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Immigrants from Poland who returned
#general
Barbara Zilber
There is an incredible book written by Irving Howe called "World of our
Fathers". It describes the journey of the Eastern European immigrant Jews to America and the life they found and made here; describing great hardships and incredible strides. It is a really comprehensive history and as such does touch upon many of the reasons why some of them returned to the old country. As a great academic work it can occassionally be a little dry, but if you have the interest and curiosity, it is a well of knowledge and a treasure. Barbara Zilber Montreal, Canada researching ZILBERSZTEJN & INWENTARZ (Warsaw), ZALCMAN & MILSZTEJN (Radom & Krakow)
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Cyrillic conversion to English
#ukraine
Terri <terrib@...>
Does anyone know if Steve Morse, or someone else has created a tool, that
allows us to input a Cyrillic surname or another word to get the English translation, similar to the Israeli phone directory where we type the English and it gets converted to Hebrew. Tom Erribe CA Moderator's note: Have you visited his homepage listing all his One-Step pages? http://stevemorse.org/
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Immigrants from Poland who returned
#general
Barbara Zilber
There is an incredible book written by Irving Howe called "World of our
Fathers". It describes the journey of the Eastern European immigrant Jews to America and the life they found and made here; describing great hardships and incredible strides. It is a really comprehensive history and as such does touch upon many of the reasons why some of them returned to the old country. As a great academic work it can occassionally be a little dry, but if you have the interest and curiosity, it is a well of knowledge and a treasure. Barbara Zilber Montreal, Canada researching ZILBERSZTEJN & INWENTARZ (Warsaw), ZALCMAN & MILSZTEJN (Radom & Krakow)
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Cyrillic conversion to English
#ukraine
Terri <terrib@...>
Does anyone know if Steve Morse, or someone else has created a tool, that
allows us to input a Cyrillic surname or another word to get the English translation, similar to the Israeli phone directory where we type the English and it gets converted to Hebrew. Tom Erribe CA Moderator's note: Have you visited his homepage listing all his One-Step pages? http://stevemorse.org/
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Re: Immigrants from Poland who returned
#general
Jef Barnett <JBarnett@...>
Francine Miller asked about family returning to Poland after they had
already arrived in NY,,,, My great-grandfather was said to have returned several times between 1900 and 1920. No reason seems to have survived other than "he went back to see his wife and kids and each time left Poland after making his wife pregnant again!" I suppose since my great grand mother did not want to leave for some reason, maybe her parents or other family commitments. She did finally come to NY with here youngest children in 1920. Jef Barnett Bensalem, PA BANDRYMER (Bandrimer or Bandremer) -Serock, Pultusk, Rozan Poland KRASHA - Serock, Krasnosielc Poland NOWAK (Novak, Nowack) -Serock, Krasnosielc Poland BULMAN- Poland
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Cemetery in Tilsit (Sovetsk), now Russia
#general
Lorraine Fig <lfig@...>
Dear Friends,
Does anyone know if a Jewish cemetery still remains in Tilsit, East Prussia - now Sovetsk, Kaliningrad province, Russia? Thank you for your collective help. Lorraine Fig Shapiro Researching SLADOWSKY, LUDWINOFSKY (Poland, East Prussia), FIG (Lithuania), CHAPMAN (England).
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: Immigrants from Poland who returned
#general
Jef Barnett <JBarnett@...>
Francine Miller asked about family returning to Poland after they had
already arrived in NY,,,, My great-grandfather was said to have returned several times between 1900 and 1920. No reason seems to have survived other than "he went back to see his wife and kids and each time left Poland after making his wife pregnant again!" I suppose since my great grand mother did not want to leave for some reason, maybe her parents or other family commitments. She did finally come to NY with here youngest children in 1920. Jef Barnett Bensalem, PA BANDRYMER (Bandrimer or Bandremer) -Serock, Pultusk, Rozan Poland KRASHA - Serock, Krasnosielc Poland NOWAK (Novak, Nowack) -Serock, Krasnosielc Poland BULMAN- Poland
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Cemetery in Tilsit (Sovetsk), now Russia
#general
Lorraine Fig <lfig@...>
Dear Friends,
Does anyone know if a Jewish cemetery still remains in Tilsit, East Prussia - now Sovetsk, Kaliningrad province, Russia? Thank you for your collective help. Lorraine Fig Shapiro Researching SLADOWSKY, LUDWINOFSKY (Poland, East Prussia), FIG (Lithuania), CHAPMAN (England).
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Re: Vav as F, V and Ph (375 years ago)
#germany
MBernet@...
Someone just sent me a reproduction of the 375-year old "Venice Haggadah."
It is very attractive, with many illustrations, but that's not the point. It has many instructions and explanations in Judaeo-German. What struck me was the use of the Vav (which we'd transliterate as a W today) as transliterations for the Germanic "F" sound, as in F, V or Ph I don't know how common that was at the time. Venice, like much of Northern Italy, was then a largely German-Jewish community. I'm alerting those who are puzzling over 17th century documents (or later) that a Vav may represent the German letters/sounds F, V or Ph. If anyone has additional information on this, please let us know. Happy Purim Michael Bernet, New York MBernet@aol.com
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Re: Immigrants from Poland who returned
#general
Nick <tulse04-news@...>
My greatgrandmother went >from London (not Poland, I know) to New York,
stayed there a year and returned to London to look after her mother, so I believe. Nick Landau London, UK
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Israeli address look-up - WOLF/ZEEVI
#general
Joseph Lonstein
Hi,
Might someone be able to look up for me the address of a cousin living in Israel - Friedrich WOLF and his wife Rosa (nee BRAND)? I believe were still alive about 5 years ago, but am not sure if they are decreased now. If no listing for them, maybe one of their three children have a listing - Franklin ZEEVI, Marion LEADER, or Esther PREISZLER. I don't know where in Israel they lived. Thanks for any help. Joe Lonstein East Lansing, MI
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German SIG #Germany Re: Vav as F, V and Ph (375 years ago)
#germany
MBernet@...
Someone just sent me a reproduction of the 375-year old "Venice Haggadah."
It is very attractive, with many illustrations, but that's not the point. It has many instructions and explanations in Judaeo-German. What struck me was the use of the Vav (which we'd transliterate as a W today) as transliterations for the Germanic "F" sound, as in F, V or Ph I don't know how common that was at the time. Venice, like much of Northern Italy, was then a largely German-Jewish community. I'm alerting those who are puzzling over 17th century documents (or later) that a Vav may represent the German letters/sounds F, V or Ph. If anyone has additional information on this, please let us know. Happy Purim Michael Bernet, New York MBernet@aol.com
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Immigrants from Poland who returned
#general
Nick <tulse04-news@...>
My greatgrandmother went >from London (not Poland, I know) to New York,
stayed there a year and returned to London to look after her mother, so I believe. Nick Landau London, UK
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Israeli address look-up - WOLF/ZEEVI
#general
Joseph Lonstein
Hi,
Might someone be able to look up for me the address of a cousin living in Israel - Friedrich WOLF and his wife Rosa (nee BRAND)? I believe were still alive about 5 years ago, but am not sure if they are decreased now. If no listing for them, maybe one of their three children have a listing - Franklin ZEEVI, Marion LEADER, or Esther PREISZLER. I don't know where in Israel they lived. Thanks for any help. Joe Lonstein East Lansing, MI
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Imigrants Who Returned to Poland
#general
LOUISE HAJDENBERG
Family lore has it that one relative, around 1900, went back to Poland
because America was a "traife" country. I hope I am spelling that correctly. Another relative >from Poland, who hated living on the Lower East Side, around 1900, saved her change, packed her bags and bought a ticket back to Poland. She changed her mind at the last minute. Louise Hajdenberg New York NY BRILLIANT,MAUMERSTEIN/MARMELSTEIN,GOLTZMAN/HOLTZMAN Zaslov Ukraine;FROMAN/FRUMIN Sochowce Ukraine;YOUNG/JUNG/YUNG Zaslov Ukraine, Lyakhovichi ( Lachowitz) Belarus,St. Louis, NewYork; BERLANDShepetovkaUkraine;FRIEDMAN, Rzeszow Poland NOTENBERG/NOTTENBERG/NATHANBERG/NATHAN, TOBIAS Talsi Latvia;RAWITZ, Ropczyce Poland ROSENBLATT,Bila Tserkva,Tetiev Ukraine; Sadagora,Czernowitz Poland FEIGENBAUM, Debica, Ropczyce,Rzeszow, Swoszowa( Svasov) bez.Yaslo, Riglitz,
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Imigrants Who Returned to Poland
#general
LOUISE HAJDENBERG
Family lore has it that one relative, around 1900, went back to Poland
because America was a "traife" country. I hope I am spelling that correctly. Another relative >from Poland, who hated living on the Lower East Side, around 1900, saved her change, packed her bags and bought a ticket back to Poland. She changed her mind at the last minute. Louise Hajdenberg New York NY BRILLIANT,MAUMERSTEIN/MARMELSTEIN,GOLTZMAN/HOLTZMAN Zaslov Ukraine;FROMAN/FRUMIN Sochowce Ukraine;YOUNG/JUNG/YUNG Zaslov Ukraine, Lyakhovichi ( Lachowitz) Belarus,St. Louis, NewYork; BERLANDShepetovkaUkraine;FRIEDMAN, Rzeszow Poland NOTENBERG/NOTTENBERG/NATHANBERG/NATHAN, TOBIAS Talsi Latvia;RAWITZ, Ropczyce Poland ROSENBLATT,Bila Tserkva,Tetiev Ukraine; Sadagora,Czernowitz Poland FEIGENBAUM, Debica, Ropczyce,Rzeszow, Swoszowa( Svasov) bez.Yaslo, Riglitz,
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Seeking misplaced STIEFEL family researcher
#germany
erstiefel@...
While we were vacationing on the sunny island of Maui we received a message
on our laptop, inquiring about a STIEFEL. Unfortunately, in transferring the message to our computer it got lost. I would appreciate it if the person who wrote us us contact us again at erstiefel@msn.com Thank you ! ERNEST R. STIEFEL, Seattle, Washington erstiefel@msn.com
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Immigrants from Poland who returned
#general
Neiel and Joan Baronberg <njbaron@...>
One more reason an immigrant to the U.S. returned to Poland:
Nathan Okon, a landsman of my grandparents, went back to Galicia (then Poland) in the 1930s. He visited his hometown of Suchostaw and his wife's nearby hometown. Happily for us, he filmed his trip, starting with the crossAtlantic voyage and including much footage of the town and people of the two shtetls. He left an incredibly valuable film for all of us. The film was found by a cousin of mine and transferred to VHS and then donated to the Museum in NYC. The original question mentioned a photo taken in 1920. Going back to Poland after WWI, when conditions there were so miserable, raises questions that no one has addressed specifically so far. Joan Baronberg, Denver, CO FRIEDMAN, MESTER, WEISSER Suchostaw, Slobodka bei Strusow, Ukraine
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Going back to the old country
#general
Arthur N. Feinberg <feinber2@...>
Just to weigh in on relatives going back to the old country to get married.
I had one who came to NY around 1868 as a small kid. I could find nothing more on her until I saw her name on JRI Poland, marriages 1887 from Suwalki, where I knew they lived. I assumed that she went back to get herself a husband. However, the right answer came up with better research. Turned out that the person on the JRI Poland database was her first cousin, both of them named after their maternal grandmother. As often happens, both cousins, girls, had the same last name because their mothers married guys >from the same family, not an uncommon occurrence in the days of matchmaking. Arthur N. Feinberg feinber2@ix.netcom.com
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Russian Translation Help needed
#ukraine
Sarah LM Christiansen <SarahLMC@...>
Dear Genners,
I have posted two files on viewmate for help translating >from Russian. The first one has the names of three relatives of my grandmother (I think) >from Kolonie L'vovo in the Ukraine. The second one is a Russian document >from Poland (I will also be posting this message on the Warsaw digest. I would appreciate any help that I can get. Thank you very much. Please reply privately. http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5731 http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5732 Sarah L. M. Christiansen
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