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Re: Search Engine for finding people in the USA #general

Ruth <drwho70@...>
 

I wouldn't give this site too much credence. I found numerous mistakes
just checking out my brother & his family. They have the DOB for one nephew
listed as the same DOB as his father. There are also numerous old addresses
listed for each member of the family.

The beta version of this will end on 3/31/05 and whether it will remain a
free database in the future is questionable.

Ruth Grant
B'RAM/BARAM/BAR AM>> Labun, Ukraine> Haifa
FEIGENBLAT/FAJGENBLAT (any spelling), LERNER, VINESHTAYN (any spelling
variation)>> Labun and/or Starokonstantinov, Ukraine, possibly Poland
SMULOWITZ/SHMULOVICH>> NovoAlekandrovsk, Lithuania
MINSTER/MINSTERIS>>Plunge, Lithuania > Canada & USA

Subject: Re: Search Engine for finding people in the USA
X-Message-Number: 44 3/23/05

I have just found the following search site.

http://www.zabasearch.com/
In my opinion it gives to much information that should not be on line, but
it may assist some in trying to find family in the USA.
far more convenient than any of the online telephone
>directories. It's a great addition to the available resources; thanks for
>pointing it out.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Search Engine for finding people in the USA #general

Ruth <drwho70@...>
 

I wouldn't give this site too much credence. I found numerous mistakes
just checking out my brother & his family. They have the DOB for one nephew
listed as the same DOB as his father. There are also numerous old addresses
listed for each member of the family.

The beta version of this will end on 3/31/05 and whether it will remain a
free database in the future is questionable.

Ruth Grant
B'RAM/BARAM/BAR AM>> Labun, Ukraine> Haifa
FEIGENBLAT/FAJGENBLAT (any spelling), LERNER, VINESHTAYN (any spelling
variation)>> Labun and/or Starokonstantinov, Ukraine, possibly Poland
SMULOWITZ/SHMULOVICH>> NovoAlekandrovsk, Lithuania
MINSTER/MINSTERIS>>Plunge, Lithuania > Canada & USA

Subject: Re: Search Engine for finding people in the USA
X-Message-Number: 44 3/23/05

I have just found the following search site.

http://www.zabasearch.com/
In my opinion it gives to much information that should not be on line, but
it may assist some in trying to find family in the USA.
far more convenient than any of the online telephone
>directories. It's a great addition to the available resources; thanks for
>pointing it out.


Re: Search Engine for finding people in the USA #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 04:22:39 UTC, elisejg@... (Elise Friedman)
opined:

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:15:17 UTC, birdpop@... (Richard) opined:
I have just found the following search site.
http://www.zabasearch.com/
In my opinion it gives to much information that should not be on line
And then Stan Goodman responded:
Actually, the only thing it seems to give that one cannot find in any number
of online telephone directories is the time at which the given person was at
the address shown.
Those dates are actually dates of birth. Also, some former addresses are
often listed for each individual -- you won't get this >from a standard phone
directory.
I see now that they are dates of birth. The reason I had jumped to the
conclusion that they were dates of presence of the person at that address is
that the surname I entered as an experiment showed people I know very well,
with multiple listings, each one with a different (birth)date. I know for a
fact that these people were born only once. My conclusion is that the
birthdates listed are not reliable. Date of birth, in any case, is not a
secret; one fills it out on forms without thinking about it, even in
situations without any pretense of security.

Identity theft is indeed a problem; everyone knows that. But this kind of
thing is not the tool for the theft.

A similar online database is available through a popular commercial
genealogy company. It has an added feature -- it often shows the names and
ages of others who live at the same address. It's a separate and not
inexpensive subscription, but I choose to subscribe because I have found
this type of database to be highly effective for locating and contacting
living distant cousins who I've been unable to locate by any other means.
Well, there you are. This site is not the only one; the fact that there is
such a site, and certainly the fact that there are many, with access either
cheap or altogether free, shows that these details are easy to come by --
the builders of the sites did it, anyone else can too.


Elise Friedman
Baltimore, Maryland
--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.


Re: Search Engine for finding people in the USA #general

Hilary Henkin <hilary@...>
 

This site provides only the common info - partial birthday and multiple
addresses. To learn more, you're sent to another commercial website which
offers paid searches. When I tested with a specific given name and
surname, and clicked on the "google search" option, it gave me over 16
million results containing either the given name or the surname, failing to
search for the full name only.

There are other sites which give far more infomation, without even spending
a dime --.

Also, the "background check" and "google this name" options were
non-functional when I used the Firefox browser - they worked only in
Internet Explorer.

Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, GA

At 06:18 PM 3/22/05, Richard wrote:

I have just found the following search site.

http://www.zabasearch.com/
In my opinion it gives to much information that should not be on line, but
it may assist some in trying to find family in the USA.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Search Engine for finding people in the USA #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 04:22:39 UTC, elisejg@... (Elise Friedman)
opined:

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:15:17 UTC, birdpop@... (Richard) opined:
I have just found the following search site.
http://www.zabasearch.com/
In my opinion it gives to much information that should not be on line
And then Stan Goodman responded:
Actually, the only thing it seems to give that one cannot find in any number
of online telephone directories is the time at which the given person was at
the address shown.
Those dates are actually dates of birth. Also, some former addresses are
often listed for each individual -- you won't get this >from a standard phone
directory.
I see now that they are dates of birth. The reason I had jumped to the
conclusion that they were dates of presence of the person at that address is
that the surname I entered as an experiment showed people I know very well,
with multiple listings, each one with a different (birth)date. I know for a
fact that these people were born only once. My conclusion is that the
birthdates listed are not reliable. Date of birth, in any case, is not a
secret; one fills it out on forms without thinking about it, even in
situations without any pretense of security.

Identity theft is indeed a problem; everyone knows that. But this kind of
thing is not the tool for the theft.

A similar online database is available through a popular commercial
genealogy company. It has an added feature -- it often shows the names and
ages of others who live at the same address. It's a separate and not
inexpensive subscription, but I choose to subscribe because I have found
this type of database to be highly effective for locating and contacting
living distant cousins who I've been unable to locate by any other means.
Well, there you are. This site is not the only one; the fact that there is
such a site, and certainly the fact that there are many, with access either
cheap or altogether free, shows that these details are easy to come by --
the builders of the sites did it, anyone else can too.


Elise Friedman
Baltimore, Maryland
--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Search Engine for finding people in the USA #general

Hilary Henkin <hilary@...>
 

This site provides only the common info - partial birthday and multiple
addresses. To learn more, you're sent to another commercial website which
offers paid searches. When I tested with a specific given name and
surname, and clicked on the "google search" option, it gave me over 16
million results containing either the given name or the surname, failing to
search for the full name only.

There are other sites which give far more infomation, without even spending
a dime --.

Also, the "background check" and "google this name" options were
non-functional when I used the Firefox browser - they worked only in
Internet Explorer.

Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, GA

At 06:18 PM 3/22/05, Richard wrote:

I have just found the following search site.

http://www.zabasearch.com/
In my opinion it gives to much information that should not be on line, but
it may assist some in trying to find family in the USA.


soundex searching of online directories #galicia

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

Because of several requests, I have added the capability to perform
Daitch-Mokotoff Soundex searches to the search engine for online historical
directories at www.kalter.org/search.php. This feature is more
computationally intensive, so please do not use it excessively, or else the
site will slow down considerably and I will have to remove it. If you have
any successes using this feature, or if you have other ideas of how to
improve on the search engine, please let me know.

Thanks and best regards,

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@...
near Washington, D.C.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia soundex searching of online directories #galicia

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

Because of several requests, I have added the capability to perform
Daitch-Mokotoff Soundex searches to the search engine for online historical
directories at www.kalter.org/search.php. This feature is more
computationally intensive, so please do not use it excessively, or else the
site will slow down considerably and I will have to remove it. If you have
any successes using this feature, or if you have other ideas of how to
improve on the search engine, please let me know.

Thanks and best regards,

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@...
near Washington, D.C.


Re: Lodz/Radom/Opoczno/Tomaszow Maz. connection to Lyon #france

georges <georges.graner@...>
 

At 08:53 16/03/2005, Terri wrote:


Hello,
I'm told that I had relatives >from Lodz/Radom/Opoczno/Tomaszow Maz. who went
to Lyon.

I have 2 questions:
1. Can anyone direct me to some material written by French Jews elaborating
on their migration?

2. Where do I go to begin researching Lyon? I've been to the Yad Vashem
site, and found some French relatives, but I don't know how to obtain vital
records, view census records, etc..

Thanks,
Tom Erribe
CA
Dear Tom
May I suggest that you ask a precise question on the Website
www.genealoj.org . Go to the English Version, then to the Questions-Answers
section. Be more specific, what kind of documents you need, recent or
old, etc...


Georges GRANER (Paris, France)
georges.graner@...
Webmaster of Cercle de Généalogie Juive www.genealoj.org


French SIG #France Re: Lodz/Radom/Opoczno/Tomaszow Maz. connection to Lyon #france

georges <georges.graner@...>
 

At 08:53 16/03/2005, Terri wrote:


Hello,
I'm told that I had relatives >from Lodz/Radom/Opoczno/Tomaszow Maz. who went
to Lyon.

I have 2 questions:
1. Can anyone direct me to some material written by French Jews elaborating
on their migration?

2. Where do I go to begin researching Lyon? I've been to the Yad Vashem
site, and found some French relatives, but I don't know how to obtain vital
records, view census records, etc..

Thanks,
Tom Erribe
CA
Dear Tom
May I suggest that you ask a precise question on the Website
www.genealoj.org . Go to the English Version, then to the Questions-Answers
section. Be more specific, what kind of documents you need, recent or
old, etc...


Georges GRANER (Paris, France)
georges.graner@...
Webmaster of Cercle de Généalogie Juive www.genealoj.org


WEISINGER, Minnie-Brooklyn, N.Y.-1943 #general

Martin Kulick <mirelee@...>
 

I am looking for anyone that might know of my relative, Minnie Weisinger,
XXX Stone Avenue, Brooklyn, N.Y. in the year 1943.
Barbara Kulick
Carmel, N.Y.
mirelee@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen WEISINGER, Minnie-Brooklyn, N.Y.-1943 #general

Martin Kulick <mirelee@...>
 

I am looking for anyone that might know of my relative, Minnie Weisinger,
XXX Stone Avenue, Brooklyn, N.Y. in the year 1943.
Barbara Kulick
Carmel, N.Y.
mirelee@...


Re: Akkerman #ukraine

Doug Cohen
 

Akkerman is now known as Bilhorod-Dnistrovskyy, Ukr. According to Where
Once We Walked, it had a prewar Jewish pop. of 4239, and is 42 km SW of
Odessa, at 46o12'/30o21'.

Doug Cohen
Lexington, MA
DMC@...

From: "Leah Levitt" <lelevitt@...>

Do you have any information on Akkerman. My paternal grandmother is
from this town or city. I think it is not far >from Oddessa. The family
name was:

MILLMAN or MILMAN
SEIGELMAN
LEVITT

Thank you for your assistance.

Leah


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: RE:Akkerman #ukraine

Doug Cohen
 

Akkerman is now known as Bilhorod-Dnistrovskyy, Ukr. According to Where
Once We Walked, it had a prewar Jewish pop. of 4239, and is 42 km SW of
Odessa, at 46o12'/30o21'.

Doug Cohen
Lexington, MA
DMC@...

From: "Leah Levitt" <lelevitt@...>

Do you have any information on Akkerman. My paternal grandmother is
from this town or city. I think it is not far >from Oddessa. The family
name was:

MILLMAN or MILMAN
SEIGELMAN
LEVITT

Thank you for your assistance.

Leah


BRILL and SCHACHTER, Falticeni > Chicago, IL #romania

Rebecca Fenning <macguffin317@...>
 

Hi all,

I am currently researching my uncle’s BRILL and SCHACHTER lines >from in or
near FALTICENI.

Samuel BRILL was born ca 1857-67 in or near Falticeni to Morris BRILL.
Around 1883, he married Mollie SCHACHTER, daughter of Israel, born ca
1868-1870, also in or near Falticeni.

They had 9 children, the oldest 3 born in Romania, and the others born in
Chicago, Illinois:

Aaron, b. ca 1888, d. 1926, Chicago
Matilda, b. ca 1888-1890, m. Morris GROUPE
Etta, b. ca 1891, m. Robert ROSENTHAL, d. 1954, Chicago
Max, b. ca 1896, d. 1941, Chicago; 1st asst. chief deputy bailiff of the
Municipal court of Chicago
Dorothy, b. 1899, m. George WEINER
Celia, b. 1902, m. Albert HORWITCH, d. 1980s, Phoenix, Arizona
Edith, b. 1904, m. Barry BLUM
Edward, b. 1905, d. 1978, Phoenix, Arizona
Sol, b. 1915

Samuel and his family immigrated to Chicago, Illinois in about 1895, where
he later founded the first kosher restaurant in the city and was a founding
member of the First Romanian Congregation (according to his obituary). Sam
died in 1932 in Chicago and Mollie died in 1938.

A brother or other relative of Samuel’s, a Leo (or Chaim) BRILL, born 1874
in Romania, immigrated to the US in 1900.

Mollie’s brother Abraham SCHACHTER, born 1881 in Romania, immigrated to the
us in 1907, and died in Los Angeles in 1951.

Thank you,

Rebecca Fenning
Allston, Mass.

MODERATOR NOTE: Be sure to search the JewishGen Family Finder and to add your own
names and towns. It's at www.jewishgen.org/jgff. You will often find many others who
are searching the same names/towns.


Romania SIG #Romania BRILL and SCHACHTER, Falticeni > Chicago, IL #romania

Rebecca Fenning <macguffin317@...>
 

Hi all,

I am currently researching my uncle’s BRILL and SCHACHTER lines >from in or
near FALTICENI.

Samuel BRILL was born ca 1857-67 in or near Falticeni to Morris BRILL.
Around 1883, he married Mollie SCHACHTER, daughter of Israel, born ca
1868-1870, also in or near Falticeni.

They had 9 children, the oldest 3 born in Romania, and the others born in
Chicago, Illinois:

Aaron, b. ca 1888, d. 1926, Chicago
Matilda, b. ca 1888-1890, m. Morris GROUPE
Etta, b. ca 1891, m. Robert ROSENTHAL, d. 1954, Chicago
Max, b. ca 1896, d. 1941, Chicago; 1st asst. chief deputy bailiff of the
Municipal court of Chicago
Dorothy, b. 1899, m. George WEINER
Celia, b. 1902, m. Albert HORWITCH, d. 1980s, Phoenix, Arizona
Edith, b. 1904, m. Barry BLUM
Edward, b. 1905, d. 1978, Phoenix, Arizona
Sol, b. 1915

Samuel and his family immigrated to Chicago, Illinois in about 1895, where
he later founded the first kosher restaurant in the city and was a founding
member of the First Romanian Congregation (according to his obituary). Sam
died in 1932 in Chicago and Mollie died in 1938.

A brother or other relative of Samuel’s, a Leo (or Chaim) BRILL, born 1874
in Romania, immigrated to the US in 1900.

Mollie’s brother Abraham SCHACHTER, born 1881 in Romania, immigrated to the
us in 1907, and died in Los Angeles in 1951.

Thank you,

Rebecca Fenning
Allston, Mass.

MODERATOR NOTE: Be sure to search the JewishGen Family Finder and to add your own
names and towns. It's at www.jewishgen.org/jgff. You will often find many others who
are searching the same names/towns.


Documents on Viewmate, translations requested #belarus

Dave Lewak <dlewak@...>
 

Hi,
I posted four pages of a letter on ViewMate

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html

ids VM5735-VM5738.

The letter was in a collection of my grandparents papers,
my grandparents were Herschel and Sima LEWAK, from
Drohiczyn in Belarus. It is written in Hebrew script, and
is either in Hebrew or Yiddish.

If someone could tell me who wrote the letter, to whom
it was addressed, and what it is about I'd appreciate it.

Also, I have about 100 pages of letters and other documents
written in Hebrew or Yiddish and Russian, I'd like to get
full translations for them all. What's the best way (and most
cost-effective) to translate them?

Thanks -- Dave Lewak
Berkeley, CA, USA

Researching: LEWAK, GOLDBERG, KIR, DEVINSKY (Drohiczyn);
FLAKSMAN (Pinsk); LIEBERMAN, FINKELSTEIN (Balbieriskis, Lithuania);
WINZELBERG, WERTHEIMER, GROSS, STEINBERG (Czchow, Poland);
MISHURIS, FLICKSTEIN, POLISSER, TOBERMAN (Balta, Ukraine).


Belarus SIG #Belarus Documents on Viewmate, translations requested #belarus

Dave Lewak <dlewak@...>
 

Hi,
I posted four pages of a letter on ViewMate

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html

ids VM5735-VM5738.

The letter was in a collection of my grandparents papers,
my grandparents were Herschel and Sima LEWAK, from
Drohiczyn in Belarus. It is written in Hebrew script, and
is either in Hebrew or Yiddish.

If someone could tell me who wrote the letter, to whom
it was addressed, and what it is about I'd appreciate it.

Also, I have about 100 pages of letters and other documents
written in Hebrew or Yiddish and Russian, I'd like to get
full translations for them all. What's the best way (and most
cost-effective) to translate them?

Thanks -- Dave Lewak
Berkeley, CA, USA

Researching: LEWAK, GOLDBERG, KIR, DEVINSKY (Drohiczyn);
FLAKSMAN (Pinsk); LIEBERMAN, FINKELSTEIN (Balbieriskis, Lithuania);
WINZELBERG, WERTHEIMER, GROSS, STEINBERG (Czchow, Poland);
MISHURIS, FLICKSTEIN, POLISSER, TOBERMAN (Balta, Ukraine).


Mitchell Horwich to discuss "Meeting the People on the Tree" April 5, 2005 Meeting of JGS of Greater Miami, Inc. #general

Barbara Musikar
 

Mitchell Horwich, a local lawyer and genealogist, will discuss "Meeting the
People on the Tree" at the April 3, 2005 meeting of the Jewish Genealogy
Society of Greater Miami, Inc. Mr. Horwich will talk about his experiences
over the past thirty years in locating and meeting family members
world-wide.

The meeting will begin at 10:00 AM sharp at the Jewish Federation Building
located at 4200 Biscayne Blvd in Miami. For further information, please
contact the society at bar945@... or 305-868-9226.

Barbara Musikar
President and VP Programming
JGS of Greater Miami, Inc.
bar945@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Mitchell Horwich to discuss "Meeting the People on the Tree" April 5, 2005 Meeting of JGS of Greater Miami, Inc. #general

Barbara Musikar
 

Mitchell Horwich, a local lawyer and genealogist, will discuss "Meeting the
People on the Tree" at the April 3, 2005 meeting of the Jewish Genealogy
Society of Greater Miami, Inc. Mr. Horwich will talk about his experiences
over the past thirty years in locating and meeting family members
world-wide.

The meeting will begin at 10:00 AM sharp at the Jewish Federation Building
located at 4200 Biscayne Blvd in Miami. For further information, please
contact the society at bar945@... or 305-868-9226.

Barbara Musikar
President and VP Programming
JGS of Greater Miami, Inc.
bar945@...