immigrnts ">from the lost tribes," whose Jewishness may be uncertain.

Michael Bernet, New York
***
MODERATOR NOTE: Further responses should be sent privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Harry SEVEL #general

Sandra Yoder
 

The name of Harry SEVEL appears as a witness on my gparent's marriage certificate.
They married in the Bronx in 1915.
Harry is listed in the 1930 census in SanYsidro, CA at age 42, coming to America
in 1905 (born about 1888). His father was born in Latvia and mother in Germany.
If you know of him, please contact me.
Thank you
Sandra Yoder
Goshen IN