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Surname - YUDLEVITZ in California #general Barbara Zimmer <bravo.zulu@...> #169502 One of the problems of searching by surnames is that they could be spelled in so many ways and then transcribed (or misread) in many other ways,. For example, a search for YUD** in the 1920 census for California yields the followiing: Herman YUDBNITZ b 1855 in Poland Geroge YUDLEWITZ b 1871 in Russia Belle YUDLOWITZ b 1896 in Russia. Try writing YUDLEVITZ in script form and you will see that it may well be transcribed as YUD -B (for the L and E) -N (for the V or W) - ITZ. Searching the California Death index also yields many possible matches and often provides the mother's maiden name (if it was given.) Barbara Zimmer Norfolk VA toggle quoted messageShow quoted text Jeff Miller wrote: My challenge now is to find Yane YUDLEVITZ' descendants. I know in the US the family first lived in New Jersey, but relocated early on in the 1900s to the Los Angeles area. Other names of related family members include Etta GORE (the name FORER is also listed as her mother's maiden name). She was born in 1898 and died in Los Angeles in 1985. Also Edith YUDLEVITZ, born 1900 or 1901, died in San Bernardino in 1970. Irving (Isidore) YUDLEVITZ born 1905, died in Los Angeles in 1987. Also Sophia born 1902.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Surname - YUDLEVITZ in California #general Barbara Zimmer <bravo.zulu@...> #489815 One of the problems of searching by surnames is that they could be spelled in so many ways and then transcribed (or misread) in many other ways,. For example, a search for YUD** in the 1920 census for California yields the followiing: Herman YUDBNITZ b 1855 in Poland Geroge YUDLEWITZ b 1871 in Russia Belle YUDLOWITZ b 1896 in Russia. Try writing YUDLEVITZ in script form and you will see that it may well be transcribed as YUD -B (for the L and E) -N (for the V or W) - ITZ. Searching the California Death index also yields many possible matches and often provides the mother's maiden name (if it was given.) Barbara Zimmer Norfolk VA toggle quoted messageShow quoted text Jeff Miller wrote: My challenge now is to find Yane YUDLEVITZ' descendants. I know in the US the family first lived in New Jersey, but relocated early on in the 1900s to the Los Angeles area. Other names of related family members include Etta GORE (the name FORER is also listed as her mother's maiden name). She was born in 1898 and died in Los Angeles in 1985. Also Edith YUDLEVITZ, born 1900 or 1901, died in San Bernardino in 1970. Irving (Isidore) YUDLEVITZ born 1905, died in Los Angeles in 1987. Also Sophia born 1902.
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Re: Named for More than One Person? #general Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...> #169501 On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 06:30:59 UTC, FranSegall@comcast.net (Fran Segall) opined: Could someone please tell me if Jewish children are ever given a given-name for more than one person? My Hebrew name is Feige. My mother's grandmother and my father's grandmother were both named Feige. Both died many years before my birth, although I don't know the years. I have no way to know which one I was named for, but is it possible or likely that the intention was to honor both? Fran Segall Manassas, VA FranSegall@comcast.net The custom of naming children after a departed (in Ashkenazi tradition) or live (Sfaradi) forebear is only that, a custom or social habit. It has no foundation in either written or oral law. Whether the parents of a child had in mind a maternal grandparent, a paternal great-grandparent, a prestigious personage, a Biblical character, or all of the above simultaneously, is a question that can be answered only by interrogating the parents, and perhaps not even thus. -- Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel Searching: NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is: http://www.hashkedim.com For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form there.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Named for More than One Person? #general Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...> #489814 On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 06:30:59 UTC, FranSegall@comcast.net (Fran Segall) opined: Could someone please tell me if Jewish children are ever given a given-name for more than one person? My Hebrew name is Feige. My mother's grandmother and my father's grandmother were both named Feige. Both died many years before my birth, although I don't know the years. I have no way to know which one I was named for, but is it possible or likely that the intention was to honor both? Fran Segall Manassas, VA FranSegall@comcast.net The custom of naming children after a departed (in Ashkenazi tradition) or live (Sfaradi) forebear is only that, a custom or social habit. It has no foundation in either written or oral law. Whether the parents of a child had in mind a maternal grandparent, a paternal great-grandparent, a prestigious personage, a Biblical character, or all of the above simultaneously, is a question that can be answered only by interrogating the parents, and perhaps not even thus. -- Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel Searching: NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is: http://www.hashkedim.com For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form there.
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Thank You Dave #belarus Shana Egan <segan@...> #18008 May I add my voice to those who thank Dave Fox for all his work in our behalf. Without you, Dave, I don't think this SIG would have achieved what it has. You got things started and kept looking for ways to improve and enhance our research. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you. Wishing you and Cindy the best. Shana
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Belarus SIG #Belarus Thank You Dave #belarus Shana Egan <segan@...> #338448 May I add my voice to those who thank Dave Fox for all his work in our behalf. Without you, Dave, I don't think this SIG would have achieved what it has. You got things started and kept looking for ways to improve and enhance our research. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you. Wishing you and Cindy the best. Shana
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Re: Named for More than One Person? #general ben-ari <yrcdi@...> #169500 My eldest son, Chaim Zvi, is name after two greatgrandfathers, one was Chaim the other Zvi. Yoni Ben-Ari toggle quoted messageShow quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fran Segall" < FranSegall@comcast.net > To: "JewishGen Discussion Group" < jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 2:55 AM Subject: Named for More than One Person? Could someone please tell me if Jewish children are ever given a given-name for more than one person? My Hebrew name is Feige. My mother's grandmother and my father's grandmother were both named Feige. Both died many years before my birth, although I don't know the years. I have no way to know which one I was named for, but is it possible or likely that the intention was to honor both? Fran Segall Manassas, VA FranSegall@comcast.net
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Named for More than One Person? #general ben-ari <yrcdi@...> #489813 My eldest son, Chaim Zvi, is name after two greatgrandfathers, one was Chaim the other Zvi. Yoni Ben-Ari toggle quoted messageShow quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fran Segall" < FranSegall@comcast.net > To: "JewishGen Discussion Group" < jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 2:55 AM Subject: Named for More than One Person? Could someone please tell me if Jewish children are ever given a given-name for more than one person? My Hebrew name is Feige. My mother's grandmother and my father's grandmother were both named Feige. Both died many years before my birth, although I don't know the years. I have no way to know which one I was named for, but is it possible or likely that the intention was to honor both? Fran Segall Manassas, VA FranSegall@comcast.net
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Re: Maor/Meirat Einayim #rabbinic LR <lreich@...> #279343 On 2005.03.09, Israel Pickholtz <IsraelP@pikholz.org> inquired: [...] old rabbinic section of the Hevron cemetery (Reishit Hochma) is a Rav Chaim Katz, who is identified there as "Baal 'Eretz Hayyim' and grandson of the samekh-mem-ayin." My rashei teivot reference says that this is either "Maor Einayyim" or "Meirat Einayyim" and Atlas Etz Hayyim has two of each of those. Does anyone know who R' Chaim Katz' grandfather was and what was the name of his sefer? When a mention of the "Sema" is made, it invariably refers to the commentary "Sefer Meirat Einayyim" on the section of Shulchan Aroch called Choshen Mishpat (Civil Law), or its author. This was Rabbi Joshua (ben Alexander) Falk Katz who died in 1614. The Sema commentary and the "Derisha U'Prisha" by the same author are very well known rabbinic works which are constantly in use and reprinted. Information about the author is to be found in any Jewish encyclopedia. Leslie Reich
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Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: Maor/Meirat Einayim #rabbinic LR <lreich@...> #599600 On 2005.03.09, Israel Pickholtz <IsraelP@pikholz.org> inquired: [...] old rabbinic section of the Hevron cemetery (Reishit Hochma) is a Rav Chaim Katz, who is identified there as "Baal 'Eretz Hayyim' and grandson of the samekh-mem-ayin." My rashei teivot reference says that this is either "Maor Einayyim" or "Meirat Einayyim" and Atlas Etz Hayyim has two of each of those. Does anyone know who R' Chaim Katz' grandfather was and what was the name of his sefer? When a mention of the "Sema" is made, it invariably refers to the commentary "Sefer Meirat Einayyim" on the section of Shulchan Aroch called Choshen Mishpat (Civil Law), or its author. This was Rabbi Joshua (ben Alexander) Falk Katz who died in 1614. The Sema commentary and the "Derisha U'Prisha" by the same author are very well known rabbinic works which are constantly in use and reprinted. Information about the author is to be found in any Jewish encyclopedia. Leslie Reich
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Re: pooling of resources #ukraine Adelle Gloger #303636 Dear Genners, Nathen Gabriel asked about pooling resources for the purpose of doing research. It was great that he listed the various uyezds, however, it might help if he listed some of the towns that he was interested in doing research. I for one would be interested, but only if I knew the towns. I would not want to say "yes", and then find out that the uyezd was right, but that the towns were not. Adelle Weintraub Gloger Shaker Hts., Ohio (Cleveland) agloger@aol.com Dear Ukraine SIG members, My ancestors came >from the following uyezds: In Kiev Guberniya: Berdichev Uyezd Skvira Uyezd Tarashcha Uyezd Uman Uyezd In Podolia Guberniya: Gaisin Uyezd In Kherson Guberniya: Ananiev Uyezd Odessa Uyezd Anyone care to pool resources in order to hire a researcher? Please answer this appeal privately. Thank you. Nathen Gabriel North Vancouver, BC
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: pooling of resources #ukraine Adelle Gloger #623856 Dear Genners, Nathen Gabriel asked about pooling resources for the purpose of doing research. It was great that he listed the various uyezds, however, it might help if he listed some of the towns that he was interested in doing research. I for one would be interested, but only if I knew the towns. I would not want to say "yes", and then find out that the uyezd was right, but that the towns were not. Adelle Weintraub Gloger Shaker Hts., Ohio (Cleveland) agloger@aol.com Dear Ukraine SIG members, My ancestors came >from the following uyezds: In Kiev Guberniya: Berdichev Uyezd Skvira Uyezd Tarashcha Uyezd Uman Uyezd In Podolia Guberniya: Gaisin Uyezd In Kherson Guberniya: Ananiev Uyezd Odessa Uyezd Anyone care to pool resources in order to hire a researcher? Please answer this appeal privately. Thank you. Nathen Gabriel North Vancouver, BC
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Re: Lukashevka, Monastrych, Starokonstantinov #ukraine Don Solomon #303635 I'm sort of interested in all these towns -- although my "official" shtetl is Izyaslav (Zaslav), family members or people with similar names have popped up in these towns and a dozen or two more -- Ladyzhin, Krasilov, Shepetovka, Klevan, Yarmolintsy, Lutsk, Skvira, Sarny, etc. I don't think I could ever begin to contribute effectively to researching all these towns, and my interest in them is currently so limited that I wouldn't spend a lot to research them all. But if anyone started a group on any of them, I'd certainly join and see what I could do. Don Solomon At 12:01 AM -0600 3/9/05, Evan Fishman and Betty Ross wrote: Has anyone ever started such a SIG for Starokonstantinov, Volhynia, Ukraine and vicinity? I would be interested in collaborating with others so that we can obtain records as a group and thereby maximize effectiveness. and Joanne Saltman's suggestion to form sigs for individual towns is a great idea. Is anyone researching Lukashevka, Monastrych or Berdichev -- all of which are near Kiev? I would be interested in sharing such information. -- -- Don Solomon <dsolomon@post.harvard.edu> Boston, MA USA Searching: NIMOY, DRUTIN, KATZ (Izyaslav, Volhynia Gub., Ukr.) SOLOMON, JOSEPH, CAHANE, SEGAL (Iasi, Rom.)
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Lukashevka, Monastrych, Starokonstantinov #ukraine Don Solomon #623855 I'm sort of interested in all these towns -- although my "official" shtetl is Izyaslav (Zaslav), family members or people with similar names have popped up in these towns and a dozen or two more -- Ladyzhin, Krasilov, Shepetovka, Klevan, Yarmolintsy, Lutsk, Skvira, Sarny, etc. I don't think I could ever begin to contribute effectively to researching all these towns, and my interest in them is currently so limited that I wouldn't spend a lot to research them all. But if anyone started a group on any of them, I'd certainly join and see what I could do. Don Solomon At 12:01 AM -0600 3/9/05, Evan Fishman and Betty Ross wrote: Has anyone ever started such a SIG for Starokonstantinov, Volhynia, Ukraine and vicinity? I would be interested in collaborating with others so that we can obtain records as a group and thereby maximize effectiveness. and Joanne Saltman's suggestion to form sigs for individual towns is a great idea. Is anyone researching Lukashevka, Monastrych or Berdichev -- all of which are near Kiev? I would be interested in sharing such information. -- -- Don Solomon <dsolomon@post.harvard.edu> Boston, MA USA Searching: NIMOY, DRUTIN, KATZ (Izyaslav, Volhynia Gub., Ukr.) SOLOMON, JOSEPH, CAHANE, SEGAL (Iasi, Rom.)
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Re: Pnei Yitzhak - R' Yitzhak FRANCES #rabbinic LR <lreich@...> #279342 On 2005.03.07, Claire Sztern <claire.sztern@gmail.com> enquired: [...] The only information I've been able to find about R' Yitzhak FRANCES is that 1) he was the author of Pnei Yitzhak, 2) He was the Chief Rabbi of Larissa and 3) he died in 1740. His family was originally >from Saloniki. Does anybody know more about him or his family? Rabbi Yitzchak FRANCES is mentioned in the Shem Hagdolim of the Chida. He is also listed in the index of the 2 Vol work "Matzevot Salonika" by Y S Emanuel, published by Mechon Ben Zvi in 1963. His work, Pnei Yitzchok, includes hespedim (eulogies) on several rabbis buried in Salonika in the 1720s. That index contains many entries stretching over centuries of individual surnamed FRANCIS or FRANCES. Neither work gives genealogical information. Leslie Reich
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Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: Pnei Yitzhak - R' Yitzhak FRANCES #rabbinic LR <lreich@...> #599599 On 2005.03.07, Claire Sztern <claire.sztern@gmail.com> enquired: [...] The only information I've been able to find about R' Yitzhak FRANCES is that 1) he was the author of Pnei Yitzhak, 2) He was the Chief Rabbi of Larissa and 3) he died in 1740. His family was originally >from Saloniki. Does anybody know more about him or his family? Rabbi Yitzchak FRANCES is mentioned in the Shem Hagdolim of the Chida. He is also listed in the index of the 2 Vol work "Matzevot Salonika" by Y S Emanuel, published by Mechon Ben Zvi in 1963. His work, Pnei Yitzchok, includes hespedim (eulogies) on several rabbis buried in Salonika in the 1720s. That index contains many entries stretching over centuries of individual surnamed FRANCIS or FRANCES. Neither work gives genealogical information. Leslie Reich
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0levsk #ukraine batsheva <zsbb@...> #303634 Hello Genners, We are planning to visit olevsk in August to follow our family roots. If any of you visited Olevsk and can tell us about a Jewish cemetery or what the information resources there Researching SHAPIRO, MILSTEIN, ECKERT OF OLEVSK, KOROSTEN, ROVNOW and ECKERT & SANDNER of SAMBOR Thank you Batsheva Shapiro Avron
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine 0levsk #ukraine batsheva <zsbb@...> #623854 Hello Genners, We are planning to visit olevsk in August to follow our family roots. If any of you visited Olevsk and can tell us about a Jewish cemetery or what the information resources there Researching SHAPIRO, MILSTEIN, ECKERT OF OLEVSK, KOROSTEN, ROVNOW and ECKERT & SANDNER of SAMBOR Thank you Batsheva Shapiro Avron
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Re: Birds of a Feather #ukraine dayna reader <zoeys_mom@...> #303633 i'd love to hook up with anyone researching the towns of POLONNOYE (in Volyn Ob.) and SHARGOROD. dayna chalif san francisco, CA., USA MODERATOR'S NOTE: If you are interested in being the coordinator of such a group, please let us know. As with all volunteer organizations, it is much harder to find leaders than joiners. A coordinator has the opportunity to shape the direction of the group as he or she seems fit. The job would be what you wish to make of it.
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Birds of a Feather #ukraine dayna reader <zoeys_mom@...> #623853 i'd love to hook up with anyone researching the towns of POLONNOYE (in Volyn Ob.) and SHARGOROD. dayna chalif san francisco, CA., USA MODERATOR'S NOTE: If you are interested in being the coordinator of such a group, please let us know. As with all volunteer organizations, it is much harder to find leaders than joiners. A coordinator has the opportunity to shape the direction of the group as he or she seems fit. The job would be what you wish to make of it.
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