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Re: Directories question #galicia Alexander Sharon #58731 Sylvia Nusinov wrote After reading Pamela's messages re researching the Directories - I checked again for my Grandmother's father's lumber mill. Growing up, I had heard many anecdotes about her visits to the lumber yard. The surnames I checked were AWNER [my Grandmother's maiden surname] and WECHSLER [her Grandfather's surname]. I checked both DM and exact spelling. The documents which I have in my possession list Lemberg/L'vov as my Grandparent's home. The Town listings in the 1891 Galician Business Directory for WECHSLER [Sawmill] are Smorye and Skole. I didn't find a reference to either town in Shtetl Finder - I then GOOGLED and found information on Skole [a district town in L'vov] but not Smorye. Does anyone have a suggestion as to where I go >from here???? Is researching magnate landowners the next step? Sylvia, Before you are moving to the magnates, search for your family origins. Jewish Record Indexing -Poland Project database has added thousands of names which are searchable through JewishGen "All Poland" database. There are listings for Awners (count: 45 in Lwow and Stanislawow provinces) and Wechslers (count: 212 in Lwow and Stanislawow provinces). I have selected Lwow and Stanisalwow since your family records are related to Lwow and Skole was located in Stanislawow. http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Poland/ Skole is listed in ShtetlSeeker, please select Ukraine while searching. "Smorye" should read Smorze. I assume that Phyllis Kramer who has single handed 1891 Galicia Directory, was probably using simultaneously English and Polish keyboards. In Polish keyboard setting letters 'y' and 'z' are reversed when compared to English keyboard setting. Shtetl Smorze was located within Skole district. Wechslers records are listed in Skole (All Poland database for Stanislawow). Best Regards, Alexander Sharon Calgary, Ab
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Re: Accessing the Danzig Commercial Directory #galicia Logan J. Kleinwaks #58732 In response to questions about how to use the search engine for directories at www.kalter.org/search.php, I have added a FAQ, which you can access from the main page or directly >from www.kalter.org/searchfaq.html. You can now also use the wildcard character ? in your searches. For example, searching for "L??b" will match "Leib," "Lieb," "Loeb," etc. Using this, you can circumvent some of the inaccuracies due to the OCR process and find more of your relatives. If you are searching for a long name, you might want to use several ?s. The best placement of ?s would be for characters that are easily mistakeable, such as e, c, and o. Of course, if you use too many ?s, you will receive many undesirable matches. If you have other ideas of how to make this search engine more useful, please tell me. Thanks and best regards, Logan Kleinwaks kleinwaks@... near Washington, D.C.
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Directories question #galicia Alexander Sharon #379083 Sylvia Nusinov wrote After reading Pamela's messages re researching the Directories - I checked again for my Grandmother's father's lumber mill. Growing up, I had heard many anecdotes about her visits to the lumber yard. The surnames I checked were AWNER [my Grandmother's maiden surname] and WECHSLER [her Grandfather's surname]. I checked both DM and exact spelling. The documents which I have in my possession list Lemberg/L'vov as my Grandparent's home. The Town listings in the 1891 Galician Business Directory for WECHSLER [Sawmill] are Smorye and Skole. I didn't find a reference to either town in Shtetl Finder - I then GOOGLED and found information on Skole [a district town in L'vov] but not Smorye. Does anyone have a suggestion as to where I go >from here???? Is researching magnate landowners the next step? Sylvia, Before you are moving to the magnates, search for your family origins. Jewish Record Indexing -Poland Project database has added thousands of names which are searchable through JewishGen "All Poland" database. There are listings for Awners (count: 45 in Lwow and Stanislawow provinces) and Wechslers (count: 212 in Lwow and Stanislawow provinces). I have selected Lwow and Stanisalwow since your family records are related to Lwow and Skole was located in Stanislawow. http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Poland/ Skole is listed in ShtetlSeeker, please select Ukraine while searching. "Smorye" should read Smorze. I assume that Phyllis Kramer who has single handed 1891 Galicia Directory, was probably using simultaneously English and Polish keyboards. In Polish keyboard setting letters 'y' and 'z' are reversed when compared to English keyboard setting. Shtetl Smorze was located within Skole district. Wechslers records are listed in Skole (All Poland database for Stanislawow). Best Regards, Alexander Sharon Calgary, Ab
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia re: Accessing the Danzig Commercial Directory #galicia Logan J. Kleinwaks #379084 In response to questions about how to use the search engine for directories at www.kalter.org/search.php, I have added a FAQ, which you can access from the main page or directly >from www.kalter.org/searchfaq.html. You can now also use the wildcard character ? in your searches. For example, searching for "L??b" will match "Leib," "Lieb," "Loeb," etc. Using this, you can circumvent some of the inaccuracies due to the OCR process and find more of your relatives. If you are searching for a long name, you might want to use several ?s. The best placement of ?s would be for characters that are easily mistakeable, such as e, c, and o. Of course, if you use too many ?s, you will receive many undesirable matches. If you have other ideas of how to make this search engine more useful, please tell me. Thanks and best regards, Logan Kleinwaks kleinwaks@... near Washington, D.C.
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Re: Galician Directories-Another Perspective #galicia Alexander Sharon #58730 Janice Rosen wrote Hi Pamela, Thanks for that in depth research. I don't read Polish or German well enough to figure out some of those things in the directories. Not everything is in English. I did see the Joseph Rosenblatt in the listing for Michalowka but did not realize there were two Roswadows in Galicia. That would be confusing! Joseph Rosenblatt and his wife and children came to the US around 1903 so they would not be listed in the 1929 Galicia Directory. I don't know anything about the other Rosenblatts. It is possible they all also left for America before that 1929 directory was published. In my reading and research on the Rozwadow near Tarnobrzeg I started getting the feeling that I was looking at the wrong town. And maybe so. I'd like to learn more about that "other" Rozwadow and vicinity, though. Is there anything published in English? Plenty Completely translated into English Rozwadow Yzkor Book (excellent translation by Haim Sidor) which btw.lists two ex Rozwadow's Rozenblatt residents in Israel. http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/rozwadow/rozwadow.html#top and one of the best developed Jewishshtetlinks for Rozwadow (Shtetl Leader: Peter A. Dreifuss) within the Kalbuszowa Region Reseach Group (Coordinator: Susana Leistner Bloch http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Kolbuszowa/Rozwadow/Rozwadow.html Best of luck in your search, Alexander Sharon Calgary, Ab
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Galician Directories-Another Perspective #galicia Alexander Sharon #379082 Janice Rosen wrote Hi Pamela, Thanks for that in depth research. I don't read Polish or German well enough to figure out some of those things in the directories. Not everything is in English. I did see the Joseph Rosenblatt in the listing for Michalowka but did not realize there were two Roswadows in Galicia. That would be confusing! Joseph Rosenblatt and his wife and children came to the US around 1903 so they would not be listed in the 1929 Galicia Directory. I don't know anything about the other Rosenblatts. It is possible they all also left for America before that 1929 directory was published. In my reading and research on the Rozwadow near Tarnobrzeg I started getting the feeling that I was looking at the wrong town. And maybe so. I'd like to learn more about that "other" Rozwadow and vicinity, though. Is there anything published in English? Plenty Completely translated into English Rozwadow Yzkor Book (excellent translation by Haim Sidor) which btw.lists two ex Rozwadow's Rozenblatt residents in Israel. http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/rozwadow/rozwadow.html#top and one of the best developed Jewishshtetlinks for Rozwadow (Shtetl Leader: Peter A. Dreifuss) within the Kalbuszowa Region Reseach Group (Coordinator: Susana Leistner Bloch http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Kolbuszowa/Rozwadow/Rozwadow.html Best of luck in your search, Alexander Sharon Calgary, Ab
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Kahn / Cahn in Offenbach am Main #general Hanna Goldmann #169837 To whom it concerns Akiva KAHN b: 1768, d: 1859 in Offenbach am Main after 18th February, 1816 II m: to Hannah (Hannche) Berge b: 1781, d: 1829 Children: Daughter Ranche b: 4th March, 1807 Daughter Edel b: 26th May, 1808 Daughter Hanche b: 24th October, 1809 Son Koppel b: 22nd March, 1811 Son Ruben b: 3rd October, 1812 Daughter Carolina b: 22nd May, 1814 Daughter Fany b: 9th July, 1817 Son Abraham, called Adolph b: 9th September, 1819, m: to Bertha Hanau on the 21st December, 1845, parents of Ottilie Cahn Son Moses b: 22nd January, 1822 Son Nathan b: 1st August, 1823, all in Offenbach am Main. Hanna MODERATOR NOTE: If these names are of interest to you, please contact Hanna privately.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Kahn / Cahn in Offenbach am Main #general Hanna Goldmann #490150 To whom it concerns Akiva KAHN b: 1768, d: 1859 in Offenbach am Main after 18th February, 1816 II m: to Hannah (Hannche) Berge b: 1781, d: 1829 Children: Daughter Ranche b: 4th March, 1807 Daughter Edel b: 26th May, 1808 Daughter Hanche b: 24th October, 1809 Son Koppel b: 22nd March, 1811 Son Ruben b: 3rd October, 1812 Daughter Carolina b: 22nd May, 1814 Daughter Fany b: 9th July, 1817 Son Abraham, called Adolph b: 9th September, 1819, m: to Bertha Hanau on the 21st December, 1845, parents of Ottilie Cahn Son Moses b: 22nd January, 1822 Son Nathan b: 1st August, 1823, all in Offenbach am Main. Hanna MODERATOR NOTE: If these names are of interest to you, please contact Hanna privately.
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Looking for Harris BLANK or Isaac ROSENSWEIG? #general Rachel Unkefer <runkefer@...> #169836 For no good reason other than websurfing in order to procrastinate, I found myself at this page: http://users.bestweb.net/~rg/execution/PENNSYLVANIA.htm It is a listing of executions in the state of Pennsylvania >from the 1600s to 1962. I ran across these two names together and figured that somebody somewhere might be looking for these two guys. They were purported to be >from Wyoming. You never know where someone might turn up! If you lose track of somebody, consider the possilbility they ran afoul of the law somewhere else. BLANK, Harris/28/White/Male/Peddler/Murder-Robbery/Hanging/May 18,1893/Wyoming ROSENWEIG, Isaac/27/White/Male/Peddler/Murder-Robbey/Hanging/May 18,1893/Wyoming
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for Harris BLANK or Isaac ROSENSWEIG? #general Rachel Unkefer <runkefer@...> #490149 For no good reason other than websurfing in order to procrastinate, I found myself at this page: http://users.bestweb.net/~rg/execution/PENNSYLVANIA.htm It is a listing of executions in the state of Pennsylvania >from the 1600s to 1962. I ran across these two names together and figured that somebody somewhere might be looking for these two guys. They were purported to be >from Wyoming. You never know where someone might turn up! If you lose track of somebody, consider the possilbility they ran afoul of the law somewhere else. BLANK, Harris/28/White/Male/Peddler/Murder-Robbery/Hanging/May 18,1893/Wyoming ROSENWEIG, Isaac/27/White/Male/Peddler/Murder-Robbey/Hanging/May 18,1893/Wyoming
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KROTOSZYNSKI [Kohenim] COHN, COWAN AND COWEN --Western Poland #general Jim Bennett <bennett@...> #169835 In the early 1700's a family of Kohenim >from Krotoszyn [Krotoschin] migrated northward to the region of Kowal, Lubraniec, Izbica, Plock, and later to Wloclawek. They bore no permanent family name except the HaKohen title after their personal and father's names. In about 1800, when it became compulsory, this family, or perhaps several families, adopted the name KROTOSZYNSKI. A search in JRI-Poland brings up KROTOSZYNSKI families--in the early and middle 19th century-- in Gabin, Izbica, Kleczew, Kolo, Konin, Lubraniec, and Warta. Very large families were in Izbica and Kleczew. Towards the end of the century we find some in Lodz and Zdunska Wola. All these locations are in western Poland. There are no Krotoszynski families in JRI in the south, central or eastern regions of Poland. So we are dealing with a rather concentrated geographical region. Upon immigrating, most Krotoszynski's changed their names, some to COWEN in the U.S., and to COWAN in Britain. When pronounced both names sound like--COHEN !! --which makes perfect sense. I am searching for all KROTOSZYNSKI descendants whose males are Kohenim So far I have succeeded in linking the COWEN'S of America to the COWAN'S of Britain. If a Krotoszynski male descendant doesn't know whether or not he is a Kohen, he could easily have his DNA tested to find out. Jim Bennett Haifa
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen KROTOSZYNSKI [Kohenim] COHN, COWAN AND COWEN --Western Poland #general Jim Bennett <bennett@...> #490148 In the early 1700's a family of Kohenim >from Krotoszyn [Krotoschin] migrated northward to the region of Kowal, Lubraniec, Izbica, Plock, and later to Wloclawek. They bore no permanent family name except the HaKohen title after their personal and father's names. In about 1800, when it became compulsory, this family, or perhaps several families, adopted the name KROTOSZYNSKI. A search in JRI-Poland brings up KROTOSZYNSKI families--in the early and middle 19th century-- in Gabin, Izbica, Kleczew, Kolo, Konin, Lubraniec, and Warta. Very large families were in Izbica and Kleczew. Towards the end of the century we find some in Lodz and Zdunska Wola. All these locations are in western Poland. There are no Krotoszynski families in JRI in the south, central or eastern regions of Poland. So we are dealing with a rather concentrated geographical region. Upon immigrating, most Krotoszynski's changed their names, some to COWEN in the U.S., and to COWAN in Britain. When pronounced both names sound like--COHEN !! --which makes perfect sense. I am searching for all KROTOSZYNSKI descendants whose males are Kohenim So far I have succeeded in linking the COWEN'S of America to the COWAN'S of Britain. If a Krotoszynski male descendant doesn't know whether or not he is a Kohen, he could easily have his DNA tested to find out. Jim Bennett Haifa
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Re: Cyrillic conversion to English #general Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...> #169834 On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 05:04:11 UTC, terrib@... (Terri) opined: Does anyone know if Steve Morse, or someone else has created a tool, that allows us to input a Cyrillic surname or another Cyrillic word to get the English translation, similar to the Israeli phone directory where we type the English and it gets converted to Hebrew. Tom Erribe CA This would be as difficult to do as changing apples into oranges. "English" is a language, while "Cyrillic" is an alphabet used for writing several languages, among them Russian, Ukrainian, Macdonian, and Bulgarian. You need to say if you are seeking a tool for transliterating Cyrillic to Latin alphabet, or translating some specific language to English. As it stands, the question is ambiguous. -- Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel Searching: NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is: http://www.hashkedim.com For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form there.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Cyrillic conversion to English #general Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...> #490147 On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 05:04:11 UTC, terrib@... (Terri) opined: Does anyone know if Steve Morse, or someone else has created a tool, that allows us to input a Cyrillic surname or another Cyrillic word to get the English translation, similar to the Israeli phone directory where we type the English and it gets converted to Hebrew. Tom Erribe CA This would be as difficult to do as changing apples into oranges. "English" is a language, while "Cyrillic" is an alphabet used for writing several languages, among them Russian, Ukrainian, Macdonian, and Bulgarian. You need to say if you are seeking a tool for transliterating Cyrillic to Latin alphabet, or translating some specific language to English. As it stands, the question is ambiguous. -- Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel Searching: NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is: http://www.hashkedim.com For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form there.
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Re: current research in archives in Belarus #belarus David M. Fox <davefox73@...> #18041 To Marcia and others, The situation is too delicate to publicly discuss the situation. Any public discussion could further comprise the ability of the SIG to secure records in the future. David Fox Arnold, MD, USA davefox73@... Researching: TSIVIN (TZVION, SIVIN, etc), RABINOWITZ, GUREVICH >from Minsk FEITELSON, SENDEROV (SHENDEROV), SHER, KAGAN >from Mogilev Marcia Arem wrote: toggle quoted messageShow quoted text Recently there have been several references to a change in the archives. For those of us who are not aware of recent events could someone please let us know what the current situation is?
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Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: current research in archives in Belarus #belarus David M. Fox <davefox73@...> #338481 To Marcia and others, The situation is too delicate to publicly discuss the situation. Any public discussion could further comprise the ability of the SIG to secure records in the future. David Fox Arnold, MD, USA davefox73@... Researching: TSIVIN (TZVION, SIVIN, etc), RABINOWITZ, GUREVICH >from Minsk FEITELSON, SENDEROV (SHENDEROV), SHER, KAGAN >from Mogilev Marcia Arem wrote: toggle quoted messageShow quoted text Recently there have been several references to a change in the archives. For those of us who are not aware of recent events could someone please let us know what the current situation is?
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KROTOSZYNSKI [Kohenim] COHN, COWAN AND COWEN --Western Poland #poland Jim Bennett <bennett@...> #241455 In the early 1700's a family of Kohenim >from Krotoszyn [Krotoschin] migrated northward to the region of Kowal, Lubraniec, Izbica, Plock, and later to Wloclawek. They bore no permanent family name except the HaKohen title after their personal and father's names. In about 1800, when it became compulsory, this family, or perhaps several families, adopted the name KROTOSZYNSKI. A search in JRI-Poland brings up KROTOSZYNSKI families--in the early and middle 19th century-- in Gabin, Izbica, Kleczew, Kolo, Konin, Lubraniec, and Warta. Very large families were in Izbica and Kleczew. Towards the end of the century we find some in Lodz and Zdunska Wola. All these locations are in western Poland. There are no Krotoszynski families in JRI in the south, central or eastern regions of Poland. So we are dealing with a rather concentrated geographical region. Upon immigrating, most Krotoszynski's changed their names, some to COWEN in the U.S., and to COWAN in Britain. When pronounced both names sound like--COHEN !! --which makes perfect sense. I am searching for all KROTOSZYNSKI DESCENDANTS WHOSE MALES ARE KOHENIM So far I have succeeded in linking the COWEN'S of America to the COWAN'S of Britain. If a Krotoszynski male descendant doesn't know whether or not he is a Kohen, he could easily have his DNA tested to find out. Jim Bennett Haifa
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JRI Poland #Poland KROTOSZYNSKI [Kohenim] COHN, COWAN AND COWEN --Western Poland #poland Jim Bennett <bennett@...> #561774 In the early 1700's a family of Kohenim >from Krotoszyn [Krotoschin] migrated northward to the region of Kowal, Lubraniec, Izbica, Plock, and later to Wloclawek. They bore no permanent family name except the HaKohen title after their personal and father's names. In about 1800, when it became compulsory, this family, or perhaps several families, adopted the name KROTOSZYNSKI. A search in JRI-Poland brings up KROTOSZYNSKI families--in the early and middle 19th century-- in Gabin, Izbica, Kleczew, Kolo, Konin, Lubraniec, and Warta. Very large families were in Izbica and Kleczew. Towards the end of the century we find some in Lodz and Zdunska Wola. All these locations are in western Poland. There are no Krotoszynski families in JRI in the south, central or eastern regions of Poland. So we are dealing with a rather concentrated geographical region. Upon immigrating, most Krotoszynski's changed their names, some to COWEN in the U.S., and to COWAN in Britain. When pronounced both names sound like--COHEN !! --which makes perfect sense. I am searching for all KROTOSZYNSKI DESCENDANTS WHOSE MALES ARE KOHENIM So far I have succeeded in linking the COWEN'S of America to the COWAN'S of Britain. If a Krotoszynski male descendant doesn't know whether or not he is a Kohen, he could easily have his DNA tested to find out. Jim Bennett Haifa
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Mordche der Tzaddik, Bialystok and Max Weber, Artist #poland Solna K. (Kandi) Wasser <skwasser@...> #241454 Hello, I have a paragraph >from a 1960, quarterly journal that has just come to light, about my second cousin once removed who is Max Weber, the Artist. We have found the family name changed upon entry to the US to Weber =Weaver...tailor?.... but the name was Kriviatizski in Bialystok. His mother's family and mine was Getz or Gec. It states that, " he was impressed by stories about his granduncle, Mordche der Tzaddik. " It goes on to say, " this great cabalist, a bachelor, left town to dwell in the forest and delve into forbidden mysteries. Whenever he came to the synagogue on the Sabbath eve, a reverent hush would fall on the gathered congregation and the awe-struck people would move aside to let him pass." Has anyone ever heard of this cabalist? Is there somewhere that I could begin to look other than the jri-poland index ? Many thanks in advance, Kandi Wasser Please email me directly at skwasser@...
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JRI Poland #Poland Mordche der Tzaddik, Bialystok and Max Weber, Artist #poland Solna K. (Kandi) Wasser <skwasser@...> #561773 Hello, I have a paragraph >from a 1960, quarterly journal that has just come to light, about my second cousin once removed who is Max Weber, the Artist. We have found the family name changed upon entry to the US to Weber =Weaver...tailor?.... but the name was Kriviatizski in Bialystok. His mother's family and mine was Getz or Gec. It states that, " he was impressed by stories about his granduncle, Mordche der Tzaddik. " It goes on to say, " this great cabalist, a bachelor, left town to dwell in the forest and delve into forbidden mysteries. Whenever he came to the synagogue on the Sabbath eve, a reverent hush would fall on the gathered congregation and the awe-struck people would move aside to let him pass." Has anyone ever heard of this cabalist? Is there somewhere that I could begin to look other than the jri-poland index ? Many thanks in advance, Kandi Wasser Please email me directly at skwasser@...
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