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IGS Negev Branch- January 7 lecture #general

Lea Haber Gedalia <leahgedalia53@...>
 

Dear Genners
Negev branch of IGS will gather for the January lecture on January 7,2013.
Lecturer will be Chana Furman who will speak about " Jewish Sparkles in the
Amazon Valley, Brazil"
Gathering at "Yona Home for the elderly", 2 Dori Str. Beer Sheva at 18:30.
Join us
Lea Haber Gedalia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen IGS Negev Branch- January 7 lecture #general

Lea Haber Gedalia <leahgedalia53@...>
 

Dear Genners
Negev branch of IGS will gather for the January lecture on January 7,2013.
Lecturer will be Chana Furman who will speak about " Jewish Sparkles in the
Amazon Valley, Brazil"
Gathering at "Yona Home for the elderly", 2 Dori Str. Beer Sheva at 18:30.
Join us
Lea Haber Gedalia


Klaus LEWYN, Breslau-Paris-Lisbon-Honduras #germany

George J. Fogelson
 

I am searching for information about Klaus LEWYN born in about 1920 in
Breslau. He moved to Paris and in August 1940 left Lisbon for New York en
route to Honduras.

Any information please contact George Fogelson fogelson@alum.calberkeley.org

George Fogelson, Redondo Beach, California


German SIG #Germany Klaus LEWYN, Breslau-Paris-Lisbon-Honduras #germany

George J. Fogelson
 

I am searching for information about Klaus LEWYN born in about 1920 in
Breslau. He moved to Paris and in August 1940 left Lisbon for New York en
route to Honduras.

Any information please contact George Fogelson fogelson@alum.calberkeley.org

George Fogelson, Redondo Beach, California


Re: Crimea: Simperopol Archive #ukraine

rondoctor@...
 

Hi Manuel,


Crimea and Simferopol both are part of Ukraine SIG's areas. To identify
resources for Simferopol, you should check the list that is in the
Ukraine SIG InfoSheet "Finding Records for your town". This and other
InfoSheets are downloadable >from the Ukraine SIG website Research menu
(http://www.jewishgen.org/ukraine/RES_Infosheets.asp#T). Go to the "Town
Research and Town Leaders" section. Two of the important resources
listed are Miriam Weiner's RTR Foundation (www.rtrfoundation.org) and
the Mormon Family History Library (www.familysearch.org). Both list
documents that may help you.


The RTR Foundation website identifies archives that hold birth, death,
divorce, marriage, Holocaust, and school records for Simferopol and
provides details about which records are in the archives. The site also
provides guidance for contacting the Archives and inquiring about how
to obtain records.


FamilySearch indicates that the Family History Library has Jewish vital
records for 1853-1917 on 36 microfilm reels, and revision list (census)
records for 1934-1878 on one microfilm reel. For links and details about
these resources take a look at the Simferopol Town Page on the Ukraine
SIG website. To get to the Town Page, do a town name search for
Simferopol >from the search box that is at the upper right corner of
every page on the website.


In addition, the JewishGen Family Finder (JGFF) lists 80 people who are
researching Simferopol. You should contact them, not only to ask about
connections to your family, but also to find out what records they have
obtained that might be useful to you. Please be sure to let me know if
you obtain any of these "Collected Records" so that we can add them to
our "Collected Records" dataset.


Ukraine SIG is about to begin a project to digitize and translate FHL
microfilms that contain Jewish records. Please let me know if you wish
to be involved in this exciting new project. Many LDS Family History
Centers now have microfilm scanners that allow you to digitize all or
part of a microfilm that you have ordered into the FHC. Once the records
are digitized we can assist you in getting them translated. I invite
you, and anyone else reading this, to participate in this very important
project.


Good luck with your research ... and please be sure to let us know how
you make outwith your family history research.


Ron


Ron Doctor (rddpdx@gmail.com)
Coordinator, JewishGen Ukraine SIG
www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine
where Jewish genealogy is personal

Researching DOCTOR (DIOKHTER), VARER, AVERBAKH, KORENFELD ... all >from Kremenets, Oleksinets, Yampol, Vishnevets
and KAZDOY (KOSODOY), DUBINSKI, DUBOWSKY ... all >from Kiev, Uman, Odessa

On 04-Jan-13 4:31 AM, Manuel Meersohn wrote:
Dear Friends,

Hola Pristan the town in which my beloved grandfather Meier Meyerson
was born on the 18th of December 1884 was not located in Ukraine as I
thought. It did belong to Crimea at the time of my grandfather so
according to the information I have, Simperopol Archive is my best
shot to find information regarding my grandfather. Unfortunately
nobody speaks English in that Archive and I do not know any researcher
in today's Autonomous Republic of Crimea. Do any of you have any
suggestions regarding the Simperopol Archive? Does Crimea in Jewishgen
belong to Ukraine or does exist a different group following Crimea?
Thanks in advanced. Manuel

Manuel Meersohn manuel.meersohn@gmail.com


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Crimea: Simperopol Archive #ukraine

rondoctor@...
 

Hi Manuel,


Crimea and Simferopol both are part of Ukraine SIG's areas. To identify
resources for Simferopol, you should check the list that is in the
Ukraine SIG InfoSheet "Finding Records for your town". This and other
InfoSheets are downloadable >from the Ukraine SIG website Research menu
(http://www.jewishgen.org/ukraine/RES_Infosheets.asp#T). Go to the "Town
Research and Town Leaders" section. Two of the important resources
listed are Miriam Weiner's RTR Foundation (www.rtrfoundation.org) and
the Mormon Family History Library (www.familysearch.org). Both list
documents that may help you.


The RTR Foundation website identifies archives that hold birth, death,
divorce, marriage, Holocaust, and school records for Simferopol and
provides details about which records are in the archives. The site also
provides guidance for contacting the Archives and inquiring about how
to obtain records.


FamilySearch indicates that the Family History Library has Jewish vital
records for 1853-1917 on 36 microfilm reels, and revision list (census)
records for 1934-1878 on one microfilm reel. For links and details about
these resources take a look at the Simferopol Town Page on the Ukraine
SIG website. To get to the Town Page, do a town name search for
Simferopol >from the search box that is at the upper right corner of
every page on the website.


In addition, the JewishGen Family Finder (JGFF) lists 80 people who are
researching Simferopol. You should contact them, not only to ask about
connections to your family, but also to find out what records they have
obtained that might be useful to you. Please be sure to let me know if
you obtain any of these "Collected Records" so that we can add them to
our "Collected Records" dataset.


Ukraine SIG is about to begin a project to digitize and translate FHL
microfilms that contain Jewish records. Please let me know if you wish
to be involved in this exciting new project. Many LDS Family History
Centers now have microfilm scanners that allow you to digitize all or
part of a microfilm that you have ordered into the FHC. Once the records
are digitized we can assist you in getting them translated. I invite
you, and anyone else reading this, to participate in this very important
project.


Good luck with your research ... and please be sure to let us know how
you make outwith your family history research.


Ron


Ron Doctor (rddpdx@gmail.com)
Coordinator, JewishGen Ukraine SIG
www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine
where Jewish genealogy is personal

Researching DOCTOR (DIOKHTER), VARER, AVERBAKH, KORENFELD ... all >from Kremenets, Oleksinets, Yampol, Vishnevets
and KAZDOY (KOSODOY), DUBINSKI, DUBOWSKY ... all >from Kiev, Uman, Odessa

On 04-Jan-13 4:31 AM, Manuel Meersohn wrote:
Dear Friends,

Hola Pristan the town in which my beloved grandfather Meier Meyerson
was born on the 18th of December 1884 was not located in Ukraine as I
thought. It did belong to Crimea at the time of my grandfather so
according to the information I have, Simperopol Archive is my best
shot to find information regarding my grandfather. Unfortunately
nobody speaks English in that Archive and I do not know any researcher
in today's Autonomous Republic of Crimea. Do any of you have any
suggestions regarding the Simperopol Archive? Does Crimea in Jewishgen
belong to Ukraine or does exist a different group following Crimea?
Thanks in advanced. Manuel

Manuel Meersohn manuel.meersohn@gmail.com


Re: The name Stammer #ukraine

rondoctor@...
 

Sabine,

Be sure to check the Ostrog and Odessa Town Pages on the Ukraine SIG
website. Also, check the KehilaLinks pages for the two towns.


A 1795 Census for Ostrog has been translated and is searchable
through the JewishGen Ukraine Database. It has several thousand
entries. There also is an enormous amount of data available for
Odessa... on the Odessa KehilaLinks website.

Ron

Ron Doctor (rddpdx@gmail.com)
Coordinator, JewishGen Ukraine SIG
www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine
where Jewish genealogy is personal

Researching DOCTOR (DIOKHTER), VARER, AVERBAKH, KORENFELD ... all >from Kremenets, Oleksinets, Yampol, Vishnevets
and KAZDOY (KOSODOY), DUBINSKI, DUBOWSKY ... all >from Kiev, Uman, Odessa

On 04-Jan-13 2:43 AM, Sabine Schmidt wrote:
I am searching for information about my great grandparents Leib STAMMER,
born 1859 >from Ostrog,
And his wife Liba Leiserovna Pamu, born 1862 >from Odessa. They married
1880 in Odessa and had about 12 children. (Brana 1881,Rivka 1883, Nachman
1885, Pesya/Polina (my grandmother) 1886, Sioma 1893, Israel 1898, Dvoyra,
1902...)

It is said Leib and Liba were killed because salt was found on their ground
and most of the children left Odessa where they all lived. My grandmother
Polina gave birth to my father in Leipzig 1910.
I so much want to know what really happened, where they are buried and so
on.
Is it possible to find someone who can search for me in Odessa.
I would come to Odessa myself if I had a chance to search somewhere.
Hope someone can help me.

Sabine Schmidt
Cologne, Germany


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: The name Stammer #ukraine

rondoctor@...
 

Sabine,

Be sure to check the Ostrog and Odessa Town Pages on the Ukraine SIG
website. Also, check the KehilaLinks pages for the two towns.


A 1795 Census for Ostrog has been translated and is searchable
through the JewishGen Ukraine Database. It has several thousand
entries. There also is an enormous amount of data available for
Odessa... on the Odessa KehilaLinks website.

Ron

Ron Doctor (rddpdx@gmail.com)
Coordinator, JewishGen Ukraine SIG
www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine
where Jewish genealogy is personal

Researching DOCTOR (DIOKHTER), VARER, AVERBAKH, KORENFELD ... all >from Kremenets, Oleksinets, Yampol, Vishnevets
and KAZDOY (KOSODOY), DUBINSKI, DUBOWSKY ... all >from Kiev, Uman, Odessa

On 04-Jan-13 2:43 AM, Sabine Schmidt wrote:
I am searching for information about my great grandparents Leib STAMMER,
born 1859 >from Ostrog,
And his wife Liba Leiserovna Pamu, born 1862 >from Odessa. They married
1880 in Odessa and had about 12 children. (Brana 1881,Rivka 1883, Nachman
1885, Pesya/Polina (my grandmother) 1886, Sioma 1893, Israel 1898, Dvoyra,
1902...)

It is said Leib and Liba were killed because salt was found on their ground
and most of the children left Odessa where they all lived. My grandmother
Polina gave birth to my father in Leipzig 1910.
I so much want to know what really happened, where they are buried and so
on.
Is it possible to find someone who can search for me in Odessa.
I would come to Odessa myself if I had a chance to search somewhere.
Hope someone can help me.

Sabine Schmidt
Cologne, Germany


Searching for descendants of ESTRANGED Benjamin GRAU and his son Frederick GRAU #poland

Connie Malone
 

I am searching for the descendants of Benjamin Grau. >from his passenger
list, Benjamin, a butcher, arrived in New York in November 1911, as Pinkus
GRAU, >from Kuty, Poland (formerly Poland, Galicia, Austrian Empire; Kuty
today in the Ukraine).

Benjamin was born sometime 1894-1895 in Kuty. His father was Moses GRAU,
a butcher. My mother said he was the youngest of 7 known children:
Mordecai (born 1880), Welwel (born 1885; Henny (born 1887), Miriam (born
1890), Joseph (born 1892, died 1972), and twins Rachel and Rivka. Hearsay,
we believe Benjamin died shortly after Joseph's death.

I emphasize "ESTRANGED Benjamin" because sometime after the 1925 New York
census and before the 1930 US Federal Census, he left his wife, Rose, and
his son, Frederick, also known as "Freddy," and may have gone to California.
Benjamin did not want his family to know his whereabouts. The only people
who remained in contact with Benjamin were his brother Joseph (a
self-employed jeweler/watchmaker) and Joseph's wife Celia. It's possible
he may have changed his name and may even have another family, I just don't
know.

Benjamin's son, Frederick, was born possibly September 1919 in New York.
Benjamin's wife, Rose, born about 1895 in Poland. >from census records,
Benjamin, self-employed as a butcher, and the family resided in New York on
39th St, Brooklyn in 1920; Prospect Ave, Bronx, in 1925; and 47th St,
Brooklyn in 1930. Brother Joseph and Celia lived on Flushing St, Forest
Hills, Queens, New York.

Please reply to connie.malone@cox.net.

Connie Malone
La Mesa, San Diego, California

Researching:
ZWIEBACK (Vienna, Austria; Kuty, Stanislawow, Poland/Ukraine);
GRAU (Kuty, Poland/Ukraine; Israel; USA);
SENDER (Kuty, Stanislawow, Poland /Ukraine; USA);
OREN (Israel);
MINSTER (Kuty, Poland /Ukraine);
VERNEY (London, United Kingdom); SULLIVAN (Cork, Ireland/London, United
Kingdom).
And all variant spellings.


JRI Poland #Poland Searching for descendants of ESTRANGED Benjamin GRAU and his son Frederick GRAU #poland

Connie Malone
 

I am searching for the descendants of Benjamin Grau. >from his passenger
list, Benjamin, a butcher, arrived in New York in November 1911, as Pinkus
GRAU, >from Kuty, Poland (formerly Poland, Galicia, Austrian Empire; Kuty
today in the Ukraine).

Benjamin was born sometime 1894-1895 in Kuty. His father was Moses GRAU,
a butcher. My mother said he was the youngest of 7 known children:
Mordecai (born 1880), Welwel (born 1885; Henny (born 1887), Miriam (born
1890), Joseph (born 1892, died 1972), and twins Rachel and Rivka. Hearsay,
we believe Benjamin died shortly after Joseph's death.

I emphasize "ESTRANGED Benjamin" because sometime after the 1925 New York
census and before the 1930 US Federal Census, he left his wife, Rose, and
his son, Frederick, also known as "Freddy," and may have gone to California.
Benjamin did not want his family to know his whereabouts. The only people
who remained in contact with Benjamin were his brother Joseph (a
self-employed jeweler/watchmaker) and Joseph's wife Celia. It's possible
he may have changed his name and may even have another family, I just don't
know.

Benjamin's son, Frederick, was born possibly September 1919 in New York.
Benjamin's wife, Rose, born about 1895 in Poland. >from census records,
Benjamin, self-employed as a butcher, and the family resided in New York on
39th St, Brooklyn in 1920; Prospect Ave, Bronx, in 1925; and 47th St,
Brooklyn in 1930. Brother Joseph and Celia lived on Flushing St, Forest
Hills, Queens, New York.

Please reply to connie.malone@cox.net.

Connie Malone
La Mesa, San Diego, California

Researching:
ZWIEBACK (Vienna, Austria; Kuty, Stanislawow, Poland/Ukraine);
GRAU (Kuty, Poland/Ukraine; Israel; USA);
SENDER (Kuty, Stanislawow, Poland /Ukraine; USA);
OREN (Israel);
MINSTER (Kuty, Poland /Ukraine);
VERNEY (London, United Kingdom); SULLIVAN (Cork, Ireland/London, United
Kingdom).
And all variant spellings.


Kindertransport survivors story in LA Times, 4 January, 2013 #germany

John Paul Lowens <jplowens@...>
 

The Los Angeles Times, January 4, 2013 has an article on the gathering
of kindertransport survivors- some now in their late 80s --meeting to
keep their stories alive especially for their grandchildren, great
grandchildren and the public. Some of the children were taken in by
loving families while others became labor for the families that took
them and the aftermath is still with them. The gathering was put
together by the next generation, in effect "passing the torch" to the
next generation called KT2.

To read the article see: http://tinyurl.com/bl2yhuy
original url:
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-kindertransport-20130104,0,1276347.story

Thanks to IAJGS President Jan Meisels Allen for this citation.

John Paul Lowens, JGS of Long Island, New York


German SIG #Germany Kindertransport survivors story in LA Times, 4 January, 2013 #germany

John Paul Lowens <jplowens@...>
 

The Los Angeles Times, January 4, 2013 has an article on the gathering
of kindertransport survivors- some now in their late 80s --meeting to
keep their stories alive especially for their grandchildren, great
grandchildren and the public. Some of the children were taken in by
loving families while others became labor for the families that took
them and the aftermath is still with them. The gathering was put
together by the next generation, in effect "passing the torch" to the
next generation called KT2.

To read the article see: http://tinyurl.com/bl2yhuy
original url:
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-kindertransport-20130104,0,1276347.story

Thanks to IAJGS President Jan Meisels Allen for this citation.

John Paul Lowens, JGS of Long Island, New York


[UK] RAF Museum to Digitize World War I Records #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Thousands of World War 1 records will be digitized and put on the web with a
new project at the Royal Air Force (RAF) Museum in Hendron, England. The
project entails digitizing over 300,000 records >from the RAF and its parent
organization, the Royal Flying Corps (RFC) and Royal Naval Air Service
(RNAS) between 1914-1918. When completed one will be able to search by name
and download the records >from the website. Of interest are the "casualty
cards" which were made out in the event of death, injury and illness. The
"cards" have been available for review on site since the 1970s--digitizing
them makes it much easier for many to access the information. The data
release is scheduled to coincide with the new permanent exhibition for the
centenary of the outbreak of WWI in 2014.

To read more about the pending digitization see: http://tinyurl.com/b4wn2ml
original url:
http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/news/raf-museum-digitise-ww1-records

To see the museum's website go to: www.rafmuseum.org.uk

Thank you to Dear Myrtle Your friend in genealogy for alerting us to this
new WWI online source of records.

Jan Meisels Allen
IAJGS Vice President
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen [UK] RAF Museum to Digitize World War I Records #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Thousands of World War 1 records will be digitized and put on the web with a
new project at the Royal Air Force (RAF) Museum in Hendron, England. The
project entails digitizing over 300,000 records >from the RAF and its parent
organization, the Royal Flying Corps (RFC) and Royal Naval Air Service
(RNAS) between 1914-1918. When completed one will be able to search by name
and download the records >from the website. Of interest are the "casualty
cards" which were made out in the event of death, injury and illness. The
"cards" have been available for review on site since the 1970s--digitizing
them makes it much easier for many to access the information. The data
release is scheduled to coincide with the new permanent exhibition for the
centenary of the outbreak of WWI in 2014.

To read more about the pending digitization see: http://tinyurl.com/b4wn2ml
original url:
http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/news/raf-museum-digitise-ww1-records

To see the museum's website go to: www.rafmuseum.org.uk

Thank you to Dear Myrtle Your friend in genealogy for alerting us to this
new WWI online source of records.

Jan Meisels Allen
IAJGS Vice President
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Article On Kindertransport Children Gathering and The Aging of These Rescued Children #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

The Los Angeles Times, January 4, 2013 has an article on the gathering of
kindertransport survivors- some now in their late 80s --meeting to keep
their stories alive especially for their grandchildren, great grandchildren
and the public. Some of the children were taken in by loving families while
others became labor for the families that took them and the aftermath is
still with them. The gathering was put together by the next generation, in
effect "passing the torch" to the next generation called KT2.

To read the article see: http://tinyurl.com/bl2yhuy
original url:
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-kindertransport-20130104,0,1276347.story

Jan Meisels Allen
IAJGS Vice President
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Article On Kindertransport Children Gathering and The Aging of These Rescued Children #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

The Los Angeles Times, January 4, 2013 has an article on the gathering of
kindertransport survivors- some now in their late 80s --meeting to keep
their stories alive especially for their grandchildren, great grandchildren
and the public. Some of the children were taken in by loving families while
others became labor for the families that took them and the aftermath is
still with them. The gathering was put together by the next generation, in
effect "passing the torch" to the next generation called KT2.

To read the article see: http://tinyurl.com/bl2yhuy
original url:
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-kindertransport-20130104,0,1276347.story

Jan Meisels Allen
IAJGS Vice President
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


German Communities: Status report #germany

Lande
 

As we start 2013 I thought the following status report on the German
communities project might be of interest:

Data >from 46 communities has been entered into the database, with the number
of names >from each community ranging >from 1-451.
This does not count communities which for various reasons did not provide
information.

While there are still some earlier communities being processed, we are
beginning communities beginning with the letter G.

Over 5,000 names are currently available on Steve Morse's website and will
be available on JewishGen. When searching the Morse website be sure to
click on the person's name or, on the extreme right side of the field on
"details" to see what happened to that individual, e.g. emigrated, deported,
moved, etc.

Many thanks to all who have participated and, I hope, will continue to
participate.

Peter Lande, Washington, D.C. pdlande@starpower.net


German SIG #Germany German Communities: Status report #germany

Lande
 

As we start 2013 I thought the following status report on the German
communities project might be of interest:

Data >from 46 communities has been entered into the database, with the number
of names >from each community ranging >from 1-451.
This does not count communities which for various reasons did not provide
information.

While there are still some earlier communities being processed, we are
beginning communities beginning with the letter G.

Over 5,000 names are currently available on Steve Morse's website and will
be available on JewishGen. When searching the Morse website be sure to
click on the person's name or, on the extreme right side of the field on
"details" to see what happened to that individual, e.g. emigrated, deported,
moved, etc.

Many thanks to all who have participated and, I hope, will continue to
participate.

Peter Lande, Washington, D.C. pdlande@starpower.net


Re: FISEL, KAHN (Iasi) and ROCHMAN (Bucuresti) #romania

Bob Wascou
 

The best place to search is the Romanian database at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Romania/ . You will find records
for the names of the people you are looking for. Look for the people
in all of the locations and not just Iasi and Bucharest. People moved
around and could have moved to other locations especially during the
wars and with marriage. Wherever possible do not use exact search for
the family names because they could have been transcribed differently
than the exact name because of bad handwriting.

Check out the online Romanian white pages phone directory. There is a
person by the name of FISEL listed there. I found a cousin in Iasi
that way.

Check out Google.com . I also found a cousin in Kishinev that way. You
never know what you night find.

Ask other relatives and keep track of their information. You might
find information on distant relatives. Keep track of other people with
the names that you are searching even if you cannot place them on your
tree as you might find a connection later.

In addition ROM-SIG is in the process of obtaining and translating
birth, marriage and death records >from Iasi. To help transcribe these
records fill out the form at http://tinyurl.com/vol-transcriber .

To help us get more records please donate to the Iasi County Records
Project at http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?pr=
oject_cat=3D20

Because there is up to a two month delay before we get the financial
report and we want to get the records as soon as possible please tell
us what you donated for at ttp://tinyurl.com/R-S-Donations . This way
we can start to get more records >from Iasi.

Bob Wascou
ROM-SIG Research Coordinator

On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Rick Fisel <rfisel@gmail.com> wrote:


I recently joined this list, so I thought I would put out some family inf=
ormation and hope to find some more.

I am working >from my grandparents' naturalization dossiers >from France, d=
ated Feb 1928. They were named Fisel FISEL and Ernestina ROCHMAN. They show=
my grandfather's parents as David FISEL (born about 1868), and Rachel KAHN=
(deceased), of Iasi. Also mentioned in the dossier are a FISEL daughter in=
Paris, Anna, born about 1886, who took the married name EPSTEIN, two other=
unnamed FISEL daughters still alive in Romania, and one unnamed FISEL son =
who died in World War I in Romania. Since the French appeared to be interes=
ted in potential soldiers, my grandfather may have left the impression that=
his brother was in the Romanian military when he may have been a civilian =
casualty. My grandmother's parents were Froim ROCHMAN (deceased) and Fanie =
ROCHMAN (born about 1858) of Bucuresti. No information about any siblings i=
n my grandmother's case, nor her mother's maiden name, but this may reflect=
a neglect of women's data in France at that time.

My grandfather was deported to Auschwitz, but the rest of the family in F=
rance survived. This dossier opens up the possibility of a significant numb=
er of relatives in Romania, and I'm very interested in whether any survived=
the Holocaust and where they ended up. I'm also interested, of course, in =
generations further back.

I have already consulted the JewishGen Romania collection and found no cl=
early relevant info. I've also checked familysearch.org and ancestry.com wi=
th similar results. Other than waiting for and donating to the Iasi transcr=
iption project (which I've done), is anyone aware of other potential source=
s?

Thanks,

Rick Fisel
San Jose, Costa Rica


Romania SIG #Romania Re: FISEL, KAHN (Iasi) and ROCHMAN (Bucuresti) #romania

Bob Wascou
 

The best place to search is the Romanian database at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Romania/ . You will find records
for the names of the people you are looking for. Look for the people
in all of the locations and not just Iasi and Bucharest. People moved
around and could have moved to other locations especially during the
wars and with marriage. Wherever possible do not use exact search for
the family names because they could have been transcribed differently
than the exact name because of bad handwriting.

Check out the online Romanian white pages phone directory. There is a
person by the name of FISEL listed there. I found a cousin in Iasi
that way.

Check out Google.com . I also found a cousin in Kishinev that way. You
never know what you night find.

Ask other relatives and keep track of their information. You might
find information on distant relatives. Keep track of other people with
the names that you are searching even if you cannot place them on your
tree as you might find a connection later.

In addition ROM-SIG is in the process of obtaining and translating
birth, marriage and death records >from Iasi. To help transcribe these
records fill out the form at http://tinyurl.com/vol-transcriber .

To help us get more records please donate to the Iasi County Records
Project at http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?pr=
oject_cat=3D20

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us what you donated for at ttp://tinyurl.com/R-S-Donations . This way
we can start to get more records >from Iasi.

Bob Wascou
ROM-SIG Research Coordinator

On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Rick Fisel <rfisel@gmail.com> wrote:


I recently joined this list, so I thought I would put out some family inf=
ormation and hope to find some more.

I am working >from my grandparents' naturalization dossiers >from France, d=
ated Feb 1928. They were named Fisel FISEL and Ernestina ROCHMAN. They show=
my grandfather's parents as David FISEL (born about 1868), and Rachel KAHN=
(deceased), of Iasi. Also mentioned in the dossier are a FISEL daughter in=
Paris, Anna, born about 1886, who took the married name EPSTEIN, two other=
unnamed FISEL daughters still alive in Romania, and one unnamed FISEL son =
who died in World War I in Romania. Since the French appeared to be interes=
ted in potential soldiers, my grandfather may have left the impression that=
his brother was in the Romanian military when he may have been a civilian =
casualty. My grandmother's parents were Froim ROCHMAN (deceased) and Fanie =
ROCHMAN (born about 1858) of Bucuresti. No information about any siblings i=
n my grandmother's case, nor her mother's maiden name, but this may reflect=
a neglect of women's data in France at that time.

My grandfather was deported to Auschwitz, but the rest of the family in F=
rance survived. This dossier opens up the possibility of a significant numb=
er of relatives in Romania, and I'm very interested in whether any survived=
the Holocaust and where they ended up. I'm also interested, of course, in =
generations further back.

I have already consulted the JewishGen Romania collection and found no cl=
early relevant info. I've also checked familysearch.org and ancestry.com wi=
th similar results. Other than waiting for and donating to the Iasi transcr=
iption project (which I've done), is anyone aware of other potential source=
s?

Thanks,

Rick Fisel
San Jose, Costa Rica

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