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Surname - YUDLEVITZ in California #general

Barbara Zimmer <bravo.zulu@...>
 

One of the problems of searching by surnames is that they could be
spelled in so many ways and then transcribed (or misread) in many
other ways,.
For example, a search for YUD** in the 1920 census for California
yields the followiing:
Herman YUDBNITZ b 1855 in Poland
Geroge YUDLEWITZ b 1871 in Russia
Belle YUDLOWITZ b 1896 in Russia.

Try writing YUDLEVITZ in script form and you will see that it may
well be transcribed as YUD -B (for the L and E) -N (for the V or W) -
ITZ.

Searching the California Death index also yields many possible
matches and often provides the mother's maiden name (if it was given.)

Barbara Zimmer
Norfolk VA

Jeff Miller wrote:
My challenge now is to find Yane YUDLEVITZ' descendants. I know in the US the
family first lived in New Jersey, but relocated early on in the 1900s to the Los
Angeles area.

Other names of related family members include Etta GORE (the name FORER is also
listed as her mother's maiden name). She was born in 1898 and died in Los Angeles
in 1985. Also Edith YUDLEVITZ, born 1900 or 1901, died in San Bernardino in 1970.
Irving (Isidore) YUDLEVITZ born 1905, died in Los Angeles in 1987. Also Sophia
born 1902.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Surname - YUDLEVITZ in California #general

Barbara Zimmer <bravo.zulu@...>
 

One of the problems of searching by surnames is that they could be
spelled in so many ways and then transcribed (or misread) in many
other ways,.
For example, a search for YUD** in the 1920 census for California
yields the followiing:
Herman YUDBNITZ b 1855 in Poland
Geroge YUDLEWITZ b 1871 in Russia
Belle YUDLOWITZ b 1896 in Russia.

Try writing YUDLEVITZ in script form and you will see that it may
well be transcribed as YUD -B (for the L and E) -N (for the V or W) -
ITZ.

Searching the California Death index also yields many possible
matches and often provides the mother's maiden name (if it was given.)

Barbara Zimmer
Norfolk VA

Jeff Miller wrote:
My challenge now is to find Yane YUDLEVITZ' descendants. I know in the US the
family first lived in New Jersey, but relocated early on in the 1900s to the Los
Angeles area.

Other names of related family members include Etta GORE (the name FORER is also
listed as her mother's maiden name). She was born in 1898 and died in Los Angeles
in 1985. Also Edith YUDLEVITZ, born 1900 or 1901, died in San Bernardino in 1970.
Irving (Isidore) YUDLEVITZ born 1905, died in Los Angeles in 1987. Also Sophia
born 1902.


Re: Named for More than One Person? #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 06:30:59 UTC, FranSegall@comcast.net (Fran Segall)
opined:

Could someone please tell me if Jewish children are ever given a given-name for
more than one person? My Hebrew name is Feige. My mother's grandmother and my
father's grandmother were both named Feige. Both died many years before my birth,
although I don't know the years. I have no way to know which one I was named for,
but is it possible or likely that the intention was to honor both?

Fran Segall
Manassas, VA
FranSegall@comcast.net
The custom of naming children after a departed (in Ashkenazi tradition) or
live (Sfaradi) forebear is only that, a custom or social habit. It has no
foundation in either written or oral law. Whether the parents of a child had
in mind a maternal grandparent, a paternal great-grandparent, a prestigious
personage, a Biblical character, or all of the above simultaneously, is a
question that can be answered only by interrogating the parents, and
perhaps not even thus.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Named for More than One Person? #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 06:30:59 UTC, FranSegall@comcast.net (Fran Segall)
opined:

Could someone please tell me if Jewish children are ever given a given-name for
more than one person? My Hebrew name is Feige. My mother's grandmother and my
father's grandmother were both named Feige. Both died many years before my birth,
although I don't know the years. I have no way to know which one I was named for,
but is it possible or likely that the intention was to honor both?

Fran Segall
Manassas, VA
FranSegall@comcast.net
The custom of naming children after a departed (in Ashkenazi tradition) or
live (Sfaradi) forebear is only that, a custom or social habit. It has no
foundation in either written or oral law. Whether the parents of a child had
in mind a maternal grandparent, a paternal great-grandparent, a prestigious
personage, a Biblical character, or all of the above simultaneously, is a
question that can be answered only by interrogating the parents, and
perhaps not even thus.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.


Thank You Dave #belarus

Shana Egan <segan@...>
 

May I add my voice to those who thank Dave Fox for all his work in our
behalf. Without you, Dave, I don't think this SIG would have achieved what
it has. You got things started and kept looking for ways to improve and
enhance our research. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you.

Wishing you and Cindy the best.

Shana


Belarus SIG #Belarus Thank You Dave #belarus

Shana Egan <segan@...>
 

May I add my voice to those who thank Dave Fox for all his work in our
behalf. Without you, Dave, I don't think this SIG would have achieved what
it has. You got things started and kept looking for ways to improve and
enhance our research. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you.

Wishing you and Cindy the best.

Shana


Re: Named for More than One Person? #general

ben-ari <yrcdi@...>
 

My eldest son, Chaim Zvi, is name after two greatgrandfathers, one was Chaim
the other Zvi.

Yoni Ben-Ari

----- Original Message -----
From: "Fran Segall" < FranSegall@comcast.net >
To: "JewishGen Discussion Group" < jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org >
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 2:55 AM
Subject: Named for More than One Person?

Could someone please tell me if Jewish children are ever given a given-name for
more than one person? My Hebrew name is Feige. My mother's grandmother and my
father's grandmother were both named Feige. Both died many years before my birth,
although I don't know the years. I have no way to know which one I was named for,
but is it possible or likely that the intention was to honor both?

Fran Segall
Manassas, VA
FranSegall@comcast.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Named for More than One Person? #general

ben-ari <yrcdi@...>
 

My eldest son, Chaim Zvi, is name after two greatgrandfathers, one was Chaim
the other Zvi.

Yoni Ben-Ari

----- Original Message -----
From: "Fran Segall" < FranSegall@comcast.net >
To: "JewishGen Discussion Group" < jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org >
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 2:55 AM
Subject: Named for More than One Person?

Could someone please tell me if Jewish children are ever given a given-name for
more than one person? My Hebrew name is Feige. My mother's grandmother and my
father's grandmother were both named Feige. Both died many years before my birth,
although I don't know the years. I have no way to know which one I was named for,
but is it possible or likely that the intention was to honor both?

Fran Segall
Manassas, VA
FranSegall@comcast.net


Re: Maor/Meirat Einayim #rabbinic

LR <lreich@...>
 

On 2005.03.09, Israel Pickholtz <IsraelP@pikholz.org> inquired:

[...] old rabbinic section of the Hevron cemetery (Reishit Hochma)
is a Rav Chaim Katz, who is identified there as "Baal 'Eretz Hayyim'
and grandson of the samekh-mem-ayin." My rashei teivot reference
says that this is either "Maor Einayyim" or "Meirat Einayyim" and
Atlas Etz Hayyim has two of each of those.

Does anyone know who R' Chaim Katz' grandfather was and what was
the name of his sefer?
When a mention of the "Sema" is made, it invariably refers to the
commentary "Sefer Meirat Einayyim" on the section of Shulchan Aroch
called Choshen Mishpat (Civil Law), or its author.

This was Rabbi Joshua (ben Alexander) Falk Katz who died in 1614.
The Sema commentary and the "Derisha U'Prisha" by the same author
are very well known rabbinic works which are constantly in use and
reprinted. Information about the author is to be found in any Jewish
encyclopedia.

Leslie Reich


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: Maor/Meirat Einayim #rabbinic

LR <lreich@...>
 

On 2005.03.09, Israel Pickholtz <IsraelP@pikholz.org> inquired:

[...] old rabbinic section of the Hevron cemetery (Reishit Hochma)
is a Rav Chaim Katz, who is identified there as "Baal 'Eretz Hayyim'
and grandson of the samekh-mem-ayin." My rashei teivot reference
says that this is either "Maor Einayyim" or "Meirat Einayyim" and
Atlas Etz Hayyim has two of each of those.

Does anyone know who R' Chaim Katz' grandfather was and what was
the name of his sefer?
When a mention of the "Sema" is made, it invariably refers to the
commentary "Sefer Meirat Einayyim" on the section of Shulchan Aroch
called Choshen Mishpat (Civil Law), or its author.

This was Rabbi Joshua (ben Alexander) Falk Katz who died in 1614.
The Sema commentary and the "Derisha U'Prisha" by the same author
are very well known rabbinic works which are constantly in use and
reprinted. Information about the author is to be found in any Jewish
encyclopedia.

Leslie Reich


Re: pooling of resources #ukraine

Adelle Gloger
 

Dear Genners,

Nathen Gabriel asked about pooling resources for the purpose of doing
research. It was great that he listed the various uyezds, however, it might help
if he listed some of the towns that he was interested in doing research.

I for one would be interested, but only if I knew the towns. I would not
want to say "yes", and then find out that the uyezd was right, but that the
towns were not.

Adelle Weintraub Gloger
Shaker Hts., Ohio (Cleveland)
agloger@aol.com

Dear Ukraine SIG members,

My ancestors came >from the following uyezds:

In Kiev Guberniya:
Berdichev Uyezd
Skvira Uyezd
Tarashcha Uyezd
Uman Uyezd

In Podolia Guberniya:
Gaisin Uyezd

In Kherson Guberniya:
Ananiev Uyezd
Odessa Uyezd

Anyone care to pool resources in order to hire a researcher?

Please answer this appeal privately. Thank you.

Nathen Gabriel
North Vancouver, BC


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: pooling of resources #ukraine

Adelle Gloger
 

Dear Genners,

Nathen Gabriel asked about pooling resources for the purpose of doing
research. It was great that he listed the various uyezds, however, it might help
if he listed some of the towns that he was interested in doing research.

I for one would be interested, but only if I knew the towns. I would not
want to say "yes", and then find out that the uyezd was right, but that the
towns were not.

Adelle Weintraub Gloger
Shaker Hts., Ohio (Cleveland)
agloger@aol.com

Dear Ukraine SIG members,

My ancestors came >from the following uyezds:

In Kiev Guberniya:
Berdichev Uyezd
Skvira Uyezd
Tarashcha Uyezd
Uman Uyezd

In Podolia Guberniya:
Gaisin Uyezd

In Kherson Guberniya:
Ananiev Uyezd
Odessa Uyezd

Anyone care to pool resources in order to hire a researcher?

Please answer this appeal privately. Thank you.

Nathen Gabriel
North Vancouver, BC


Re: Lukashevka, Monastrych, Starokonstantinov #ukraine

Don Solomon
 

I'm sort of interested in all these towns -- although my "official"
shtetl is Izyaslav (Zaslav), family members or people with similar
names have popped up in these towns and a dozen or two more --
Ladyzhin, Krasilov, Shepetovka, Klevan, Yarmolintsy, Lutsk, Skvira,
Sarny, etc.

I don't think I could ever begin to contribute effectively to
researching all these towns, and my interest in them is currently so
limited that I wouldn't spend a lot to research them all. But if
anyone started a group on any of them, I'd certainly join and see
what I could do.

Don Solomon


At 12:01 AM -0600 3/9/05, Evan Fishman and Betty Ross wrote:
Has anyone ever started
such a SIG for Starokonstantinov, Volhynia, Ukraine and vicinity? I would
be interested in collaborating with others so that we can obtain records as
a group and thereby maximize effectiveness.
and


Joanne Saltman's suggestion to form sigs for individual towns is a great
idea. Is anyone researching Lukashevka, Monastrych or Berdichev -- all of
which are near Kiev? I would be interested in sharing such information.
--
--
Don Solomon <dsolomon@post.harvard.edu>
Boston, MA USA
Searching: NIMOY, DRUTIN, KATZ (Izyaslav, Volhynia Gub., Ukr.)
SOLOMON, JOSEPH, CAHANE, SEGAL (Iasi, Rom.)


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Lukashevka, Monastrych, Starokonstantinov #ukraine

Don Solomon
 

I'm sort of interested in all these towns -- although my "official"
shtetl is Izyaslav (Zaslav), family members or people with similar
names have popped up in these towns and a dozen or two more --
Ladyzhin, Krasilov, Shepetovka, Klevan, Yarmolintsy, Lutsk, Skvira,
Sarny, etc.

I don't think I could ever begin to contribute effectively to
researching all these towns, and my interest in them is currently so
limited that I wouldn't spend a lot to research them all. But if
anyone started a group on any of them, I'd certainly join and see
what I could do.

Don Solomon


At 12:01 AM -0600 3/9/05, Evan Fishman and Betty Ross wrote:
Has anyone ever started
such a SIG for Starokonstantinov, Volhynia, Ukraine and vicinity? I would
be interested in collaborating with others so that we can obtain records as
a group and thereby maximize effectiveness.
and


Joanne Saltman's suggestion to form sigs for individual towns is a great
idea. Is anyone researching Lukashevka, Monastrych or Berdichev -- all of
which are near Kiev? I would be interested in sharing such information.
--
--
Don Solomon <dsolomon@post.harvard.edu>
Boston, MA USA
Searching: NIMOY, DRUTIN, KATZ (Izyaslav, Volhynia Gub., Ukr.)
SOLOMON, JOSEPH, CAHANE, SEGAL (Iasi, Rom.)


Re: Pnei Yitzhak - R' Yitzhak FRANCES #rabbinic

LR <lreich@...>
 

On 2005.03.07, Claire Sztern <claire.sztern@gmail.com> enquired:

[...] The only information I've been able to find about R' Yitzhak
FRANCES is that 1) he was the author of Pnei Yitzhak, 2) He was the
Chief Rabbi of Larissa and 3) he died in 1740. His family was
originally >from Saloniki. Does anybody know more about him or
his family?
Rabbi Yitzchak FRANCES is mentioned in the Shem Hagdolim of the
Chida. He is also listed in the index of the 2 Vol work "Matzevot
Salonika" by Y S Emanuel, published by Mechon Ben Zvi in 1963. His
work, Pnei Yitzchok, includes hespedim (eulogies) on several rabbis
buried in Salonika in the 1720s. That index contains many entries
stretching over centuries of individual surnamed FRANCIS or FRANCES.

Neither work gives genealogical information.

Leslie Reich


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: Pnei Yitzhak - R' Yitzhak FRANCES #rabbinic

LR <lreich@...>
 

On 2005.03.07, Claire Sztern <claire.sztern@gmail.com> enquired:

[...] The only information I've been able to find about R' Yitzhak
FRANCES is that 1) he was the author of Pnei Yitzhak, 2) He was the
Chief Rabbi of Larissa and 3) he died in 1740. His family was
originally >from Saloniki. Does anybody know more about him or
his family?
Rabbi Yitzchak FRANCES is mentioned in the Shem Hagdolim of the
Chida. He is also listed in the index of the 2 Vol work "Matzevot
Salonika" by Y S Emanuel, published by Mechon Ben Zvi in 1963. His
work, Pnei Yitzchok, includes hespedim (eulogies) on several rabbis
buried in Salonika in the 1720s. That index contains many entries
stretching over centuries of individual surnamed FRANCIS or FRANCES.

Neither work gives genealogical information.

Leslie Reich


0levsk #ukraine

batsheva <zsbb@...>
 

Hello Genners,
We are planning to visit olevsk in August to follow our family roots.
If any of you visited Olevsk and can tell us about a Jewish cemetery or what
the information resources there
Researching SHAPIRO, MILSTEIN, ECKERT OF OLEVSK, KOROSTEN, ROVNOW and ECKERT
& SANDNER of SAMBOR
Thank you
Batsheva Shapiro Avron


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine 0levsk #ukraine

batsheva <zsbb@...>
 

Hello Genners,
We are planning to visit olevsk in August to follow our family roots.
If any of you visited Olevsk and can tell us about a Jewish cemetery or what
the information resources there
Researching SHAPIRO, MILSTEIN, ECKERT OF OLEVSK, KOROSTEN, ROVNOW and ECKERT
& SANDNER of SAMBOR
Thank you
Batsheva Shapiro Avron


Re: Birds of a Feather #ukraine

dayna reader <zoeys_mom@...>
 

i'd love to hook up with anyone researching the towns
of POLONNOYE (in Volyn Ob.) and SHARGOROD.

dayna chalif
san francisco, CA., USA

MODERATOR'S NOTE: If you are interested in being the coordinator of such a group,
please let us know. As with all volunteer organizations, it is much harder to
find leaders than joiners. A coordinator has the opportunity to shape the
direction of the group as he or she seems fit. The job would be what you wish
to make of it.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Birds of a Feather #ukraine

dayna reader <zoeys_mom@...>
 

i'd love to hook up with anyone researching the towns
of POLONNOYE (in Volyn Ob.) and SHARGOROD.

dayna chalif
san francisco, CA., USA

MODERATOR'S NOTE: If you are interested in being the coordinator of such a group,
please let us know. As with all volunteer organizations, it is much harder to
find leaders than joiners. A coordinator has the opportunity to shape the
direction of the group as he or she seems fit. The job would be what you wish
to make of it.